It’s ironic how events pry open the door to the truth.
A few days ago Barack Obama said it was a “local matter.”
” Our thoughts and prayers go out to Trayvon Martin’s family, but obviously we’re not going to wade into a local law enforcement matter,” Carney said. “I would refer you to the Justice Department and to local law enforcement at this point.”
Sensing the media tsunami building, Barack Obama decided to hang ten:
“If I had a son he would have looked like Treyvon,” Obama said shortly, addressing the victim’s parents. “I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness that this deserves and that we’re going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.”
Earlier this month a 13 year old white boy was attacked and set on fire by several black youths.
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A 13-year-old Kansas City boy is back home after two teenagers poured gasoline on him and lit him on fire.
It happened Tuesday at the teen’s home on Quincy Avenue, just down the street from Kansas City’s East High School. The boy lives less than two blocks away from the school and was walking home when the attack happened.
Melissa Coon said her son turned from the school’s stadium onto Quincy Avenue and noticed two teenagers following him. She said the teens followed her son home and attacked him outside his front door.
“And they rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open,” she said. “(One of them) poured the gasoline, then flicked the Bic, and said, ‘This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy’.”
Barack Obama had nothing to say about that attack.
What happened to Trayvon Martin is a terrible thing and exactly what happened needs to be investigated and justice must follow. But one has to presume that the white boy in Kansas City did not look enough like Barack Obama for the President to weigh in on that atrocity. Or do certain kinds of crimes matter more to Obama than do others? A pattern is emerging. When Henry Gates was arrested Obama declared that the white cop “acted stupidly” without the benefit of any facts. Obama’s Attorney General refers to “my people” instead of “us.” A certain Black Panther voter intimidation conviction is mysteriously dropped. Obama said this incident needs “soul searching” but the Kansas City attack apparently does not.
Someone can explain it to me. I find this disgraceful.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@Becca:
Sorry, Becca, but that statement is completely false. You may want to read a little more here before you go making a blanket statement like that one.
The real story in all this is that the media, with the support and flame-fanning of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the NBPP, and even Obama, grabbed ahold of the story itself and painted a false portrait of the events before any actual facts came out about it.
And people like your black friend are being used by the race hustlers. They have been fed a false narrative of the events that night, and the background of Martin. They have been fed a false narrative on Zimmerman. And it all is meant to direct people to a preconceived conclusion of the events. That is, that a “white” man gunned down an innocent black teenager in cold blood.
You talk about Zimmerman’s story not coming out, but yet it seems that you readily accept that false narrative of Martin the media, with the help of Sharpton, Jackson, and the NBPP, put out on him. It seems that you demand Zimmerman’s story needs to see the light of day, but you don’t want the same for Martin’s true story. Why is that?
Sharpton, Jackson, the NBPP, and even Obama to some degree, are pushing race relations to a breaking point, Becca. And yet, you want to come here and spout off about the people here at FA being racist for simply discussing the case in question and bringing into the discussion certain facts about Martin that the media isn’t, or hasn’t, reported on. Why is that?
I am very comfortable in my own skin, Becca. I am not a racist. Not one little bit. I don’t judge people based on their skin color, Becca. I never have and never will. But it seems that Sharpton, Jackson, and the NBPP have caused your friend to do so.
@Becca:
Really? What race are we Becca? Seriously, what race are we? How can you call us “racist assholes” without even knowing what race we are?
Can you point to any comment which displays “racism”? Can you?
There’s a word for your behavior. It’s called stereotyping. And, yes, you were just complaining about that very thing in your post. That makes you hypocritical too.
Thanks for playing though.
@Becca:
Almost missed this gem:
To me it sounds like the racism is alive and well right within your own home.
Congratulations on that.
@Becca: Becca
I agree with Aye.
You’re offered us a good reason as to why we might think you’re a racist, but one has to wade through that mishmash of a post.
You’ve offered absolutely nothing to support your contention that somehow we’re racists.
Becca
do you agree with the bounty they put on ZIMMERMAN, do you agree with the message to tell the blacks to lynch him and take him dead or alive, is that the justice you agree with? and it come from elected black people, are you not worry about many breakin in that community done by black youths, do you agree with what some black teachers inciting the kids to hurt the few whites in their school to the point of set one on fire,?
while OBAMA keep silent, those event are indirectly but surely all connected with what happened, the blacks are setting what they want to be projected by all their actions in that community, forcing
the leader to ask for a person to patrol the neighborhood, it take a brave men knowing where those crimes
happen, to check, and why did he check? it’s to protect the people of all color and prevent the crimes
to be done by who? well it just happen it was by young black free as birds to scare the community,
just discuss about it, would you live in that neighborhood?
