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Tom
you’re spitting that c ZIMMERMAN has kill cold blood , you are a liar dangerous inciting the BLACKS WHO IGNORE AS EVERY ONE, INCLUDING YOU,who is the one with his head knock out from THE OTHER ONE BASHING HIS HEAD AGAINST THE CONCRETE FLOOR, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN LEFT THERE TO DIE, IF HE DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HIS GUN AND SHOOT, TO FREE HIMSELF FROM THAT ONE RESOLUTE TO FINISH THE JOB EVEN SEEING BLOOD AND A BROKEN NOSE ON HIS VICTIM. HIS SAVE HIS LIFE AND YOU AND OTHER WANT TO LYNCH HIM
you cannot fool the people here at least, and you cannot bring anyone here on OBAMA RACE CARD,
THAT’S WHERE IT LIVE , AND YOU SEE THE BOUNTY ON A MAN INJURED FOR WANTING TO PROTECT the BLACK COMMUNITY which many have been rob around the same time this happened,and many of them., wanted help to find the culprits found,

For those who wish to continue to so vigorously defend Zimmerman, I will caution you that a really big piece of information has been released by the Sanford PD. It is very destructive to Zimmerman’s story.

When you watch the video embedded below remember that Zimmerman claims that he was punched in the nose (his attorney claimed that his nose was broken). Zimmerman also claimed to have had cuts on the back of his head.

Roll the tape:

Now, as you watched it did you notice anything odd?

That’s right. There’s not a drop of blood on him anywhere. His nose is not swollen or bloody which it would be if it had been broken

His shirt is clean on the front side and is still neatly tucked in. On the back of his head there are no apparent injuries. No blood on his scalp which is plainly visible.

It appears that Mr. Zimmerman has a big problem.

that was AFTER he had been to medical help

you can NOT conclude ANYTHING from that video

@Aye:

Notice that his nose is not the same color as the rest of him?

Notice the officer checking his fleece and then wiping his hands? Want to guess why?

Notice the officer checking the back of his head? Want to guess why he would do that?

You didn’t see the wound? I sure did and can.

@DiveCon:

Nope.

He declined a trip to the ER that night even though it was offered. He was given basic first aid at the scene but that still doesn’t explain away the lack of blood on his clothing. Nor does it explain his nose not being swollen and bruised consistent with it being broken.

Care to try again?

@Aye:

Police say when they arrived, they found Zimmerman with the injuries. He refused medical treatment, but sought it the next day.

Police Reveal George Zimmerman’s Side of the Trayvon Martin Shooting

@Aye:

Aye, did you notice that the cops put a Caucasian clown nose on Zimmerman just for fun?

Would anyone like to wager some big money that I can’t slam your head into concrete hard enough to make your head bleed and then stop it within an hour?

Anyone?

@drjohn:

Notice that his nose is not the same color as the rest of him?

You’re grasping doc. His nose is not even the slightest bit discolored or swollen. A nose that looks normal is not anywhere near consistent with what a broken nose looks like.

Notice the officer checking his fleece and then wiping his hands? Want to guess why?

My guess would be that the jacket was wet. It was, after all, raining outside.

If there had been blood or other bodily fluids present on the clothing that officer would have donned some latex gloves to keep the fluids off of him. We are, after all, in an era in which blood borne diseases are a major concern.

Notice the officer checking the back of his head? Want to guess why he would do that?

I see the officers giving him a general look see up to, and including, checking his pockets prior to taking him out of the sally port. That’s a routine security procedure done before a person is taken inside. You’ll notice that once they go through that process a signal is given and a third officer joins them.

You didn’t see the wound? I sure did and can.

Sorry doc. You’re seeing what you wish to see. I’ve watched the vid over and over looking for wounds, and other clues, consistent with the types of injuries he’s claiming to have incurred and they are just not there.

Broken noses bleed. A lot. Yet, the front of his shirt is clean. No blood to be seen. His shirt tail is not even pulled out.

Even if he received basic first aid at the scene he would still have blood on his clothing and very obvious wounds in the video.

@Aye:

A nose that looks normal is not anywhere near consistent with what a broken nose looks like.

No offense, Aye, but I likely know a lot more about that than you.

@drjohn:

Sorry doc. You’re seeing what you wish to see. I’ve watched the vid over and over looking for wounds, and other clues, consistent with the types of injuries he’s claiming to have incurred and they are just not there.

I agree. People see what they want to see. So the cop was looking for weapons on the back of Zimmerman’s head, not to see if he was still bleeding.

The police report states clearly that Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and the back of the head. Both can be stopped fairly quickly. The report also clearly states that Zimmerman’s back had grass on it, not grass stains.

And where did the Tea and skittles go? There’s nothing about them in the report.

@drjohn:

You’re nibbling around the fringe issues and failing to get to the heart of the matter.

