Beating Barack Obama and ending the damage he can do to this country is one of the most important tasks facing this country. Much to my chagrin, many of my fellow conservatives are all to willing to do Obama’s bidding in taking down Mitt Romney. What does that leave?
Newt Gingrich?
Unlike Mitt Romney, who occasionally beats President Obama in general election poll match ups, Newt Gingrich trails far behind President Obama in every survey. But just how bad are Gingrich’s unfavorable among the general public compared to Obama and Romney?
Not every poll releases their full results, so here are the most recent favorability results I could find for Obama, Romney, and Newt.
Fox News, 1/12-1/14:
Obama, fav/unfav, 51%/46%, +5
Romney, fav/unfav, 45%/38%, +7
Gingrich, fav/unfav, 27%/56%, -29CBS/NYT, 1/12-1/17:
Obama, fav/unfav, 38%/45%, -7
Romney, fav/unfav, 21%/35%, -14
Gingrich, fav/unfav, 17%/49%, -32PPP, 1/13-1/17:
Obama, app/dis, 47%/50%, -3
Romney, fav/unfav, 35%/53%, -18
Gingrich, fav/unfav, 26%/60%, -34America does not love Romney, but boy do they hate Newt.
Electability is the key here. None of us is going to find our ideal candidate. But Newt Gingrich is NOT going to be President. Not ever. He is not temperamentally suited to be President. Between his global warming commercial with Nancy Pelosi his reference to Paul Ryan’s plans as “social engineering” shows that he shoots off his mouth without thinking and does alarmingly stupid things.
Gingrich could be a real force for a campaign but he is never going to be President. He is too polarizing. He is too widely disliked.
Supporting Gingrich is supporting Barack Obama. This isn’t about what I want. This is about reality.
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DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@bbartlog Does anyone know whether it’s normal for a generic Republican to poll better against Obama than any of the actual, specific Republicans? Because that’s what we’re seeing, and I’m trying to figure out whether this is just a normal weirdness of human perception, or whether it’s actual evidence of a weak set of candidates.
The circular firing squad of any one but my guy can win mentality
Stix, I think that national polls are made up of a sampling of Dems/Reps/Indys and generally weighted heavy to the Dems.
In the primaries I always vote for the person I think is the most conservative or at least closest to my issues and ideas. I tihnk everyone should do that and do not look at polls, pundits lr anyone except who they think is the best. We may not agree, but the way this primary is going it is getting insane, Onlt Romeney can beat Obama. BS. Any of the candidates can beat Obama,
In the end I will be behind the person that the GOP picks, and not the one annointed by the powers to be,
Looking at daily polls only reinforce what the pundits and others want you to see. Think for yourself and do not let anyone else effect who you vote for. Even if it is Ron Paul, Santorum, Romney or even Roemer. The vote is yours , not anyone else’s.
I will say I believe that Newt is the best one and I agree with him more than the others, but that does not mean I will not get behind someone else if they win.
I will be happy when this BS of a primary is over, too much idiocy and hard feelings going all around. It is self defeating
@MataHarley One of the reasons I ignore most polls
Too many of you ignore the impact of the Tea Party.
http://broadsidebooks.net/2012/01/21/the-tea-party-slaps-down-mitt-romney-in-south-carolina/
Romney’s campaign ignored the Tea Party while Gingrich reached out to it. Perry dropped and endorsed Newt. The Palins put in a word for him. Newt’s debate validated his status as the anti-establishment candidate. He was the guy who took on the Lame Stream Media and won.
Romney has no hope of gaining traction with the Tea Party movement. He has that giant albatross around his neck called Romneycare. He can’t disavow it without being called a flip-flopper and he can’t get the support of Tea Party folk until he does. Classic Catch-22.
The inside-the-beltway people don’t understand the Tea Party or its motivation. If there is white-hot anger at what Obama has done to the country, there is red-hot anger at the failure of the Republicans WE put in office to fight back. We don’t want the establishment ramming yet another RINO candidate down our throats. We want a conservative. Newt is articulating conservative values. When he talks about kids working as janitors, he is striking a chord with us. We all started out doing entry level jobs. My wife cleaned bathrooms and took out trash. I worked on a road crew clearing culverts.