@TSgt Ciz:
@retire05:
The two of you remind me of someone who is very much in the news right now.
His name is George Zimmerman. Perhaps you’ve heard of him.
He, too, assumed the self-appointed role of Sheriff Subdivision…making himself the overzealous decider of who was “suspicious” and who was not. Picking and choosing who belonged in the neighborhood and who did not.
The sheer size of the neighborhood and the transient nature of who resides there vis-a-vis who may have moved in/out makes it completely unrealistic and, perhaps, actually humanly impossible for Zimmerman or anyone else to know who “belonged.” Yet, in the ultimate display of arrogance, Zimmerman made those choices. Over and over and over again Zimmerman called 911 to report “suspicious” characters. What was a common thread that ran through many of those 911 calls? That’s right, skin color.
He, too, thought that the mere virtue of living in the neighborhood gave him the power to analyze and intercept those he came into contact with even when those people were not engaged in anything even remotely illegal and nothing more suspicious than returning from a convenience store (or walking a dog).
He, too, thought it was perfectly fine to approach a fellow private citizen who going about his own personal business in a place he had every right to be in. (Personal business that was no more illegal or suspicious than walking a dog).
Retire05, your attempts to present an anecdotal example in which you were spotted photographing homes perfectly demonstrates my point. The person who saw you taking the pictures didn’t charge up to you and confront/question/interrogate you. No, instead that person called the police department and reported your behavior so that it could be investigated.
Zimmerman, instead of doing what your observer did, chose to stalk this teenager; first by car, and then on foot. Ultimately, they came face to face with horribly tragic results. Did Trayvon Martin ultimately contribute something to his fate? There’s really no way to know for sure.
What we do know for sure is that if Zimmerman had not stalked him, choosing instead to limit his actions to yet another in his series of 911 calls, then Martin would not have been shot that night.
Zimmerman, too, thought he had the right to assume a level of authority over others not granted to him by any law/statute/ordinance. An authority over others only granted to him by his own sheer arrogance.
Yes, the two of you are remarkably similar to George Zimmerman.
Thank you so much for playing along and unwittingly allowing me to clearly and vividly illustrate the point that I wanted to make.
This is a “teachable moment” but somehow I doubt either of you are smart enough to recognize it for what it is.
@Aye – funny thing, you remind me of someone who is prominent in the news as well – Al Sharpton, or even Jesse Jackson.
At least Retire05 and I remind you of an innocent man. Even if the stupid is too thick and sticky on you to be able to see it.
@Aye:
I find your powers of being able to read the mind of George Zimmerman absolutely amazing. You seem to know exactly what he was thinking, at all times. Perhaps you can advise the rest of us on how to develope those powers. And as I said before, you seem to have this case totally figured out, possessing all the facts, and I remain amazed that you have not yet left for Sanford, Florida, to give the PD and the prosecuting attorney the benefit of your wisdom and intellect.
Now, you make the claim that the previous 911 calls that Zimmerman made all had one common denominator; skin color. Would that have been Zimmerman’s skin color, or the color of the people he made the 911 calls over? And, can you please explain to us how you would be privy to the information pertained in those calls since to my knowledge, that has not been made public? If you have a link that gives the details of Zimmerman’s previous 911 calls, I am sure that everyone would be interested in reading it.
Also, you failed to mention one pertinent fact in my story of having the police called on me when I was photographing garages: the fact that the man got in his vehicle and started following me. By your standards, I would have been within my rights to get out of my vehicle, drag him out of his, and start pounding his head into the concrete street. You say the man who followed me (just as Zimmerman followed Martin) didn’t charge up to me and confront/question/interrogate me. Well, news flash, Aye, there is absolutely NO proof that Zimmerman “charged up” to Martin and confronted/questioned/interrogated him. That is pure (and lame) supposition on your part.
