This is the “democracy” we’re supporting in Ukraine

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We are pouring money hand over fist into Ukraine. Recently the Biden regime announced another $1 billion package destined for Kyiv, binging the total to at least $76 billion from the US alone.  This is all being done in the name of democracy.

But for what kind of democracy are we engaged in

(sound familiar?)

He’s ousting defense officials

He nationalized TV news and has restricted opposition parties.

Zelenskyy made a thinly veiled threat against European countries should support wane:

Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned.

Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

Zelenskyy said that Putin would come for the rest of the world should he prevail in Ukraine.

In a bizarre rambling statement Zelenskyy claimed that climate change is killing people and the only answer was more money for Ukraine

“Even though humanity is failing on its climate policy objectives, this means that extreme weather will still impact the normal global life & some evil state will also weaponize its outcomes. “And when people in the streets of New York & other cities of the world went out on climate protest, we all have seen them, & when people in Morocco & Libya, & other countries die as a result of natural disasters, & when islands & countries disappear underwater, & when tornadoes & deserts are spreading into — into new territories, & when all of this is happening, one, a natural disaster in Moscow, decided to launch a big war & killed tens of thousands of people. We have to stop it. “We must act, united to defeat the aggressor & focus all our capabilities and energy on addressing these challenges. As nukes are restrained, likewise, the aggressor must be restrained at all his tools and methods of the war. Each word now can become final, but it takes our unity to make sure that aggression will not break in again. And it is not a dialogue between the so-called great power somewhere behind closed doors that can guarantee us all the new wars era but open war of all nations for peace.”

Somehow, more money for Ukraine will stop earthquakes. What islands have disappeared?

And by the way, Zelenskyy is holding an American in a Ukrainian prison

While lawmakers on Capitol Hill in Washington D.C. debate sending billions more in military aid to Ukraine, an American citizen journalist, Gonzalo Lira, is languishing in a Ukrainian prison on allegations of spreading Russian propaganda, throwing into question the status of free speech in the supposed democracy the Biden administration argues is worthy of more taxpayer dollars.

The Biden administration is asking Congress to approve another $24 billion for Ukraine for now through the end of this year, which would add to the $113 billion that Congress has committed to the country since its war with Russia began in February of last year.

President Biden on Tuesday at the United Nations argued that investment in Ukraine was an investment in “the future of every country that seeks a world governed by basic rules.”

I don’t know about you, but this doesn’t strike me as democracy. Ukraine has become a money pit for the US war machine. The war is at a stalemate. Russia pretty much has what it needs.

Zelenskyy has indeed come a long way.

Or has he?

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News like this makes me grateful my best friends and family members are now dead . I see this humiliation is debasing . I loved my friends and family yet the truth is. It’s the living who must bear the torch and watch in bewilderment . The downfall of this once great Republic . When the end game has befallen maybe then the world will cry ? Oh death were is your sting ? For then it will be to late . The dead torch holders have no thought , so the sting is no more . I consider this mercy . A person need not die physically to be dead . No,.. they could be forced that way , mentally .

One word comes to mind concerning Zelensky . Calculi !

Listen to Zelensky.
He’s an accomplished blackmailer.
That’s the one thing he’s good at.
joe cannot afford the price Zelensky demands of him, so joe forces us all to pay for his blackmail.
If joe can’t keep the money going to Zelensky, Zelensky will talk about Burisma, Hunter AND joe.
Now Zelensky is trying his strong-arm tactic on his own allies in Europe.
How long will they feed a dog that bites them?
Poland has already quit.

zelenskyy is on his own. Poland pulled all support and congress, both chambers right now is a hard no on any more funds to Ukraine.

Remember back in spring of 2022 when Russian assets around the world were being seized? It is time to seize the assets of any of Zelenskyy’s cadre who benefited for American tax dollars. Seize their assets and repatriate that money to our southern border.

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McCarthy Denies Zelenskyy’s Request to Address Congress

It’s a goofy Argentine dance instructor named Pablo Acosta. You’ve won today’s award for Most Gullible People on the Planet.

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zelensky is a dead man walking. He had the opportunity early in the conflict to agree to peace. He handlers in the west prohibited him from doing so. Thousands of innocent and military were unnecessarily killed.

No more money to Ukraine.

They’re resisting invasion of their homeland by a murderous Russian dictator that your cult leader calls “a very smart man.”

