Iranian Scientist Claims Earthquake is Second Iranian Nuke Test

This is very interesting. Remember all the “earth quakes ” in the southern part of China? I read that there was a nuclear underground storage place there. The first earth quake was for real, but it was speculated that the subsequent “quakes” were some of the nuclear bombs that were stored there going off. They were deep in the mountain. Even months after the first quake there were many more explosions.

Sleeping well here is a given, however-a strike to interupt oil at this point with a shaky economy would likely devastate our country——-and they know it.

Obama = the next Jimmy Carter… only this time, with even MORE disastrous results. The guy is a total fraud

“So American can sleep well and have anice dream, and Amercan should not worry about iran” (Scofield)

Boy, Scofield, what is it exactly that you smoke? Powerful stuff for sure! Keep you head in the sand… don’t worry, be happy!

What was it that Obama said? Oh yes, I remember now: “Iran is a tiny country, a tiny threat.”

Underground nuclear detonations have a very distinctive signature and cannot be mistaken for earthquakes of any kind. Get real.

r

You want to go down and check it out?

Wars and rumors of wars. This seems like another attempt to make up the new president’s mind before he even takes office. Most of the media sound like a war has already started. Do you seed another WMD episode? Innocent until proven guilty is a basic right.Stop fanning the flames of war. We’re not getting off easy in Iraq. What makes people think it would be any easier with Iran? Mind your own business and find out who your real enemies are.

No its Mccain you guys are so ignorant i swear…. mccain is just going to mess up our economy even more and get into war again and spend more money n kill even more innocent lives and then since iran has such nuclear power as everybody claims they are going to use it on us…its just that obvious we need change not more war…havent enough of our soliders died? and innocent civilians…. not to mention the millions of people that have been ignorant and prejudice of those who are innocent. i’m not saying go obama or go mccain im going for the person who pushes more for world peace not war….

EPICENTER APPEARS TO BE OFF SHORE?
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/last_event/world_iran.html

(even if it isn’t, you DO NOT test nukes on the coast of your country)

AND IT OCCURRED AT A DEPTH OF 28.8 KM.

AS A POSTER (slimguy) ON ATLASSHRUGS POINTED OUT…
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/iran-tests-seco.html
…THAT’S A LONG WAY TO DRILL (it’s just shy of 18 miles).

…and, 9 people were injured. Nope, that couldn’t possibly have been a real earthquake, snicker chortle guffaw (NOT at the injuries and damage, but the lies. They’re almost as brazen as Obama).

UPDATE – the deepest hole drilled EVER (until now?) was by the Russians, it took them 15 years, and they got all the way down to 7.6 miles. But now the Iranians, in the flash of an eye, have beaten them by almost 10 miles! (те сволочи!)

BUT, I say we bomb them anyway, just to be sure.

Craig

Isn’t that O’ACORN something?! I mean they not only register the dead to vote, but teach them how to post comments to websites, too.

“What was it that Obama said? Oh yes, I remember now: “Iran is a tiny country, a tiny threat.”” — Craig

Good thing that the little stuff is harmless, like scorpions and black widows, which are so tiny it’s ridiculous to consider them a threat.

What’s the difference between a socialist and a democrat?

Gee…let me think a minute.

They both believe in big government? CHECK

They both believe government should be responsible for ensuring that no one has significantly more than anyone else? (Otherwise known as “spreading the wealth around”) CHECK

They both believe that “negotiating” with terrorists will keep said terrorists from attacking such hopeful countries? (France, for example) CHECK

They both believe countries attacked by terrorists did something to said terrorists that provoked the attack? (such as not being a good jihadist muslim goat-herder) CHECK

They both believe they know better than you what’s good for you? CHECK

They both believe that if you don’t agree with the preceeding statement that you are obviously too stupid to be trusted to make your own decisions–and they have to make them for you whether you agree with them or not? Check

They never met a tax bill they didn’t like (unless it had too little money in it), or a military bill they did like (unless it guts our military even more)? CHECK

They both believe the UN should have ultimate authority over ALL nations on the earth? CHECK

They both believe deficit spending is a good thing. CHECK

My, my, there seems to be a pattern here isn’t there. It kind of brings to mind the old saw about walking and talking like a duck doesn’t it? CHECK to that too.

What does the above have to do with Iranian nuke tests? Stated or not, Obama believes all the above–except the duck part–and those beliefs have been shared by other politicians who paved the way for major conflicts. Remember McMillen and his “peace in our time” in 1938? Or Wilson’s ” He kept us out of war” slogan in 1916? If Obama is elected I predict that within 18 months he will have begun lifting sanctions against Iran as a gesture of “peaceful good will”, that within 4 years Iran will announce they too now have a nuke–and we, and everyone else, better toe their line in the middle East…or else, and that within 3 years we will have another major terrorist attack here in the U.S. Obamas efforts to “improve” our image abroad will open the doors to all the above…and DON’T even get me started on his economic policies.