I don’t know how many times I have to repeat myself for it to sink into your head. I WAS NOT THERE, YOU WERE NOT THERE, and neither one of us has the capacity to know what either George Zimmerman, or the not-so-much-the-Eagle Scout, Trayvon Martin, were thinking that night of Feb. 26th. You only know what you have read and gleened, just like the rest of us. But you seemingly have developed the ability to channel George Zimmerman and understand what was going through his mind that night so that you can attribute ALL the fault for the incident to him.
TSgt Ciz is correct. You have reached a preconceived determination of the events of that night, and no amount of “let’s wait until it all comes out in the investigation” is going to sate your appetite to try to condemn George Zimmerman. OTOH, I will wait for the investigation to be conducted, the facts to be brought out, and even though they grind slowly, hope the wheels of justice come full circle.
And I have three words for you: Chrystal Gale Magnum
@retire05:
Sigh… the perpetually stoopid are truly infuriating.
Let’s see if I can, once again, unravel your confusion for you.
Straw man arguments won’t gain you any mileage. I never claimed to be able to “read the mind” of Zimmerman or anyone else.
I can, however, analyze a pattern of behavior as well as a set of facts and reach a conclusion based on those things.
Yes, a PDF file of all of Zimmerman’s past 911 calls has been released. Pages and pages and pages and yes, I’ve read them.
If you haven’t seen it then that makes me wonder how many other things you haven’t read relating to this case. If you’re interested in reading it, search for it. I won’t do any more of your homework for you. That stopped with the 7-ELEVEN you claimed didn’t exist and the sidewalk you attested to be a fence.
Omitted due to irrelevance.
Really? Where, precisely, did I set that standard as being acceptable? In fact, quite the opposite is true. My point from the beginning has been that a private citizen has every right to about their daily activities without being challenged or confronted or harassed by any other private citizen.
You’re a liar.
Straw man. I never claimed that Zimmerman did. You’re arguing points that I didn’t make.
Another lie from you. Not once did I “attribute ALL the fault for the incident to him [Zimmerman].”
In fact, if you weren’t so challenged at the basic task of reading you would have seen that I said:
Dayum… Don’t know how much more clear I could be in expressing myself. Even to you.
@Aye:
Obviously you are under the impression that your powers and abilities for expression are greater than they are. But other than being terrible boring, I find you actually harrassing of those who do not see things through the same prism as yourself.
You said that Zimmerman chose to “stalk” Martin, first in his car, and then on foot. On what basis do you use the term “stalking”? Do you think “following” and “stalking” have the same legal defination? Because they don’t. And do you think that with the new information that is coming out, that Zimmerman a) had turned away from Martin to return to his vehicle b) that Martin approached Zimmerman and ask if Zimmerman had a problem to which Zimmerman replied “No” and that at that point Martin punched Zimmerman in the face, that it was still Zimmerman’s fault?
You continue to use the erroneous term “stalking” so let’s take a look at the Florida statute that actually deals with stalking, just so you will cease using a term that is not applicable:
Stalking
Fla. Stat S784.048 Stalking; definitions, penalties (2008)
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Harrass” means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes stubstantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.
(b) “Course of conduct” means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included with the meaning of “course of conduct.” Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.
(c) “Credible threat” means a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause bodily injury to, a person.
(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083
Aye, notice the one requirement for the charge of stalking: repeated acts, repeated incidences. Not one continous event. Are you man enough to admit that your use of the term “stalking” is factually wrong? Somehow, I doubt you are.
Now, if you are not insinuating that Zimmerman did actually “confront/question/interrogate” Martin, why the repeated use of that example since it is moot if it did not happen?
Now, rainman, perhaps you can provide me with the Florida statute that says it is illegal for a resident to follow, NOT STALK, someone who is in their neighborhood and is unknown to the resident?
As to lying, I don’t. But don’t let truth or objectivity get in your way.
Hard Right
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I take this one
@retire05:
Funny thing I noticed about your two most recent replies to me.
There’s not one single attempt to refute any of the factual information or factual analysis I’ve put forward. Not one.
You make some lame attempts here and there to try and stitch together something semi-coherent but, ultimately, you end up doing nothing but filling the space with worthless fluff.
Do you really? Well, good. That means I’m accomplishing something. Toughen up buttercup. And, if you don’t like the things I have to say, well, the Interwebz is a great big place. Get your azz out there and find a place you like better.
