Pensions of disabled veterans are cut so we could give unauthorized welfare to illegals and study duck penises

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And so hookers in Nevada could get tax exemptions.

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A final effort by Senate Republicans to halt cuts to pensions of military retirees failed late Tuesday, after Democrats blocked an amendment to the controversial budget bill.

The two-year budget agreement, which cleared a key test vote earlier in the day, was expected to get a final vote no later than Wednesday.

Ahead of the final vote, Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., tried unsuccessfully to use a parliamentary tactic to force a vote on the amendment, which he wrote to undo the cuts for military retirees.

A provision in the already House-passed bill would cut retirement benefits for military retirees by $6 billion over 10 years.

Sessions wanted to instead eliminate an estimated $4.2 billion in annual spending by reining in an IRS credit that illegal immigrants have claimed.

He and fellow senators argued the bill unfairly sticks veterans and other military retirees with the cost of new spending.

“It’s not correct, and it should not happen,” Sessions said on the floor.

“By blocking my amendment, they voted to cut pensions for wounded warriors,” he said afterwards. “Senators in this chamber have many valid ideas for replacing these pension cuts, including my proposal to close the tax welfare loophole for illegal filers, and all deserved a fair and open hearing. But they were denied.”

Sessions’ office claimed the vote Tuesday to block the amendment was a vote to “cut military pensions instead of cutting welfare for illegal immigrants.”

Disabled vets are not spared either.

There is, however, money enough to study duck penises, provide “lifestyle lessons” for Senate staffers and more:

•$10 million for National Guard advertising tie-ins with the “Soldier of Steel” movie, despite budget cuts reducing the Guard’s strength by 8,000 soldiers.
•$7 billion for the Pentagon to destroy vehicles and other military equipment used in wars in the Middle East rather than sell or ship the items home.
•$17.5 million for special tax exemptions for Nevada brothels, including tax deductions for groceries, wages for prostitutes, rent and utilities.
•Nearly $1 million since 2010 for the National Endowment of Humanities “Popular Romance Project,” which studies romance novels, films, comics and Internet fan fiction.
•$630,000 spent by the State Department to buy followers on its Facebook and Twitter accounts.
•$325,525 for a National Institutes of Health study that found wives would be happier if they could calm down faster during arguments with their husbands.
•$150,000 to support the Puppets Take Long Island festival in Sag Harbor.

The cuts would save $6 billion over ten years. Unauthorized illegal aliens receive $4 billion in tax credits every year.

Senate Republicans tried to block the bill, but democrats stood with the illegals over the veterans.

Member of Congress and civilians employed by the government are not affected.

Congress is cutting the pensions of those who served our country so that illegal aliens would not have to do with a little less. The world is going to hell.

I think this is absolutely outrageous. What do you think?

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Joe: Didn’t see anything in your links that say it was Ryan’s idea, only that the bill drafted by him and Murray contained it and the Repubs passed it. No proof that it was Ryan that came up with the idea or that he ‘pushed’ it on Murray.

I, as you, feel that basically the big money men in the world, control the world, and always have. That’s not going to change. Obama, and all recent presidents have been their tools, they let the parties alternate to keep the electorate thinking they can change things, ‘if only they can get their guy in there’. What’s in it for the current puppet in the White House? He gets fooled into thinking that when the countries are all socialist (dependent on the rich people) that he will be allowed to be a member of ‘the rich people’. He’s gonna have to increase his worth considerably to become a ‘rich guy’ by their standards. But, he’s the useful idiot at the moment. We’re not going to be changing the system anytime soon.

I’m not here to defend either side. The link I provided showed that Paul Ryan and his committee changed the Bill two days before they voted on it. And when he was questioned if the House of Representatives were notified of the change, he merely stated that the information was available on his website. Even so, the fact that Murray approved of this was enough to prove to me that both sides decided to punish Veterans and Retirees….and I know the reasons why. But my tin-foil hat is inspiring me not to share that on here… :o)

The F-22 and F-35 was a very expensive disaster, and they are going to force Veterans and Retirees to fork up the bill. Their rationality is that we are still young and healthy enough to find supplemental income to help cover the increasing cost of living. Sadly, young troops need to be informed about this so that they may decide if remaining in active duty is worth it or not.

I find it ironic that Congressional Representatives have no qualms about their 80% percent retirement plans for only serving four years in office; not to mention their EXPENSIVE free medical care plans (four to choose from) that they get for life. Just ask Dick Chaney who has had more than one heart surgeries. I wonder who he killed to acquire his heart.

Case in point. The Government is a service FOR THE PEOPLE, but they are using the people for THEIR SERVICE. This is highly unconstitutional and their close ties with the Federal Reserve and the Global Banks (Rothschild / Rockefeller / Morgan) should land all of them in prison for life.

It’s time for new people-based governing. Iceland set itself free and their economy is actually doing much better than ours. Instead of bailing out the banks, they should have bailed out our (common people) debts, thereby increasing our spending power, and thus generate increased GDP and jobs. But nooooo….the mega-rich who consider all of us to be “useless eaters” want to control us and keep us in debt. F*CK THEM!

@Joe:

*Laughs* So I assume you have the facts to disprove my post.

Joe, I’m gonna let you in on a little secret. Your opinion can’t be disproved. and that’s basically what your comment was: opinion.

As I’m sure you already know, facts end all debate and discussion.

While that may be true, it depends upon there being some ‘facts’ that you’ve presented. Which you haven’t. Your opinion that LHO didn’t shoot at JFK, while I agree that’s probably true, I can’t state it for a ‘fact’ and neither can you.
Now I am overwhelmed by this fact:

And trust me, I’ve caught the NSA (or some other government agency)

or somebody. So it’s a fact that it was the NSA, or some other government agency or some other non-gov agency or someone else. Wow, that is a powerful fact there Joe.

I personally believe that Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Chaney (along with the Bush Administration) orchestrated the attacks in 911. I won’t get into the details on here, but they were trying to destroy records of stolen money from the Department of Defense.

I think you may be onto something here. It is a fact that it was either them, or someone else. Maybe even khalid sheik muhammad or some other al qaeda or somebody. It is safe to say that somebody definitely planned it, maybe. I’m concerned as to whether they acheived their objective of destroying the records of the stolen money from the defense dept?

I believe all of the House and Senate should be arrested and placed on trail

Would that be the Oregon Trail, or the Chisholm Trail, or some other trail, or something?

the GOP mostly voted “no”, while most Democrats voted “yes”. The Democrats have a history of cutting the defense budget, but that’s to force the DoD’s hand into reducing wasteful contracts.

Sooo, you’re saying you’re a Dimocrat? One of the ‘good’ guys?

As for my tin-foil hat, this crazy old mad happens to have several college degrees garnering a 3.96 GPA.

Obviously none of which included you having the ability to spell.

Are you really smrstrauss in disguise? You sound just like him.

@Joe:

The link I provided showed that Paul Ryan and his committee changed the Bill two days before they voted on it. And when he was questioned if the House of Representatives were notified of the change, he merely stated that the information was available on his website. Even so, the fact that Murray approved of this was enough to prove to me that both sides decided to punish Veterans and Retirees

Not true Joe, your statement of ‘fact’ was that it was Ryan that put the change in there, now you’re claiming it was the committee.. It can’t be both ways.

The F-22 and F-35 was a very expensive disaster,

everything I’ve read says they are two of the best planes ever built. Not worth arguing over tho.

Their rationality is that we are still young and healthy enough to find supplemental income to help cover the increasing cost of living.

So are you a retired young vet that may be affected by the Cola adjustments?

Sadly, young troops need to be informed about this so that they may decide if remaining in active duty is worth it or not.

The COLA adjustments have never been guaranteed, and will not be in the future. It should not now and never have been included in a vet’s thinking about whether to serve or not.

I wonder who he killed to acquire his heart.

I heard his father died and donated him his heart so he didn’t actually have to kill anyone.

Iceland set itself free and their economy is actually doing much better than ours.

Drop us a note after you’ve lived there a couple years and let us know if it is really much better living there or not. But beware of all the millions of immigrants that will be moving there with you. Joe, since you seem to have all the answers, I’m sure you’ve positioned yourself well, taking all this advantage you have in knowledge of how the banks all work, etc so that you won’t be adversely affected at all.

smrstrauss?

Joe
you gave many good things, some make sense about the troops being short change, which is awfull,
but I don’t believe
the PRESIDENT BUSH WAS ONTO THE 9/11,
and I also notice a liberal leaning in your comment,
which sound suspicious to me of your intent to demonize a bit of DEMOCRAT
to keep a balance you want it to cover your leaning
and much heavyer on demonizing the REPUBLICAN AND GOP, YOU REALLY PIN THEM
FOR DAMAGE DEMOLITION TO MAKE THEM THE VILAINS,
THAT’S WHAT I TAKE,
ALTHOUGH I FOUND IT INTERESTING TO READ ALL YOUR POINTS
AND OPINIONS AND DEDUCTIONS, IT’S ALL YOUR OPINION AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE,
I STILL WONDER WHY YOU CAME TO TELL US ALL THIS FOR,
WAS IT TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD NOT SUSPECT IN SO MANY LINES YOUR LIBERAL LEANING,
AND YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF PRESIDENT BUSH AND RUMSFEL AND CHENY ALL TIDY UP IN
BETWEEN THOSE SENTENCES,
BYE

@Joe:
I hope this gets through okay because the people we voted in office sure are doing a rotten job of screwing up our country. I never voted for Obama because he is a Muslim & I knew he’d destroy our country. But our Congressman, Senators, Assemblymen should be able to vote him down when they know he is wrong – allowing all those illegal aliens into our country to use up our funds for our veterans and to help him get elected. Obama needs to go ALONG WITH THE ALIENS BACK WHERE THEY ALL CAME FROM before he destroys us all. Please GOD SAVE US BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE. Mean time he & his family will be enjoying his Hawaiian vacation at our expense.

@Joe:
I hope this gets through okay because the people we voted in office sure are doing a rotten job of screwing up our country. I never voted for Obama because he is a Muslim & I knew he’d destroy our country. But our Congressman, Senators, Assemblymen should be able to vote him down when they know he is wrong – allowing all those illegal aliens into our country to use up our funds for our veterans and to help him get elected. Obama needs to go ALONG WITH THE ALIENS BACK WHERE THEY ALL CAME FROM before he destroys us all. Please GOD SAVE US BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE. Mean time he & his family will be enjoying his Hawaiian vacation at our expense.

Doris E. Morlachetta
HI,
YOU SAID IT BETTER THAN ANYONE,
BEST TO YOU IN THIS CHRISMAS TIME OF REJOYCING,

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>*Laughs* So I assume you have the facts to disprove my post.

Joe, I’m gonna let you in on a little secret. Your opinion can’t be disproved. and that’s basically what your comment was: opinion.

An opinion is an idea based on baseless information. What I provided about Paul Ryan was fact taken from the information from the link I provided. It is a fact that he and his committee made the changes to the bill 2 days before they voted on it. Even so, if you read my post, you will have noted that I stated the Democrats apparently approved of it; namely Murray. I’m not here to choose sides; I do not support Republicans nor Democrats. The Bill was changed, and the House voted unanimously for the Bill. So both sides are to blame.