If Zimmerman’s nose was indeed broken and bloodied, where is the blood on the front of his shirt? If Zimmerman was indeed “sucker punched” by Martin and then there were an ensuing struggle there would be blood present and obvious because the nose thing happened first. Not sure if you have experienced it, but blood tends to splatter and clot and run down get all over everything.

Yet…his shirt is still clean. It’s not stretched or dirty. Heck, it’s still tucked in his pants.

Perhaps the police department made some photographs of him and his alleged wounds which will be revealed at some point.

Zimmerman had sure better hope they did because, so far, nothing has been presented which supports his claim that he was in a life and death struggle.

Obviously, you’re welcome to come to whatever conclusion you wish but when practically every piece of evidence has to massaged, tweaked, or explained away in order to fit your narrative that should be an indication that your examination is not objective.

@Aye:

If Zimmerman’s nose was indeed broken and bloodied, where is the blood on the front of his shirt? If Zimmerman was indeed “sucker punched” by Martin and then there were an ensuing struggle there would be blood present and obvious because the nose thing happened first. Not sure if you have experienced it, but blood tends to splatter and clot and run down get all over everything.

If you get punched and you’re on your back, the blood runs down the side of your face. You claim to like dealing in facts. The police report is clear. The wound is visible. The report says grass on his back, not grass stains. We are nowhere near close enough to determine if there’s blood on his red and black fleece.

Those are the facts.

And my offer is on the table.

@drjohn:

If you get punched and you’re on your back, the blood runs down the side of your face.

Dood…. Zimmerman claims that the altercation STARTED with a punch in the nose. Now, did he lie down on the ground to get punched? Uh…I doubt that very much.

No, the more realistic sequence of events would be that he was punched and then the encounter moved to body to body contact ending up with the two of them struggling with one another on the ground. There are witness accounts which put Zimmerman on top of Martin and others which put Martin on top of Zimmerman. So, what we know for sure is that this encounter, this fight, went on as anyone would expect a fight to go on with a constant flurry of motion and each party gaining/relinquishing the upper hand.

It is inarguable that in the initial sequence of the struggle blood would have been running down his skin and dripping on his clothing. Having followed his skin down his neck, that blood would have ended up on his shirt.

Furthermore as the struggle continued, and while Zimmerman was on his back with his nose bleeding, the blood would be running not only all over his face but also down the back of his throat.

If that were him we hear screaming on the 911 call then the blood from his nose would have been propelled and sprayed forward out of his mouth as he screamed and struggled to catch his breath while fighting for his life.

It is inevitable that the blood would have made its way all over his clothing, including that light colored shirt that is most conspicuously clean.

You claim to like dealing in facts. The police report is clear. The wound is visible.

Yes, the reports are very clear up to, and including a police officer and lead homicide investigator who both wanted Zimmerman charged.

The wound you claim to be visible? No, not so much.

Those, sir, are the facts.

The report says grass on his back, not grass stains.

I don’t believe that I have argued “grass stains” have I? I don’t think so although with the volumes of stuff I’ve typed on this topic perhaps I goofed and typed the word “stains” based on press stories rather than the original police report.

I do know for sure, however, that I haven’t argued that point at all in regard to this video tape so having you bring it up as a rebuttal is more than a bit of a straw man don’t you think?

And my offer is on the table.

What offer would that be?

@Aye:

Dood…. Zimmerman claims that the altercation STARTED with a punch in the nose. Now, did he lie down on the ground to get punched? Uh…I doubt that very much.

Yes it started with a punch and it knocked Zimmerman down.

@Aye:

There are witness accounts which put Zimmerman on top of Martin and others which put Martin on top of Zimmerman.

Love to see them.

It is inarguable that in the initial sequence of the struggle blood would have been running down his skin and dripping on his clothing. Having followed his skin down his neck, that blood would have ended up on his shirt.

Which you could not possibly see from that distance on those clothes with those colors.

Aye, I just saw on another site a possible wound to the back of Zimmerman’s head from the video some are hailing as proof Zimmerman is lying or wasn’t injured.

I saw it on another site before I saw the post here. Ooops.

@Aye: idiot, the blood doesnt GUSH out immediately when you get punched

@Aye: yes, basic first aid was given at the site, you care to try again
moron

btw, isnt “first aid” medical attention?
i never said he went to the hospital or saw a doctor

@DiveCon:

i never said he went to the hospital or saw a doctor

Oh. Okay. I could have sworn it was you who said:

that was AFTER he had been to medical help

You should really scroll up and see what you said before you start calling people names.

Of course, insults seem to be pretty much the depth and breadth of your arguments.

@drjohn:

Which you could not possibly see from that distance on those clothes with those colors.