Yup, cope more.
Women and pensioners in the trenches. Installed like a toilet, Zelensky has murdered all young Ukrainian men.

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As long a zelensky forces his people to go into battle, the death toll will continue. There is no hope for the Ukraine military against Russia.

Putin has murdered them. He sent troops and tanks and launched drones and missiles to kill Ukrainians in their own towns and villages. Have you somehow missed that fact?

The Russian invasion was unprovoked. Nobody invaded Russian territory. Putin lost it because Ukraine preferred economic alignment with western democracies to domination by a Russian tyrant.

Does a nation have no right to determine it’s own destiny, or to defend itself from violent invasion? Since when is any of that a “provocation”?

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Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden enabled it. It never would have happened under Trump. NEVER.

The Russian invasion was unprovoked. Nobody invaded Russian territory. Putin lost it because Ukraine preferred economic alignment with western democracies to domination by a Russian tyrant.

2014 Greg got it

Putin sent troops into Crimea because he perceived a growing threat to Russia’s national interests. He perceived that threat because of what the Ukrainian government was saying and doing.

And

How do you imagine Russia perceives the expansion of NATO? Albania, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey… North Atlantic? WTF, indeed.

And:

What should have been done differently? Are you suggesting that we should have gone to war with Russia?

You people are quick to criticize, but slow (as always) to state specifically what should have been done differently. Most likely because you realize you’d scare the bejesus out of all rational people who realize that Crimea really isn’t our problem.

But present day Greg says the opposite …I wonder why.

Well, we all know why.

Why? Because it’s no longer 2014.

We fed the wolf, but it wasn’t enough. Now it’s trying to eat a country.

We fed the wolf, but it wasn’t enough. Now it’s trying to eat a country.

“We” being Obama, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden and Democrats. Trump starved the beast. Fed the wolf, got paid in return. Trump presented strength and resolve and Putin didn’t dare challenge him.

Think of an answer yet? Is Putin smart?

This whole debacle has been pushed by our marxist radical state department. The victoria nulands and jake shermans are responsible for the color revolution of 2014 and the subsequent removal of a duly elected President of Ukraine. That duly elected President was elected by the People of Ukraine. That he was sympathetic toward Russia was unacceptable to nuland/sherman.

How far we have drifted from the foreign policy of our former Presidents.

John Quincy Adams famously proclaimed “America goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy” in a speech that has been quoted ever since to justify noninterference by the United States in the affairs of other nations.

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Do you think Putin is not smart? Think you can muster an answer instead of being a chicken-shit coward?

There would be no war in Ukraine if Trump was still President. Only the stupid, moronic, totally incompetent policies of Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden enabled Putin to invade Ukraine. Also, once Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden had enabled the war, he fiddle-f**ked around and wouldn’t provide the necessary equipment to actually defeat the invading Russians. He started the war, then he made sure Putin would win. Never forget that.

I think “smart” is an undesirable trait in megalomaniacs and homicidal lunatics.

Well, you don’t disappoint. You simply can’t answer a simple question. Is Putin smart or not?

If you were smarter yourself, you’d realize your question has been answered.

If you were smarter yourself, you’d realize your question has been answered.

Well, I sincerely apologize, but I see neither a “yes” or a “no” in any of your cowardly, chickenshit evasions. If YOU were smarter, you could hide your leftist, crybaby, spoiled brat, fascist yellow streak a little better.

The war for Ukraine is lost. They can no longer fight with a geriatric military.

I guess they should focus on killing Putin.

I guess they should focus on killing Putin Zelensky

Fixed for you

Maybe we should give them one nuke capable of hitting Moscow, and then suggest that Putin pull his invaders out of Ukraine.

NUKES, nukes? and you call Putin a homicidal maniac?
Get help seriously

You leftists love proliferating nuclear weapons, don’t you?

Trump’s little buddy Putin has been rapidly expanding Russia’s nuclear arsenal. Patriarch Kirill—the guy who wears a cross on his head like a hood ornament—claims nuclear weapons were God’s gift to Russia. (He also says Russia is a peace-loving power that does not engage in military adventures, while simultaneously endorsing Putin’s invasion of Ukraine on behalf of God and the Russian Orthodox Church.)

If that’s not a clue that you’re supporting the wrong dog in the fight, consider the dictatorships Putin has aligned himself with: Iran, North Korea, Communist China, Belarus, Syria… Do you think he didn’t jump for joy at the Hamas attack on Israel?