According to the pre-election polls, Romney won the South Carolina primary. Except, he lost to Gingrich in a landslide in the actual election, which is the most important poll of all.
Maybe we should run Generic Republican against Obama. I imagine he looks sort of generic, like the Stay Puft marshmallow man.
A chia pet could beat Obama unless we screw it up.
Richard Wheeler, there is no way I can’t get the position she is a very beautiful person, and poise too, with a quite smile for all, she can take the role of FIRST LADY, It’s okay,
bye
Anyone remember the “daisy” commercial, ran against Goldwater in 1960? I’m old enough to remember the actual commercial.
On ABC’s “This Week” today, I think it was George Will who wondered out loud about Gingrich having his excitable hand on the nuclear trigger.
in the context of:
I think that Newt is vulnerable on a lot of issues. George Will also said today that Obama is “innoculated” against traditional GOP charges of Democratic weakness on defense. Obama could actually present himself as the candidate most capable of keeping America safe in the world. Steely cool. Takes the time to examine all sides of the issue (remember “dithering?”). Ultimately willing to overrule his defense advisors (Seal 6 instead of a missile strike to take out Bin Laden) and merciless in the goal of decimating Al Qaeda. So he’s not your typical Democratic wimpy appeaser.
Independent are nauseated by the atmosphere of hyperpolarized nastiness.
So I think that the image of a hot headed fighter may not play out so well, in the general election.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA
AQUA
hi,
I like your comment on 7 and the quote of the STATUE OF LIBERTY,
I wonder when there is hardships in a COUNTRY SUCH AS THE USA, OR CANADA , BY THE PEOPLE WITH ROOTS IN DEEP IN THE GROUND, NO JOBS TO BE FOUND BY THEM, WHILE THEY SEE FOREIGNERS WORKING MERRILY IN THEIR PLACE, ALSO BUYING THEIR HOUSES BECAUSE THE LOCALS CANNOT SUBSIST ANY LONGER,
I wonder how much more to be let in, the COUNTRY, WHICH WAY TO CALCULATE THERE IS ENOUGH CITIZENS IN THE COUNTRY FOR A WHILE AND TO BE REEVALUATE LATER WHEN THINGS ARE GOOD FOR THE EXISTING PEOPLE, WHEN THEY ARE WORKING AND HAPPY ENOUGH TO FEEL LIKE EXPANDING THEIR SPACES, OH WAIT
IS THERE SOME SPACE LEFT FOR THEM TO EXPAND.WHEN THEY ARE READY IN THE YEARS TO COME,
BYE
openid.aol.com/runnswim
you cannot say that of GINGRICH UNLESS YOU BRING OBAMA ANGER REACTIONS THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS AFTER BEBE FROM ISRAEL SPOKE ON PUBLIC FORUM FOR THE NATION AFTER OBAMA SPEECH ASKING HIM TO LET GO LANDS THEY OWN. GIVING HIM A TIME FOR IT,
HE HAS VIOLENT REACTIONS THAT WHERE TOLD BY SOME CLOSE TO HIM, SO HOW ABOUT HIM DECIDING WITHOUT CONSULTING CONGRESS ON LIBYA LEADER TO STEP OUT; ON EGYPT ALLY TO STEP OUT, THOSE ARE UNCONTROLED CHARACTER FLAWS,
MAKING HIM DANGEROUS MUCH MORE,
SO GET OFF NEWT, HE CAN CONTROL HIS REACTIONS, HE KNOWS WHEN TO STOP TALKING, HE DID SHOW IT PUBLICLY., HE WAS IN GOVERNMENT BEFORE, HE HAS DISCIPLINE ENOUGH TO DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD FOR AMERICA,, NOT ON A SPUR LIKE A SPOIL BRAT HE’S NOT,
@Larry, number 63:
You said:
So what you are saying is that he will lie.
Wow, I never thought of that. /sarc
@WmTSherman: ‘According to the pre-election polls, Romney won the South Carolina primary. Except, he lost to Gingrich in a landslide in the actual election, which is the most important poll of all.’
