Obama melts down


obama not my fault

Maybe it’s jet lag.

Maybe it’s the sleeping pills.

Whatever. Barack Obama has melted down. Reality has slipped his grip like a wet salmon. Obama has always been one to take credit for everything (“I got Bin Laden”) and own everything (“my military”) yet never, ever take responsibility for anything. At his news conference in Sweden he said things that a rational person could never utter.

STEVE HOLLAND, REUTERS: Have you made up your mind whether to take action against Syria whether or not you have a congressional resolution approved? Is a strike needed in order to preserve your credibility for when you set these sort of red lines? And were you able to enlist the support of the prime minister here for support in Syria?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Let me unpack the question. First of all, I didn’t set a red line. The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world’s population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty. Congress set a red line when it indicated that in a piece of legislation titled the Syria Accountability Act that some of the horrendous thing that are happening on the ground there need to be answered for. And so, when I said, in a press conference, that my calculus about what’s happening in Syria would be altered by the use of chemical weapons, which the overwhelming consensus of humanity says is wrong, that wasn’t something I just kind of made up. I didn’t pluck it out of thin air. There was a reason for it. That’s point number one. Point number two, my credibility is not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line. And America and Congress’ credibility is on the line because we give lip service to the notion that these international norms are important.

The world set the red line? Which world is that??? Not this world. Let’s crank up the Wayback machine.



Obama issues Syria a ‘red line’ warning on chemical weapons

“We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus,” Obama said. “That would change my equation. . . . We’re monitoring that situation very carefully. We have put together a range of contingency plans.”

That sounds very much to me like he set a red line.

Obama said Syria does not pose an imminent threat:

“We may not be directly imminently threatened by what’s taking place in a Kosovo or a Syria or a Rawanda in the short-term but our long-term national security will be impacted in a profound way and our humanity’s impacted in a profound way.”

Wait- what? That’s not what he’s been saying.


Again, the Wayback machine:

In a speech at a 2002 anti-war rally, Obama, then an Illinois state senator, conceded that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was “a brutal man,” “a ruthless man,” “a man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.” He noted that the Iraqi dictator “has reeatedly defied U.N. resolutions, thwarted U.N. inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.”

In short, there was no question that “the world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.” Still, Obama said, “Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States.” Hence a U.S. invasion aimed at overthrowing him would be “a dumb war,” “a rash war,” “a war based not on reason but on passion.”

Notably, Saddam’s crimes against his own people included using chemical weapons against Kurds in northern Iraq, a campaign that killed some 5,000 men, women, and children. That murderous assault, in Obama’s view, did not justify U.S. intervention.

Today, by contrast, Obama says a sarin-gas attack that caused about 1,400 of the 100,000 deaths so far in Syria’s civil war demands an American response in the form of missiles aimed at President Bashar al-Assad’s forces. “What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price?” Obama asked in a speech on Saturday. Presumably the same message he was willing to send when he opposed war with Iraq.

And BTW, his credibility is not on the line. Ours is.

“My credibility is not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line and America and Congress’s credibility is on the line because we give lip service to the notion that these international norms are important.”


WASHINGTON (AP) — For more than a week, the White House had been barreling toward imminent military action against Syria. But President Barack Obama’s abrupt decision to instead ask Congress for permission left him with a high-risk gamble that could devastate his credibility if no action is ultimately taken in response to a deadly chemical weapons attack that crossed his own ‘‘red line.’’

The stunning reversal also raises questions about the president’s decisiveness and could embolden leaders in Syria, Iran, North Korea and elsewhere, leaving them with the impression of a U.S. president unwilling to back up his words with actions.

This is astonishing, even for Obama.

Let’s be very clear here. Obama blurted out the “red line” thing. Not the world. Obama put his credibility on the line- not ours. He is now desperate to drag us into something most Americans oppose. I do not believe it has to do with anything other than pulling his ass out of the fire alone. We have seen no compelling evidence for action. He has not made the case to the UN. Speaking which, the UN Secretary General said that any action by the US without UN approval would be illegal.

And that makes things very interesting.

Should the US act alone- is it an illegal act in the eyes of the world? What would that do to our credibility? Would Russia be justified in responding to such an illegality? Would Iran? Would Assad be justified in tossing some munitions at US bases in Iraq?

Hardly anyone supports action right now, especially in the absence of proof and has been posted here and here, there are a lot of doubts.

It is only fair for the rest of us to wallow in the same self-righteous indignation Senator Obama so enjoyed prior to sitting in the big chair.

It’s not so easy, is it?

This is about Obama’s ego more than anything else. I hope that liberals will finally catch on to this charlatan, this empty suit. If it’s the world’s problem, let the world take care of it. If the world set the red line, let them handle it. It can’t be our credibility on the line for something the world did.

It’s time to put on the big boy pants, Barack, and stop blaming everyone else. As you sow, you know….

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@UpChuck.Liberals: #253
Regarding our ‘Community Organizer’ has ‘anyone’ seen that Barry DID ANYTHING even remotely useful….

It depends on which side of the fence you are on. The freeloader side is doing great.

@Redteam: #254

Every person that is guilty of a crime is entitled to a fair trial.

Not in the military after our puppet-and-chief took command. I really believe obama looks at our military as the enemy. Remember how he said he wants a civilian security force that is equally strong, equally powerful, and equally funded as the military? You don’t need a for that big to handle domestic violence, unless you intend to start it. He is doing everything he can to bring down our military, and one way is to demoralize them like he is doing now. Has he ever sided with a soldier? I bet it tears him up to have to put medals on some of them..

