Tim Tebow’s devotion to his religious beliefs is nothing new, but you’d never know it based on what the media is doing to him.
At HuffPo:
Drudge:
Love him. Doubt him. Praise him. Ridicule him. Gape in awe. As the last two months have shown, there are 300 million opinions of the Broncos’ quarterback, and every one of them is right
SNL mocks him for his religious devotion.
And of course there is the incomparably disgusting and idiotic Bill Maher:
A “Tebowing.com” site has been created. The cynic in me has doubts about its intentions, especially based on Jared Kleinstein’s own words:
After the dramatic win, Denver native Jared Kleinstein and several friends snapped a picture of themselves in the same pose that Tebow took after the game. They dubbed the action “Tebowing” and posted their picture on Facebook. After the pic generated an unexpected number of likes and comments, the 24-year-old Kleinstein launching a website dedicated to Tebowing.
The site sells Tebow gear which allegedly supports local charities. I have an email to the site asking exactly how much of their sales actually goes to charity.
One might to be tempted to think Tebow’s acts are unique, but they are not.
Albert Pujols
Cris Carter
Bobby Bonds
Watch carefully during the baseball season and see how many players cross themselves as they come to bat. See how many point skyward after something positive. Watch during a football game and see how many players take a knee after a score.
Tebow speaks openly about his religion, but he does not proselytize. So why is he such a target for liberals?
It is because he is white and Christian. There’s no way Maher or any of the other twits critical of Tebow would cast insults if Tebow was Muslim.
Tim Tebow created a charity foundation that works in part to grant the wishes of children with life-threatening illnesses. He spent his signing bonus on charity donations. He spends the off-season doing charity work in the Philippines. You can get a sense of his other efforts here.
Bill Maher, on the other hand, has spent his time boosting his net worth to $23 million. His good works know no limits. Maher has donated an item for auction to benefit “Save the Chimps.”
Tebow is not to be derided- he is to be admired. By all accounts he is a great person.
So they all ought to get off his back- especially Maher. Maher is a perfect example of what’s wrong with the liberal culture. He’s pompously vulgar and disrespectful while spitting all over the likes of Tim Tebow and all that’s right with America.
Hitchens was right:
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Maher fans are morons.
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DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
i may be guilt of assumption…but i’ve still only heard one response (Hard Right) about why he “likes” Tebow. i’m assuming he/she also has a list of other people who appear to be “nice guys”. i’m certain, as well, that more than a handful of them are non-Christians.
i’ve spent the past hour or so skimming over some of the diction, hate speak, and religious rhetoric on this site. i find it comical that you accuse me of attempting to put “hate” in your mouthes. it’s already there. i didn’t need to do anything. the one-sided and often hateful banter posted here is deplorable.
i stand by my argument. hypocricy and intolerance is idiotic…especially when you stand on your soapbox and sing the cries of a martyr.
and for the record…i am atheist and proud.
maybe i did “assume”…but nobody has stepped forward to prove me wrong.
@C Andrew Scott:
Actually, it was your argument.
This was never a discussion about his abilities as an NFL quarterback. The world would be a much better place if there were millions more Tim Tebow’s.
Maher and the left despise Tebow precisely because Tebow is what’s right with America.
@C Andrew Scott:
My post contains a significant amount of text devoted to what a good guy Tebow is. He is persecuted because he is white and Christian.
Period.
I’d LOVE for you to show me Maher deriding Muslims for their public devotionals. I’d LOVE for you to show me Maher insulting blacks or hispanics for their public devotionals.
Personally, I don’t give a rip who does what as long as they really walk the walk.
@C Andrew Scott:
Now you demand we prove the negative. You can prove to me that anyone here asserted that Tebow was a great guy simply because of his religion.
That was your fabrication.
As far as hate speech goes, I would love to see some examples as claimed.
@drjohn: WRONG! and this is EXACTLY what i’m talking about.
“the left despise Tebow precisely because Tebow is what’s right with America” no. not at all. what i “despise’ about Tebow is that he went to be with a known “hate group” and discretely supported an organization that is out to infringe the rights and freedoms of Americans who do not agree with them. (i am “anti-abortion” but i will always vote “pro-choice” because i believe that ALL people have rights…not just those who agree with my agenda).
“The world would be a much better place if there were millions more Tim Tebow’s.”
again…you only make this statement because Tebow is Christian. is Tebow a “good guy”? i don’t know. i don’t know him personally. do you know him personally? apparently…millions of Americans know him personally and feel just in defending him and making ignorant statements like these. are there plenty of OTHER men and women out there who deserve MORE praise and publicity? certainly…but you won’t list them, because they don’t agree with your platform.
