And so hookers in Nevada could get tax exemptions.
A final effort by Senate Republicans to halt cuts to pensions of military retirees failed late Tuesday, after Democrats blocked an amendment to the controversial budget bill.
The two-year budget agreement, which cleared a key test vote earlier in the day, was expected to get a final vote no later than Wednesday.
Ahead of the final vote, Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., tried unsuccessfully to use a parliamentary tactic to force a vote on the amendment, which he wrote to undo the cuts for military retirees.
A provision in the already House-passed bill would cut retirement benefits for military retirees by $6 billion over 10 years.
Sessions wanted to instead eliminate an estimated $4.2 billion in annual spending by reining in an IRS credit that illegal immigrants have claimed.
He and fellow senators argued the bill unfairly sticks veterans and other military retirees with the cost of new spending.
“It’s not correct, and it should not happen,” Sessions said on the floor.
“By blocking my amendment, they voted to cut pensions for wounded warriors,” he said afterwards. “Senators in this chamber have many valid ideas for replacing these pension cuts, including my proposal to close the tax welfare loophole for illegal filers, and all deserved a fair and open hearing. But they were denied.”
Sessions’ office claimed the vote Tuesday to block the amendment was a vote to “cut military pensions instead of cutting welfare for illegal immigrants.”
Disabled vets are not spared either.
There is, however, money enough to study duck penises, provide “lifestyle lessons” for Senate staffers and more:
•$10 million for National Guard advertising tie-ins with the “Soldier of Steel” movie, despite budget cuts reducing the Guard’s strength by 8,000 soldiers.
•$7 billion for the Pentagon to destroy vehicles and other military equipment used in wars in the Middle East rather than sell or ship the items home.
•$17.5 million for special tax exemptions for Nevada brothels, including tax deductions for groceries, wages for prostitutes, rent and utilities.
•Nearly $1 million since 2010 for the National Endowment of Humanities “Popular Romance Project,” which studies romance novels, films, comics and Internet fan fiction.
•$630,000 spent by the State Department to buy followers on its Facebook and Twitter accounts.
•$325,525 for a National Institutes of Health study that found wives would be happier if they could calm down faster during arguments with their husbands.
•$150,000 to support the Puppets Take Long Island festival in Sag Harbor.
The cuts would save $6 billion over ten years. Unauthorized illegal aliens receive $4 billion in tax credits every year.
Senate Republicans tried to block the bill, but democrats stood with the illegals over the veterans.
Member of Congress and civilians employed by the government are not affected.
Congress is cutting the pensions of those who served our country so that illegal aliens would not have to do with a little less. The world is going to hell.
I think this is absolutely outrageous. What do you think?
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
You are usurping a preconceived idea that the other “499 thousand Engineers” are NOT questioning the report. Using deductive reasoning without the facts will lead you to an erroneous assumption as you have just presented.
The numbers are growing as more and more evidence is surfacing.
Here’s a good video from the growing number of architectural experts who are adding their names to the petition.
And I quote, “High rise buildings simply do not collapse because of fire….”
Watch the video…you will (or should) learn something.
You’ve got to be joking right? It matters completely because none of the 911 commissioners were experts in architecture, demolitions, nor did any have any investigative skills. Some of them were bankers, corporate managers, and so forth. How could they conduct an investigation without the necessary training? We might as well assign the Manson family to investigate any or all murders. That’s my point.
Once again you’ve demonstrated your lack of logical reasoning and research. Here again is a video that is NOT based on either political parties:
I await your response to the attached video. I’d also like a response of the short video proving tower 7 came down by demolition charges.
Joe
Joe
of course they question< because they are ignorant and want to learn<
those have never been so close to a massive collapse like it and sure they want to lear by asking question
what else can they do, and how can they deny what is being said, if they don't know,
of course some will built fantasy and will make story out of it and deny the facts, those are lunatics and you find
them everywhere, they don't want or don't have the brain to comprehend the reality,
which is more monstruous than what their mind can take, so they block their thinking process ,
and create the story, and repeat it to suit their ability to absorb better the evil actions, no one could expect
that monstruosity, because everywhere is death and pain and overwelming destruction,
which deserved the IRAK DESTRUCTION AND AFGHANISTAN,
ATTACK, WHICH THE MILITARY WHERE RESTRAINT TO KILL THE ENEMY, WHICH RESULT IN THEIR OWN DEATH AND LOST OF LIMBS AND MIND BUGGING DISTURBANCE BECAUSE OF THIS COMMANDER IN CHIEF HOLDING THEIR FIREPOWER,
MANY SAY, THE WORLD HAS CHANGE, NO
THE LEADER HAS CHANGE,
Architect Magazine: Architects Shy From Truther 9/11 Conspiracy Theory
“From Architect Magazine, this recent article on the distance the American Institute of Architects wisely puts between Richard Gage and AE911Truth:”
“There is and never will be an AIA endorsement of these foolish and anti-rational theories of Richard Gage and AE911Truth. Buyer, beware.
It was rather nice of the author to point out the borderline anti-Semitic theories of some of Gage’s followers, theories that Gage only half-heartedly holds away from himself and AE911Truth. Can’t bite the hand that feeds you, right, Richard?”