On what basis did I use the word “stalk”? Was that your question? I used it on the basis of how that word is defined in the dictionary:
And now for the rest of your drivel:
Well, you know, I’m really glad you brought to that up. Seems that Mr. Zimmerman told the Sanford PD that he was getting back into his SUV when Martin approached him.
If the fight occurred where the SUV was parked as Zimmerman claims then why did the 911 caller state that it was happening in the back yard? The body was found to the right of the sidewalk close to the tree:
If the fight occurred where the SUV was parked as Zimmerman claims, then how did he have grass stains on his back? The street is paved. The SUV was parked in the area where the red car is in this photograph:
There’s a hell of a long distance between where the SUV was parked and where the body was found:
Based on the evidence that has been publicized, Zimmerman’s story has already started to get some big holes in it.
Well, you can make whatever claims you like but when your words are right there for everyone to read and analyze it becomes very plain that you and the truth are oft parted.
@Aye, I wouldn’t say you are a liar. An idiot sure, but not a liar.
For one thing you sure as hell don’t know how to read a map. The distance from Zimmerman’s SUV tot he shooting is approximately 100 to 150 ft. The SUV was parked approximately where the furthest tree in front of the red car is located in the picture, or about where the white truck is parked at the intersection directly across from the condo that the shooting occurred directly behind. The distance is equivalent to: the width of the street, the distance from the front sidewalk to the rear commons sidewalk and a few feet from that. Or, from your street view picture to the white truck. Not far at all.
In fact, from the spot where you say, next to the sidewalk close to the tree, you would have been just 3 steps from being in sight of Zimmerman’s SUV as the nearest parking spot from where you stood without parking in the driveway of the condo you were standing outside of. Meaning Zimmerman walked only as far as needed to be able to see between the condos and not really any further.
But then, how could we expect you to see out from under that thick sticky layer of STOOOOPID.
@ Retire05
I would recommend we not waste out time on this idiot. There is no way to reach the willfully ignorant. It is like trying to explain economics to an Obama supporter, or Foreign policy to a Ron Paul supporter, or forensics to a 9-11 truther, or space flight to a fish.
The truth comes out more and more every day. By late Oct there will no doubt be a HBO movie in which they will portray everything to have happened exactly as Aye imagines it did, which will be proof perfect that it is all BS.
I guess Aye chooses the level of zoom that he does because he doesn’t want people to realize, Zimmerman was actually within sight of his SUV and the same distance as one might walk from their front door to their parked car. It is the same distance as I walk from my front door to my truck every morning.
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=28.793117,-81.329751&spn=0.000549,0.001345&t=h&z=20&lyt=large_map&htll=28.793154,-81.32977
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=375109992521916&id=143928478973403
@Aye:
uh, what you put as the link is incorrect
he sauid he was HEADING BACK TO HIS SUV
not getting into it
@TSgt Ciz:
And your source citation for those claims is where exactly? Seems to me if you had one you would have provided it.
Course you could be just talking out your azz again just like your buddy on this thread.
The more intriguing thing I noticed is that you didn’t even attempt to address the gaping holes in Zimerman’s story. Even by your estimation one of those holes is at least 100 to 150 feet wide.
Considering that this latest screed is coming from a guy who couldn’t even figure out that Martin was legitimately present in the neighborhood I’m not surprised. I know that sussing things out is really tough for you.
@Aye, The easiest source to cite is you. Look at your own map where the star is for Zimmerman’s SUV.
So where did you get that map Aye?
I’m done wasting time with you.
@TSgt Ciz:
Dood…. You really are a dumbazz aren’t you?
You claimed in #302 that the SUV was parked where the white truck is in the photograph. That’s the claim you made. Now, show your source for that. Your point. Your onus.
This is just like the math problems that you struggled so hard with in elementary school. You gotta show your work man. You can’t just scribble an answer on the paper and think it’ll fly.
This is twice I’ve asked for source material to support your claim. From this point forward, I will interpret any lack of clarity or specificity, or a failure to respond at all to the question, as evidence that you CANNOT successfully respond.
@TSgt Ciz:
Judge: On what do you base your argument that George Zimmerman was “stalking” Trayvon Martin, Mr. Aye?
DA Aye: On the “defination” of stalking, your Honor, from the Oxford Dictionary.
Judge: Mr. Aye, the state of Florida has clearly defined the act of “stalking” as outlined in Florida Statute S 784-048. This is a court of law. This is NOT a college English class.
