Obamacare falls 38 million short

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The fall offensive has begun. It is now claimed McObamacare has now served 7 million!

More than seven million people enrolled in ObamaCare by the March 31 deadline, topping the White House’s initial goal, the administration said Monday.

Press secretary Jay Carney opened his daily briefing on Tuesday by saying the enrollment figure was 7,041,000.

“Today we can say definitively, that at midnight last night, it’s fair to say we surpassed everyone’s expectations, at least everyone in this room,” Carney said.

More people could be added to that number, since the administration is allowing consumers who were unable to complete their applications to continue the process beyond Monday. The total also does not include data from the last day of enrollment for states who run their own exchanges.
It’s not clear how many people have paid their first premium under the healthcare exchanges, though Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, quoting insurance industry officials, said 80 to 90 percent of enrollees had done so.

But have the newly insured done so? A heretofore unknown study says otherwise:

But while he took great pains to enphasize that the number would grow – saying ‘we’re still waiting on data from state exchanges’ – he dodged tough questions about other statistics that reporters thought he should have had at the ready.
Those numbers included how many Americans have paid for their insurance policies, and are actually insured. Also, he had no answer to the thorny question of how few signups represented people who had no insurance before the Affordable Care Act took effect.
Numbers from one study, a RAND Corporation effort that has been kept under wraps, suggests that barely 858,000 previously uninsured Americans – nowhere near 7 million – paid for new policies and joined the ranks of the insured by Monday night.

Most of the sign-ups are those who already did have coverage and few of the new sign-ups were previously uninsured:

Aside from the issue of the numbers’ likely decrease when non-paying enrollments are taken into account, administration officials have been coy about a RAND Corporation study that shows relatively few Obamacare enrollees were previously uninsured.
‘What I can tell you is that we expect there to be a good mix of people who were previously uninsured who now have insurance,’ White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday.
‘Certainly, there’s a significant number who now have qualified for Medicaid in those states that expanded Medicaid who will have insurance who didn’t have it before.’
But the Affordable Care Act carried with it the promise of covering ‘every American,’ and it appears to have fallen tremendously short.
The RAND study, which has not been published – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up.
And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month’s premiums.
If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298.

I just watched Obama take a victory lap and dun Republicans in the process:

“I don’t get it,” Obama says. “Why are folks working so hard for people not to have health insurance? Why are they so mad about folks having health insurance?”

“There are still no death panels. Armageddon has not arrived. Instead this law is helping millions of Americans.”

Obama warned that “history is not kind” to those who stood in the way of American progress.

Obama said that he wouldn’t talk away from the alleged 40 million uninsured but he just did. Obama claims victory with 1.5 million uninsured signed up and only half of them paid a premium.

To get that Obama blew a billion dollars on a garbage website. Premiums are going up next year and many can expect sticker shock.

Obamacare performance is well below projections:

Hard Truth #2:Performance is Well Below CBO Projections

So is 7.1 million fewer uninsured a job well done or something in need of drastic improvement? The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office has been the official “scorekeeper” for Obamacare since well before it was even passed. I see no reason not to use CBO projections of coverage as the basis for determining how well the law is doing at this juncture. Indeed, using CBO projections arguably will make the law look far better than it would otherwise, since the CBO has rather drastically scaled back its expectations for the law since 2010. CBO’s estimates of the number of uninsured we might have expected to see in 2014 absent the law have fluctuated over time. So the fairest comparison is to measure performance against the projected percentage reduction in the total number of uninsured who we would have in 2014 were the law not enacted.

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As someone said, if you fire 20 people and hire back 18 of them you didn’t create 18 new jobs.

Obama said that history is not kind to those who stood in the way of American progress. Neither is it kind to galactic liars. Despite all the Obama bullshit 38 million uninsured still remain.

This is not success.

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@Ronald J. Ward:

The GOP or conservatives or baggers or whatever the hell they are these days have done absolutely everything in their power to sabotage it, to insure failure, and have resisted any and all efforts to fix any of it, or even, offer any meaningful solutions to our disaster of a health care system.

That is because they understand something Progressives like you do not: government operatives, no matter how noble their intent is, simply lack the perceptual ability and legislative/regulatory capability to reliably solve highly-individual-specific problems through top-down application of the coercive force of law.

You can’t fix, what is fundamentally flawed.

@Pete: #51

You are one of the most hypocritical and dishonest people with whom I have ever had the displeasure of interacting. You are beyond disreputable, and as is typical of a blind zealot, have no shame.

You probably got him promoted to the next level up. He might even run for office.

On Breitbart. Only 2.8% of uninsured got and paid for coverage. Two thirds or the 7 .1 million had existing coverage. The WH can’t release factual data. The Bamster has a better chance of stating that he’s the American athlete of the year. Democratic pollsters are saying avoid this issue if at all possible. The mid term elections are going to be very interesting. Back to Gorebull Worming and yellow lines in the sand.