Nah, the polls clearly showed Gingrich overtaking Romney in the last few days (Jan 18 thru Jan 20… look at the RealClearPolitics moving average). Now granted if you’re not a political junkie and you only look at the polls every week or so, I can see how you would have that impression.
anticsrocks
hi,
this is a blatant attack on NEWT TO MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE HE HAS NO SELF DISCIPLINED, . IT IS STARTED AND WILL GO ON TILL THE ELECTION,
NEWT EXPECT IT AND I’M SURE HE WILL PREVAILED THOSE SNEAKY VICIOUS ATTACKS.
BYE
Well Beezy, I certainly hope you are right. Newt has run a pretty good campaign, with his only two missteps in my opinion were the blasting of Paul Ryan’s budget and his attack on Romney about Bain capital.
The good thing about Newt is that he bounces back pretty quick.
anticsrocks
hi, he was attack by the ROMNEY, SO HE DEFENDED HIMSELF, FAIR GAME, AS ROMNEY HAD ALL THE MONEY TO PUT ON THE ATTACKS, I’M GLAD THE SOUTH CAROLINE FIX IT UP SO HE WIN THE VOTES,
I find him pretty cool, he could have be meaner than that, and now the other side will try to attack on his very best tool to repel attack, by saying he might not be able to control himself on IRAN. HOW LOW CAN THEY GET..
we will have to be alert to take them on as they come.
BYE
We keep hearing Romney should be our choice. In the three elections, the non Romney vote is significant. Anybody but Romney is the message being sent by the conservatives in the party. Want to lose. Nominate romney and have the energy evaporate from the entire election process. Force Romeny down our throats and watch a third party emerge. Republicans had the power and even they admit they screwed the pooch. The tea party gave them life and one more chance. We do not want Romney fools. If there is any message being sent, that is the one. Stop supporting him unless you want to kill the party. Why are those establishment republicans on the same page with the elite media? That says a lot.
Larry, INRE #63…. ????? That’s some pretty selective revisionist history ya got there, guy.
That’s funny. I remember Obama not dithering and signing on to some non-existent NATO “humanitarian mission” on the advice of his three womenfolk… none of them his defense advisors (you can double post this one in the supposedly wonderful trait of “over ruling” his military advisors too…).
I also remember Obama not dithering and racing to the POTUS dais to call for Arab foreign leaders in Egypt, Libya and Yemen to resign, while ignoring Iran’s Ahmadinejad and Syria’s Assad). Of course he didn’t dither when he decided to tell Honduras they had to allow for the Constitutionally exiled President to return.
He didn’t dither when he decided to kill the missile defense system.
I do remember Obama dithering on lending encouragement and internal support to the Iranians rebelling in the streets while, again, NOT calling on Ahmadinejad to resign. He only meddles with “allies”. He dithered on sending surge troops to Afghanistan before finally not sending the amount the commanders wanted.
And while you think “dithering” is “steely cool”, your western culture prohibits you from recognizing that dithering is a sign of weakness to our enemies and Euro allies. Hang, even the liberal LA Times knows this.
Me? I see dithering as dangerous indecision… generally done as a delay until he sees what political effect it will have on him and his approval ratings.
BTW, I might also remind you that all the major terrorist attacks while Obama has been in office have either not been detected at all by his agencies, or been detected and ignored, and have been stopped by alerts citizens and not the federal agencies. Somehow I’m not buying that observation that Obama is “keeping America safe”. He and his appointees have been embarrassingly inept.
Yes I’ll agree with that. He certainly does like to overrule, if not ignore his military advisers in favor of three women folk… Hillary, Rice and Jarrett. Kind of amusing you find that appealing. I find it amazingly foolhardy.
But the Seal 6 mission was not one of those “over ruled” missions. It was a “dither” moment tho, since he decided to sleep on it, so to speak.
The military proposed the plan options, and the military advice was not to use the stealth chopper technology. Had he “over ruled” his advisers, he wouldn’t have done the mission at all… which was Jarrett’s advice. But you must be confusing the players of the story which had the military advisers and Panetta over ruling Obama.