Architects Shy From Truther 9/11 Conspiracy Theory: Architects didn’t show up for a 9/11-architecture-conspiracy documentary screening—and the AIA doesn’t want its name associated with Trutherism.
What Really Happened at WTC building 7 on 9/11?
Chief Nigro said,
More debunking of the tinfoil 9/11 conspiracy hatters is available at: World Trade Center Building 7 and the Lies of the “9/11 Truth Movement” & Screw Loose Change Exposing the Lies Distortions and Myths of the 9-11 “Truthers”
What? No mention of any of the many leftist contemporary political agenda backers such as: George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, etc… Tsk, tsk, tsk. And here we thought you wanted us to believe you have no political bias.
unless they had accomplices preparing the different place by putting explosif ready for the plane two of them to hit, making a domino effect,
but not accusing the government to have play a roll, that’S when they lost their credibility,
like you joe,
ONE SAID IT FELL JUST LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS, YES FOR SURE, IT IS HOW IT WAS BUILT, NO SURPRISE THERE,
OOPS AND MAYBE THEY TRY TO SAVE THEIR ASS, IF THEY HAD PUT A HAND IN THE CONSTRUCTION, SAVE THEM FROM
BEING SUE FOR ALL THEY GOT,
AND WHAT THEY FOUND OF POWDER IS THE MATERIAL THE BUILDERS USED TO BUILD THOSE TOWERS,
some might been paid by the ARABS to discredit the the event and turn the guilt toward the AMERICANS
and PRESIDENT BUSH,
F..K THEM, THEY PROTECK THE MUSLIMS, THEY ARE THE WHORE WORST TRAITORS, THEY ASK WHY NO BONES FOUND,
CHECK IN THE MOSQE YOU ALL ARE BOUGHT BY THE FOREIGNERS, TRAITORS, THE MORE THEY TALK THE MORE WE SEE THEIR INTENT TO HURT AMERICA,
@Joe: 151 You said:
I said:
You said:
I didn’t say anything about it. I said there are 1.5 million engineers in the US. You are the one that said 1000 are questioning it. If more are questioning it, then why didn’t you say so. If they are NOT questioning it, then they are in the 1,499,000 engineers that ARE NOT questioning it. That seems very simple to me. Can you claim that there are ‘really’ more than a thousand, but can’t get them to ‘admit’ that they are questioning it?
you said:
yet you still use the number 1000? Has it now grown up to 1000, or is it more? If it’s more why not use the actual number rather than 1000?
You said:
so now they’re ‘architectural experts but NOT engineers, or are they included in the 1000, so if the number is ‘growing’ why is it still listed as 1000?
But steel bulkheads on ships melt and collapse because of fire? They’re usually built of steel.
You said:
Don’t have time right now, rather deal with those 1,499,000 engineers that do not agree with you. Do you realize that is only .066% of the engineers? That is way, way less than 1% of engineers. Seems if they had such a strong story and engineers being practical people that they would be flocking to add their opinion, but NOOOOO!!!.
@Redteam:
Engineers is a relative term. Maybe these are train or sewage engineers signing on to the 9-11 Tinfoil Hatter’s petition. Just because an internet petition signer claims to be an engineer or “expert” doesn’t make it so. There have been numerous cases of burning and/or collapsing buildings unexpectedly taking out nearby structures. Will Joe add them to the great 9-11 conspiracy theory, or blame it on those Jewish bankers?
Stay tuned kiddies.
@Ditto: I agree Ditto, but I wasn’t the one that used the term 1000 engineers and when looking at statistics where they say there are 1.5 million engineers employed in the US, I’m sure the sanitary engineers and railroad ‘engineers’ are included. But, it’s his claim, not mine, we’re dealing with.
Redteam
you always come at the right time,
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND LOVED ONES,
Ditto
YOU GOT A GOOD POINT,
THEY WANT TO DISCREDIT AND BLAME THE JEWS,
SHAME ON THEM,
I’m assuming you are either joking or you actually believe that the remaining “1,499,000” other engineers do not agree with me. *Rolls on floor laughing* Wow! And you have overwhelming evidence to support this illogical assumption?
When I said, “over 1,000”, the subject verbs in my sentence clearly means more than 1,000; not exactly 1,000. Thus your attempt to argue over the numbers is illogical and childish.
Rather than argue, I’ll simply let you watch the video’s at your convenience. The WTC 7 video is only about three minutes long; much shorter than the length of time it takes you respond to my posts.
Joe
So NOW who is conjuring up conspiracy theories. *laughs* You’re criticizing the engineers on a video documentation without even having seen it.
IF you watched the videos, you will have learned that the engineers are architectural engineers, demolition engineers, chemists who conducted microscopic research on ground-zero dust, and so forth. They are experts in what they do, unlike the 911 commissioners who work as bankers or corporate CEO’s. Yea, we just have to listen to them; they are the true experts. *Rolls on floor laughing*
What a joke!