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Trump treated his “buddy” rather harshly. He sanctioned him and kept his oil revenues low, thanks to US energy independence and production. It has been the Biden Crime Family that has been in the money business with Putin and Russia receiving millions of dollars and expensive gifts from Russians (i.e., PUTIN). And, as we have seen, this money has a tendency to filter into Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden’s checking accounts.

YOU’VE chosen to support the side that enables wars and terrorism as they enrich themselves. Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden has aligned himself with Russia, China and Iran.

What I said is true. Putin has been expanding his nuclear weapons capabilities; God’s Voice in Russia says their nukes are divinely ordained, and actively supports the military invasion of Ukraine; Putin’s allies are all authoritarian dictatorships.

I support the people who actively oppose that guy. I don’t like authoritarian dictatorships.

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So says the guy that backed forced vaccination and lockdowns.
Quite simple you back anything Democrats do, no matter how much the stomp all freedom.

I support Democrats because I support much of what they do and stand for. Trump represents everything I don’t, and he’s beat the GOP into spineless submission. That makes the choice easy. Anybody but Trump.

The man is a proto-fascist. Give him half a chance and he’ll do government loyalty purges and have the military on the streets enforcing his will. He’s said as much. He thinks he’s justified in throwing out all laws, rules, and regulations—even those in the Constitution. He said that too. Just give him an opportunity, and he’ll show you.

You don’t seem to know know what an authoritarian dictatorship is. You should compare your freedoms in the USA with what you’d have in Putin’s Russia. Openly expressing your opinions about Putin like you do about Biden would land you in prison. Serious challengers to Putin’s control get locked up or murdered.

America isn’t a totalitarian police state because the government pressured a population in the grips of a pandemic to wear masks and get a vaccination. Our hospitals were on the brink of collapse, while the virus cranked out new variants faster than we could keep track.
Over a million Americans died before things leveled off. It was a national crisis that required a national response.

Now propagandists and revisionists are telling people that the vaccine was a government plot that killed more people than the virus did.

I don’t trust a damn thing right wing propagandists say about anything. Ditto Donald Trump. He’s a congenital liar, bent on seizing control and exacting vengeance. All that’s required to understand that is to listen to him.

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I support Democrats because I support much of what they do and stand for.

Hmmm… open borders, crime, pedophilia, socialism, fascism, totalitarianism, war, censorship, political violence, political prisoners, propaganda… yeah, that’s something to get behind, alright.

That makes the choice easy. Anybody but Trump.

Anybody but someone that will put the United States and Constitution before everything else. There. Corrected that for you.

Why can’t you state if Putin is smart or not?

You incessantly claim Biden is a pedophile only because Trump hung out with one for years. Trump was well known for his repeated invasions of teen beauty pageant dressing rooms. It’s a well known fact that pedophiles are usually disguised as conservative authority figures. Typically, you project that problem onto people who don’t share your political views—which, by the way, include the disempowerment of women.

You incessantly claim Biden is a pedophile only because Trump hung out with one for years.

Well, as usual, you are lying. No Trump didn’t. But, I point out that Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden is a pedophile because, in addition to him constantly, relentlessly harassing young boys and girls, his own daughter writes that he forced her to shower with him and sexually abused her. So, there’s that.

It’s proven that leftists want to make pedophilia legal and acceptable. It’s also proven that everything the left is involved in, the blame everyone else of to try and divert attention away from their corruption/failure/degeneracy/crimes.

Under Trump’s economy, unemployment for women was the lowest in history and Trump had women in a wide variety of high-profile positions. Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden just rapes them.

biden showered with his adolescent daughter repeatedly.

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Donnie and Jeff

Where’s your other hand, Jeff? Melania knows. You can tell by her face. Epstein looks like that cat that ate the canary.

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You’re getting kind of desperate. People craved to be photographed with Trump. Trump kicked Epstein out of his resorts permanently. He wasn’t a fellow sexual predator like the Clinton’s, Obama, Michelle, the Biden’s and the rest of the Democrats. You think if Trump’s name was on Epstein’s client list it would be kept secret? You are pathetic.

Is Putin smart?

Desperate? You’ve been posting your “Biden is a pedophile” trash since Trump got his ass kicked in 2020. It’s all about desperation to distract from what Trump says, does, is, and would become if he gets a chance.