Okay, okay… you’re just being silly now. For the sake of argument though, here are a few questions for you:

1) What color is blood when it first leaves a cut and makes contact with the air? That’s right. It’s bright red.

2) What color does blood turn as it begins to dry out? That’s right. It turns a really dark red, specifically crimson.

3) Now, what color is the t-shirt Zimmerman is wearing? Yes, you’re right. It’s light grey.

4) Now, if there were dark red dried, or half dried, blood on that shirt don’t you think that it would be clearly and most conspicuously visible considering that it’s a very light shade of grey? Most definitely, and without a doubt. In a video clip from that distance it would appear darker, more of a black color. It would be undeniably obvious nonetheless.

5) What color is the jacket that Zimmerman is wearing? That’s right. It’s red with black shoulders and trim.

6) Is the shade of red in that jacket lighter or darker than dried, or drying, blood? Correct again. The jacket is lighter. Any dried, or drying, blood on the red portion of that jacket would be clearly and undeniably visible.

7) If Zimmerman’s clothing had all this blood on it then why are the police officers touching his clothing with no gloves?

Finally, and perhaps most important:

8 ) Do any of the police department reports that night indicate that Zimmerman’s clothing was stained with blood? No, they don’t. The officers took the time to note that he had blood on his skin but there’s not a thing there about bloody clothing.

@Aye:

You argue that Zimmerman had to have lost half his blood volume. Not me.

Fire and Rescue arrived before 7:30 and almost certainly cleaned him up. Like I said, Aye, I know a lot about blood and injuries.

@drjohn:

You argue that Zimmerman had to have lost half his blood volume. Not me.

That’s another blatant straw man argument doc. Why do you need to stretch and exaggerate and misrepresent what I’ve said?

Oh, I know why. It’s because there simply is no visible blood on his clothing to support his version of events. I know that drives you crazy but, sometimes, the truth takes you to a place you might not want to be.

Fire and Rescue arrived before 7:30 and almost certainly cleaned him up.

The first aid process would not involve “clean[ing] him up.” It would simply involve stopping his bleeding and addresses his most immediate medical needs.

Like I said, Aye, I know a lot about blood and injuries.

As do I sir. Surely you don’t want to dispute which of us “knows” what when it comes to blood and injuries do you?

@Aye: hey dumbass, first aid is medical help
maybe you should contact the red cross and take a first aid class to find out

and you sure have thrown around numerous insults, but you dont like it when you get them back
grow up

@DiveCon:

hey dumbass, first aid is medical help

Never said it wasn’t. Perhaps you should go back and read what I said.

maybe you should contact the red cross and take a first aid class to find out

Did that years ago, but thanks for the advice.

and you sure have thrown around numerous insults, but you dont like it when you get them back

Hmmm… have I insulted you? Didn’t think so.

My general rule is to never hurl the first insult. Thanks for making it clear you’re not interested in a civil conversation though.

It’s always good to know the ground rules.

@Aye: oh, so i have to be directly insulted for it to be you insulting people?
give me a break
i give you what you deserve

@DrJohn:

All I will say is that the “dr” part is for real.

Come on now doc. We both know your specialty.

Furthermore, we both know that it’s not directly related to the Zimmerman matter as we’ve been discussing it.

Aye I’ve asked Dr. J his profession after he asked and received mine, Cricketts
Lead homicide investigator wanted to file manslaughter charge.

@Aye: I’m not sure if you have revised or reversed your position INRE Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries, but you said:

Now, as you watched it did you notice anything odd?

That’s right. There’s not a drop of blood on him anywhere. His nose is not swollen or bloody which it would be if it had been broken

His shirt is clean on the front side and is still neatly tucked in. On the back of his head there are no apparent injuries. No blood on his scalp which is plainly visible.

It appears that Mr. Zimmerman has a big problem.

In light of the fact that so many comments were made to this thread, in may well be that your opinion of Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries has changed, if so, disregard this post.

A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a “closed fracture” of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation. – Source

I think that the MSM’s actions in this case were deplorable. I also think that folks on both sides of the issue jumped to conclusions and the tit-for-tat and arguing ad nauseum on this just soured me on the whole thing. I am not accusing anyone, nor am I making a judgement. I simply posted this to show how deceitful and untruthful the media were about this case.

@Aye:

As do I sir. Surely you don�t want to dispute which of us �knows� what when it comes to blood and injuries do you?

I guess that now we know who knows better.

AYE
hi,
I might have the answer of no blood on his red and black jacket,
I saw a picture taken right after, where he had the blood on his head with a black TSHIRT,
SO, IT MADE ME THINK OF WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT NO TRACES OF BLOOD.
AND ANOTHER FACT ALSO IS THAT HE WAS LAYING DOWN SO NO BLOOD
COULD LEAK DOWN, ON HIS CLOTHES,

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