Joe
Did you complete high school? If so, how proficient is your grammar? Here is the statement phrase again:
“more than 1,000 engineers…”
The adjective “more” modifies the noun “engineers”. This means that there are “more than 1,000 engineers” who have signed the petition against the 911 commission report. I hope this helps you genius. The exact number of engineers who are against the 911 commission report continues to grow, and thus far they are close to 2,000 engineers. No doubt there would be many more. However, at this time the position of the remaining engineers are not known, so we cannot speculate either way. Logically, the other engineers would NOT disagree once they’ve reviewed the facts.
At any rate, I wait your responses from the TWC 7 video. I already know the answer as it is seen on the video, and I also know who was responsible for bringing it down per his own words. I’d like to see if you know.
Joe
What??? Who is/are “they”? If you are referring to me, then you are mistaken. Discredit the Jews? How so?
Do you understand what or who a Jew is? According to St. Paul, a Jew is a Jew who is one inwardly, who was circumcised of his/her heart, and not the penis. Biological Jews have not existed for more than 2,000 years. Ancient Jews prior to Christ were required to prove their ancestry through biological birth right from the 12 Tribes of Israel. Anyone according to the laws of Moses who had foreign relations with a Gentile (marriage) were to be regarded as contaminated and was guilty of breaking their bloodline. Thus, when the blood line has been broken, they were to be cast out of the city. They may still worship, but they would no longer be permitted entrance into the temple area; they had to remain in the outer-courts. This was signifying what happens to a child of God who chooses to forsake Gods laws and thus return unto separation from God.
When Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD, and again in 132AD, not many biological Israeli’s remained. Thus, when God said, “I set aside the first, in order to establish the second”, we must therefore recognize that the ways under the Old Covenant are no longer applicable, and this includes tribal birth rights.
Tribal birth rights have not been required for more than two millenniums ever since Jesus crucified the old law on the cross. Thus, since the end of the first century AD, Israeli’s that remained were forced to live a perpetual life in the “sea of nations”. Just as St. John envisioned:
“I saw a large millstone throne into the sea, never to be found again….”
and again:
“The voice of the Bride and the Bridegroom will never be heard in you again…”
and again:
“The light of the lamp will never shine in you again..”
Since the passion of the Messiah Jesus, all who are Jews are born so according to His Holy Spirit. In Christ, there is no rich or poor, free or slave, Jew or Gentile. All are one and the same in the Body of Christ.
Ancient Israel (The woman in red who rides the Roman Beast with seven heads) was destroyed by the great fires culminating a seven year war. This war led to the complete destruction of their temple of luxury and wealth, and their apostasy from God by having been responsible for the death of the Messiah, and the murdering of the Apostles and their disciples.
Israel of the flesh is no more, and has not existed since the first century. Modern day Israeli’s have long since been contaminated and their blood lines are extinct by interracial marriages all through Europe; hence the phrase, “European Jews”. These are not recognized as true Jews per the ordinances of God; they are foreigners or Gentiles.
So when you say, “they are trying to blame and discredit the Jews”, you must be clear in what you mean. Are you referring to modern day secular Israeli’s who call themselves Jews, but as Jesus would thus say, “are a synagogue of Satan”? Or are you referring to Jews born from Christ?
Joe
JOE
are you a pure blood AMERICAN ?
AND YOU CALL YOURSELF AMERICAN,
SO ARE THE JEWS OF ISRAEL, BORN OF ADAM AND EVE,
LIKE YOU,
Joe, you keep parroting “Watch the video.” Do I have any guarantee that any video based on your Alex Jones conspiracy theory has not been altered or photo shopped in some way? Also, do you agree with Alex Jones’ premise that FDR not only knew beforehand that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor, but that he actually helped them plan the attack?
I will say one thing for you; you’re persistent, if nothing else. But you have bought into a conspiracy theory that has no foundation. Where are the people that supposedly set the charges? You want to tell us that George Bush, his entire staff, the CIA, the FBI and every other federal agency, who would have to had been in on the plot, not one of them has come forward and said “I set the charges that brought down the World Trade Center”?
Here’s a thought; why don’t you expand all that energy in things you can prove; Fast and Furious that took the life of Brian Terry; the ROEs under the Administration that are getting our soldiers slaughtered in Afghanistan; the loss of money to the American taxpayer on fiascos like Solyndra and all Obama’s other failed green causes; the persecution of conservative groups by the IRS; and much, much more.
Instead, you beat a dead horse and most people think you are a fruitcake and all you can say is “Watch the video.” You’re painfully misguided.
@Joe:
I guess you also believe the DiVinci Code?
Seek mental help. NOW.
@retire05:
Think? he’s a fruitcake? He’s proven it hasn’t he.. Certifiable fruitcake.
What? it’s not true? LOL
Okay, semantics….How many more? 2? 3? If it’s one thousand and 14, why not say 1014 engineers instead of ‘over 1000’.
chemists are not engineers, so does that bring the number back under a 1000?
I’m not gonna lie about how many degrees as you did, what was it you said ‘several degrees with a 3.96 GPA’ Well, I don’t have ‘several’. But I do have enough.
You are the one that used the number 1000, that leaves ‘all the rest’.
ROFL will suffice and save time.
Just gotta love that question. Remember this question Joe? Rothschilds? who are they? If you had answered that question, you might have answered your own question.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Thanks Bees, I’m trying to keep these Libs straight.