As I’m sure you already know, facts end all debate and discussion.

While that may be true, it depends upon there being some ‘facts’ that you’ve presented. Which you haven’t. Your opinion that LHO didn’t shoot at JFK, while I agree that’s probably true, I can’t state it for a ‘fact’ and neither can you.

It is a fact that LHO was behind Kennedy and the bullet clearly went into his brain from the front right temple. Roughly 17 doctors who performed the initial autopsy all stated that the back of his head had a huge hole. But the body was taken to Batehsda Naval Hospital, and the autopsy that was performed there were from Officers who were not even Doctors.

It is a fact that the Warren commission claimed there were only three shots fired by LHO in roughly 5 to 7 seconds. This is impossible to do using an old Italian Rifle, more than 100 yards away on a moving target.

It is a fact that a bullet cannot go through the rear of a skull without leaving a huge hole on the front of the skull, exist the skull, turn right and strike the passenger on the front seat into his arm, exit the wrist and strike a final target with a bullet that had absolutely no damage. This is physically impossible and has never been done in history.

It is a fact that the Warren Commission did not account for several other shots that injured a man standing under the bridge, nor the bullet hole in the windshield that was replaced the very next day. Subsequently, it is a fact that this is not standard investigative protocol to mess with the crime scene as they have done. The CIA sent the car to a glass repair center where the windshield was replaced. Now why would they do this?

It is a fact that President Kennedy’s brain was removed and destroyed, and was never even mentioned by the Warren Commission.

It is a fact that one of the shooters admitted he took part in what was called, ‘The Big Show” on his death bed, and this is recorded on audio tape.

It is a fact that 19 news reports all died of strange deaths 5 years after the incident; some by throat being slit, others by suspicious car accidents, others by poisoning, and some by cancer.

The list goes on..and on…and on.

Opinion? Or Fact? You be the judge. But what I do know without a doubt is that LHO could not have fired three shots, and only one of which is claimed to have killed Kennedy and injured the Governor in the front seat, and all with a bullet that had no damage, scratches, or marks. This is scientifically impossible.

Fact? Or opinion?

Now I am overwhelmed by this fact:

And trust me, I’ve caught the NSA (or some other government agency)

or somebody. So it’s a fact that it was the NSA, or some other government agency or some other non-gov agency or someone else. Wow, that is a powerful fact there Joe.

I cannot reveal my methods of tracking IP Addresses, but while it is certainly possible a non-government agency hacked my computer several times. But if that’s the case, then we’ve got the weakest intelligence agency network in history. The first attack revealed an IP Address that originated out of Langley, VA. This is the location of the CIA school for hacker training. After catching them the first time, they started using rogue telecommunications networks. When you trace the IP Address, the trace leads you to a fake website. In two different cases, the fake websites were a fake Google site (this was reported on the News), fake Norton website, a fake Facebook website, and a fake Kaspersky website. On other occasions, (three thus far), the IP Addresses were traced to Washington D.C.

So if a foreign hacker managed to infiltrate our very tight security network systems which are government managed, then our government IT employees are not very good employees. And if that’s the case, why would a Chinese government want to hack the governments computer just to get to me? *laughs* I’m sorry my friend, but it just doesn’t work like that. Besides, Edward Snowden revealed what many of us already suspected, and prior to his revelation, all like me were called, “Conspiracy Theorists”. Thankfully, many Americans are beginning to awaken from their sleep and see the truth of how corrupt our government has become and what their hidden agenda are. Population control (H1N1 Virus, HIV, Swine Flu, etc) sponsored by the Rockefeller and Rothschild foundations (and a few more).

I personally believe that Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Chaney (along with the Bush Administration) orchestrated the attacks in 911. I won’t get into the details on here, but they were trying to destroy records of stolen money from the Department of Defense.

I think you may be onto something here. It is a fact that it was either them, or someone else. Maybe even khalid sheik muhammad or some other al qaeda or somebody. It is safe to say that somebody definitely planned it, maybe. I’m concerned as to whether they acheived their objective of destroying the records of the stolen money from the defense dept?

Word is getting out that Al-Qaeda is actually managed by the CIA. A famous news reporter came home from Afganistan to report this, but was mysteriously killed in a fatal car crash early in the morning at high speeds; his car slammed into the tree. There’s enough suspicion to believe that he was murdered by the CIA. How? I do not know. But he sent an email to his partner explaining that the CIA is running Al-Qaeda, and I’m beginning to believe it. It would certainly explain the events of 911.

With regards to 911, why did Dick Chaney order a Stand-Down when the fighter jets scrambled to investigate the two hijacked planes? 22 minutes later, both planes slammed into the WTC.

Why did the FBI hide 17 videos of the Pentegon supposedly struck by a plane? And why is the only video that was released so vague that only five still frames were shown, and no plane appears to have hit the Pentagon? More importantly, I find it interesting that the section of the Pentagon that was totally destroyed contained computer documents (and paper) pertaining to the missing money. And lastly, I find it interesting that the 911 Commission failed to mention the radio communication between Dick Chaney and an unknown pilot roughly 10 minutes before the so-called plane strikes the Pentagon? The radio communication as provided by a witness (who was also rejected from the 911 Commission), “DO I HAVE PERMISSION TO PROCEED?”, and Dick Chaney responds, “YOU MAY PROCEED!” 10 minutes later, BAM!

A survivor of the Pentagon attack reveals to Jesse Ventura that during the fire, when she left, she saw no plane debris anywhere.

The 911 Commission reports that the four black boxes from the two jets that smashed into the WTC were never recovered. But two key witnesses part of the clean-up crew both reported that at least three of the boxes were recovered. Why did the FBI lie about this when this has never happened in American history (non-recoverable black boxes)?

Another witness stated that one of the black boxes revealed that an Arabic Pilot was talking to the ground crew prior to take-off. Why was this not revealed by the 911 Commission?

All of this smells exactly like a “False Flag” operation conducted by the CIA. This is the same thing that happened to JFK.

I believe all of the House and Senate should be arrested and placed on trail

Would that be the Oregon Trail, or the Chisholm Trail, or some other trail, or something?

Hmmm? Not sure what to think about this. But I’ve seen evidence of political leaders committing treason against the American people. A friend of mine actually confronted John McCain and Joe Beiden about the corruption taking place within the Veterans Administration, and how the Department of Defense is branding military retirees or seperatee’s with a SPD code and an RE code. While the generic definitions of these codes are available on line, it is the undisclosed copy of a members DDForm 214 that contains a complete narrative instead of simple Alpha-Numeric codes. These narratives are used to destroy a Veterans career, prevent he/she from acquiring sufficient work, and in some cases ruins their credit. I was personally branded with a fake code that read, “Member extremely hostile and possesses intent to use firearms” when the copy I possessed did not contain a code matching this narrative. I can’t reveal how I acquired this information, but when ever a member separates from military service, if you are not part of the good-old-boy club, a high ranking officer from the Military Personnel Flight or Unit can order a brand be placed on the member, whether good or bad. This is unconstitutional and illegal. As Federal law states that no branding of any kind (good or bad) is permitted. In the late 1970’s, the Courts ordered the DoD to stop using these codes (formerly called SPN codes). So the DoD simply changed its title to SPD codes. These codes are used to deny a Veterans right for disability compensation, make it impossible to acquire a job, ruin his/her credit, and many other negative side effects. The intent of course is to force them into isolation to perhaps commit suicide, or commit a crime to be arrested and put away. This battle is still going on today.

the GOP mostly voted “no”, while most Democrats voted “yes”. The Democrats have a history of cutting the defense budget, but that’s to force the DoD’s hand into reducing wasteful contracts.

Sooo, you’re saying you’re a Dimocrat? One of the ‘good’ guys?

No, I’ve been a Conservative Republican for more than 20 years. After learning of their huge support for bankers and corporations, I jumped ship and began voting Democratic. However, after learning of their corruption as well (also supporting banks and the Rockefeller foundations), and decided to go green-party. Thus I wanted to vote for Ron Paul this last election, but he was knocked out by that idiot Mitt Romney; another bank conspirator and corporate partner who screwed over thousands of American employees. This past year, I’ve come to the conclusion that our government is very tired and needs to be overhauled with true servants of the people. This is something that has been forgotten by the American people. We are sovereign and outrank any government official. It is use who say Yes or No, and if our elected officials fail to do their job according to the majority, then they should be forced into stepping down.

As for my tin-foil hat, this crazy old mad happens to have several college degrees garnering a 3.96 GPA.

Obviously none of which included you having the ability to spell.

Spell? Oh, I’m sorry. Tinfoil….is this better? *laughs* Surely you could have done better my friend. And sarcasm is a sign of weakness.

Are you really smrstrauss in disguise? You sound just like him.

Of course not my friend. My discussions are fluid, logical, although not without error. And like most people who blog, we don’t exactly proof-read every submission. However, after this post, I vow to proof-read all of my posts before submitting so as not to offend you. :o) Notice how I did not respond in anger or sarcasm? I enjoy these discussions; don’t let them become a bother to you.

@Doris E. Morlachetta:

Mean time he & his family will be enjoying his Hawaiian vacation at our expense.

Yes, Obama’s vacations for just one year would take care of those vets pensions he wants to eliminate.

The link I provided showed that Paul Ryan and his committee changed the Bill two days before they voted on it. And when he was questioned if the House of Representatives were notified of the change, he merely stated that the information was available on his website. Even so, the fact that Murray approved of this was enough to prove to me that both sides decided to punish Veterans and Retirees

Not true Joe, your statement of ‘fact’ was that it was Ryan that put the change in there, now you’re claiming it was the committee.. It can’t be both ways.

Perhaps my statement was too specific. So please allow me to correct myself. Once again, it was Paul Ryan AND his committee that made the changes to the Bill 2 days before the vote. Now either the House voted on this Bill without being aware of the change, or it was a last minute error that Paul Ryan and his committee identified and corrected with House Support. Even so, and no matter how you view it, there was a change by a Republican, and a vote of “yes” by both Republicans AND Democrats. Hence as I stated, “Both sides are guilty”.

The F-22 and F-35 was a very expensive disaster,

everything I’ve read says they are two of the best planes ever built. Not worth arguing over tho.

I’ve worked aircraft for over 20 years. And while these two aircraft are awesome (I’ve personally seen their flight attributes), they are terrible aircraft to be used in combat. For one, the F-22 has a serious problem with its oxygen generation system. A few pilots have died from asphyxiation due to engine contamination seeping into the life support systems. Based on what I can tell, the oxygen generation system is driven by the engines compression exhaust. But why some pilots are showing coolant contamination is strange, to say the least. This is a serious design flaw that cannot be repaired by the Air Force. Only the Engineers can do this, and based on what I’ve learned so far, they Air Force doesn’t know how to fix this problem. This is part of the reason why the F-22 program has been scrapped.