YOU perceive that Tebow exemplifies “what is right” in America…ONLY because he is Christian.
i stand by my opinion.
@drjohn: the argument was made that Tebow is being attacked because he is “white” and “Christian”
i argue that he is only being “supported” because he is “Christian”
i asked ANYONE in this room to provide me with a name of someone else they would supoort “standing up for their beliefs” that was NOT Christian.
it’s ok. you don’t need to answer me. you’ve all proved my point.
p.s. Maher has bashed ALL religions. do your research.
No, because he’s a good guy who is also Christian. Seriously, you have some issues there.
@Hard Right: to quote Mahatma Gandhi: “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
i do not have a problem with Tebow for being Christian. i do not have a problem with Tebow standing up for what he believes. i DO have a problem with his desire to use football as a platform and street corner for him to share his views with the world. and i DO have a problem with the Christian army that has cried foul anyone who questions him.
you have made it clear that you like him because he’s “a good guy who is also Christian”
i’ll stand by my opinion still. do you know who Scott Fujita is? he’s a really good guy. he plays football. he volunteers. he makes large charitable donations. and…he supports gay marriage.
would you also applaud him for standing up for what he believes?
@C Andrew Scott: This us not about bashing religions. It’s about bashing a person for his religion. And I continue to be amused by your continuously fabricating statements for others and then insulting them for those statements.
Show me one example of Maher deriding a Muslim for his or her belief.
@ Richard Wheeler:
Rich, I don’t think the Christian community would have jumped in with the overwhelming support of Tebow had the left not attacked him first. It started with the pro-life commercial for the Super Bowl last year and has just snow-balled since.
I agree with the left leaning comments concerning Maher’s right to talk about Tebow, but Tebow has the same rights.
By the way, saw your predictions for the Noles vs Irish. Were you in the eggnog early? 🙂
@Hard Right: actually, that was directed at drjohn…
he is the one who made the statement that the world would be better…and i again ask…WHY? because he’s a “good guy”? because he “stands up for what he believes”? or is it because he’s “Christian”?
someone argued that if Tebow was Muslim, would Maher be attacking him? actually…and quite sadly…if Tebow were Muslim and receiving all this attention, i can undoubtedly guarantee that it would from YOUR camp that he would be being attacked. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kashif-n-chaudhry/lowes-prejudiced-america_b_1159754.html)
my argument all along has been that the ONLY reason you are clamoring to defend Tebow is BECAUSE of his religion. i posed questions for someone to refute this…which i do not expect to receive.
do i have “issues”, Hard Right? no. i have opinions…and i would like to thank so many of you today for helping support them.
@drjohn: watch Religi@drjohn: i guess you’ve not taken the time to watch “Religulous”
perhaps this bit might help you understand that Maher isn’t singling out Christians…he opposes all religions and religious “fanatics”.
Bill Maher is a comedian (whether he is a good one or not is up for debate). Tim Tebow is a football player (and the same applies). BOTH have been outspoken about their beliefs. BOTH of them are simply human.
@drjohn: “And I continue to be amused by your continuously fabricating statements for others and then insulting them for those statements.”
and i continue to be entertained by the skewed point-of-view and choice of words you and your friends here employ.
i’ve neither “fabricated” any statements (in fact…i often quoted YOU directly)…nor have i “insulted” them for those statements. i find it ironic though…that you would shake a finger at me while the right-wing rhetoric throughout your blog CLEARLY insults, degrades, and offends anyone with “liberal” or “leftist” thought.
@C Andrew Scott: You said:
That pretty much says it all.
@anticsrocks: at least i can admit it.
@C Andrew Scott: The opposite of Love is not Hate, it is antipathy. That is what I feel for you.
People were clamoring for Tebow because of his religion AND because he Q.B’d. a number of come from behind 4th quarter victories.What wasn’t discussed as much was the staunch defense his tesm played that contributed to these wins and
some BIZZARE,ERRONEOUS decisions by opposing coaches that contributed to the victories..
His team has been BLOWN OUT in it’s last two games. Expect more losses to teams better than the Broncos with much better quarterbacks .
I’d expect by this time next year it’ll be Tim who and we can discuss much more substantive issues. Anybody know Andrew Luck’s religion?
Semper Fi
@planet earth: You said:
I’m not Gary Kukis, but I’ll take a shot at this:
@anticsrocks: well “Matt” you are free to feel whatever you like. i made a statement. i stand by it. some responses in this forum supported my argument. the silence supported it even more.