@Joe:
I hate to be picky, Joe, but the adjective “more” actually modifies the number 1000 doesn’t it?
Oops!. If you want to modify an engineer, you might use ‘short’ or ‘tall’ or ‘red-headed’.
@Joe:
Let’s dissect this a little. The exact number of engineers who are against the 911 commission report continues to grow exact number? what is this ‘exact’ number? is it the ‘more than’ exact number? But if it was ‘exact’ but ‘continues to grow’, is it still an exact number or is it now bigger than the ‘exact number’?
Did that materialize out of ‘thin air’? where did ‘close to 2,000 engineers’ come from. If it is ‘close to 2000″ why are you still saying ‘more than 1000’? why didn’t you use ‘close to 2000’? Maybe it’s because you’ve confused your adjectives with your adverbs.
No they won’t. First, there are no ‘facts’, they are only wild ass opinions. As I’ve told you, I am one of those “other engineers’ and there is no way I will change my opinion.
Joe
AND WOU WANT THAT WHAT’S HIS NAME, TO RUN FOR ELECTION, OH JESSE VENTURA HEY?
HE SUE THE WIFE OF CRIS KYLE THAT HERO WHO LOST HIS LIFE FOR HELPING A SICK SOLDIER,
YOU ARE TWISTING EVERY GOOD THINGS ABOUT THIS COUNTRY,
WHICH IT’S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU FOUGHT IN THE MILITARY,
I NOW DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAID, EVEN ONE LIE ERASE ANY OTHER WORDS,
WHICH MIGHT HAVE PASS,
I AM SORRY FOR THOSE YOU TELL TO, ALL YOUR LIES,
LET CHUCK NORRIS EDUCATE YOU, HE CAN UNSCREW YOUR HEAD AND TURN IT A FEW ROTATION S WHICH COULD BRING SANITY IN THE CORRUPT NEURONES,
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Great idea.
Joe
AND HOW MANY MUSLIM ENGENEERS IN THAT GROUP,
YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISE,
when the 9/11 HAPPENED, THAT AMERICAN WAS COMING OUT OF AN AIRPORT,
AND MANAGE TO RENT A CAR, HE SAW A PERSON HE WORK WITH, THEY WHERE BOTH ENGENEERS
IN A COMPANY, THE OTHER SEEMS TO BE FINDING HARD TO FIND HIS CAR,
SO THE AMERICAN LIKE SO MANY OTHER COMPASSIONATES, INVITED HIM TO RIDE IN HIS CAR,
HE RELATED THE OTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE 9/11, THE OTHER A MUSLIM WAS HAPPY ,
AND NOT SHY OF ACCUSING THE AMERICAN OVER THE EVENT AND SAY THEY DESERVE IT,
THE AMERICAN WAS DISGUSTED AND LET HIM OUT AS SOON AS HE COULD, HE DID NOT ARGUE,
BECAUSE HE WORK BESIDE HIM, AND MENTION ABOUT THE MANY MUSLIMS SEND BY THEIR COUNTRY TO LEARNING ENGENEERING IN HIS COMPANY AND ABROAD IN OTHER COMPANIES,
HE SAID HE FELT LIKE KILLING HIM AT THE TIME,
I am an American by physical birth, which makes me a citizen. But with God I am a Jew, born of Christ from above, through His Sanctification.
Joe
Honestly, you really need to stop wasting so much time and fear about Alex Jones. And no, the video is not from Alex Jones, but from independent researchers trying to inform the public of the truth. This is because the global banking cartel owns the media, and thus suppresses the truth from the public.
The video I’m trying to convince you to watch shows how WTC 7 came down; it’s only three or more minutes long. It shows the demolition explosions taking place, blowing out glass, and thus crumbling at gravity speed; exactly as towers 1 and 2 collapsed. Why won’t you watch the video?
The people who set the charges is uncertain at this time. However, Susan Lindauer (Former CIA Asset) discloses information about several white vans weeks prior to 911 parking at the WTC buildings from 0300 – 0500 hours. No explanation of what they were doing was ever provided, but they were seen on video. All of the vans were unmarked, but they did possess government tags. She believes those were CIA agents painting the nano-thermite on the beams, and also setting up demolition charges.
As for anyone coming forward, why would they? You’ve got to be joking! *laughs*
Private investigators have been working the 911 issue for a long time, thanks to the survivors of the 911 attacks. They’ve pushed to have another investigation, which unfortunately has cost many of them their lives. But without their persistence, our nation would continue in the jeopardy we are in as we speak; and it’s going to get much worse.
I personally believe, based on circumstantial evidence, that David Rockefeller, along with Dick Chaney, George Bush Senior, members of the Rothschild’s, and unknown members from the Pentagon all played a roll in this. In fact, CIA whistle blowers have mentioned how the Pentagon and USNORTHCOM participated in exercises for years in preparation for a 911 style attack on the WTC. Yet, if you recall, the government usurped the “plausible deniability” after the attacks, exclaiming, “How were we supposed to know that terrorists would use airplanes and slam them into the WTC”? If they didn’t know, then why were they exercising?