As for the F-35, it’s supersonic speeds are slower than the older F-16 (my favorite fighter jet). Pilots are also complaining about its lack of rear and side peripheral vision.

While both fighters are advanced in many ways, neither could really be used on true air-to-ground combat. For one, neither aircraft can carry massive loads as the F-15 and F-16 are capable of doing. And let’s not forget the famous A-10 War Hog. The A-10 proved itself very valuable during the gulf war, and there’s talk of upgrading the A-10’s and returning them to service.

Their rationality is that we are still young and healthy enough to find supplemental income to help cover the increasing cost of living.

So are you a retired young vet that may be affected by the Cola adjustments?

I suppose I’m young to some extent, if you consider 45 years of age to be young. I’m a 100% percent disabled Veteran with multiple injuries. The most serious injury was colon-rectal cancer from radiation exposure during the war in Iraq. Fortunately, I managed to survive and beat cancer. Unfortunately, I have a permanent colostomy that even after 11 years, still bothers me every day of my life. I also have a completely fused right ankle to a motor vehicle accident, and severe arthritis on nearly all of my joints. While working is still possible physically (although extremely limited), my colostomy has continued to be a serious problem within the work force. Many are uncomfortable working near someone with a colostomy. I’ve had people tell me I smelled (can’t help it), and I’ve had people who refused to shake my hand. Thus, I’m forced into living with a fixed income which is sufficient for the time being. But as the Bankers and Wallstreet continue to raise the cost of food and fuel, overtime my income will not be sufficient.

Sadly, young troops need to be informed about this so that they may decide if remaining in active duty is worth it or not.

The COLA adjustments have never been guaranteed, and will not be in the future. It should not now and never have been included in a vet’s thinking about whether to serve or not.

And why is that? Have you ever served in the Armed Forces? Should a guardsmen not feel comfortable knowing that he/she would be taken care if injured? Should a police officer or firemen not be compensated adequately for their service? If a military member knew that he would not be taken care of should he suffer injury, who would want to join? One thing that really offends me is the lack of appreciation from certain people who expect military service men and women to offer their sacrifices nearly free of charge. Well, that’s total BS! I signed up knowing and believing that I would be taken care of. Of course I did not know about VA compensation until my cancer. But even so, I would never want another person to risk his/her life for my sake and not be compensated. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself. I hope you aren’t one of those people who spits on a Veterans face, or looks upon them in contempt as though an injured Veterans is his/her own problem.

I wonder who he killed to acquire his heart.

I heard his father died and donated him his heart so he didn’t actually have to kill anyone.

I was actually being facetious with the Cheney-heart comment. But even so, the tax payers paid for it. So why should he be entitled to a higher level of free health care than a retired veteran? He’s a servant as members of the armed forces are servants. Since when is an elected official entitled to a higher standard of living? This is unconstitutional and our forefathers never intended the government to become a place of wealth gathering, societal exploitation and corrupt private enterprise.

Iceland set itself free and their economy is actually doing much better than ours.

Drop us a note after you’ve lived there a couple years and let us know if it is really much better living there or not. But beware of all the millions of immigrants that will be moving there with you. Joe, since you seem to have all the answers, I’m sure you’ve positioned yourself well, taking all this advantage you have in knowledge of how the banks all work, etc so that you won’t be adversely affected at all. smrstrauss?

*laughs* Well I’ll not respond unkindly as you appear to be doing. But let me just say that running from a corrupt government is never a solution. I’m a Veteran and I don’t run from people who hide behind the corruptions of the CIA, FBI and other federal organizations. But this doesn’t mean that my mode of war is with weapons that kill. I exercise my freedom of speech, and if this means my death, then so be it. While none of us want to die, but I will do all that I can to inform the American people of the corruption which exists within our government, the banks, and corporations.

Speaking of corporations, it is totally un-American to fire American employees, and engage in slavery within China. Any business owner who uses Chinese slave-workers for the sole purpose of profit is nothing more than sinful exploitation of humanity. If our government wants people to work, then the top 1% percent must stop trying to suck 60% percent of America’s total wealth into their stock portfolio’s. America’s economy can only survive with American workers. But American’s cannot rely on McDonalds, Wal-Mart and other service related jobs for a living. We need more industrial work so that school kids may once again fill the positions at fast-food restaurants. Unfortunately, I believe the Geldeberg groups and the Illuminati have an agenda of hurting the American dollar and riving us into another recession; the same thing they did in the 1920’s after bankers conned President Wilson into signing the Federal Reserve Act.

“Allow me the control of a nations money, and I care not who makes its laws”….Mayer Rothschild 18th century

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I hope this gets through okay because the people we voted in office sure are doing a rotten job of screwing up our country. I never voted for Obama because he is a Muslim & I knew he’d destroy our country. But our Congressman, Senators, Assemblymen should be able to vote him down when they know he is wrong – allowing all those illegal aliens into our country to use up our funds for our veterans and to help him get elected. Obama needs to go ALONG WITH THE ALIENS BACK WHERE THEY ALL CAME FROM before he destroys us all. Please GOD SAVE US BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE. Mean time he & his family will be enjoying his Hawaiian vacation at our expense.

Hi Doris. I understand your concerns, and I too have a great deal of concerns with President Obama. Sadly I voted for him because I refused to let the blood-sucking nature of Mitt Romney enter the office. He would have totally destroyed our economy just as George Bush Junior did. But remember that a President is nothing more than a puppet for the Congress. The real power exists with the Congress, and that’s where our problems are.

Finally, trust me when I say, Obama is NOT a Muslim…far from it. He attends Church like any other American, whether true or false. But the fact that he walks into a Church is more than enough for a true Muslim to cut off his head. Even John McCain rejected the idea of Obama being a Muslim. Too many people assume he’s a Muslim because of his name. My last name is Reeby, and while this name originates from Syria, I’m 100% percent American born, raised and loved (by family anyways). *laughs*

We can all dislike Obama (as I do), but he is not a Muslim. If anything, he is Hawaiian.

God bless.

Joe

I would like to wish you all a Very Merry Christmas (or happy holidays for unbelievers) and a Happy New Year.

God bless everyone.

Joe

@Joe:

It is a fact that he and his committee

No Joe,, it’s a fact that the committee, not he and his, made the changes.

It is a fact that LHO was behind Kennedy

No it’s not a fact. It’s only opinion. There has never been any proof that LHO was anywhere near the snipers nest. All opinion, and not very informed opinion either.
This is not the time or place to discuss the JFK assassination. Most of what you quote as ‘facts’ are clearly only your opinion. I share many of those, but just because I have an opinion on what happened and who was behind it does not make it a ‘fact’. Too many things are being covered up by the government.

I cannot reveal my methods of tracking IP Addresses, but while it is certainly possible a non-government agency hacked my computer several times.

You missed the point Joe,, you said it is a ‘fact’ that the NSA or somebody or somebody else did it. You are very uncertain for someone that is certain.

killed in a fatal car crash early in the morning at high speeds; his car slammed into the tree.

Paul Walker was a CIA agent?

and no plane appears to have hit the Pentagon?

maybe you should re-watch the video of the plane hitting the 2nd tower, I was watching tv live at the moment it happened and there is no question.

And lastly, I find it interesting that the 911 Commission failed to mention

OMG, I’m holding my breath waiting for it to be revealed what other things the 911 commission ‘failed’ to mention. Why did they ‘fail to mention’ what you were doing while all this was going on? Why did they fail to mention that you had hacked into someone’s IP address so you could know what Cheney was doing at the time. I’ll bet there’s lots of other things they ‘failed to mention’.

A survivor of the Pentagon attack reveals to Jesse Ventura

Now I might doubt that information, but if it came from ‘ Jesse Ventura’ it ‘must’ be right.
I said:

Sooo, you’re saying you’re a Dimocrat? One of the ‘good’ guys?

To which you replied:

No, I’ve been a Conservative Republican for more than 20 years. I jumped ship and began voting Democratic.

Huh? You’re a conservative that votes Dimocratic? Nevermind.

Spell? Oh, I’m sorry. Tinfoil….is this better?

I only said that because you had several spelling errors. Trail, anyone? That’s a little unusual for someone with a 3.96 GPA. But it was not me that used the word ‘tinfoil’.

My discussions are fluid, logical, although not without error. And like most people who blog, we don’t exactly proof-read every submission. However, after this post, I vow to proof-read all of my posts before submitting so as not to offend you. 😮 ) Notice how I did not respond in anger or sarcasm? I enjoy these discussions; don’t let them become a bother to you.

Fluid? Logical? LOL. Strange that I share some of your opinions (for example, JFK assassination) but I’m not a believer that the US did 9/11. While the bankers do control many political things in the world, they are sometimes the least of our problems. But that’s been around for at least 200 years and we’re not going to get the money away from the rich guys and re-distribute it to all the folks that are standing around with their hand out. They (the rich guys) didn’t stand around waiting for someone to give them a handout, that’s a losing proposition.
Yes, I notice you did not respond in anger, and I hope you recognized that I replied to some of yours with what I think is humor, because it is hard to take much of it seriously. If they were a bother, I wouldn’t bother.

@Joe:

(or happy holidays for unbelievers)

No, No, No, you can’t do that. You’re playing right into the hands of the Rich guys. That’s what they want you to do, quit worshiping God and start worshiping the dollar. It’s ‘Merry Christmas’