But he sure didn’t “dither” in racing to the media to gloat about the SEALS, thereby endangering their lives and prohibiting any productive use of the intel they got from the compound.
duh
But he did over rule military advisers with the Afghan surge.
He over ruled the warning of an announced withdrawal date.
And he most certainly over ruled their advice on the number of troops needed for the surge.
He over ruled his military advisers that said do not meddle in Libya.
One might also say he over ruled the military, requesting him to pressure Iraq into extended SOFA terms. Guess that diplomatic ability was above his pay grade.
Hey, as CiC, that’s in his power to do. But you will not find me giving him any thumbs up for his overall performance.
uh mmmmmm, yea … to the detriment of destroying our relationship with Pakistan, who is now looking in other directions (like Russia/China) with their inevitable leadership change coming up. You drop as many drones as Obama has on another nation – without their permissions – and you’re bound to kill some bad guys. Pakistanis aren’t too thrilled they are killing innocents and their own military at the same time.
Yeah… real bright. Get some bad guys and lose future intel and diplomatic relations. That’s a pretty ugly trade off.
Now why would you actually characterize Dems and Dem POTUS like that? Dems and this POTUS in particular are only wimpy with our enemies during times of relative peace, and tend to fight wars with one hand tied behind our backs when they get us into them. As history shows, Democrats really do like to start wars. They just don’t have the patience to win them. (WWII excepted, of course… FDR started it, Truman ended it)
On the flip side, this POTUS tends to be aggressive only with our allies.
I believe what we’ve established is that if there is a prize for stupidity by a CiC in both warfare decisions and foreign policy, Obama wins it hands down. He’s pretty much done a clean sweep in alienating all US allies in the ME and Asia by bad decisions, excessive and unilateral drone warfare, political meddling, all while giving the real bad guy leaders in the same region wide berth.
It’s easy to bully your allies, Larry.
Surely you’ve been around enough to know that the strategy between primary and general elections campaigns are not the same. Considering that Newt served in the House for 20 years, I’d say the guy knows how to win an election.
Since you’ll be voting for Obama, unless you can get the GOP to offer up Mitt “Obama’lite” Romney, I doubt he’ll be catering his campaign to those of your political leanings, Larry. But I’m sure he appreciates the advice… /sarc
I know Beezy. I was just saying that those were his flubs on the campaign trail.
anticsrocks
yes I understood, I know you’re good to analyze campaign , I notice that before,
bye
Gingrich has my vote…. unless something better comes along…. oh wait…. this is all there is … go NEWT 2012
I enjoyed this thread so much that I e-mailed it to Newt’s campaign headquarters knowing they will be pleased with the quality intellect of some of our commenters and one host in particular. We must share!
@Larry
Yeah – they should do a commercial with Newt in a bad temper playing with the nuke button after a summit where he feels he has been snubbed by President Putin. I mean if he’s the sort of guy who can shut the US down partly because he was snubbed by Clinton during a flight – then how much further does his mercurial temperament go and his inability to seperate personal snub & his ego with what’s best for a superpower nation and all it’s people.
@ Gaffa You said:
You mean like when Obama snubbed the UK on his first day in office, by shipping back the bust of Winston Churchill that was in the Oval Office?
Or do you mean the time he got his feelings hurt and walked out on Netanyahu?
Or do you mean the time he got embarrassed to have the Dali Lama over, so he instructed his staff to bring the DL in through a back door, next to bags of garbage?
Or do you…nvm, I could go on for hours if I were to mention all the times Obie got his feelings hurt and lashed out at someone.
Ms. Bees #64:
I refuse to believe that Ms. Bees. America is still the land of opportunity. If the government will get its foot off the throat of the people, we can do anything. The opportunities in this country are boundless unless the government gets involved. My wife was born in Mexico and is now a US citizen. I know a lot of people in the Hispanic community. Most are incredibly innovative and hard workers. I’m sure there are some that need to be deported immediately. But there are some I would much rather have here than some people that are born here. People born in the US have no idea how great they have it. Even when I was in the Air Force, I was given the opportunity to learn as much as I wanted for as long as I wanted. There were no limits. Not everyone took advantage of that. I would say to anyone that begrudges immigration that they should take advantage of the opportunities this country has to offer, or get out of the way so someone else can.