Please, just watch the video. Here is the link again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZmSHTiYa2M
You will see and hear about 8 or 9 demolition explosions just prior to the collapse. Once you’ve seen the evidence taken from a digital camera, then view the explanation in the next video, which explains the science behind a collapsing building; it shows evidence of failed demolitions and what happens to a building when a buildings structural support is damaged unevenly, as was the case with towers 1, 2, 6 and 7. You’re the engineer; certainly you are open minded to the evidence or could FACTUALLY prove them wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk
I’m trying to prove it, but you refuse to watch the video’s. That tells me you’re turning a blind eye and refusing to accept the fact (no longer opinion) that a false flag operation is definitely the key factor. Please, soften your heart and listen to reason. That’s all I’m asking you to do. If you refuse, then unfortunately there’s nothing further to discuss. You’ve already made up your mind that the issue of 911 is not important to you, and would rather believe the lies of the 911 commission (bankers and rich boys). 911 is very important because it involves our own national security. If our own government is willing to do this so as to slowly remove our freedoms under the Patriot Act, and we are plunged into a police state, thus losing even more of our rights, then unfortunately it will be because of people like you who refuse to search for the truth. Our country depends on the truth.
Who thinks I’m a fruit cake? This small blog? *Laughs very hard* You don’t know me at all fella. How can you cast such a judgment upon me without reviewing the evidence, and yet exclaiming the evidence is from the Alex Jones? The only fruitcake I’m seeing thus far is you. Limited education blinded by your luxurious retirement, with an attitude that your wealth (if you are wealthy) came from your own hard work, and not the work of others.
Why are you so afraid to view the evidence?
Joe
Oh please. *laughs* By the way, I know Chuck Norris and I’ve had the pleasure of meeting him years ago. I was a student at one of his schools in Augusta, Ga. His student (who was my teacher) was a man name Eric Hinsley.
Chuck and his wife are well aware of the New World Order that’s being pushed by some members in Congress, and the Rockefeller family (and others).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HNcmC3UZBo
While they are still blinded by the idea of Al-Qaeda, in time they too will see the evidence that has only begun to surface.
Here are video’s denoting George Bush Senior, and a few other Politicians SUPPORTING the New World Order agenda; note how they all praise David Rockefeller. While Chuck is blaming this on Obama, he doesn’t know that Obama is being forced into this by the Rockefeller’s.
And here’s Bush Senior pushing the agenda for a New World Order in 1991:
You guys are silly. *laughs*
Joe
Would you stop being so obstuse and stubborn and just watch the video? The numbers are from the video. Geez, it’s like talking to a brick wall. *laughs*
You really don’t have a clue. A noun is modified by a verb, adverb, and/or adjective. When was the last time you’ve taken grammar courses?
http://www.grammarly.com/handbook/grammar/adjectives-and-adverbs/5/adjectives-modify-nouns/
Adjectives modify nouns. In the phrase,
“more than 1,000 engineers”,
the adjective, “more” modifies the noun, “engineer”. An adjective is used to describe the attributes or characteristics of a noun. Here is another example class:
“John is very tall.”
John is a pronoun (still a noun nonetheless) that is modified by a description by the use of the adjective, “Tall”. The adverb “very” supports the adjective which thus describes John as being “very tall”. Additionally, the phrase, “very tall” is also the subject verb of the sentence.
Class dismissed. *rolls on floor laughing*
There you have it! You’re the professional Engineer who refuses to review the evidence identified by other scientists and engineers because you claim to be an engineer who believes jet fuel can bring down a sky scraper. If this were true, then shouldn’t the 911 commissioners have recommended to future architects working on sky scraper projects to redesign their construction plans? As it now stands, they do not recommend any improvements or changes. GEE, I wonder why???
Tell me, what type of engineering are you specialized in? Toy modeling?
Despite the fact that you are unwilling to view the evidence, you are still required to disprove the evidence I’ve provided. Thus far, you have provided “ZERO” evidence despite the sources I’ve provided. And I’ve provided you MORE THAN AMPLE evidence which YOU REFUSE TO WATCH!Thus, I’m beginning to believe that you yourself are part of the conspirators who have overtaken my country. It’s either that, or you are merely stubborn, obviously uneducated and completely ignorant of the truth.
If you’re not going to watch the video’s and counter the evidence provided, then the discussion is over. And you lose!
Joe
Joe
DON’T CHANGE THE SUBJECT WITH GRAMMAR,
WE HAVE SEEN THAT ONE BEFORE,
THIS IS NOT A GRAMMAR LESSON,
@Joe:
I am not going to debunk every talking point you lay out here, but come on, unmarked white vans? When I was in business, I had three white [unmarked] vans that I used daily. Am I one of your anonymous suspects?
Really, dude. Put your energies where they need to be. Nineteen radical jihadists slaughtered almost 3,000 people on 9/11/01; two radical Islamists slaughtered many at the Boston marathon; and one radical Islamist did his ugly deed at Fort Hood. We have the Muslim Brother trying to shove Islam education into our public schools, with some success due to the cultural Marxists in our midst. We have radical Islamists being ferried across our borders by the Mexican drug cartels. Radical Islam is the greatest threat to western society in the history of the world, yet you want to hand with the League of Lunatics. Well, that is your choice. But in spite of you slinging insults, I do care about 9-11 and all you have to do is take a look at the rest of the world to understand what the real threat is. You seem to want to ignore that.