Joe
you vote for OBAMA, because you claim that MITT ROMNEY blood sucking nature, would have destroy this COUNTRY, NONE OF THAT, HE WOULD HAVE BRING UP THIS COUNTRY TO THE LEVEL SHE DISERVE TO BE, WITH BRING IN THE JOBS CREATORS STANDING FOR HIM TO BECOME A PRESIDENT HONORABLE AND DEDICATED TO HAVE THE ECONOMY FLORISH, BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU DID NOT SEE IT, FURTHER THAN THE NOSE IN FRONT OF THE FACE, AND ARE LIKE YOU WHININGLY IN DESPERATION ACCUSING ALL THE REPUBLICAN GOPS TEAPARTY , ON WHAT WENT WRONG BECAUSE OF YOUR LACK OF VISION ON THE CONSEQUENCES YOU SEE AND LIVE BY NOW, ALONG ALL OF THE SAME VOTERS LIKE YOU,
AND VOTE THE OTHER BACK AGAIN , ARE YOU SO VERY PROUD OF THE STANDING OF AMERICA AS YOU FINALLY OPEN YOUR EYES, WHITH A NUMBER OF 3700 ABORTIONS PER DAY
OF AMERICANS FUTURE BABY WANABE BUT DESTROYED BEFORE,BECAUSE OF THE INCENTIVE PUSHING THE MOTHER TO GET RID OF IT, AND HOW DO YOU LIKE THE INDOCTRINATION
OF CHILDREN IN SCHOOL, HOW DO YOU LIKE THE MULTIPLE MORE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES IN GOVERNMENT JOBS NOT NEEDED,
HOW DO YOU LIKE THE IRS TORMENTING THE TAXPAYERS TO HELP ELECT OBAMA,
HOW DO YOU LIKE THE TRIPLING OF POORS IN WELFARE,
BECAUSE NO JOBS AVAILEBLE, ARE YOU FEELING GOOD TO SEE IT AS A NEW NORMAL,WHILE THE ILLEGALS ARE COMMING BY
A NUMBER EXCEDING NOW 11 MILLIONS, AND THE DEGRADATION OF THE PEOPLE ARRESTED AND 10THOUSANDS FELON UNABLE TO SHAKE OF THE LABEL SO TO FIND WORK,
AFTER THEY PAID FOR THEIR ERRORS DEARLY, AND DON’T WANT WELFARE THEY WANT TO WORK, IT IS DENIED TO THEM,
AND SO MUCH TIME WAISTED ON THE RESTAURATION OF AMERICA, DELAYED BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT MITT ROMNEY WAS NOT WORTHY TO TAKE THE HIGHEST SEAT OF THIS AMERICA, TO FIX SO MANY PROBLEMS ,
AND YOU FAILED TO PREVENT THE DISASTER IN EVERY DAY LIVES NOW OF THE PEOPLE,
AND GEORGE BUSH, WHO DID NOT DESTROY THIS COUNTRY, HE WAS CAUGHT INTO A DISASTER DEADLY FOR AMERICA WHICH HE REACT
AS A PROUD AMERICAN PRESIDENT,
WHICH WAS NEEDED TO ANSWER THE ENEMY, HE DID IT WITH HIS LOVE FOR HIS COUNTRY, HE DID NOT CUT THE MILITARY NEED TO DO THE JOB, NO HE GAVE THEM ALL THE TOOLS HE COULD AND THE EXPERTIZE THEY NEEDED,
HE DID NOT MAKE DEAL WITH THE ENEMY,
NOW YOU COME TO DEMONIZE THEM AS BEST YOU CAN,
YOU DON’T HAVE THE CREDIBILITY I WOULD HAVE LIKE TO GIVE YOU,

@Joe:

The Bill was changed, and the House voted unanimously for the Bill.

The vote was not unanimous. The House voted 332 to 94 – among which were 62 Republican “no” votes – to approve the bill, sending it to the Senate for its consideration. The Senate vote for passage was 64-yea to 36-nay.

My discussions are fluid, logical, although not without error.

Your posts have been disjointed and meandering, jumping all over the political spectrum with little rhyme or reason and with only occasional forays in the direction of the main discussion. I suspect Mel Gibson’s Conspiracy Theory might be your favorite movie, as you emulate much of the behavior of his character in the film. Of all the poster’s I’ve read in internet forums, you are one of the most worthy to be bestowed with FA’s Tinfoil Crown. Congratulations.

@Joe:

Once again, it was Paul Ryan AND his committee that made the changes…. Even so, and no matter how you view it, there was a change by a Republican, and a vote of “yes”

you did it again. You concede that ‘they’ made the change, but then you go right back and say it was made ‘by’ a Republican. No. It was ‘they’ that made the changes.

For one, the F-22 has a serious problem with its oxygen generation system.

I would not say that requiring some re-engineering of the oxy gen system hardly qualifies it as a ‘disaster’. Every pilot that has flown one (that didn’t die from the O2 system) has said it is the most amazing aircraft they’ve ever flown.

A-10 War Hog.

that would be the A-10 Wart Hog, spelling Joe.

if you consider 45 years of age to be young. I’m a 100% percent disabled Veteran with multiple injuries. The most serious injury was colon-rectal cancer from radiation exposure during the war in Iraq.

Yes, to me, 45 is young. My children are older than that. Thanks for your service (I’m a vet also, but not a retired vet, just retired)Sorry for your disabilities. Just curious, what was the source of the radiation in Iraq (if you know)? I hadn’t heard of that problem there, but am not surprised.

And why is that? Have you ever served in the Armed Forces? Should a guardsmen not feel comfortable knowing that he/she would be taken care if injured? Should a police officer or firemen not be compensated adequately for their service? If a military member knew that he would not be taken care of should he suffer injury, who would want to join?

You ‘totally’ misunderstood what I said:

The COLA adjustments have never been guaranteed, and will not be in the future. It should not now and never have been included in a vet’s thinking about whether to serve or not.

I am clearly ONLY referring to the COLA and it’s impact. My statement is that is NOT part of the guarantee of retirement benefits, it is based upon budget decisions each year. When I first enlisted, I knew that if I served 20 years, I could retire with a benefit of 50% of my base pay (I don’t recall if BAQ was included or not) and if I stayed 30 years, it would be 75% of base pay. COLA’s were not even invented back then. My intent was that if the difference in whether a COLA is going to be 2% vs 3% is what you are basing your decision on whether to stay in service for 20 years then maybe you shouldn’t stay and get out and find something that ‘guarantees’ you that 1% more. When you are deciding to make a career, you should decide if 50%-75% is going to provide a comfortable retirement. If not, find something that does. Don’t just re-enlist and ‘hope’ they will vote you an extra 1% and then bitch if they don’t. Disability as a result of military services is a no-brainer.

I realized you were being facetious about the heart transplant, so was I in my response

Since when is an elected official entitled to a higher standard of living? This is unconstitutional

He’s not, but it is not mentioned in the constitution.

it is totally un-American to fire American employees, and engage in slavery within China. Any business owner who uses Chinese slave-workers for the sole purpose of profit is nothing more than sinful exploitation of humanity.

I agree completely. But those that abhor slavery here in the US are totally ok with it in China as long as it redistributes the wealth (to the rich people). Too many tax benefits to move business to China instead of doing it here.

JOE
I want you to accept my apology for having been rude on my previous comment,
I KEEP THE SAME OPINION BUT , THE FACT THAT I WAS RUDE TO SAY IT,
DID NOT MAKE ME FEEL GOOD, I should have kept it to myself,
BECAUSE IT’S CHRISMAST TIME, AND WE SHOULD BE AIMING AT GOODWILL INSTEAD,
ESPECIALLY TO A WARRIOR, WHICH I DEFEND AND CARE FOR THEM AND I HAVE THE MOST ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR ALL,
AND YOU INCLUDED,
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISHES PREVIOUSLY,
AND I WISH THE BEST CHRISMAST ALSO TO YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES,
HOPE YOU KEEP UP COMMENTING WITH US, YOU BRING A LOT OF YOUR INTELIGENCE HERE,

Wow! There is too much for me to respond to. *Laughs* So I apologize for cutting the “Cut & Paste” responses to each of the posters on this blog. I’ll try to respond in short on some of the categories mentioned. But first I wanted to again wish all of you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

F-22 Problems:
The F-22 problems are serious. Yes many of the pilots who have flown it remark about its flight characteristics. But the latest report shows that the F-22 is a non-mission-capable aircraft. Here is a quote taken from the 2009 statistics of the F-22:

“Facts: The mission capable (MC) rate has improved from 62% in 2004 to 68% percent in
2009. And it continues to improve, the current MC Rate in the F-22 fleet is 70% fleet
wide.” Source: http://www.hatch.senate.gov/public/_files/F22AssertionsAndFacts.pdf

68% percent mission capable? That’s a terrible rating. The standard for ACC (Air Combat Command) is 85%. And those statistics were taken I 2009. I do not know what the MCR is for 2012, but I’m told that the F-22 is still restricted to less than 22,000 feet due to the ongoing problem with its oxygen system. At $150,000,000 per jet, this is not worth the cost.

The fact remains that while the F-22 possesses awesome flight dynamics, its inability to carry large payloads is not good. Furthermore, the fuselage loses some of its stealth protection when strapping external fuel tanks to the aircraft for long flights over the ocean. The F-35 poses the same radar risk. And speaking of the F-35, it is not mission capable hardly at all. The only reason why the Air Force continues to push for funding on these two very expensive programs is to satisfy the DoD contractors. All I can say is, “Merry Christmas to McDonald Douglas and General Dynamics” for their excessive paychecks in producing terrible aircraft. Unfortunately, because of the methods they followed in designing these aircraft, its no wonder why they are plagued with failure. Past aircraft relied on German and Israeli Engineers. Our Engineers are lacking these days, as China is garnering more Engineers than the United States. If memory serves me correctly, China produces roughly 600,000 Engineers a year, while the United States only produces about 80,000 annually. Why? The American cost of education is too expensive. 6% percent student loan rates is horribly high, which is why I have not yet pushed for my Bachelor’s Degree; my goal is to acquire a Master’s Degree and stop there; I do not desire to pursue a PHD.

Radiation Exposure
I was contaminated with Radiation during the initial stages in the war of Iraq. I cannot reveal the location I was in, but we were there with the host base aircraft. Their idiot maintenance crews were troubleshooting a radar problem on the F-15’s they were buying from the United States. My aircraft (F-16) was parked in front of theirs, and a buddy of mine were both hit when their maintenance crews accidentally turned on the radar. My buddy suffered near fatal wounds, while I was lucky. I grew hot and fatigued in 122 degree heat (dry desert) and walked away for a drink; I nearly passed out. When I returned, I saw that my buddy had been sent to the hospital via Ambulance. He ended up being sent to Germany for surgery; his stomach was severely burned (internal). I didn’t know anything was wrong with me until weeks later when I began bleeding when going to the bathroom. When I returned from my deployment, I scheduled a medical evaluation and it was then they determined I had cancer. Their solution was more radiation exposure and the awful Chemotherapy treatment; this was horrible. I lost more than 30 lbs. But God was definitely keeping me alive as I’ve been in recession ever since then (more than 10 years). Lord willing, I will continue.

Mitt Romney
Mitt Romney would not have done this country a service at all. His motive was to eliminate the capital gains tax, and the dividend tax. Mitt Romney pays “zero” income tax as he does not live on income, but capital gains and dividends. He believed that be eliminating taxes for the so called, “Job Creators”, that more businesses would be inclined to remaining in the United States. This is false and we’ve seen this tried several times before.

Corporations abuse the tax code for their own profits. And instead of investing the additional monies from their tax breaks into the working class, they instead invest that money in other stocks and shares. Thus, the “trickle down” economics theory is a scam, and cannot work without their true support.

Mitt Romney and six of his delegates stole money from Bain Capital (spelling). They took out massive loans on a company that was doing fairly well. Then when they maxed out those loans, they stole the borrowed money and his the funds offshore. They then filed bankruptcy on the company, thereby causing all of Bain Capital’s employees to lose out on their jobs, some of whom worked there for more than 20 years; they also lost their pensions. But Mitt Romney and his delegates kept the funding they stole from the company.