I am 100% on board with making sure our borders are secure. This is to make sure people that wish to hurt us can not get in, not to keep people out that want to be free. Our immigration policy needs to be fixed. If people want in, we should let them in. No free rides though. If you can’t make it, go home. And contrary to popular belief, that is how it works now, only much slower. You are not allowed to go on welfare or receive food stamps. Even their sponsors are not allowed to receive welfare or food stamps or it will affect the application process. Sponsors sign an affidavit of support.
I am also a supporter of abolishing the anchor baby law. I don’t sneaking into this country and popping out a kid entitles that child to be a US citizen. We need to fix a lot of laws. And I agree with those that say we should fix the laws first and then decide how to deal with the illegals that are here. I would support a great many of them paying a fine and then working their way through the legalization process.
This is a whole other discussion and I don’t want to thread-jack the topic.
Newt is going to win Florida unless he complete implodes…..again. But I think Perry dropping out has solidified the support for Newt. I know Perry wasn’t doing well in the polls, but there were a lot of people hoping he would pick back up. With him out, Newt is our only hope to draw a distinction between big government and small government. If he becomes president though, he’ll probably be primaried.
And how come HTML tags don’t work?
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Use the editor buttons instead. There is a link button on the second row Aqua
Just to add to Curt’s advice, Aqua… if you’re used to working in HTML like I am, you’ll notice the two tabs at the comment field’s top left. One says “visual”, the one to the right says “HTML”. If you prefer to work in the HTML version, just click on that tab and you’re good to go.
@anticsrocks
The problem is that Ellen Degeneres likes Obama and doesn’t like Newt.
Aqua
thank you, that was super right, and I take that the immigration agency must be returned to the previous true MEANING from the CONSTITUTION LAWS, WHERE JUST NOT ALL DESERVE TO BECOME AMERICANS, BUT ONLY THOSE WITH THE DESIRE TO SHARE THE BURDEN NOT CREATE IT, AS WELL AS THEY DO FOR THE FREEDOM, WHICH IS THERE TO SHARE , NOT TO TAKE AWAY.
BYE
Gaffa, I suspect you also believe the story about the Princess and the Pea.
The whole fiasco was due to budget cuts in social programs. Clinton’s numbers were going down in that budget battle until Senator Dole flinched. The government shut down twice due to Clinton’s budget veto. The first shutdown lasted five days until a continuing resolution was voted on and passed which required assistance from the SPEAKER. The second shutdown lasted two weeks until the man without a backbone, Senator Dole, gave in. Then the press went off on their normal tangent of spinning, not reporting and, Clinton’s numbers went back up and the Republican establishment gave us presidential candidate Dole because they bought the beat up Newt crap.
Your story is a lefty myth.
@Aqua: ‘Newt is our only hope to draw a distinction between big government and small government.’
Well, I still prefer Ron Paul for that. Gingrich is OK on entitlements but doesn’t otherwise seem to have much skepticism about the role of government in people’s lives.
‘And how come HTML tags don’t work?’
Looks like things got updated and some things got broken. For me ‘Active Discussions’ shows a page from yesterday, and the ‘Reply’ link on the posts doesn’t work.
I find it funny, in a way that the progressives are doing the briar patch bit again, in telling us that they fear going up against Romney, when he is the candidate they would prefer- he is just a white Obama, and if elected, the destruction of America would continue.
Who we need is someone that can convince the voters that he will break the back of the progressive march against the Constitution, and that person is more likely Gingrich than Romney.
The fact that both Dems, AND Republicans dislike him is actually a selling point to me, progressince there have been more progressive Repubs than ever,and that means no real change, in my opinion.
Blake
does it bring the possibility that NEWT could take RON PAUL as VP, and SARAH PALIN AS IN CHARGE OF THE AGENCIES GOVERNMENTAL TO IMPLEMENT INTITLEMENT TO THEM.