All in all, comparing Obama’s term to Carters “2nd term” is being overly generous…Comparing it to Carters 3rd or 4th term would probably be more accurate. Personally, I don’t like either of the contenders though I intend to vote for Big John, mostly as a vote against Obama rather than as a vote for a Republican president. The absolute worst scenario for the U.S. will be Obama as president and a significantly improved democratic presence in congress. (check out youtube for “burning down the house” for a good explanation for how we got into the mortgage mess we’re in right now)

To sum up, Obama is a political amateur who will prove to be an utter disaster for the country. The Iranian “nuke test” WAS an earthquake–having seen seismograph tapes of both nuke tests and real earthquakes in my military (retired ater 24 years) and geological (2-3 semesters from BS in Geology) training I can attest that the signatures are very different and that earthquakes caused by nuke tests always show the nuke test signature prior to the following earthquake signature, though sometimes the signatures are very close togather.

Now could someone spare a buck or two to help with my property taxes??? (You know, “spread the wealth” a little in my direction…)

RWS in FLA

Not being one to let a nit go by unpicked, “Peace in our time” was Chamberlin, not MacMillan.

If Iran were to attack any oil or USA reserves the nation of Iran would be decimated by nuclear bombs and cease to exist. As every president has always said, any nuclear attack is against America no matter where they explode the bomb and we will defend our nation with the full amount of our armed forces including atomic bombs. Iran would be the next Hiroshima so they better watch there ass or they all will die. Let them kid there selves like Sadam Hussein and nobody will be able to set foot in Iran for the next five years. Roboter

@toadhopper:

Here we have another ill informed Obama supporter. Along with Jason #26.

Did any of the people who are ranting about McCain being a warmonger or denying the plausibility of this report actually read the first few words that I wrote?

True or not, this is exactly how it will happen; sketchy, uncertain reports backed by minimal scientific data, precluded by rhetoric from Iran and rhetoric from Israel, and at a time of maximum American political instability.

btw, those who say nukes have a different signature than earthquakes…I agree. I do wonder how it came to be that the world recognized North Korea had nukes? Anyone? Anyone? Yeah, that’s right! Seismic activity. At first they denied it, then they admitted it a few days later.

Would you test a nuke near your coastline? I doubt it, but I do think you’d test it as far from your own facilities as possible, and….that puts it near the coastline.

I’m still not sold that this report is true, but MY POINT REMAINS THE SAME:

True or not, this is exactly how it will happen; sketchy, uncertain reports backed by minimal scientific data, precluded by rhetoric from Iran and rhetoric from Israel, and at a time of maximum American political instability.

I am always happy to find out where the students go that barely graduate from high school. They almost alway makeup the bulk of the Republican voters. Its no wonder they can be enthused with the label “joe sixpack” and “joe the plumber” as if those labels of underachievement are values you want to find in a President. Remember the last time we “elected” someone as intellectually challenged as you folks are ? Yeah we got W and Cheney and Rumsfeld, and Brownie . Why don’t you want to elect someone that is smarter than you are ? Is it really that threatening to your self image ?

My hat’s off to Morris S. who seems to have a very practical understanding of the facts. A practical understanding of the facts is not a very common occurence on this webpage. But to summarize what he has logically articulated……. Iran is still in the centrifuge phase of trying to generate enriched plutonium. Enriched to the point that it would be useful as a weapon. Both U.S., European, U.N. and Israeli estimates are that they are between 2 and 10 years away from achieving this level of sophistication. Bear in mind this a country that can’t even refine their own oil into gasoline — they have to import if from us. Without trying to slander Arabs, they are not smart enough to figure these things out wihout substantial outside assistance and that outside assistance is getting more difficult to hire and easier to detect than it was a few years ago now that the worlds’ attention is focused on them. On top of that, since rulers of countries tend to have a gene that developes a strong ego it is their express desire to continue to be a ruling power and not to have themselves and their countrymen emolated by thermo-nuclear explosions from countries much more advanced and able to inflict precise punishment than they are. I would think the scariest thing that could ever happen to Iran is to achieve a nuclear weapon and then have to lay awake at night trying to figure out how to keep the U.S. and Israel from wiping them off the map with a pre-emptive strike justified by self-defense. Unfortunately almost nobody on this website is up to making such simple and fact-based conclusions. Most of you are still trying to prove that there is bigfoot hiding in the woods and a loch ness monster hiding successfully in the shallow flat bottom of an otherwise sterile lake in Scotland. If you’re going to argue an opinion on the facts you’re entitled….. but you’re not entitled to make up your own set of facts.

@faul flay:

America ONLY used nukes to STOP a war, not start one.

In know Yonason. It’s cool.

I do find it funny in a dark humor kinda way that those who claim the US is a warmongering rogue regime are also the same people who would vote for Sen Obama who:
vows to continue the war in Iraq For 16months min
wants to escalate the war in Afghanistan (ie The Graveyard of Empires)
admits his Pakistan policy re pre-emptive, unilateral attack is the same as Bush’s
and has an Iran policy that’s already been tried and failed (Iran refuses to talk to us)

Some people just need to see a D next to the name, and then they’ll come up w all kinds of excuses to worship em

If Iran has nukes, Russia is at risk, China also. Europe is threatened. USA is not. If this is true, where are Russia, China, EU countries? Are they suicidal?