I have seen all your stupid videos years ago. They have been around for a long time and I wasn’t impressed then, why should I be now. As to Building 7 well, Popular Science debunked that as well. Answer this; how long will a building stand that is violenting burning when there are no firefighters assigned to that building?
You say idiot things like: firefighters saw stuff at the World Trade center but of course, they are all dead now. How friggin’ convenient.
You remind me of a neighbor I had that had been a brilliant physicist but destroyed his brain with LSD. The last few years of his life he had Reynold’s Wrap covering all his windows and had constructed a Reynold’s Wrap tent over his bed. He finally got committed because he became dangerous to himself. That’s your future if you don’t get your head right.
Do I think you’re nuts? You betcha.
@Joe:
I heard that the Jews killed Jesus. Any truth to that rumor?
Not rumor, but biblical fact my friend. It was the Jews who demanded to Pontius Pilot to have the Messiah crucified. Pontius Pilot objected and said He didn’t do anything deserving of death. They insisted that he be crucified, and then claimed full responsibility,
“His blood be on our own heads, and our children, and our children’s children”.
The first century Scribes, Sadducees, and Pharisees rejected Jesus as the Messiah promised through Moses, Daniel, Isaiah, and the other Old Testament Prophets, because He (Jesus) did not support the traditions they had incorporated into the Law (Mosaic System). They were also upset because He ridiculed them for turning the Holy Temple into a market place for acquiring wealth. Sadly, we see this very same thing happening in Churches today, and even yesterday.
John had several visions in the book of Revelation revealing this truth. John saw a Beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns. Biblically speaking, the “sea” is a metaphoric description of nations surrounding Israel, and Israel is described as the center or heart of the earth. What he was seeing was an explanation of the Roman Empire and the seven Emperors of Rome. Two kings were identified with the Gamatria value of 666 (or 616 in Latin manuscripts). Nero Caesar’s name in Hebrew equates to 666; or 616 in Latin. Domitian’s name also equates to 666 according to the spelling as identified on some of his coins. Thus, Nero was the head that was wounded, and Domitian is that same had that permitted its recovery.
John sees one of the seven heads injured, but recovered. He is told by the Angel that the head that was wounded is a beast that recovers by an 8th king. The 8th king of Rome was Emperor Flavian Domitian. Nero Caesar was the fifth king of Rome. Nero was the first to persecute the Church in the early 60’s AD, having blamed them for the “Great fire of Rome”. This of course had full support by first century false Jews. Interestingly enough, Domitian did the same thing, but expanded the persecution throughout the Roman Empire. Comparatively they both declared themselves to be descendants of the divine god of Zeus. Domitian declared to the Roman Senate, “I do hereby declare myself divine…” I could almost hear the opposition from the Senators. *laughs*
The Book of Acts describes in the New Testament how the false Jews persecuted the Church and sought permission through the Roman authorities to have Christians placed on trial and killed. Some of them were directly responsible for the death of James, Stephen, and others. Fortunately for the Church, Jesus fulfilled his prediction that one day they (false Jews) would engage in war and be completely surrounded by the Romans. This was fulfilled between 66-70AD.
John summarizes these events in the book of Revelation to show how the former wife of God (Jews based on the mosaic system and circumcision of the penis) would be put aside, so that his new bride/wife could be married to the bridegroom (Jesus). Thus, the Harlot is a picture of first century Apostate Israel, and the Beast is a picture of the Roman Empire. The 10 horns are likely (although uncertain) the Herod’s who ruled specific regions throughout Israel. The New Bride described as a 1,500 mile tall, wide and long city is a symbolic picture of the first century Church. Amazingly, the Church is described with amazing size with 12 different foundations, each representing the 12 Tribes of Israel, and the three pearls at each side of the gates (North, South, East, and West) to represent the testimony of the Apostles. Thus, the description is a spiritual vision of the Church’s reality in the first century. They (first century Christians) are its foundation and architecture, and we are the children (if you are a Christian) who enter into the gates (metaphorically speaking) each and everyday.
I hope you have at least enjoyed this discussion. :o)
Joe
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I heard that it was George Bush Senior that put the plan together, he was going to drive the white Fiat Van carrying Rockefeller and Chaney with 2 members of the Rothchilds family but they insisted that it be a GMC van (American made) and he didn’t want to drive the GMC (too big for him) So they got an undercover CIA agent with a driver (a 4 star General) to drive the GMC to take the explosives. Now, personally I think the real reason that they switched to the white GMC van was that during the 0300-0500 rehearsals, they found out that the Fiat was too small for all of them to eat comfortably when they went through McDonalds drive thru for breakfast after the rehearsals. Reliable reports (from more than 1000 engineers) seem to share that opinion. (I haven’t checked with the other 1,499,000 engineers) But there was a reliable report (probably from one of those engineers) that the sound proofing was pretty good in the GMC and they could hardly hear all those explosions going off in building 7.