This is the kind of economical thief people want as President? Not a chance my friends….not a chance. And Mitt Romney would have contributed to an already declining economy, all thanks to George Bush Junior who allowed the following to happen:

1. Oil Companies gouging Americans with excessive gasoline and Diesel prices
2. Banks to charge consumers excessive interest rates
3. Students to take on student loan interest rates
4. Bank of America illegally foreclosing on 60,000 homes and not one person went to prison
5. Scammed the military with drawdowns and didn’t say a word, yet boosted funding for the F-22 and F-35 projects.
6. Cut funding to the VA Court of Appeals in order to prolong the appeal process
7. Allowed corporations to bush jobs towards China.
8. Cut taxes for the rich, while didn’t cut a thing for working class citizens.
9. Lied about the weapons of mass destruction using Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld as tools to stage the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is why General Colon Powell later resigned knowing he was forced to lie.
10. Responsible for the deaths of thousands of US troops by sending them to a war that was not necessary.
11. Sided with the global banking system in staging the two wars in order to secure the area and eventually build the natural gas pipeline; this is why they are trying to start a war with Iran; they need Iran in order to build the pipeline.

Did anyone know that Grand Daddy Bush was charged with Treason during WWII for his support of Adolph Hitler? But for some reason, he was pardoned. However, the US Government seized his financial institution once they realized he was selling American steal to Adolph Hitler for the production of his military; this is the very same thing the global banks do. Because the US took his steal business, and he didn’t want to lose his beer business (Busch Beer), he sold his beer business to Germany as partners, and since then it has been called, “Eniser Bush Beer”.

The Bush family is a very treasonous family and all of them deserve execution for treason. George Bush Junior was AWOL and yet was pardoned. There are many dark facts about the Bush family, but time would fail me if I listed them all.

I’ll end this for now as I don’t want to post another lengthy discussion. *laughs* And apologies accepted for some of the rude comments. Keep it peaceful my friends; keep it Godly.

Merry Christmas to you all, and to all a good night.

Joe

JOE
IS THAT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE WHO HATE THEIR OPONANT PARTY
TOLD YOU?
OR WHERE DOES THESE ACCUSATIONS COME FROM?
BOTH ON MITT ROMNEY, and GEORGE BUSH,
YOU READ IT WHERE,
YOU TELL IT AS IF YOU WHERE WITNESS TO IT,
SO IF YOU DONT LIKE EITHER PARTY,
WHY DO YOU FOLLOW THIS ONE WHO IS PROVING TO DESTROY AMERICA,
YOU GIVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS,
IT WAS SAID THAT MITT ROMNEY, took over already bankrupt COMPANIES,
HE DID NOT HELP THEM TO BANKRUPT, YOUR CLAIMS ARE FROM THE PROPAGANDA LIBERAL,
I HEARD SOME OF THOSE BEFORE AND DIRECTLY FROM LIBERAL,
DON’T YOU KNOW THEY FABRICATE TO RUIN THEIR OPONANTS,
HELL THEY EVEN SET UP THE GROUND TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE REAL, HELL HE DEMONIZE BUSH TO WIN HIS ELECTION,
AND CONTINUE HIS ATTACKS AFTER HE WAS ELECTED TO MAKE SURE HE HAD BUSH DOWN ON THE GROUND,
HE DID IT TO ANOTHER OPONANT, AND MORE,
HE ONLY STAND, BY DESTROYING OTHER,
OTHERWISE HE IS NOTHING BY HIMSELF,
HELL, EVEN HIS FOREIGN POLICY STOOD BY THE SAME STANDARD OF DESTROYING THE LEADERS OF THOSE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES SO TO REPLACE THEM BY HIS FRIEND WORSE DESTRUCTIVE, WE WHERE LIVING WITNESS OF HIS ROAD TO PRESIDENCY FROM THE START TO NOW,
AND AT THE START OF HITLER THE KINGS AND QUEENS ALSO
SUPPORTED HIM, IT NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE THE ELDER BUSH
LIKE WHAT HIS SPEECHES WHERE ABOUT,
UNTIL HE DEGENERATE INTO A DEVIL KILLER,
BYE

@Joe:Joe you said in 50:

As for my tin-foil hat, this crazy old mad happens to have several college degrees garnering a 3.96 GPA. My major is in Information Technology. So at least give me some credit. You would do yourself a huge favor if you could disprove what I posted before trying to label me or anyone else as a loonie. 😮 )

and then in 68 you say

:The American cost of education is too expensive. 6% percent student loan rates is horribly high, which is why I have not yet pushed for my Bachelor’s Degree; my goal is to acquire a Master’s Degree and stop there; I do not desire to pursue a PHD.

Which is it? several degrees with a 3.96 or none yet because they cost too much?

@Joe:

Oil Companies gouging Americans with excessive gasoline and Diesel prices

When GWBush left office, gas was 1.89. It immediately went up when the Dimocrats took over, over 3.00 now

All your statements criticize the Republicans but you say you are not a Dimocrat. Strange.

@Joe:

Wow! There is too much for me to respond to.

Perhaps you should have thought about that, before throwing out so many conspiracy theories that are completely unrelated to the subject matter.

The American cost of education is too expensive.

That is because colleges and universities have continually raised the tuition prices far, far above even the real inflation rate, pricing higher education farther out of the reach of many Americans. Yet I don’t hear of any Democrats calling for tuition cost controls and regulation of price-gouging colleges. I can only suppose that this is yet another part of their efforts dedicated to the “dumbing-down” of American education. If you write your college papers in the same disjointed and confused way you reply in forums like this, with vast amounts of extraneous subject matter, I don’t see you keeping up that grade point average.

@Redteam: Gas was around $1.89 when Nancy Pelosi became speaker of the house in 2007. She said gas prices were too high and that she and the Democrats were going to change that. Like most Democrats, she never indicates whether or not change will be for the better!

For eight years we were bombarded with the “fact” that we only had high gas prices because Bush was an “oil man” and he was taking care of his “friends in the oil industry”. Guess Obama has more friends?

As for my tin-foil hat, this crazy old mad happens to have several college degrees garnering a 3.96 GPA. My major is in Information Technology. So at least give me some credit. You would do yourself a huge favor if you could disprove what I posted before trying to label me or anyone else as a loonie. 😮 )

and then in 68 you say

I’m sorry but I did not understand what you mean by, “and then in 68 you say”.

The American cost of education is too expensive. 6% percent student loan rates is horribly high, which is why I have not yet pushed for my Bachelor’s Degree; my goal is to acquire a Master’s Degree and stop there; I do not desire to pursue a PHD.

Which is it? several degrees with a 3.96 or none yet because they cost too much?

I don’t think you understand what I was trying to say. This issue wasn’t how much the cost of education is/was to me. My school was paid for by the Post 911 GI Bill. My comment about the cost of education being too high had to do with the reason why many high school students choose not to go to college; they cannot afford it. And many young kids I’ve spoken to today all stated that they do not want to rack up on student loan debts and be stuck with the bill after graduation while still working at McDonalds Or Food Lion. That was my point.

The reason why education is so expensive is not just because of the colleges charging too much money, but the interest rates. You would think that our government would send kids to college for free (or at least via taxes) in order to invest in a higher level of society. Unfortunately, this is not what the government nor the global banks want. They are trying to dumb us down so that we would be easier to fool, manipulate and control.

Well I apologize for getting off topic. But I was trying to show everyone the larger picture here. The sole reason why Veterans are being attacked by the government with regards to COLA is to contribute to our eventual hardship and perhaps death, either by starvation, homelessness, bankruptcy and possibly suicide. More than 5,000 veterans each year commit suicide because of financial hardship and divorce. What better way to speed up the dooming process than to cut our COLA. It’s not so harsh so as to lead to faster genocidal results, and slow enough to have a higher degree of success. Before you know it, Veterans on fixed incomes will have to choose between paying their electric bill or buying food. And trust me when I say, Wall-Street will cause grocery prices to sore.

Gas Prices:
George Bush AND President Obama are both responsible for higher gas prices.

http://www.mercurynews.com/presidentelect/ci_21545019/trick-question-who-had-higher-gas-prices-obama

But George Bush and his fellow oil comrades are the ones cashing in on fuel scams. And not just them, but our government as well. The US Government (depending on what state you reside in) takes roughly .60 cents for each gallon of fuel we purchase.

Ever wonder why Diesel is more expensive than gasoline despite its cheaper production? Even wonder why the government wanted to raise gasoline prices? The answer to this is actually on a youtube video. One reason was to force people out of their trucks and SUV”s. It was also to force us to buy fuel efficient cars. However, studies have shown that someone driving a 1980’s Buick with a V8 (305/350 cu) will save more money than someone driving a hybrid. Why? While the Hybrid saves more on gasoline, its repair and maintenance cost is sky rocketing expensive compared to the 1980’s Buick…..oops, drifting off topic again. My apologies. *laughs*

OK, I’ll end this for now.

Joe

When GWBush left office, gas was 1.89. It immediately went up when the Dimocrats took over, over 3.00 now

All your statements criticize the Republicans but you say you are not a Dimocrat. Strange.

I’m concerned about whether or not you are actually reading my posts RedTeam. What do you want me to say? You want me to dive into the realm of voting only Republican? I’ve told you already, I WAS (past tense) a Conservative Republican for more than 20 years, namely because I was brain washed. I swapped over to the Democratic side a few years ago because I found that the Democrats better serve the financial interest of the public (at least they are reputed to be), while the GOP only support Corporate America and Big Banks. THEN AGAIN, so do the Democrats, and that’s the reason why I NOW dislike both parties.

I don’t want to get this thread off topic, but the two party political system is, IN MY OPINION, a scam established by the global banks. Remember this past government shut down? Who was responsible for that? The Republicans or Democrats? The answer is both, when you think about it. But who was REALLY responsible for this? The Answer? Large companies like Verizon, AT&T, the global banks, and most of all, the Koch Brothers. The big boys wanted to see Americans hurt financially.

Once again, I do not like the Republicans NOR the Democrats. If I point out the faults of one side, chances are I will also point out the faults of the other side. My overall point is to some how convince all of you to awake from the party-control sleep and let go. Think for yourselves; research for the truth; find out who is/are really controlling our government, and you will begin to see as many of us see. But if you choose to remain trapped to the two party system, then I’m afraid our country will have an even tougher time returning to the values and principals of the Constitution. Despite my Christian faith, I cannot use this as a reason for voting for either side. Just because Republicans dislike Abortion, while the Democrats support it, doesn’t make either side right. For they are both lairs, cheaters, murders, extortionists, and slaver drivers. Thus, sin is sin and both sides are guilty of all; not just abortion.

Because our nation is culturally diverse, you will never see the U.S. be a nation of predominantly Christian. But if you really want to know why Christians are scorned in America, I’ll say it. It’s because of some of the most crazy wacked up job out there, always making predictions of Christ’s return, the end of the world, blah blah blah blah blah. Every single time a fruit cake starts making predictions and it fails to come to pass, that’s just one more punch in the face for the Church. I’ll save this for another blog.

Joe

@Joe:

I’m sorry but I did not understand what you mean by, “and then in 68 you say”

I thought that was quite clear. In one comment, No. 50 you said you have ‘several degrees with a 3.96 GPA, then in comment 68 you said:” I have not yet pushed for my Bachelor’s Degree;”
Why are you still ‘pushing for a Bachelor’s Degree when you already have ‘several’? That’s my point.

The reason why education is so expensive is not just because of the colleges charging too much money, but the interest rates.