@Aye, you question is already asked and answered dipshit.
YOUR MAP.
Blow it up to full scale and do the analisys to confirm. if you want.
Jabeezus you really are three flushes from a clear headed thought.
If stooopid were a comodity, you’d be listed in the exchange.
Oh wait, I got it.
I would comply with your silly azz request except you have not provided a specific law/regulation/or ordenance that permits me to do research for dumbshits.
Neither have you provided a specific law/regulation/or ordenance that permits you to demand such things of me.
You know, since I’ve told you I’m done with you, your continued harrassment actually fits the Fla definition of “stalking”.
Second and last warning.
I’m done with you.
:~)
@retire05:
Another dry, moldy straw man argument, eh? It’s so obvious what you’re attempting when at no point did I apply the legal definition of the word “stalking”. You tried that same diversionary tactic with Mata earlier. Too bad it didn’t work out well for you.
Your feeble attempts to re-frame the argument when you’re clearly losing ground is hysterical. Thanks for, once again, giving us someone to point and laugh at.
Perhaps you and your pal TSgt Ciz should team up, rub your two brain cells together, and try arrive at some answers to the cumbersome questions and the unwieldy facts that don’t fit your narrative.
@Aye:
Aye, we don’t actually know what Zimmerman said. We only know what a reporter said that a police spokesman said. Zimmmerman may actually have said that he was headed back to his car, not that he was at his car.
Just a thought. The actual police report and Zimmerman’s actual story would help.
@Aye:
I see how it works with you. You want to present your “facts” as if you are lead investigator in this case. But then, when held to a legal standard, as any lead investigator would be, you obfuscate. “Gee, I wasn’t being “legal” here, just giving an opinion on the term I used to describe what I think Mr. Zimmerman did.”
Now, I am, along with TSgt Ciz, through with you. No where have I lobbed perjoratives at you, questioned your intellect, or tried to be insulting in any way. That is NOT a courtesy that you have afforded others.
I suggest you stick to your jewelry making and let actual law enforcement and legal representatives handle this case. Otherwise, for you to continue to sit on your ass, and not go to Sanford to give the police, and the Florida Attorney General the benefit of your investigative prowess and experience, is nothing more than running your mouth.
Again, I am through with you. Take the last word. I am sure your ego mandates it.
@TSgt Ciz:
Oh goody. TSgt Ciz decided to come back. Let’s see if he was able to show his work:
Ummmm…. let me get this straight. Now you’re claiming that the red car and the white truck are parked in the same place? Is that right?
Because earlier you claimed that the SUV was parked about where the white truck is…. I clearly stated that the SUV was parked where the red car is.
So, you chose not to show your work, eh? That’s fine. I knew you wouldn’t have the ability to answer. That’s what happens when you pull things out of your azz and run out to the end of your keyboard.
Hmmmm…. That’s odd. The guy who claims to have the stonz to dash out and challenge an ordinary stranger who deigns walk a dog in his neighborhood doesn’t even have the courage to go toe to toe with me on the Interwebz.
Imagine that.
Having failed to reply with specificity or clarity you have shown that you CANNOT successfully respond.
Give me your mailing address and I’ll have Amazon drop ship one of these to you.
Oh, almost forgot… Thanks for playing.
I think this post is pass his debating options, and won’t bring cool clues, more than the one given out from all the bloggers, but instead will prove the fact of the last desperate action of the one why the gun was needed
to end it all since there was no more options left, because once the blood start to spill and the gun holder waited for it to decide to protect his endanger life,
there is nothing more to debate about. it would have been if he had shot him before being beaten,
Hey Curt… You might wanna take a look at this:
Retire05 claims that she never “lobbed perjoratives at [me], questioned [my] intellect, or tried to be insulting in any way.”
Gosh…someone must be impersonating her on the Interwebz cuz here she is right here on this very thread calling me “rainman.”
Wow… That sure sounds like an “insulting” “pejorative” aimed at “question[ing my] intellect”.
That’s gotta be an impersonator. There’s no way she forgot what she wrote that quickly. I mean, it was just yesterday afternoon when she wrote it.
Course it could be that she’s just a liar and, since I’ve already caught her lying twice…now three times… I know what I believe.
On second thought, there’s not really anything for you to check up on after all. The truth is there for everyone to see.
@ retire05 – Did you really mean to call Aye ‘rainman’?