No, you misunderstood, we’ve watched the videos about
just not the one about building 7. You should try our videos, they really tell the truth.
You do realize that it is the Dimocrats that are doing this, right? They’re the ones in charge of the operation, well, except for the part that George Bush Sr is personally doing (but I heard the Rothschilds were pressuring him pretty heavily).
Where did that come from? We know you very well, you’re a 45 year old disabled vet that studied Air Conditioning (didn’t finish) and worked on F16’s in Iraq and got some of your organs fried by radar when some Iraqi’s were working on someone’s radar. That radiation resulted in cancer which resulted in your disability. What was left undetermined was how much it fried your brain, resulting in you having a hysteria about all the super rich republicans in the world controlling the banks and congress (and the rest of the world) (well, except Russia and Cuba) Since we couldn’t control them, we hatched a plot to blow up the WTC so that they would get the blame for that. Unfortunately, after all the great planning, we reached a new deal with Putin so then we couldn’t blame it on the Russians, so they found out that Bin Laden didn’t like the US, so the CIA recommended that we blame him for it. The CIA knew he was already in hiding so he wouldn’t show his face in public to deny it, so they could get away with the whole scheme.
Now Joe, I’m sure you’re not going to believe EVERYTHING I’ve said, but you should read all the Ultra secret documents and you will be convinced. (what with fried brain syndrome and all). The last time I surveyed those that had read those documents, there were exactly 1,397 engineers convinced that it was true.
You could not have seen all of the video’s I’ve provided as some of them are but a year old. And the footage seen about WTC 7 clearly shows roughly 9 explosions inside the building (seen through the windows) and THEN the building begins to collapse. Now what’s interesting is you claimed that others have debunked this. I’d love to see this evidence because the legal owner of the buildings (Larry Silverstein) is the one wo ordered its destruction. But when (or why) did he allow a demolition crew the install explosives?
The firefights are denoted ON VIDEO describing the explosions and the dead bodies at the bottom of the basement as they were returning from upstairs. This was not mentioned in the 911 commission report. Some of the firefighters were mysteriously killed in 2005, but we have them on video record making these statements.
I’m sorry, but it is obvious you do not want to know or see the truth. You would rather believe the absurdities of the 911 commissioners using false science and no actual evidence to support their claims. A building weakened at certain points WILL NOT cause the complete symmetrical collapse at gravity speed at all other points. The building would thus fall incrementally, and not in totality as we all witnessed. This was proven by using examples of failed demolitions….if only you would have watched the video.
So because you are not interested in a truthful discussion (and I don’t blame you), I will not mention the 911 events anymore. I am not hear to force the truth down anyone’s throat, figuratively speaking. I’m merely a voice trying to find listeners in the hopes of preventing my worst fears; the fall of our nation to a rogue group of powerful elitist’s ruling in a New World Order.
The 911 discussion is now terminated. You may comment, but I will not respond. Besides, I will agree that we ventured way off topic here. *laughs*
May blessings to you.
Joe
The numbers according to the AE911 Truth Petition Signature list are about 2,000, assuming the source is correct. The source appears to provide full names and locations:
http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/ae.html
IMHO, the reason for the continued growth is relative to the additional evidence’s that has surfaced, and the former CIA, FBI and other whistle blowers speaking out; some of whom were imprisoned. Susan L. was held in custody without a trial for nearly a year, before an online petition was enough to scare the judge into letter her go. Karen Hudes (former global banking attorney) also spilled the beans on the evil plot by the global elitist’s to take over the world. However, she believes they are part of the Vatican. I, on the other hand, believe this small rogue but powerfully rich group to be part of the “Skull and Bones” and “Illuminati” groups.
I don’t believe that Obama is pushing the NWO on his own. Dick Cheney and George Bush Senior are documented on video praising the NWO as far back as 1991. But the NWO agenda actually predates all of us.
Nicholas Rockefeller admitted this to Aaron Russo, who provided this information as he was mysteriously dying of cancer which killed him very quickly. Ever since Aaron’s death, I believe the black coats (CIA, FBI, Etc.) have been trying to unleash negative propaganda to hide the identify of Nicholas Rockefeller. Fortunately, their attempts to hide his identify have failed. The funny part was how someone paid a homeless man to make a video on the street and denounce the existence of Nicholas Rockefeller. *laughs* Yea, as if a homeless man really cares about whether or not Nicholas exists.
Some believe Aaron was lying. But considering he was dying, why would he? What did he have to gain by doing such a thing? And given the events since the gulf war, I’d say Aaron was spot on. The WTC attacks did happen; the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan did happen; and now they want to go to war against Iran, so that they can run a natural gas pipeline from Afganistan to Iraq. This is confirmed by Karen Hudes and 11 other whistle blowers in Europe.
Joe
@Joe:
Oh, I see, because those videos are only a year old, that means no one but you insiders have seen it?
You are a clown.
Did you mean you, as in inclusive of everyone or you, as in me? Because after you made that statement, you responded just four minutes later.