The interest rate of a loan has no impact on what the college’s charge. Their prices are way too high anyhow. That’s a liberal Dimocrat issue.

Veterans are being attacked by the government with regards to COLA is to contribute to our eventual hardship and perhaps death, either by starvation, homelessness, bankruptcy and possibly suicide. More than 5,000 veterans each year commit suicide because of financial hardship and divorce. What better way to speed up the dooming process than to cut our COLA.

Joe, as I pointed out, if the rate of COLA is going to make a veteran commit suicide if he doesn’t get 2% instead of 1% then he shouldn’t stay in the military, he should get out and get a job with a retirement plan that is not going to cause him to commit suicide. I don’t believe the COLA is a ‘guaranteed’ retirement benefit.

But George Bush and his fellow oil comrades are the ones cashing in on fuel scams.

If that is true, then it implies that Obama has more comrades and is cashing in even bigger. Prices went down under Bush, up under Obama. George Bush would like to thank you for thinking he is so powerful that billions of people pay more for gas just to make him richer.

The US Government (depending on what state you reside in) takes roughly .60 cents for each gallon of fuel we purchase.

The US Government gets the same for every gallon of gas regardless of what state it is sold in. Some state rates are different.

I’m concerned about whether or not you are actually reading my posts RedTeam. What do you want me to say?

If I’m not reading them, how do I find all your spelling errors? And how do I pick up little discrepancies like you have several degrees but are still pushing for one? My concern is you only bash Republicans but claim to be conservative. that should cause at least a little bashing of Dimocrats.

Who was responsible for that? The Republicans or Democrats? The answer is both, when you think about it. But who was REALLY responsible for this? The Answer? Large companies like Verizon, AT&T, the global banks, and most of all, the Koch Brothers. The big boys wanted to see Americans hurt financially.

See, you say both, then turn around and blame it all on the Republicans. Believe me, they are all controlled by the same hierarchy.

But if you choose to remain trapped to the two party system,

There is no CHOICE in parties other than those two. No other party can win a national election.

you will never see the U.S. be a nation of predominantly Christian.

I think you missed that one a little

“The majority of Americans (73–80%) identify themselves as Christians and about 15–20% have no religious affiliation.[2][3] According to the American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) (2008) 76% of the American adult population identified themselves as Christians,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

Now that they lowered the COLA for military retirees, Obamo raises it for Federal Workers:

Obama signs order for federal worker pay raises in 2014

HONOLULU (Reuters) – President Barack Obama, as signaled earlier in the year, signed an executive order on Monday setting federal civilian and military pay rates for 2014, and including the first raise for civilian workers in four years.

Military and civilian employees will get a 1 percent raise in the new year, consistent with the level laid out in Obama’s earlier budget proposal.

The order had to be signed before January 1 to allow federal agencies to update their pay systems for the new year.

Congress could have declined to authorize the increases on at least two occasions in recent months, including when lawmakers passed a two-year budget agreement earlier this month, but chose not to intervene.

Joe
you”re having fun pulling our legs, with your comment,
AREN’T YOU?
I think I got you figured out,
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU
the last few hour ago, I was answering your comment above, with a lot of assault to your comment,
and when i was ready to post it just at the last few seconds my power shut down for a few hours,
I went outside to check if it was all the neighborhood yes it was,
AND THE SNOW HAD CHANGE TO ICE ALL OVER THE LAND,
and who do I run to? a big moose skating toward me,
I went back in fast, and look in the back of the house, to see if I should clean out the snow accumulation
from the storm turn to ice, and there is a BLACK BEAR SKATING ALSO
TOWARD THE MOOSE STILL IN THE FRONT LAWN,
I really wanted to alert that MOOSE, BUT CHANGE MY MIND HALF WAY BACK TO THE FRONT,
and a few hours after the light came back,
I CHECK ON MY COMMENT NOT POSTED, IT WAS GONE,
WELL LUCKY FOR YOU, and you’lnever know,
bye

I’m sorry but I did not understand what you mean by, “and then in 68 you say”

I thought that was quite clear. In one comment, No. 50 you said you have ‘several degrees with a 3.96 GPA, then in comment 68 you said:” I have not yet pushed for my Bachelor’s Degree;”
Why are you still ‘pushing for a Bachelor’s Degree when you already have ‘several’? That’s my point.

Ah! I see! My apologies as I did not understand the context of your post because of how you copy/paste into the new post. At any rate, if I must explain my degrees, my first degree was from Aiken Technical College in the late 1980’s in the A/C & Refrigeration Repair. I’m also a certified Auto-Paint and Body Repairman. I joined the Air Force and throughout my career, I’ve acquired enough credits for my CCAF Degree (Community College of the Air Force). These courses included Supervisor Safety, Customer Service, speech and writing, leadership, core values, etc. Upon retirement, I signed up with an accredited college to pursue a degree in Information Technology of Applied Science. But because this college would not accept my credits from the Air Force’s CCAF Degree program, I had to enroll as an undergraduate. This is part of the reason why I regret not taking additional classes while active duty; classes that would have counted towards my current degree. I’m glad that you’ve taken an interest in my educational background. :o)

The reason why education is so expensive is not just because of the colleges charging too much money, but the interest rates.
The interest rate of a loan has no impact on what the college’s charge. Their prices are way too high anyhow. That’s a liberal Dimocrat issue.

Granted a college is going to charge what it wants to charge. But to a student, 6% percent interest on a student loan is very high, and takes a very long time to pay off. To make matters worse, many college students are finding themselves stuck in a rut because their employment checks aren’t sufficient enough to cover the cost of the mandated degrees. And in many cases, college graduates are finding themselves unable to find well-paying jobs with their degrees, so they end up working at McDonalds or Wal-Mart. As for colleges being too expensive, I honestly believe they deserve it. Teachers work very hard at what they do. One of my Aunts is a school teacher, and she goes through hell. She teaches six periods in High School, with each period having anywhere between 20 to 30 students. You do that math, and that’s at most 180 Essays to read, or test papers to grade. And all of this takes place at home; not at school during work hours. So teachers deserve their salaries. Personally, I don’t think they are paid enough for the amount of sacrificing they have to do; not to mention having to babysit all of these bad spoiled kids these days.

As for education being solely a liberal issue, that’s a poor attitude to take my friend. The reason why China is slaughtering us in education is because their society promotes education for the benefit of the country. Sure their standards are high and strict, and their methods might be inhuman. But the fact remains that any country, in order to sustain themselves as the global elitists, must promote education. If corporations keep sending jobs over to India and China, then what do kids here have to inspire them to attain a higher education?

Veterans are being attacked by the government with regards to COLA is to contribute to our eventual hardship and perhaps death, either by starvation, homelessness, bankruptcy and possibly suicide. More than 5,000 veterans each year commit suicide because of financial hardship and divorce. What better way to speed up the dooming process than to cut our COLA.

Joe, as I pointed out, if the rate of COLA is going to make a veteran commit suicide if he doesn’t get 2% instead of 1% then he shouldn’t stay in the military, he should get out and get a job with a retirement plan that is not going to cause him to commit suicide. I don’t believe the COLA is a ‘guaranteed’ retirement benefit.

You make it sound as though this loss is very minuet. A MSgt (E-7) who serves 20 years acquires 50% percent of his base pay. If the MSgt lives another 20 years, he will have lost about $70,000 thousand dollars in COLA payments. That sir is a lot of money. And this money is nowhere near compared to the amount of money big corporations (such as oil) get in Federal Tax Subsidies. We’re talking billions, being a far cry from a single soldier’s $70,000 dollar loss.

And you are forgetting the most important fact Red Team. How can a disabled veteran with a missing leg or arm work to compensate for COLA loss? Veterans who are forced out due to their injuries are lucky to take home $3,000 per month. Can you honestly expect these Veterans to support themselves and their families on $36,000 annually? They need every little penny they can get. I’m actually aghast that you would pass over them so carelessly.

But George Bush and his fellow oil comrades are the ones cashing in on fuel scams.

If that is true, then it implies that Obama has more comrades and is cashing in even bigger. Prices went down under Bush, up under Obama. George Bush would like to thank you for thinking he is so powerful that billions of people pay more for gas just to make him richer.

I’m not sure where you are acquiring your information sir, but I’m afraid you are mistaken my friend. During Bush’s second term in office, gas prices reached over $4,00 per gallon; almost $5 in some states. Wall-Street speculators purposefully drove up the price of oil using Middle Eastern turmoil as an excuse. They’ve even used natural disasters (Hurricanes) as an excuse to drive up prices. Are you familiar with hedge funds? Works along the same principals. Buy when oil shares are low, and when enough shareholders have been acquired, manipulate the market and drive up prices. Thus, they sell their products at a higher price. The more shareholders join a company, the higher the prices are driven. This is even taught in economics class (which I have as an elective towards my IT Degree).

Gas prices were high under Bush, dropped slightly during election time, Obama gets elected, months later gas prices went back up, and over the past several years, they finally stabilized at about $3.50 per gallon, depending on the grade purchased. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist that they were simply trying to find the comfort zone where people would not complain about fuel prices. If people started complaining, eventually gas prices might drop.

The US Government (depending on what state you reside in) takes roughly .60 cents for each gallon of fuel we purchase.

The US Government gets the same for every gallon of gas regardless of what state it is sold in. Some state rates are different.

Correct. :o)

I’m concerned about whether or not you are actually reading my posts RedTeam. What do you want me to say?

If I’m not reading them, how do I find all your spelling errors? And how do I pick up little discrepancies like you have several degrees but are still pushing for one? My concern is you only bash Republicans but claim to be conservative. that should cause at least a little bashing of Dimocrats.

First you spelled Democrat incorrectly. *laughs* Just teasing you my friend.

I cannot expect you to believe me, nor can I force you to do so. But believe me (if you will) when I say, I do not like Republicans or Democrats. Yes I have a harder dislike for Republicans because of whom and what they stand for. When I think of Republicans, I think of the Titanic. To me, they are like the greedy rich filthy scum that stole all of the life boats without allowing additional passengers on, and left the poor folks to die. The Republicans support only the mega-rich elitists, and that’s causing some of the problems we have in our economy.

Democrats have their bad sides too! For instance, Bill Clinton allowed the Rockefeller foundation to lie to the public about the ozone depleting scam with R22 and R12 Freon’s. They convinced the government to issue a warning that Freon is causing a huge hole in the ozone above the North Pole. Those of us who are experienced in working with refrigerants knew this was nothing more than a DuPont scam (DuPont is owned by the Rockefellers). R12 and R22 are chlorine based refrigerants; the same stuff we wash our clothes with; the same stuff that purifies our drinking water and swimming pools. They used false science to trick people into dumping old A/C units and refrigerators containing R12 and R22. Now why did they do this? Because DuPont’s patent expired in 1987, so in order to retain profits, they had to convince the public that these chemicals were toxic to the environment.

There was no hole over the North Pole. Ozone is visible by sunlight. But during the long winter months when there isn’t any sunlight, a hole appears. They used this natural cycle to fool the public.
So as you can see, I despite and loath both political parties, and I wish for both to be circumcised from the face of this earth.