Why would you complement him like that?
@TSgt Ciz:
If we are to consider that the term “rainman” came from the movie based on the life of Kim Peek, who possessed an eidetic memory, yet suffered from social disfunction, I think the term is applicable.
Nothing like a dose of hypocracy coming from someone who calls others “dumbass” yet whines about being equated to someone who had an eidetic memory.
Allow me to repost this.
1) DO NOT put yourself in a situation where you are likely to have to use lethal force.
Taking a shortcut thru a bad area because you have a gun and can defend yourself is just stupid and asking for trouble. You are expected to try and avoid such situations because you are carrying a gun.
2) DO NOT be confrontational or verbally abusive.
While carrying, even tho I was in the right I have held my tongue and walked away from situations because of the potential for escalation. The police and jury won’t care if the person you shot called you all kinds of names before you shot them. They will care if you went right back at them and made things worse.
3) A gun SHOULD NOT be your only line of defense. Other tools (besides your brain) should be pepper spray, Taser, kuboton, etc.
4) All of the above tools should be employed only after you are unable to disengage/escape from the threat and physical violence against you is immediately imminent.
5) A gun does not make you right or invulnerable.
So for those arguing on tangents saying he broke no laws by following or confronting Trayvon, consider the overall picture and how his actions contributed. I can assure that in court, they will be.
BTW, if Zimmerman is a “white” hispanic, does that make obama a “white African-American”?
Bees, sorry about the lack of response. I turned in early Monday and was at a business meeting all day yesterday.
Hard Right’ thank’s for that,
now may I point out that it is quite impossible to take out, if you do have, your tazer, when you have some one on top of you banging your head on the concrete floor under a rage spell, because the other walk ahead toward him while talking to a cell phone, the last action is to save your life, and shoot him;
is not your life important enough to be save, and are you suppose to wait till you die to react to agression,
or is it when your guts tell you the time has come to know that enough is enough,
and LAYVON HAD THAT GUTS FEELING TO PUT THE OTHER IN DANGEROF DEATH BYE HIS ATTACK
WHEN? WELL JUST WHEN HE WAS JUST FOLLOWED FOR A WHILE,
AND WHEN HE DECIDE TO ATTACK THE MAN TURNING HIS BACK ON HIM TOEND THE WALK TOWARD HIM, LAYVON STILL PURSUE HIS GUTS FEELING TO ATTACK HURT AND POSSIBLY KILL EVEN HE WAS NO MORE IN HIS PERCIEVED DANGER, HE HAD NO WAY TO KNOW WHERE AND AT WHAT POINT THE BEATING WOULD KILL, SAME AS ZIMMERMAN DID NOT KNOW
WHEN THE BEATING WOULD KILL HIM AND DAM SURE FELT IT WAS COMING.
For those keeping count, that’s four lies I’ve caught her in just on this thread.
@Aye:
What lie? That I called you “rainman?” I fully admit to calling you “rainman.”
OK, so you don’t like being called “rainman” although have no problems calling others “stoopid” or “dumbazz”.
You are not “stoopid”, neither was Kim Peek. He did have a personality disorder whereas he did not function well with interaction with others. That seems to fit you to a T. So poor widdle Aye resents being called “rainman” but has no objection to himself calling others “stoopid” and “dumbazz.”
Get back to me when you develope some ability for rational thought, Aye. I have tried to let this go, (this pissing contest you seem to want to engage in) and it seems that some negative personality trait possessed by you does not allow that. Soooooo, have at it. Come back with some more vitriol because others do not see things the way you do. Don that fur coat. I am sure it makes you 10 feet tall and all powerful.
RETIRE05
A NAME POP IN MY MIND
WAS BURT LANCASTER IN RAIN -MAN ?
BYE
DrJohn
the tread is fractured, it’s a bit confusing
I’m on the 50 and it’s not the end of the tread
@ilovebeeswarzone: Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise
I’m on the last groups of the post having been slit in part of 50 comments each, and I am here on the number 50 of this last group,
but there is more comments which came on my mail,
I dunno where they are, is this the end of it all ? CURT
OR WILL THE OTHER COMMENS BE COUNTED IN ANOTHER GROUP OF 50?
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: yeah, changed stuff around so only 50 comments appear at a time, makes the page load faster. gonna tweak it a little so the right number of the comment appears instead of starting over at #1.
