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If you can not even recognize Nazism as right wing you are a complete idiot
Many many right wing conservative Americans such as Henry Ford Sen Prescott Bush who did great business with Germany liked Hitler
These same people hated Russia and socialism
Might I suggest reading. Trading with the Zendmy by Loftus in regards to how well Anerican capitalists liked Hitler?

Have you ever noticed how Leftism only works best for the “masses”?
The Vanguard are somehow always exempted from its strictures as they have important work to do.
Hugo Cavez managed to leave his daughter a little something while the rest of the people of Venezuela see empty shelves: Four BILLION Dollars!
And, Alejandro Andrade,
who served as Venezuela’s treasury minister from 2007 to 2010 and was reportedly a close associate of Chavez, was discovered to have $11.2billion in his name sitting in HSBC accounts in Switzerland!
Oh, well, PUBLICLY, during his lifetime, Hugo Chavez denounced wealthy individuals.
But looks like he was a bit two-faced when it came to HIS wealthy individuals.

The socialist left-tards are collectively suffering from The Butterfield Effect: It’s what happens when someone on the Left makes a statement that is laughably ludicrous on its face, yet it reveals what the speaker truly believes — no matter how dumb…

Let’s not forget Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, aka Vladimir Lenin. He is an icon on the left despite the fact that he began the killing spree that Stalin continued. If you were to look at arguments and statements made by those on the left and compare them to what Lenin said, they would essentially be the same. As was pointed out on another thread by Artfidgr, the left in this country is following the Menshevik approach of gradual change as opposed to Bolshevik approach of change through immediate violent revolution. We have already seen leftists who post here state on more than occasion that they consider conservatives to be the biggest threat to this country. We currently have a leftist on another thread comparing us to terrorists.

The left claim to be the tolerant ones yet if you disagree with them they do everything in their power to shut you up and resort to such accusations as racist, homophobic, Islamaphobic, war on women, etc. etc. Make no mistake, if the left in this country had their way there would be but one party, theirs, and anyone who didn’t get in line would end up suffering the same fate of past peoples who didn’t go along their leftist agenda. They can claim to be “non-violent” but the PP videos, the OWS protests, and the recent rants about killing cops show otherwise. Their agitators and intelligenstia of course don’t engage in those activities but they inspire others who aren’t afraid of violent confrontation to do it.

@John: The National SOCIALIST Party was, by definition, NOT RIGHT WING!

@Me, #5:

The National SOCIALIST Party was, by definition, NOT RIGHT WING!

That’s a load of manure.

People have properly understood the National Socialist German Workers Party to be an extreme right-wing organization since its beginnings in 1919. The right’s recent efforts at historical revision are ridiculous. Their entire argument is pinned to the occurrence of the word “Socialist” in the party name. News flash, kids: The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea—aka North Korea—is not democratic, nor is it a republic. The fact that the words appear in the country’s official name means absolutely nothing.

The reality is that the Nazis hated socialism. The word was included in the party name early on because it had a certain currency and populace appeal at the time, but all leftist organizations and ideas were total anathema to the Nazis. They battled leftists of every description on the streets for years. Beatings and murders were common. As soon as they came to power they made socialism illegal. They rounded up socialists by the thousands and sent them to concentration camps. Over 11,000 were arrested and sent to Dachau in 1933 alone. Many were executed. The Nazis disbanded all unions and arrested their leaders, which is not a particularly leftist thing to do. Socialist books disappeared from universities, libraries, and shops and were publicly burned. If you wrote or distributed such material you could expect a late night visit from the Gestapo. By no stretch of the imagination were Nazis leftist.

Three books, in combination, explains American Liberalism.
The first is The Bell Curve, by Herrnstein, which points out that half the population is not as bright as the other half. You would think this to be obvious, but if you couple this with the Dunning-Kruger Effect, that these same Left-side-of-the-Curve people do not accept this truth, and indeed, consider themselves brighter than average, a picture begins to appear.
Over the last 50 years, the Left has convinced the proles that a college degree is simply required. Doesn’t matter what the degree is in, it’s your ticket to the top. A BA in 14th century art is enough. You can’t change a tire, but it doesn’t matter.

The second would be “Pathological Altruism”, a series of papers collected by Barbara Oakley, that suggests that Liberals will kill you, but it’s for your own good.

The third is Hayek’s The Road to Serfdom. This is simply that Communism has rebranded itself as Liberalism, or Progressivism, or Secular Humanism, or some other verbal camouflage.

Do the equation, and there are two values. The Evil, the Stupid. The Evil tells the Stupid what to believe. The Stupid, firmly convinced of their own brilliance, have been told that we have always been at war with Eastasia, and will hate and kill anyone who disagrees.