Who was responsible for that? The Republicans or Democrats? The answer is both, when you think about it. But who was REALLY responsible for this? The Answer? Large companies like Verizon, AT&T, the global banks, and most of all, the Koch Brothers. The big boys wanted to see Americans hurt financially.

See, you say both, then turn around and blame it all on the Republicans. Believe me, they are all controlled by the same hierarchy.
I agree; both the left and the right are controlled by the same global bank elitists.
But if you choose to remain trapped to the two party system,

There is no CHOICE in parties other than those two. No other party can win a national election.

If we spread the word (which is happening now), then more and more will stop voting for either candidates from the left or the right. I’m hoping the Jesse Ventura and Howard Stern keep their promise and run. They will most definitely win. I will vote for them just to keep Hillary Clinton from winning, and anyone from the Republicans as well. The only Republican I would vote for is Ron Paul. I hope he runs because he too is against the global banks.

God bless and have a great night everyone.

Joe

Joe
you”re having fun pulling our legs, with your comment,
AREN’T YOU?
I think I got you figured out,
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU
the last few hour ago, I was answering your comment above, with a lot of assault to your comment,
and when i was ready to post it just at the last few seconds my power shut down for a few hours,
I went outside to check if it was all the neighborhood yes it was,
AND THE SNOW HAD CHANGE TO ICE ALL OVER THE LAND,
and who do I run to? a big moose skating toward me,
I went back in fast, and look in the back of the house, to see if I should clean out the snow accumulation
from the storm turn to ice, and there is a BLACK BEAR SKATING ALSO
TOWARD THE MOOSE STILL IN THE FRONT LAWN,
I really wanted to alert that MOOSE, BUT CHANGE MY MIND HALF WAY BACK TO THE FRONT,
and a few hours after the light came back,
I CHECK ON MY COMMENT NOT POSTED, IT WAS GONE,
WELL LUCKY FOR YOU, and you’lnever know,
bye

You may or may not laugh when I say this, but do you know the EXACT same thing happened to me about 20 minutes ago. I was responding to RedTeam and I transmitted by post, only I forgot to enter my information.

Now you’ve got me curious. So you did the same thing at nearly the same time? You weren’t trying to hack into my computer were you? *laughs* I know many blog sites are managed by IT Professionals who attract users to discuss popular topics. And while they do this, the IT Professionals (or blog moderators) will often times try attacking users computers to find weaknesses. If a weakness is found, they will report this weakness to the software vendor in return for financial compensation. For example, if I had my own blog (not anymore), and I wanted to find a weakness with Norton Antivirus, I would try searching for bloggers on my blog site using Norton. I would keep trying to punch holes through their firewall until I found a weakness. I would then report this weakness to Norton in exchange for money. Happens everyday. Companies save money by doing this because they don’t have to hire a full IT staff.

You’re not doing this to me are you? If so….I’ll catch you. ;o)

Joe

Joe
NO I was not trying to hack your computer,
and you made me laugh a lot more,
BYE

@Joe:

The reason why China is slaughtering us in education is because their society promotes education for the benefit of the country. Sure their standards are high and strict, and their methods might be inhuman.

I don’t agree that China is slaughtering the people that are in school to get an education. The problem here is that we are trying to educate too many people that just don’t give a damn and are not capable of learning.
Joe, I hate to break this to you, but I’m pretty sure that a ‘certificate for a tech school’ is not a ‘degree’.

. If the MSgt lives another 20 years, he will have lost about $70,000 thousand dollars in COLA payments.

That’s only if you figure a full 3% COLA. COLA’s did NOT average 3% over the last 20 years. As I said, COLA’s are NOT guaranteed in calculating retirement pay for the military. It’s is granted or not granted each year in the budget process. If $70,000 over 20 years is a deal breaker for military retirement and committing suicide, I’d recommend finding a civilian job that pays a better retirement.

Wall-Street speculators purposefully drove up the price of oil using Middle Eastern turmoil as an excuse.

Wait a minute, didn’t you say it was George Bush that did it? Was it Bush or the Wall Street speculators? Oil prices surged after 9/11, but went downward after that and was 1.89 at the end of Bush’s term. Under Obama it has gone up to over $4.00 but has dropped about a dollar since then. Still a lot higher than Bush’s final prices.

How can a disabled veteran with a missing leg or arm work to compensate for COLA loss? Veterans who are forced out due to their injuries are lucky to take home $3,000 per month. Can you honestly expect these Veterans to support themselves and their families on $36,000 annually?

As I’ve said, all veterans that are retired or disabled are entitled to WHAT THEY WERE GUARANTEED, but not adjusted because ‘you feel like they deserve it’. I think the military retirement program is very good and very generous for the conditions it is awarded. A person that loses an arm or a leg or an eye are awarded lump sums, in addition to their disability. Disabled veterans get many benefits that just retired vets do not get. For example, an allowance to remodel their homes to accomodate them. Wheelchairs, car ramps, etc.

First you spelled Democrat incorrectly. *laughs* Just teasing you my friend.

I didn’t spell Dimocrat incorrectly, they are very Dim indeed.

I think of the Titanic. To me, they are like the greedy rich filthy scum that stole all of the life boats without allowing additional passengers on, and left the poor folks to die.

You must not be familiar with the ‘true’ story of the Titanic, many ‘wealthy’ men died. If you think there are more super rich Republicans than Dimocrats, then you haven’t been looking. Know what party George Soros is in? Bill Gates? Rockefellers?
Joe, you need to get a lot of your facts correct, you’ve been listening to the wrong Dimocrats. your quote:”(DuPont is owned by the Rockefellers). R12 and R22 are chlorine based refrigerants; the same stuff we wash our clothes with; the same stuff that purifies our drinking water and swimming pools. They used false science to trick people into dumping old A/C units and refrigerators containing R12 and R22″ Don’t know where that comes from, but DuPont is NOT owned by the Rockefellers. I know all about the R12 R22 scam, and I agree with you about the Ozone business, but that is an Al Gore scam, not the Republicans. Gore is a Dimocrat.

I wasn’t thru, I accidentally hit the publish comment button

@Joe:

If we spread the word (which is happening now), then more and more will stop voting for either candidates from the left or the right.

I’m not sure ‘not voting’ is a way to elect anyone. I’m pretty sure that those that actually get votes will win the elections, and they will either be Dimocrat or Republican.

I’m hoping the Jesse Ventura and Howard Stern keep their promise and run. They will most definitely win.

What, we’re not having a National Clown election are we? Actually neither of them are really good clowns, so they likely wouldn’t even win that title. But that does kinda give me a hint where you’re getting your facts. LOL

DrJohn
MERRY CHRISMAS TO YOU,
AND ALL THE BLOGGERS

Joe
is playing a game to get our reaction ON WHAT HE SPIT, RIGHT AND LEFT,
YOU JOE DID NOT HIT YOUR TARGET, AND YOUR CREDIBILITY AFTER BASHING EVERYONE
WHO ARE DECENT AND STANDING FOR THE WRONG ONE, IS TELLING US,
HE JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN, ENJOY, JOE
what are you drinking?

@ilovebeeswarzone:

Merry Christmas, Bees. I know you remember the reason for the season.

retire05
best to you my friend
thank you,

Well I’m a little stunned at the accusation of me supposedly being here is merely to have fun. I’m simply here trying to tell you all what I believe to be the truth. Anyways, I will not post anything today, except to say:

Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year.

Pray that God may restore our nation; pray that He will set us free from the mega-rich and their corporate controlled government, media and ill globalized intentions. May the Messiah one day restore our nation to that of honesty, piety, and respect for all men.

Joe

@Joe:

May the Messiah one day restore our nation to that of honesty, piety, and respect for all men.

You gonna impeach Obama to get the process started?

You must not be familiar with the ‘true’ story of the Titanic, many ‘wealthy’ men died. If you think there are more super rich Republicans than Dimocrats, then you haven’t been looking. Know what party George Soros is in? Bill Gates? Rockefellers?
Joe, you need to get a lot of your facts correct, you’ve been listening to the wrong Dimocrats. your quote:”(DuPont is owned by the Rockefellers). R12 and R22 are chlorine based refrigerants; the same stuff we wash our clothes with; the same stuff that purifies our drinking water and swimming pools. They used false science to trick people into dumping old A/C units and refrigerators containing R12 and R22″ Don’t know where that comes from, but DuPont is NOT owned by the Rockefellers. I know all about the R12 R22 scam, and I agree with you about the Ozone business, but that is an Al Gore scam, not the Republicans. Gore is a Dimocrat.

Such baseless accusations. Why are you so determined to defend such a corrupt party? The Republicans have a long history of causing problems in the United States. And you err by assuming that I’m here to defend the Democrats? *laughs* Seems like your only desire is for me to leave out all Republicans and bash only Democrats. You sir are proving my point; you are trapped to the two party system and instead of trying to make a difference, you insist of keeping things the same. There are hundreds of thousands of us who want to break away from the two-party system.

And yes I know the history of the Titanic more than you. I know enough to know that there were far more rich people who survived than the poor. It is a fact that the rich class was the first to begin loading in the life boats. It is a fact that some of the spoiled rich folks didn’t want to be crowded in the boats, so some of the boats were not filled to maximum capacity.

Are you rich? Could this explain why you are so defensive for them, if at all?

Am I jealous of the rich? No; I too want wealth. But I’m not like those who extort for profits. I don’t slave drive people for the sake of the “bottom line”. I don’t fire people or sell my business to China so that my profits, along with the companies share holders, can earn more money.

All right, you seem to defensive about my comments towards your party (Republicans), then I will now list major dislikes of the Democrats.

DEMOCRATS
1. Pretend to care about environment but still drive gas guzzlers (Al-Gore included).
2. Pretend to care for working class, but only support social programs; not job creation.
3. Spew the same level of promised change, but things always remain the same. Corporations and Wall Street continue to see sky-rocketing profits while the working class citizens continue to get hammered.
4. Responsible for the abortions, gay marriage, and other anti-Christian behaviors. Then again, we are all guilty of anti-Christian behaviors. Lying, adultery, murder in our hearts are all examples of anti-Christian behavior.
5. Use the EPA as a means for profit by slapping huge fines on CO2 industrial complexes.
6. Guilty of insider trading just like any other dirty politician (Nancy Pelosi)

I’m sure you could think of more negative things about the Democrats. But let me be very clear. I do not care what you think of me (as to what position you believe I’m affiliated with). That is your choice to decide. I will continue to make my points, but its totally up to you to decide.

My dream is to restore what the only President in history has done, and who was not party of either political party. George Washington.

Now if you insist that I must choose a side, then you can be rest assured that I will NEVER vote for a Republican again. NEVER! Over my life time, only one President tried to care for working class people, and who was a Republican, and that was Ronald Reagan. I know many Republicans try to glorify him as the “tax cutter”, but what many of them fail to recall is that Reagan raised taxes on the rich boys roughly 11 times, and even spoke out against some of the big fat-cats.