BYE
DrJOHN
WHY IN HELL DID YOU WRITE A HATE INCITING POST, NOW YOU SEE THE RESULTS,
NOW WE HAVE TO PROVE YOU WRONG’
Polls at this point mean very little.
The fact is, Barack Obama prays every night to whatever gods he doesn’t believe in that Mitt Romney will win the Republican nomination. Obama can’t run on his actual record, which is a failure. In order to win re-election, he needs to make the case that the Republicans are even scarier than he is. He will do that by calling Republicans the servants of the 1% fat cats who caused the economic collapse while getting rich themselves. He will also call them racists and frightening, uncontrollable religious fanatics.
Romney is the Poster Boy for the 2012 DNC re-election campaign. One-percent income? Check. Fat cat elistist? Check. Racist? Religious fanatic? Romney represents a religious cult that was openly racist as recently as the 1970s.
The notion that Romney is electable comes from the mainstream press, and from polls that measure peoples’ reactions to a name BEFORE any campaigning or attack ads have exposed the candidate to the public. Romney excites nobody, not even moderates. He’s a milquetoast candidate. He has hardly ever won anything. Nominating Romney is the surest way to get a rerun of 2008.
I saw today where Newt is 2 points behind obama in a head to head election. This is before Newt savages him in debates. Newt not electable? Normally that may be the case. However, these are not normal times.
Let’s also keep in mind a lot of people don’t remember him all that well.
Hard Right
I like the way you said it,, and the truth is; you cannot believe what OBAMA SAY,
but you can believe what NEWT TELL YOU, HE IS NO BULLSHITER.
Hard right #90 adds 2 great Newt slogans Vote Newt “Normally unelectable,but these are not normal times”
Newt For Prez. ‘We’ve forgotten what he did,” Also
Vote Newt “So commited to marraige he can’t stop doing it” lol Bees favorite Vote Newt “He’s No Bullshitter’
VOTE NEWT TO EXPOSE THE IMPOSTER.
Who saw uber-Conserv. Ann Coulter on O’Reilly saying Gingrich would lose to Obama in a “landslide of epoch proportions” She says “i hate him” AND Callista could “never be First Lady”.Scathing diatribe that had Bill O on his heels..
Richard Wheeler
don’t worry, CALLISTA IS MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN HER,
and she has class, she would make a great first lady
@MataHarley
Awesome. I dream in code, so that works for me. Thank you both.
LOL! Well, Aqua, my dreams of HTML are more nightmares. But I’m so used to doing it that the shortcuts always screw me up. So I always just use the HTML option.
It is just so clunky to not be able to hit the reply button.
@Anticrocks
Did Obama moving a bust, or him saying his was going to put his daughters to bed (although they were in New York at the time), or the Dalai Lama going through the backdoor result in the US being shut down causing over $700 million dollars to be lost? No I didn’t think so.
@Missy
Who said the following….
“This is petty. You’ve been on the plane for 25 hours and nobody has talked to you and they ask you to get off the plane by the back ramp. … You just wonder, where is their sense of manners? Where is their sense of courtesy? That snub, was part of why you ended up with us sending down a tougher continuing resolution.”
A) The Princess
B) The Pea
C) Newt Gingrich
Next you’ll be telling me that Newt Gingrich hasn’t kited his checks in the past and if he did it was all the fault of the media. lol
Sorry, guys
RCP
Does this poll mean anyting about NOV? NO.
If you follow polls everyday you will go insane. The MSM have a narrative that is played off of faulty polling that any Republican will loose to Pbama by polling more heavily Democrats. Garbage In Garbage Out
@Stix
Hope you’re right, but this is Rasmussen we’re talking about, and Rasmussen had the most accurate polling for the last election.
Yes and we are 8 months out, and anyhing can happen in between now and NOV. The economy will not rebound, unless there is a miracle, Unemployment will still be high, Pbama will still be arrogant and there will be a fight to get the economy growing again.