@Smorgasbord: #157
Yes, I remember reading about that island. The story was written by a Marine who stood near the edge of the cliff, trying desperately to think of a way that he could approach the villagers, convince them not to jump.
Watching in impotent horror as the women jumped to their deaths, often holding children by the hand, or infants in their arms.
Sadly, there are some things that even a Marine can not do.
This is a religious war, the most virulent and vicious kind of war, and our enemies are already about as motivated, sadistic and merciless as they can get. Their wounded try to kill our medics, they maim and torture their own people as well as any soldiers they capture, and they see uninvolved civilians as legitimate targets.
When you believe yourself to be a faithful follower of Allah, it is easy to convince yourself that anything that you desire, no matter how depraved by civilized standards, is the will of Allah and thus not only acceptable, but commendable.
Their actions will neither get worse, nor better, no matter what we do. The only limit to the horrors of this religious war is the availability of weapons.
May God help us all when Islam gets nukes.

@Smorgasbord: #257
I can not be certain of this (oldtimerz disease) but I believe that news accounts from other than our own MSM were saying that the Taliban was having trouble recruiting, in particular, that the cost of hiring suicide bombers was increasing rapidly, until events in Libya and Egypt gave them new heart. It wasn’t Marines urinating on corpses helping their recruiting as much as it was gutless, appeasing politicians.

@ilovebeeswarzone: #258
As I mentioned before, I have never been in a battle, and don’t know what it is like, or how I would act if I was attacked. I could be the one that looses it and goes out and starts killing the women and children.

This is one reason I say when we go to war, we have three steps:

(1) Go in hard.
(2) Kill the bad guys until the give up, or there isn’t any of them left.
(3) Come home.

I can live with SOME “innocent civilians” being killed instead of loosing our guys when they go door to door to look for the enemy. The sooner we defeat the enemy, the fewer of the “innocent civilians” the enemy kills. We don’t usually hear about the ones they kill.

I’m going to leave it that you have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to mine, but they aren’t the same.

@Petercat: #260

Yes, I remember reading about that island.

Not long ago there was a documentary with a video of the women jumping off the cliff. Some of them holding their children when they jumped.

This is a religious war….

I think those are the worst king. When both sides know they are going to Heaven if they kill enough of the enemy, they don’t have much of an incentive give up, even if they know they will loose.

May God help us all when Islam gets nukes.

What happens if both sides go to the same Heaven when they die? With nukes, there will be a lot more going there.

@Petercat: #261

It wasn’t Marines urinating on corpses helping their recruiting as much as it was gutless, appeasing politicians.

I’m guessing that most conservatives are wondering why obama gave the enemy so much warning time. Has he figured out yet just who is OUR enemy? It’s like a spy movie where we found out when and where we were going to be attacked, and have time to prepare for it.

I have asked many time who’s side people thing obama is on, and this is one good example of how he wants to look like he is serious, but he wants to give his friends as much time and information as they need.

@Petercat: #263
We know that obama has purchased over 3,500,000,000 rounds of ammo, and that the Army doesn’t have that much ammo. Some police departments are running short on ammo. The administration is trying to hide the purchases by having agencies who hardly ever fire a weapon buying hundreds of millions of rounds each. Do we know how many armored vehicles and guns he has bought across the country?

but they are smart enough, to not need punishment because of it,
after they come back from hell, only a talk is enough
they are on a war stage, and they are human doing contrary to who they are meaning killing enemies they know why and they have been given the task to rid the earth of human beast,
whatever, however they do it is not important only the end is,
and they must survived to come back and raise their family and be humanly happy,
no punishment for them on what they did on the war zone, unless they did it to their own,

@ilovebeeswarzone: #267

no punishment for them on what they did on the war zone….

I disagree, but what our soldier did would only be a minor offense that might result in a one rank reduction, or something like that. No jail time or hard punishment needed. Just enough that it would make others think very seriously about doing something like that.

it’s the one taking the picture who should be reprimand,


I saw 4 videos relating it by different sources, they where military warning the people in one of them,
showing the long convoys of armor trucks, it was scary to see it pass on that video,
the other where different but same subject,

@Smorgasbord: #265
“Has he figured out yet just who is OUR enemy?”
The State Department has denied refugee status to white South Africans, statistically the most murdered group in the world. In violation of UN treaties that we have ratified.
(Warning: Graphic description. The part about our role is in the body of the story.)
The Syrian rebels (and fighters from other areas) capture a Christian town and, yep, kill the inhabitants and destroy the churches but Obama says nothing.
Obama may not have figured out who OUR enemies are, but it is clear that he knows who HIS are.

@Smorgasbord: #268
Agree completely.

he said nothing to the brotherhood in EGYPT about the killing of THE COPTIC CHRISTIANS,
he is choosy yes,

@Smorgasbord: #258 And the Muslim side is also.

@Petercat: #272

The Syrian rebels (and fighters from other areas) capture a Christian town and, yep, kill the inhabitants and destroy the churches but Obama says nothing.

Sometimes when a person is silent on an issue, that means they are for what is happening. obama has said he will stand by the Muslims if he needs to. Why is anyone surprised that this is ONE PROMISE HE IS KEEPING? His side is winning in some parts of the world.

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