Anyways, setting all of this aside, I still once again wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

P.S. The next time you decide to tell me my facts are wrong, you might try citing sources to disprove my points. And I’d caution you about using Wikipedia; they are an unreliable source as anyone can change the information there. College students are not allowed to use Wikipedia for reference material, and I maintain that practice.

@Joe: Joe, did you say?

Anyways, I will not post anything today, except to say:

Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year.

Wall-Street speculators purposefully drove up the price of oil using Middle Eastern turmoil as an excuse.

Wait a minute, didn’t you say it was George Bush that did it? Was it Bush or the Wall Street speculators? Oil prices surged after 9/11, but went downward after that and was 1.89 at the end of Bush’s term. Under Obama it has gone up to over $4.00 but has dropped about a dollar since then. Still a lot higher than Bush’s final prices.

*laughs* I’ve got you figured out. You just like to argue. You don’t seem to pay much attention. Is there a difference between George Bush and Wall Street, as though the two weren’t working together? Wasn’t it George Bush who politicked on privatizing Social Security in order to increase its revenue? And just where do you think (if approved) Social Security would be invested in? McDonalds? The GOP wants to use Social Security money and allow the investors in Wall-Street to make more money. But certainly not for the benefit of the recipients. They merely want to do the same thing they have always been good at; using other peoples money so that THEY can make money. Yes I know this is a Democratic argument. But who cares? It’s the truth! So why would I side with a political side who’s agenda is to enslave working class Americans? This doesn’t mean I enjoy the Democrats.

At any rate, Wall-Street and George Bush are part of the family. But the family is much larger than what I can post on here. It goes all the way to the Rockefellers, Rothschild’s, Koch Brothers, and God knows how many other global elitists are trying to rule the world.

Tell you what. I’d like to give you the chance to list as many positive things the Republican Party has done for our society within the past 50 or less years. Name them….

Joe

As I’ve said, all veterans that are retired or disabled are entitled to WHAT THEY WERE GUARANTEED, but not adjusted because ‘you feel like they deserve it’. I think the military retirement program is very good and very generous for the conditions it is awarded. A person that loses an arm or a leg or an eye are awarded lump sums, in addition to their disability. Disabled veterans get many benefits that just retired vets do not get. For example, an allowance to remodel their homes to accomodate them. Wheelchairs, car ramps, etc.

Oh so a war hero who is unable to support his/her family down the road because their COLA wasn’t sufficient to cover the exaggeratedly raised cost of living? So if the disabled Veterans had to choose between paying his/her electric bill or groceries, then its tough on them? I just love the amount of pride and care you have for our war hero’s.

Now since you say that they shouldn’t base their decisions on retirement, or other benefits, then what’s wrong with them being informed of the risks before signing up? Are you against the media (if it were possible) explaining to future military members of the risks for injury and inadequate compensation? Or are you one of those who hopes that people are fooled into joining the service for blind honor and blind patriotism? All sacrifice and no reward, as if the only sense of reward must be emotional and not financial?

I’m sorry, but your responses are dishonoring to every disabled veteran alive and dead, and you should honestly be ashamed of yourself. You’re starting to sound like the greedy rich guy who refuses to pay just a few cents or dollars more to help out the ones who defended this country. I grow sick and tired of people praising our service men and women their lips, but not with their hearts.

Oh and you mentioned the special benefits they get. Hmmm? You mean the benefits that they are promised, but have to wait years and years to finally received, assuming they don’t die beforehand? I’ve known a few Veterans who, to this very day, have not been able to get the VA to modify their minivans for a wheelchair loader.

Promising benefits is one thing; fulfilling those obligations in an honorable fashion is another. I know of a Veteran who was intentionally neglected by the VA Hospital, having suffered a major hip injury, who later died of gangrene. He was moved from room to room so that the public would not know of his existence; especially when they were being inspected.

Joe

@Joe:

Such baseless accusations. Why are you so determined to defend such a corrupt party? The Republicans have a long history of causing problems in the United States.

Joe, you’re kinda disingenuous aren’t you? You start posting that you’re conservative, then all you do is sing the liberals kumbaya. Is that your normal practice, start off with the big lie then try to say it’s not a big lie. Oh my.

Are you rich? Could this explain why you are so defensive for them, if at all?

Didn’t you get the message? All rich guys are required to spend a minimum of 10 hours a week on Flopping Aces defending rich people. That was part of the contract I had to sign before they would allow me to become ‘rich’.

I don’t slave drive people

You didn’t get that message either, eh? The Republicans outlawed slavery back in the 1860’s. No more slave driving.

Good list of Dimocrat examples.

Now if you insist that I must choose a side, then you can be rest assured that I will NEVER vote for a Republican again. NEVER! Over my life time, only one President tried to care for working class people, and who was a Republican, and that was Ronald Reagan.

Why would I insist that you choose sides. I’ve already said that in my opinion, neither of the parties have the nations interests as an objective. I will always vote against the Dimocrat running for president, and if I expect to vote for the winner, it will be for the Republican because no libertarian or Green party, etc will ever get any traction. The election will be between the dimocrat and republican, those are the only choices. Just get the better one and that ain’t gonna be a Dimocrat (and it won’t be a McCain or Romney either, two RINO’s)

P.S. The next time you decide to tell me my facts are wrong, you might try citing sources to disprove my points.

That would take up way too much time (Rich people don’t waste their time) since about 99% of what you write is incorrect.

I’m hoping the Jesse Ventura and Howard Stern keep their promise and run. They will most definitely win.

What, we’re not having a National Clown election are we? Actually neither of them are really good clowns, so they likely wouldn’t even win that title. But that does kinda give me a hint where you’re getting your facts. LOL

Very funny, but no that is not where I’m getting my facts. Perhaps my entertainment, but certainly not my political facts. But you apparently missed the point. I would rather vote for those clowns, than for either side bank-kissing extortionists from either party.

Joe

May the Messiah one day restore our nation to that of honesty, piety, and respect for all men.

You gonna impeach Obama to get the process started?

If I could, absolutely. He signed HR693 which allows FEMA to control the potential “Police State” should the American people learn of the truth about September 11th. I won’t discuss these things here, but Obama is certainly not on my favorite list. Yes I voted for him, but I knew that a vote for Mitt Romney would have been more disastrous than Obama. Mitt Romney would have driven our nations into further bankruptcy, the working class citizens would have been driving into higher unemployment, or be forced to take jobs that pay less than $12 dollars an hour, having to work more than 60 hours a week just to pay the electric bill. And more importantly, he would have cut taxes for the rich down to zero (eliminating capital gains and dividends tax) so that the investors can live their elaborate lives without having to do any work at all; the “servants” also known as working class citizens, would work for them…..so disgusting! And I would never vote for a man who believes in enslaving Chinese children for cheap labor! Would you?

Joe

You didn’t get that message either, eh? The Republicans outlawed slavery back in the 1860′s. No more slave driving.

Good list of Dimocrat examples.

Outlawed physical slavery, but they adhere to a modern form of slavery. These are called, “Right to work” lies, and “Money as Debt” enslavement.

Then there’s Mitt Romney and his fellow business buddies that moved plants to India and China in the name of “Cheap labor”. You don’t consider that slavery? Perhaps you are ok with using employees more than 60 hours a week, with only a bowl of rice to sustain you! Perhaps you are ok with forcing employees to reside at the industrial plant and sleeping on small beds?

Joe

That would take up way too much time (Rich people don’t waste their time) since about 99% of what you write is incorrect.

Takes you that long to disprove a point? I could understand having to write a very long essay. But if I say that more of the survivors on the Titanic were rich than poor, and you happen to disagree, then prove it. (Not really saying to argue about the Titanic; this was just an example).

Joe

@Joe:

Is there a difference between George Bush and Wall Street,

unbelievable! Wall street is spelled W A L L S T R E E T , George Bush is spelled G E O R G E B U S H Doesn’t that look different to you?

Wasn’t it George Bush who politicked on privatizing Social Security in order to increase its revenue?

There’s not a civilized person I know that is not for privatizing Social Security.

Tell you what. I’d like to give you the chance to list as many positive things the Republican Party has done for our society within the past 50 or less years. Name them….

Interesting that you don’t know of anything to list for the Dimocrats.

Oh so a war hero who is unable to support his/her family down the road because their COLA wasn’t sufficient to cover the exaggeratedly raised cost of living?

Why do you limit your content to ‘war hero’s’ ?

So if the disabled Veterans had to choose between paying his/her electric bill or groceries, then its tough on them? I just love the amount of pride and care you have for our war hero’s.

Are you going to pretend that all ‘disabled Vets’ are disabled for military reasons? Why do you limit your concern to war hero’s? How about all retired vets that are not war hero’s?
I have said,,and maintain that all Veterans are entitled to what they were guaranteed when the enlisted.

Now since you say that they shouldn’t base their decisions on retirement, or other benefits, then what’s wrong with them being informed of the risks before signing up?

Where did I say that? Let me see now, have I got this right? There is a war going on, he enlists in the Army. You think he needs to be provided with a list of the risks that go along with being shot at in a war? Let’s see how would it go? You may be 1. shot in the head, 2. shot in the arm 3. shot in the leg. 4. shot in the heart. 5. shot in the stomach. etc, etc. All of these may cause you bodily harm, including death. I’m sure you are just trying your comedy routine. Right?

Or are you one of those who hopes that people are fooled into joining the service for blind honor and blind patriotism? All sacrifice and no reward, as if the only sense of reward must be emotional and not financial?

I have no ‘hopes’ either way. If someone wants to volunteer, great. If they don’t want to volunteer, great. It’s their choice. I volunteered because I considered it an honor to serve in it’s military services. It was not a false honor, and I have always been pleased that I was allowed to serve. I was never mislead in any way as an inducement or enticement to join. They paid me everything they told me they would pay me. I got every benefit they told me I would get. I was not cheated in any way.

All sacrifice and no reward, as if the only sense of reward must be emotional and not financial?

There was no sacrifice and the reward was the pride I had in serving. I was awarded the GI Bill, even tho that was passed after I served and it was made retroactive to cover my period of service.

I’m sorry, but your responses are dishonoring to every disabled veteran alive and dead, and you should honestly be ashamed of yourself.

I think you’re trying to put the cart before the horse. First, we all know you lie. (all those degrees with a 3.96) But I have said absolutely nothing that dishonors any vet, wounded, disable, or otherwise. For you to insinuate that they are all stupid or dumb or for some reason they didn’t understand that they might get an injury serving in a war zone is a little much.

You’re starting to sound like the greedy rich guy who refuses to pay just a few cents or dollars more to help out the ones who defended this country.

I was continuously employed every week of my life from the age of 14 until I retired. 4 years of that was military service. I chose to not make a career of the military, though it sounded like a good deal for me to stay in until I reached the age of 35 and draw 50% of my pay for the rest of my life. I chose to get out, go to college, work and retire. I did that. No one mislead me. I have a comfortable retirement, part of which is Social Security, which I overpaid for, but still I earned it. So I don’t need some liberal fruitcake tell me that I’m dishonoring any veterans.