Forcing your young daughter to shower with you and sexually abusing her (per her narrative) kind of makes you a pedophile. True, that is truly trashy behavior, but that’s what you support.

To date, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden the confirmed corrupt, treasonous pedophile, has NEVER won a Presidential election. NEVER.

Without Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden’s stupid leftist policies, there would have been no war. Without election fraud, there would have been no war because there would have been no Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden. He thought just because he was on Putin’s payroll, Putin wouldn’t put him on the spot.

You are even too gutless to answer if Putin is smart or not.

13 million people live in Moscow Greg wants to make it into a glass parking lot vaporize hundreds of years of development, them with a MAD system in place with hypersonic missiles. Hell we cant stop our ships from colliding with todays woke military and crap training. You know damn well Russia would cut off the head of the snake. Europe would wet its panties and learn Russian.

zelensky channeling his Nazi heritage. Hitler forced the elderly and the youth to fight his lost war in late 1944 and into 1945.

“When Vladimir Putin marches into a NATO country, they will rue the day they decided to play politics with the future of Ukraine’s security.”  ~Sen. Christopher S. Murphy of Connecticut, 12/05/23~

No they won’t. They support a man for president who would abandon Ukraine to Vladimir Putin in a heartbeat, and who would just as readily abandon a NATO nation to the son-of-a-bitch.

Not if Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden, the corrupt traitor pedophile, is still in office. He’ll just call it a “minor incursion” and go back to counting his bribes.

NEVER would have happened under Trump. Never.

12/06/23 – Republicans Block Aid to Ukraine, Jeopardizing Its Fight Against Russia

Republicans on Wednesday blocked an emergency spending bill to fund the war in Ukraine, demanding strict new border restrictions in exchange and severely jeopardizing President Biden’s push to replenish the war chests of American allies before the end of the year.

The failed vote highlighted waning support in the United States for continuing to fund Ukraine’s war effort at a perilous time in the conflict, with Kyiv’s counteroffensive failing to meet its objectives and Russia’s forces on the offensive. While the bill faltered over an unrelated immigration policy dispute, the resistance it has met in Congress reflects a dwindling appetite among Republicans for backing Ukraine, as polls show that Americans are losing interest in providing financial assistance.

In the Senate, the vote to move forward on the bill was 49 to 51, short of the 60-vote threshold needed to advance.

Republicans held ranks against the $111 billion bill, which would provide about $50 billion in security assistance to Ukraine, more for economic and humanitarian aid, and another $14 billion toward arming Israel in its war against Hamas. They voted no despite a series of last-ditch appeals from Democrats and an appeal by Mr. Biden, who said he was prepared to offer “significant compromises” on the border and scolded them for abandoning Ukraine in its hour of need.

“Make no mistake: Today’s vote’s going to be long remembered, and history is going to judge harshly those who turned their backs on freedom’s cause,” Mr. Biden said on Wednesday at the White House, just hours before the vote. He said Republicans were “willing to literally kneecap Ukraine on the battlefield and damage our national security in the process.”

The demise of the legislation in the Senate meant that Ukraine was exceedingly unlikely to be able to secure the additional American aid before the end of the year — and possibly beyond. White House and Ukrainian officials have been sounding alarms in recent days, telling lawmakers that without an influx of weapons, Kyiv will run out of resources to defend against Russia’s invading army by the end of the year…

The GOP is enabling a Russian dictator, and enabling a man who will try to become a dictator here.

Keep in mind, if Trump was in office, there’d be no war in Ukraine. Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden fully enabled Putin to invade Ukraine, then he withheld the equipment Ukraine could have used to push back the invasion. What is truly sad is that the GOP has to FORCE Democrats to prioritize our own national security. Securing the border shouldn’t even be an issue; Trump HAD it secure, but Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden intentionally opened it up to Chinese, Iranian, Afghan, Syrian and Venezuelan terrorists.

12/09/23 – State Department circumvents Congress, approves $106 million sale of tank ammo to Israel

Going around Congress, the Biden administration said Saturday it has approved the emergency sale to Israel of nearly 14,000 rounds of tank ammunition worth more than $106 million as Israel intensifies its military operations in the southern Gaza Strip.

The move comes as President Biden’s request for a nearly $106 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and other national security is languishing in Congress, caught up in a debate over U.S. immigration policy and border security. Some Democratic lawmakers have spoken of making the proposed $14.3 billion in American assistance to its Mideast ally contingent on concrete steps by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to reduce civilian casualties in Gaza during the war with Hamas.