C Andrew Scott, it look like you have Planet Earth names , which one are you going to keep, the SOCK PUPPETS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE OR WAS IT YOUR MISTAKE?
@ilovebeeswarzone: it’s obvious that anyone with an opposing opinion is not welcome here.
@planet earth:
@C Andrew Scott:
We don’t allow commenters to change usernames. Pick one and stick with it please.
anticsrocks
check planet earth and C Andrew Scott are the same
@C Andrew Scott:
Bebe Netanyahu
Salman Rushdie
C Andrew Scott
you want to know the names of anyone standing up for their BELIEFS?
okay, here it is, they are THE CONSERVATIVES, and don’t anyone forget it,
that is the TRUTH
@ilovebeeswarzone: well, Bee…some of us liberals also stand up for their beliefs…and YOURS.
thank you, drjohn. i was simply trying to make a point, stir conversation…not controversy.
@C Andrew Scott:
Is that all you got? His comment about the Koran? Impressive.
You do have a compehension problem.
Maher attacked an individual for his religious beliefs. He would not dare single out a Muslim in the same manner.
@C Andrew Scott: If I saw Maher pound on a Jew as upstanding as Tebow simply for the person’s belief in Judaism I would rip into Maher in exactly the same manner.
Maher is a flaming a-hole. I believe he is troubled emotionally, scarred by his upbringing.
@drjohn:i disagree…but that’s fine. 1st Amendment.
what i think i find most interesting is…you are up in arms because one man was attacked by at comedian who’s career has been built upon “shock factor”…yet how often do members of your own community attack non-Christians. and by “attack” i’m referring to the same tactics used by Maher.
i suppose it’s ok for Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh to make a controversial statement…because you agree with them.
Tim Tebow may very well be a “nice guy” and a “good person” he most likely does have leadership skills. he’s going to a successful evangalist in the very near future, that is obvious. but again…if he were Muslim or gay…you wouldn’t be rallying the troops to defend his freedoms. i undoubtedly stand by that statement.
and if you’re serious about your response about Maher…you’d be devoting this entire blog to him, because he says something “ugly” about religion every other day.
@drjohn:
Ayaan Hirsi Ali who left Islam to become an atheist.
She must have round-the-clock armed protection to simply stay alive.
She does NOT back down from freely expressing her beliefs.
Kurt Westergaard, atheist.
Kurt became known for his depiction of the prophet Muhammad wearing a bomb in a turban.
In 2008 three men were arrested for plotting his murder.
He has a safe room in his home and paid 24/7/365 protection.
Yet, still, in 2010 he was attacked in his home by a man with an ax.
His safe room saved him.
Kurt, also, continues to freely express his beliefs, even planning to put that cartoon on the cover of his new book.
@drjohn: what about his upbringing scarred him? why would you consider him “troubled”? is it because he stands tall and voices his opinion? you find it offensive that he attacks religion…but that’s because you are a “believer”. i don’t believe in god. i personally find many flaws in religion and religious people. that being said…i am not trying to out law freedoms or limit your ability to worship. Maher and i share fundamental opinions about religion, but have i at all attacked anyone for their religions beliefs? have i insulted anyone? i’ve simply tried to make a point.
Tebow is being glamourized BECAUSE of his religion. you applaud him. expect some boos to be heard as well.
@Nan G: are you providing the names of “non-Christians” you applaud for standing up for their beliefs?
i find it interesting you chose two people who were on the opposite end of Islam. cute.
@C Andrew Scott:
Hey, didn’t you just say
You have not the first idea what I believe or do not believe.
@planet earth:
If you read through various founding documents, prayers said by early presidents, the arguments made in the federalists papers, the Bible is cited more often than any other document or book.
The idea that our founding fathers were deists is a myth which begun to be taught in the 20th century and was perpetuated for decades. It is one of the few things I recall from my American history courses, so means it was carefully and intentionally drummed into me.
I strongly recommend David Barton’s American Heritage DVD set, which can be gotten quite cheaply used; and he will quote document after document about the faith of our founding fathers. Not all of them were believers in Jesus Christ, but my guess is, 80-95% of them.
I have remarked before that, if some principal got on his intercom system and read, say, a Thanksgiving address from George Washington, or a Christmas message from an early president; and that principal might find himself looking for a new job the next day.
Heck, there are a whole lot of things that even FDR said that people would think could not be said in a classroom, e.g., “the United States is the country in which the Word of God is taught.” I heard him say that on a publicly broadcasted message.
This is why our nation has been blessed above any other nation in human history; and it is why we are at a serious crossroads at this time.