Redteam
fantastic you made JOE admit finally that he was in the plot to explode the TWO TOWERS,
which he provide his 4 unmark white van,
I THINK THAT YOU SUCCEEDE BECAUSE you are a secret agent still looking for the traitors,
who escape after they help the terrorists land the planes by going thru the walls, OF THOSE TOWERS
and helping them down from the 100 and 6 FLOOR, JOE came down with the terrorist and ran outside, before the black cloud darken all vision of anything down on the road,
SO THEY SURVIVED AND ESCAPED,UNTIL YOU REDTEAM CAUGHT UP WITH THEM AND ARREST THEM,
BUT YOU LET OUT Joe, THE LEADER OF THE OTHERS, Joe had the plan, HE IS AN ENGENEER,
AND CONVINCE HIS FRIENDS ENGENEERS TO HIS STORY,
WHICH IS , BLAME BUSH ALL THE TIME, AND THEY WILL BELIEVE IT, THAT’S WHERE OBAMA TOOK IT TO WIN HIS ELECTION, ON BLAME BUSH,
@Joe:
Unbelievable, I just went through all that. remember short engineer, tall engineer, red headed engineer. I don’t need someone that is ignorant of the English language attempting to lecture me. If an adjective modifies a noun, then the adjective and noun used together still makes sense. For example, tall engineer. take your sentence. More than 1000 engineers. so is more modifying engineers, i.e., ‘more than engineers’ or is it modifying the number? more than 1000? Didn’t you say you meant that it was more than 1000? So, using more than 1000 engineers, means the more is intended to say more than 1000, not more than engineers.
Next time you need a grammar lesson, check with someone with a real degree, not a certificate in Auto body repair. How many English grammar credit hours were required to get that Auto body repair certificate anyhow. ROFL. See, that works.
@Joe:
I told you. Chemical Eng. (pssst, that means I have a little knowledge of chemicals and reactions of chemicals)
Let’s see, would you believe me if I said my middle name is Rothschild? (I’m not saying it is, but I’m not saying it’s not) LOL
Redteam
I have a degree, I can help Joe to master his grammar,
I am fluent in english spoken and written,
BYE
@Joe:
Probably those danged old Koch Brothers, George Bush, the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. They’re responsible for everything. They had just finished up that project when they decided to get the World Trade Center next.
@Joe: 184
Now that just cracks me up.
the footage ‘clearly shows” roughly 9 explosions it ‘clearly shows’ ‘roughly 9 explosions’. Does it clearly show, or approximately shows, is it ‘roughly’ 9 explosions or ‘exactly’ nine explosions? If it ‘clearly shows’ why can’t you tell exactly how many? I’m glad you cleared all that up for us.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Dang it Bees, you weren’t supposed to point that out with Joe being here to reveal the ‘truth’. As you said, I’m a secret agent and I was trying to keep that a secret. Now I’m gonna have to change my appearance so I can still be a secret agent.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
I’ll say…. Joe has an excellent opportunity for a couple of good teachers. Hope he doesn’t waste his chance.
@Joe:Joe, I watched that video of GHW Bush talking about NWO. I think that is racist, don’t you? I mean several times he said he wanted a new order where we used the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle. He’s implying that using the rule of law (of white men?) is better than the rule of the jungle (of black men?) I never thought about him being racist, but surely that’s what this whole New World Order thing is all about, isn’t it?
Redteam
don”t change your look,
if you hire me with a good earning,
i can protect you FROM BEING DISCOVER BY Joe,
BYE
*laughs* The words “clearly” and “roughly” are conveyed in the same manner; their use is synonymous to my point, and thus there’s no difference. Furthermore, one of you griped earlier about arguing grammar and yet you persist against his recommendation. *rolls eyes*
The point of the matter is simple, and I thought I was grammatically clear. The video “clearly” shows “roughly” 9 explosions. However that’s not neglecting the fact that other explosions occurred as well, although were not recorded on camera; this is what I meant by the phrase, “roughly 9 explosions”. Is this hard to understand?
It is obvious that you have no desire to debate the merits of the video’s; you just want to debate my how my evidence is delivered (i.e. spelling, grammar). And honestly, you don’t want to continue down that road after having been embarrassed already. ;o)
So are you going to debate the issues, or shall we continue about grammar and spelling?
Debate the evidence and NOT the presentation of the evidence.
Joe
@Joe:
Joe, here is one of your links, the one that opens with an orange.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk
It attempts to use the old trick of showing you an orange then saying that if someone told you it was something else, you wouldn’t believe them because you are seeing it with your own eyes and using your own experience of having seen oranges before.
Then it tries to equate that to showing you a video of a building being exploded and using that to serve as your “seeing it with your own eyes and using your own experience of having seen oranges before.” which of course ”does not’ do that because whereas you likely have actually seen oranges with your own eyes, you just as likely ‘have not’ seen buildings imploded with your own eyes.
No people had seen the WTC 7 building imploded prior to that day (i.e., had never seen an orange before) so they couldn’t say from their own experience that what they were seeing was a ‘controlled explosion’ of building 7 or not.
Next.
Discover what? That you guys are black-coat agents trying to phish for information? Or perhaps a few computer geeks trying to use my email address and hack into my network? Or is there something more sinister going on here? *laughs*
Joe
@Joe:
Chuckle.