IRANIAN THREAT TO AMERICA

Those Damn fool Dems do not want to develop America’s natural resources. They are content to rely on MidEast oil.

How could Iran hurt us? Take out America’s ability to get that oil, ALL OF WHICH IS WITHIN THEIR REACH.

And they could put serveral missles on several tankers and sail them close enough to America to launch them from the high seas. And what they would do wouldn’t be to nuke cities, but to generate an E.M.P. which would neutralize our communications, power distribution, vehicles, and much of our defense capability for many months to possibly even years.
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faul flay;
It’s not the threat to America if Iran has nukes we are worried about. It’s the threat to Israel. An Iranian nuke directed at Israel would not require intercontinental ballistic capability to reach it’s target, and as such might not register on our ICBM early missile launch detection systems. Hence, there would be little or no forewarning.

Iraq DID have WMDs. The US government sold them to Iraq during the 1980-1988 Iraq/Iran War to defend itself against Iraq:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

The Iraqis used chemical weapons against the Iranians and even against possibly unreliable civilians of their own in Halabja.
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President Ronald Reagan decided that the United States “could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran”, and that the United States “would do whatever was necessary to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran.” President Reagan formalized this policy by issuing a National Security Decision Directive (“NSDD”) to this effect in June, 1982.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

Reagan/Bush administrations permitted — and frequently encouraged — the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq.
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the Central Intelligence Agency secretly directed armaments and dual-use technology to Iraq through false fronts and friendly third parties such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Kuwait, and they quietly encouraged rogue arms dealers and other private military companies to do the same.
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Operation Staunch was created in spring 1983 by the United States State Department to stop the illicit flow of U.S. arms to Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_sales_to_Iraq_1973-1990

October 1, 2002, article entitled “Iraq Got Germs for Weapons Program from U.S. in ’80s,” Associated Press writer Matt Kelly wrote:

[The] Iraqi bioweapons program that President Bush wants to eradicate got its start with help from Uncle Sam two decades ago, according to government records that are getting new scrutiny in light of the discussion of war against Iraq.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent samples directly to several Iraqi sites that U.N. weapons inspectors determined were part of Saddam Hussein’s biological weapons program, CDC and congressional records from the early 1990s show. Iraq had ordered the samples, saying it needed them for legitimate medical research.

The CDC and a biological-sample company, the American Type Culture Collection, sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin, and the germs that cause gas gangrene, the records show. Iraq also got samples of other deadly pathogens, including West Nile virus.

The transfers came in the 1980s, when the United States backed Iraq in its war against Iran.

Reagan knew much of what they had and this information would have been passed on to later presidents. The full lists were not made public. But; Bush Sr. knew it, Clinton knew it, Dubya knew it, the UN security counsel knew it, and all our NATO allies knew it. Our military found the chem labs we sold them and many other WMDs on the list. What were not accounted for were only the mobile missiles. Presumably, Saddam smuggled those into Syria. To get them out of Iraq before we invaded. He had several years to do that after refusing to adhere to unfettered UN inspections and then blocking them all together.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html

yellowcake;
Iran bought it’s military gear from the USSR and China. Why would they threaten an arms supplier?

brandon;
You’re thinking about Scud missiles which don’t have the range to hit America or most of Europe if launched from Iran. Those couldn’t even hit Israel. Here is a link to their ranges:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/missile/

However, we don’t know what delivery system Iran has in mind to use. Ahmadinejad isn’t saying, but his rhetoric seems to indicate he already has a plan. It’s not 100% confirmed Iran doesn’t have a better ballistic missile or ICBM capability or not. Russia wanted to sell off many of their older ICBM systems to Third World countries for newer multiple target-multiple warhead systems. NATO allies tried to block this, but it would be difficult to confirm if any were ever covertly sold and delivered.

You also say you’re not worried about nuke attacks on America because we have patriot missile batteries. Oh really? How many have you seen set up on permanent watch on Main Street in your town? How about the Star Wars anti-missile systems program that Reagan wanted in space to give us a chance to intercept ICBMs that the Dems shot down? And neither would be very effective against a “suitcase bomb” nuke.

True yonason;
I’ve also noticed some of the wikipedia entries are sometimes politically slanted. That wikipedia entry did not mention that Iran also had chemical weapons and had used them against Iraq early in the war, but even if the entry were somewhat tilted to being critical of Reagan, it still supports the point we knew Iraq had WMDs. I figured the moonbats would discount the Fox one and find Wikipedia more palatable.

I was searching for the list of WMDs we knew Iraq had to link, but was having trouble locating it on-line. So used Wikipedia as an expedient reference. Last time I read through the list was over a year ago and I couldn’t find the FOIA link tonight. I’ll keep looking. Maybe this will help, looks like several links to supporting news stories there:
http://newsbusters.org/node/11907