As Obama said:
As I said before we could probably put up a chia pet against him. He has made the economy worse and has no clue on how to get it going again. And is trying to still pay off his union buddies with Porkulus. But he just pissed off a lot of unions member ith the decline of the Pipeline. The unions lost a lot of good paying jobs with that Yesterday someone called into Rush and said he was voting for anyone running against Obama because of the Pipeline deal. More will come
that is unless we take the MSM narrative and loose it because they say we cannot win
Gaffa
First of all, do you have a link showing the $700 million supposedly lost?
Secondly you never had a problem with Obama spending ONE TRILLION dollars on his failed stimulus package, but you worry over a supposed $700 million. You truly are the king of cherry picking.
Thirdly, you obviously have no idea how our government works. When it gets “shut down” all that means is that non-essential services are temporarily halted. Things like national parks, museums, etc…
Lastly I never said anything about his daughters…
Lets see, the biggest fear people have is that obama will get re-elected, but Newt can’t beat him? If the economy was good, they would be right. They want a change…badly.
So drj, I’m getting worried about you, calling the game in the first inning. Are you channeling Coulter these days, and do we need to get you an exorcist? Or are you on the Romney payroll, attempting to influence our choices with promises of doom and gloom that have no bearing in reality at this stage?
A pundit made a very wise observation the other day… and that the first tests of what conservatives/Republicans want came with SC, and will continue somewhat with Florida. The reason? IA has been a Democrat voting state, with one exception… Bush barely (and I do mean BARELY) eked out a win over Kerry in 2004. NH is another solid blue state.
So what the IA/NH blue state voters want doesn’t much matter since those states are still likely to go for Obama, regardless of who the nominee is.
SC and Florida are red states (or red most of the time). When you want to know who conservatives/Republicans want, do you ask the blue states to pick your candidate, knowing the chances of them turning the state are pretty much a pipe dream? Or do you really want to pay attention the red states, most especially swing, who you firmly want in your camp?
Speaking of polls, ain’t lookin’ good for your bud Romney as of yesterday and today’s latest polls in FL. Romney, who was 24 point ups on Newt Jan 18th, is now down below Newt 5-9 points in all FL polling. Additionally, Newt is now up 4 points in the Gallup national poll as well. It’s called momentum.
But momentum is a funny thing, and it may yet sway again. Who knows. But it does get a bit annoying when establishment type Republicans insist on throwing up national polls (which include Dems heavily weighted in the sampling), attempting to scare people away from voting their choice.
I’m not sure what you expect when you include heavily weighted Dems in a national poll. Don’t much pay attention to those myself. After all, the Presidential election is a state election, not a national election.
Decisions for nominees need to be based on campaigning and debates, and how they feel they would fare in the needed agenda change. This is a moment to be celebrated…. the conservatives/Republicans in red states are speaking loudly on not having a fake RINO as a candidate again. Because obviously many of us see a RINO candidate as a loss, even if he’s established in the WH.
Gaffa, you do not absorb information well. You are trying to blame the budget battles and shut down on the government on Newt’s “in part” comment above.
???
Let’s try laying on the facts again, and hope that it doesn’t whistle, with the wind, thru your ears one more time: Only a majority vote in the chambers can result in the stalemate, causing the shut down. A single member cannot do squat without the majority in tow.
Of course Newt found Clinton’s treatment extraordinarily rude and disrespectful – it was. But since a large majority of the House membership didn’t like Newt, why the heck would they vote to shut down the government to support a guy they didn’t like?
So for your charge of being petty to hold any water whatsoever, it would require the majority of House members being just as petty.
Imagine Clinton’s chagrin to be in office only two years with the usual, run of the mill, all Democrat control of both chambers… then faced with an opposition party in control for the first time in decades. Clinton did not start out playing well with others…
Newt referred to that plane flight event as an example of Clinton’s utter disrespect for the majority Republicans and their issues… ergo why that disrespect led to the shut down. Clinton and the Dems were used to getting their way. Not up against that Congress under Speaker Newt. The best he could get was compromise… which was exactly what Reagan did with his Dem controlled Congress.
Wish this Congress/House/Speaker had the balls to do the same. .. holding the debt ceiling hostage for needed budget issues.
@John Cooper:
@bbartlog:
@anticsrocks:
The reply button works, just have to make sure you are in the HTML mode of the comment box prior to clicking the reply button