The State Department said it had notified Congress of the sale late Friday after Secretary of State Antony Blinken determined “an emergency exists that requires the immediate sale” of the munitions in the U.S. national security interest.

That means the purchase will bypass the congressional review requirement for foreign military sales. Such determinations are rare, but not unprecedented when administrations see an urgent need for weapons to be delivered without waiting for lawmakers’ approval…

Hmm… sounds kind of dictatorial. But, what would anyone expect from a d!ck?

It sounds like Biden has Israel’s back, despite MAGA republicans holding military aid to Israel hostage.

Maybe they’ll be content to turn Ukraine over to Trump’s buddy Putin.

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It sounds like Biden has Israel’s back, despite MAGA republicans holding military aid to Israel hostage.

a) the Republicans are including money for our own border, the border that Biden has throw wide open to almost 10,000,000 (mostly military aged men) illegal aliens. Biden (Jake Sullivan) doesn’t want to do that so the left wing press is misrepresenting what is actually happening.

And Biden, just like Obama, doesn’t have Israel’s back. He is spreading his ass checks for the mullahs of Iran.

Wouldn’t it be great if Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden had OUR back? Why is it necessary to force border security on Democrats when over 6 million have illegally crossed, including terrorists and criminals? Democrats are utterly disgusting and treasonous.

Republicans held ranks against the $111 billion bill, which would provide about $50 billion in security assistance to Ukraine, more for economic and humanitarian aid, and another $14 billion toward arming Israel in its war against Hamas. 


And how much to protect us against the wide open border where Biden has purposefully allowed almost 10 million illegals to walk right in. Not to mention some illegals are given cell phones, airfare to the destination of their choice and a $5,000.00 Visa debit card.

But being the piece of crap you are, you care less about the country you say you live in than you do about a crooked grifter who is demanding our money to pay for the war he started when he refused to keep his promise and honor the Minsk II agreement.

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Illegal immigrants aren’t crossing our border in tanks and reducing towns and villages to rubble with rockets and artillery. Apparently the distinction is lost on idiots.

Did the September 11th terrorists use tanks, you ignorant, stupid, blind, deaf, dumb, ill-informed, fascist moron?

Not to mention some illegals are given cell phones, airfare to the destination of their choice and a $5,000.00 Visa debit card.

Only in conspiracy-addled brains did that happen.

Keep that willful ignorance strong, scooter.

Just congressional testimony Mikey but you dont watch that just wait for your TV to tell you so.
12,000 crossing in a single day also just conspiracy.
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Tell that to my friends who are Border Patrol, groomer. You are the most clueless idiot to ever soil the pages of this forum.

12/06/23 – US charges Russian soldiers with war crimes against an American in Ukraine

Four Russian soldiers have been charged with war crimes against an American who was living in Ukraine during the Russian invasion, according to a historic indictment unsealed Wednesday in federal court in Virginia.

The case against the Russian soldiers marks the first time the US government has used a decades-old law aimed to prosecute those who commit war crimes against American citizens.

The four Russian soldiers – identified as Suren Seiranovich Mkrtchyan, Dmitry Budnik, V Alerii Lnu and Nazar Lnu – have been charged with four counts, including unlawful confinement, conspiracy to commit war crimes, inhuman treatment and torture.

Attorney General Merrick Garland called the charges “an important step towards accountability for the illegal war in Ukraine.”

While he was being illegally held by the Russian soldiers, the American was allegedly tortured by the four defendants and other unnamed co-defendants during at least two interrogation sessions. They stripped him naked, severely beat him and photographed him, according to the indictment.

Two of the defendants accused of war crimes against an American in Ukraine were commanding officers of the Russian Armed Forces, while the other two were lower-ranking members in the Russian army, according to the indictment unsealed Wednesday.

The indictment says the American was not fighting in the war and was a protected person under the Geneva Convention of 1949. The American was not named in the indictment…

Like Mueller’s sham indictment of Russians, just where do you think this is going to go? How many performances of this theater are there a day? Will it make it on Broadway?

Sending depleted uranium rounds doesnt exactly make us the good guys does it.

Not in Vladimir Putin’s view—but he’s an evil bastard. Depleted uranium rounds are very effective one-hit tank killers. Putin could avoid this by getting his f*cking tanks out of Ukraine.

Sending depleted uranium rounds doesnt exactly make us the good guys does it.

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