@C Andrew Scott:
Not true. I would have little to comment on here without folks like yourself dropping by and saying silly things.
@C Andrew Scott:
As I always say, liberals have zero long term memory.
And sometimes no short term memory either.
@C Andrew Scott:
Rush makes controversial statements? Please document one of them.
@Gary Kukis, drjohn, etc…: make a great day, folks! i hope, somehow, someway…you all find the means to simply be good for goodness sake.
i’ll retire from bothering you all…since “silly” people like me obviously just “insult” you. stupid me! what was i thinking?! i better go back to drinking more of my liberal Kool-Aid and smokin’ pot, because i’m aparently not intelligent enough to have a competitive debate with the likes of you.
truth…it’s hard to change people’s views. i’ve only ever tried to make people “see” things…very few people in this forum have open eyes to see anything except what they want. the weakest of people see even less.
i sincerely hope that EVERYONE can come together and we can ALL get along.
Gary Kukis
hi, you know, the false fear of offending the MUSLIMS IS SPREADING in CANADA, and arouse anger in the communities all around this country, I listen to debates on RADIO BETWEEN A GOVERNEMENT OFFICIAL AND THE LISTENER TO HIS SELLING PITCH which is so obvious agreeing with the listener but adding his point to it. and no body is shy to point the MUSLIMS AS THERE IS no other excuses, between what is now changing and what was the freedom before, they each come to the same conclusion each in their words , that it’s not for the locals to change their freedom of showing JESUS WAY UP IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, BUT IS FOR THE MUSLIMS to acknowledge it is the COUNTRY THEY EMIGRATED IN, and should not change because the MUSLIMS ARE OFFENDED, the message is loud and clear.
bye
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@ilovebeeswarzone: um…Christians “emigrated” too, Bee.
For all those that hate Tebow the person, I have noticed they all share a common trait with Bill Maher. They are all insufferable cunts.
C Andrew Scott
the problem you had is trying to change these hard head CONSERVATIVES,they are just fine as is, and must be left untouch, especial by liberals from your side, as we all take note, IT DOESN’T HAVE NOTING TO SHOW IN ANY PART OF GOVERNMENT, NOTING TO TEACH TO THE CONSERVATIVES.
BYE
Maybe all sport people should start sticking verses from ‘Holy’ books or otherwise on their faces. Because that would really improve sports wouldn’t it? I’m sure all the Tebow fans here would be equally keen to support those with references to the Koran etc. Why stop there? Freedom of expression and all that. Let TV presenters, judges, teachers etc stick references on their faces if they choose. Maybe references to the ‘On Origin of the Species’ or ‘The God Delusion’. Or maybe ‘The Catcher in the Rye’ or ‘American Psycho’ ? I’m sure we would agree ‘if’ this sort of thing is considered appropriate then it should extend beyond the Bible. Problem is that many Christians (along with other religious fanatics) are unable to cope with being ridiculed over such displays of tackiness.
Gary K. Questions whether Rush makes controversial statements. He thrives on it. That’s his shtick.Without it he’d be as dull as Shep Smith.We ALL know that Gary.
He’s a political shock jock like Hannity,Olberman,Savage and Maher.
@C Andrew Scott:
I find it odd that you do not realize the extent to which anyone whose life butts up against Islam, but remains a non-Muslim find themselves on the opposite end of Islam.
If you read about either of my choices you would find people whose lives had little to do with Islam.
One of them merely LEFT that religion.
Since when is losing your religion a death offense?
The other merely wanted to answer the call from a publisher who wanted to find cartoonists who would depict Mohammad for a children’s book.
He was one of 12 whose cartoons were published.
Most of these cartoonists were children’s books illustrators until they suddenly found themselves “on the opposite end of Islam.”
Let’s add a third: Pat Condell.
Pat is an atheist who criticizes political correctness, Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
He has done so for years.
Only one group has published death threats against him, however.
Most of those death threats are too dirty to copy here.
But here’s a couple:
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(Dirty, but worth it for the way he signed his name at the end. 🙂 )
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(This guy has long, run-on sentences, but he makes his point…)
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Many more:
http://www.patcondell.net/page4/page4.html
Oddly, Pat went for decades doing comedy and criticism of all religions before these started rolling in.
@GaffaUK
Players putting American Psycho quotes like “Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?” on their face would be pure gold!
C Andrew Scott
yes but the trend is the MUSLINS are coming in big numbers.
they want to change the rules,
no CHRISTIANS ARE DOING IT, because they are home here
@ilovebees
Phew – it’s a good job Christians didn’t come over to North America in big numbers and try to change things for those already home there. lol:D