Please explain the difference in the treatment of the individual citizen in the leftist Russia and the Right wing Germany.

The communists and National socialists only fought for control of the boot on the throat of the individual. Both were exterminators of copious numbers of their citizens.

The notion that nazism is of the right was a fabrication incorporated into a false political spectrum line graph drawn by early communist infiltrators of the US college system. It took, apparently.

Ya, I know, Bush.

@Greg: Fascism and Nazism have simply become shorthand for any political system lefties don’t like.

Nazis rounded up and committed atrocities against people from all manner of “others”. They did end up focusing heavily on our Jewish friends, initially because they sought to nationalize or take over their successful businesses in order further their own cause or line the pockets of their favored cronies. Hmm…sound at all familiar?

Your lame-ass attempt to spin National Socialist to mean something other than what it clearly does is no more accurate than pissing on my leg and telling me it’s raining.

@John: Actually,the conservative “right” in Germany during that period had all been steadfastly loyal to the Kaiser and the Hohenzollern monarchy…when that was abolished,they transferred their loyalty to Paul von Hindenburg and the Weimar Republic…Hitler knew his Marx….hence,his very own German “dictatorship of the proletariat”

@Fred H: Thanks for this book list, Fred.
I had Bell Curve and Road to Serfdom on my shelf but had not even heard of “Pathological Altruism.”
Before I spring for it I think I’ll try finding a copy at our Library.
The Amazon reviews make it sound really interesting.

The government took over the means of production from private industry.

The government rounded up and detained and/or eliminated ‘undesirables’ in internment camps.

The government took control of healthcare.

The government supported eugenics, in reality even if it denied this support.

The government supported mass violence against the state in order to gain control.

The government supported the creation of the “new man.”

The government expanded militarism.

The leader instituted what he called “socialist” changes in support of the ‘have-nots’ and leading them to rise up over their oppressors.

So, are these the actions of a ‘right-wing’ fascist govrnment, or a ‘left-wing’ communist one?

One could pick and choose certain entries above (hello, John) and say “You could say that about any government!” But the point is ALL of these actions were done, in the same era, by both the Nazis and the communists. And folks seem to be forgetting they had a pact and worked together (hello, Poland). I guess they didn’t know they were on opposite ends of the spectrum!

(Yes, the Soviets eventually turned on them, but that has nothing to do with their suddenly discovering the Soviets weren’t right-wingers.)

“By no stretch of the imagination were Nazis leftist.” That’s hogwash. Saying they rounded up Soviet communists because they suddenly realized “Ohmigosh, they’s COMMIES!” reveals the game.

@JSW: Do you know what the word, ‘nazi’ stood for?

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei…

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party

The Nazi Germans considered most Slavs to be Untermenschen

Soviets whacked rivals all the time just like two coke drug lords battling for supremacy
Both were socialist and as Marx stated the goal of socialism is communism


A complete idiot? Let’s see. Nazism = German National SOCIALIST WORKERS Party. It is firmly rooted in Marxism, the red on the flag symbolises socialism. All means of production controlled by Reich Ministry of Economics. Massive expansion of welfare state (free education and healthcare), classeless society, indeed the Nazis bragged they had united ALL Germans. Establishment of a one party state and a collectivist society – “You must submit to the overwhelming urge to obey” said Hitler and as is usual with socialist states, establishment of forced labor camps, just as occurred in USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam and North Korea.

The Nazis proclaimed they were socialists who were champions of the German worker and the German farmer. They knew what they were and they belong firmly on the left, slightly to the right of Communism – International Socialism.

Hope this helps.

@JSW: The amazing part of all this is how the left contradicts themselves on this matter (like most others as well). They call people who advocate small government “right wingers”, therefore a right wing extremist would be someone who advocates no government at all, i.e. an anarchist. If their argument was consistent and the NAZI’s were right wingers, they would have at a minimum advocated small government and if they were right wing extremists, they would have been anarchists and would have completely eliminated government. A direct contradiction of historical facts. Hitler was pro-big government, a control freak, against private ownership of firearms, and anti-capitalist amongst other things. Sounds like a lefty to me.

“The American people will never knowingly accept Socialism. But under the name of “liberalism” they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist Program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

Norman Thomas]
Six time Presidential candidate on the Socialist Party ticket.

Any questions?

No surprise that plain -ISM facts give liberal zombies a “fiery farter”. Community definitely needs more posts like this.

@Christopher J Green:

Nazism = German National SOCIALIST WORKERS Party.

Bernie Sanders admits to being a Nationalist and a Socialist who is getting most of his campaign money from the Workers Unions.

Knowing that, tell us Greg What party’s nomination is he trying to win?