@Smorgasbord:
you have a point. However they have us in the pot with them.

@enchanted: #55

you have a point. However they have us in the pot with them.

Not me. I got out a long time ago. Just give a good kick with those massive legs of yours, and you are out. Just be careful where you just to.

The best idea is not to get in the pot in the first place.

@Pete: …..the Washington Post is reporting that even the Obama admin doesn’t know how many of their enrollment numbers are actually duplicate enrollments that were double counted to reach their 7.1 million numbers.

Good point, Pete.
I was talking (email) to an old CA neighbor.
He had to sign up, re-sign up and on and on because ”glitches,” prevented his paperwork from re-appearing if he left the site then came back to it later.
Also, when he did sign up, it counted him, his wife and their baby as three different policies!
He is STILL trying to get that fixed as it is more expensive than the family plan he had picked out.
I wonder how many of the 7.1 million he and his family counted as?

Too funny too watch you get more desperate as your premise gets weaker and weaker by the day.

WATCH: Colbert Skewers Right-wing Pundits for Their Absurdly Wrong Predictions About Obamacare

http://www.alternet.org/video/

@This one: Yes. “Fake-News” entertainment. Very clever.

Now…please find something to occupy yourself with while the adults speak. It’s almost your bedtime!

@This one: It is to laugh. If anything, Republicans never imagined the scope of the disaster that Obamacare would become.

Why did the Democrats shut the government down rather than do what Obama later did, illegally, on his own? If the law is so great, why not enact it in full, elections or no elections?

@Ritchie The Riveter: Well said, and to the point.

@This one:

You do realize of course, that Colbert is a comedian, right?

Left out of Obama’s one story about how a bone cancer patient is getting treatment under ObamaCare was how her family pays for the policy.
Joann Rizzo is the name of mom.
The ”girl” is 23.
This is her 2nd bout of bone cancer, her 1st was when she was 13 or 14,
No dad appears to be in the picture.
So, I ask; who knows if this is a paying customer or a subsidized one?
The media has not picked up the ball yet.
I’m betting this is a freebie that we taxpayers are footing the bill on.
PS, I’m very happy the girl is getting her needed treatment.

Who said:

I don’t think the employer mandate will go into effect.
It’s a small part of the law.
I think it will be one of the first things to go.
Health care has to add an additional layer of coverage cheaper than the plans already offered.

You choices:
House Speaker John A. Boehner
Robert Gibbs, former White House press secretary
Nancy Pelosi, former House Speaker
Newt Gingrich, former House Speaker
Dana Perino, former White house press secretary

@Kraken: Liberals get most of their news from comedians. It’s like reading a book without any pictures; unless their news contains a laugh track (and items enhanced for their entertainment) it can’t hold their interest. And items poking fun at His Lordship is not even funny (racism alert).

@This one: this one you so funny

@Ritchie The Riveter: Well, at least there’s an admission that

The GOP or conservatives or baggers or whatever the hell they are these days have done absolutely everything in their power to sabotage it, to insure failure, and have resisted any and all efforts to fix any of it, or even, offer any meaningful solutions to our disaster of a health care system.

They’ve done the same when it came to helping the economy. Both are simply fact. The justification is argumentative.

@Ronald J. Ward: All the Republicans had to do to ensure the failure of Obamacare was to let it go into effect. The only reason it has not been more of a disaster (if that can be imagined) is Obama’s illegal delay or disregard for the parts most harmful to elections.

@Ronald J. Ward: let me say again – you can’t “”fix” what is fundamentally flawed.

The best way to help in such cases, is to do everything in your power to put flawed policy, out of its OUR misery as soon as possible.

And put those promoting it, out of office.

You will continue to see decline, until Progressives realize that they are not omniscient … and therefore shouldn’t be trying to guide the lives of people in excruciating detail via the coercive force of law, in order to jam their socioeconomic morality down the throats of the people.

Stop doing that … and approach our problems with intellectual honesty instead of the simplistic thinking you get through wearing ideological blinders and straining at gnats … honesty that does NOT engage in the self-deception of substituting emotional preference for sound principle … and we will find much common ground.

Progressives – the fundamentalists of the 21st century, with a faith in human omniscience that is far more blind than anything coming out of Jerusalem, Rome, the Himalayas … or even Mecca.

What do you expect from a bill that you must pass to see what’s in it?

Let’s count the number of Republicans who voted for Obama’s Albatross, hmm… that would be zero.

The bill is an unworkable piece of crap, but it’s a Democrat piece of crap.

Why should Republicans bail out the Democrats and their version of a Three Stooges Melodrama; let them ride Obama’s legacy straight into the ash pit of history.

@Ronald J. Ward: mr baggee what you done to your head? mr baggee does this one bag your face and your head

@Skookum: #70

…let them ride Obama’s legacy straight into the ash pit of history.

If we are voting on the issue, I vote FOR IT.

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