CURT
iI JUST FOUND , my comment again by clicking on new comment on the black bar above
on the right. which is the opposit of the old comment situated on the left,
brilliant of you, thank you
it is easyer than TEBOW’S POST WHICH I TOOK THE BIG OODREDS INCLUDING THE LAST GIFT FROM MATA WHICH WAS THE 7OO,
AND i’M ON A ROE HERE WITH THE 200 AND 300, NOT TO BRAGG ME, BUT i’M GOOD AT IT,
DON’T YOU THINK?
BYE
CURT
I see your message now, good
thank you and again brilliant of you.
someone has to see it
and all I have to do is click on the right newer comment
after to come back.
bye
Dive Con
thank you. why do I think there is an older version, with BURT LANCASTER?
MAYBE I MIXED IT.
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone:
No, Rainman was a movie with Dustin Hoffman (playing a fictional character based on the real Kim Peek who was a savant) with Tom Cruse playing Hoffman’s brother.
@retire05:
Sigh… Have you ever been able to read and actually comprehend it? Or did you hit your head at some point and lose the ability?
Nope. Your most recent lie was that I was whining about what you said about me.
Clearly, I wasn’t “whining” as you claim. I was simply pointing out the previous lie you told where you claimed that you hadn’t “lobbed perjoratives at [me], questioned [my] intellect, or tried to be insulting in any way.”
Of course now you say:
Hold on a sec. A few posts back you claimed that you never lobbed pejoratives or tried to be insulting. Huh. Strange how that works, eh?
Ummm…. I didn’t complain about, nor do I resent, what you said. Frankly don’t give a furry rat’s azz about it because I don’t grant you the power to affect me. I simply pointed it out to vividly demonstrate my point about your mendacity.
As you may recall, this isn’t the first time that you and I have gone ’round. It’s also not the first time that I’ve caught you lying about me either. Apparently you didn’t learn anything from the last time.
Why do you continue to make yourself such a stranger to the truth?
Whoa… hold on a sec…..
Let me see if I can stop laughing long enough to get this straight….
You’re claiming that you’ve tried really, really hard “to let this go” but “a negative personality trait possessed by [me]” doesn’t allow you to do that even though you’ve tried really, really tried.
Errr…. Ummmm… How does that work exactly?
Pretzel logic at its’ finest.
Well, Retire, I’m done with you on this thread. I’ve chewed all the flavor out of you and your buddy from Washington State.
Just remember, as I told you before, I’ll be right here waiting to pin your sorry azz to the wall of the FA saloon for all to see each and every time you decide to be dishonest.
You wanna debate, let’s debate. But don’t you dare lie about me.
retire05
thank you for that info, now do you know which movie BURT LANCASTER MADE SIMILAR TO IT, IT WAS A WESTERN MOVIE OF THE OLD TIME ERA, IT HAD TO DO WITH RAIN, BUT THE NAME MUST HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT,
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: LOL
that was “the Rainmaker” and was NOTHING like “Rainman”
@DrJohn:
So what facts came out in the last four days that turned you into the President of the George Zimmerman fanclub? Or is it the President of the “Trayvon had it coming” fanclub, I can’t tell? You know, if someone asked me what’s more predictable, the sun will come up tomorrow, or Dr John will passionately identify with and defend George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, I’d have replied, someday scientist tell us the the sun won’t come up. I can’t think of a sadder thing than to be both wildly inconsistent in one’s principles, yet utterly predictable in one’s actions. On this very site, you’ve raged about Obama “ordering the assassination” of an American citizen, never mind that he was a terrorist, and the “hit” was a military operation overseas, yet George Zimmerman killing an unarmed teenager in cold blood on a public American street you find perfectly acceptable. After all, he had jewelry in his bag! (a black teen with jewelry? Wow!), he dressed like a gangster! (he and millions of other kids his age, including many white ones). Talk about race-baiting. Publishing pictures of a teen with the implicit message, “Look! are you telling me he wasn’t asking for it?” (I also noticed you quietly pulled the pic that was proven a fake.) You think you’re a man with principles, but all you have are predispositions (against Obama, against the Democrats, against “some” teenagers). That’s why you twist like a comical weather vane.
Dive Con
yes you got it, thank you, yes he was a con men in there ,pretending to get the rain coming,
and at the end the rain did come to his own surprise,
bye,