Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!
– Sir Walter Scott
Just how stupid is the White House press?
Just how sycophantic is the White House press?
We are about to discover the answers to those questions soon.
It’s very clear now that the White House orchestrated the big lie about Benghazi- that the attacks were the result of a video. It’s the bullsh*t coming out of the mouth of Jay Carney that leaves you incredulous.
Yesterday the White House defended the Benghazi emails:
The Obama administration Wednesday said recently released emails on the 2012 Benghazi attacks reflected what officials “understood to be the facts at the time.”
“In the email [deputy national security adviser Ben] Rhodes makes clear that our primary goals included making sure our people in the field were protected and bringing those responsible for the attacks to justice,” Bernadette Meehan, National Security Council spokeswoman, said in a statement. “The content reflects what the administration was saying at the time and what we understood to be the facts at the time.”
No it’s not, but we’ll revisit that again soon.
And on the very same day Jay Carney said those emails that they had insisted were about Benghazi weren’t ever about Benghazi at all:
“The email and the talking points were not about Benghazi,” Carney said. “They were about the general situation in the Muslim world.”
Again- on the same day, Bernadette Meehan, National Security Council spokeswoman:
“In the email [deputy national security adviser Ben] Rhodes makes clear that our primary goals included making sure our people in the field were protected and bringing those responsible for the attacks to justice,”
To his credit, Jonathan Karl took Carney on about this:
video via Mediaite
You’ll want to watch the entire video. It’s both infuriating and amusing.
Carney lies, repeatedly. He says it was the “best information we had at the time” but that is an absolute, outright lie.
And we’ll visit that very soon.
When MSNBC says “gee, you know, there is something to this Benghazi thing, you know the White House has a problem.
After months of denying any politicization of the Benghazi talking points, Wagner felt compelled to agree. “And isn’t there something to be said about just wearing the scarlet letter?” she said smilingly. “As Glenn points out, this was a few weeks before a presidential election.”
“Yes, there was a practical reality that this was happening six weeks before an election,” she noted, “and also any administration wants to convey control.”
Indeed. And within in that statement are the grounds for impeachment. The press knows it has been lied to and it’s on record. Let’s see if they pursue this properly.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@another vet: Good summary! If you recall, most of us who were in Iraq predicted the current mess in the middle-East when Obama and his no experience academic idiots from the far left were elected to “hope and change”. The left still cries that the Iraq war was about oil. They are so ignorant that they fail to understand that energy is a world wide issue and is essential to economic success. Wars are fought over this and have been before recorded history. The issue and only issue is how we want to live. Do we want to live under a system that has failed repeatedly over history or do we want to provide a 200 year old vision that works? If our system is so bad, why do so many people in the World want to live here?
@another vet:
Hence my complete disgust with what masquerades as “journalism” these days. They don’t even try to hide their disgusting syncophancy to totalitarian leftism – truth and integrity be damned – as they propagandize for their collectivist overlords. I know what I saw. I heard very similar reports to what you described from fellow soldiers who I consider reliable. We were all taught about dual use technology the soviets developed for their client states to use to assist the useful idiot western media in their constant portrayal of the US as being the cause of all strife in the world.
It just makes me wonder what the personality issue is that makes so many people buy into the obvious hypocrisy and self-defeating insanity of leftist ideology.
Randy
why do so many want to live here if it”s so bad,
you said the proof that no president should ever change what was working before,
no communist, no marxist, and surely not the socialist they call themself progressive,
they try to change the previous ugly words by progressive,
we are noticing that’s regressive instead, and they use also with it, aggressive,
TO SPEED IT’S IMPLIMENTATION,
BYE
another vet
you , and Randy and Pete and the other who came back from IRAK,
are most credible than any other government elected , on the chimicals in there,
your words are the most precious , because it come from the best ,
which this AMERICA had produce,
you all are the treasures of this nation,
they could live without any of them in the WHITE HOUSE,
but would not survived without the MILITARY,
@Pete: To illustrate your point, a couple of years ago a leftist troll came on one the threads and asserted that the Founding Fathers were socialist minded and believed in the redistribution of wealth. He claimed that Montesquieu (who wasn’t even a Founder) was anti-capitalist when just the opposite was true. He viewed capitalism as the biggest check against a totalitarian government, which “Aqua” pointed out to him. The best part was the troll argued vehemently that Patrick Henry advocated wealth redistribution and socialism when he wrote, Agrarian Justice. Anyone who read anything about Patrick Henry would know that he was a reluctant signer of the Constitution because he believed it gave the federal government too much power. Anyway one of the regular lefties who posts here decided to “prove” the troll’s point that Patrick Henry advocated socialism in Agrarian Justice by posting this link http://www.constitution.org/tp/agjustice.htm. All one had to do was open the link and read the byline to see how absurd the argument was. What it proved is that they incapable of independent thought and will parrot what their fellow lefties say no matter how wrong it is.
Ronald J Ward
ON YOUR 98,
spare your excuses, again using MITT ROMNEY, to cover the lies of your side,
not good enough, leave MITT ROMNEY OUT OF IT, he did not lie,
but on BENGHASI, this was deliberately done to win his election,
and he use an AMERICAN BOTH OF THEM USE THAT COPTIC RELIGIOUS MAN WHO MADE THAT VIDEO TO EXPOSE THE
MASSACRE OF THE COPTICS CHRISTIAN,
THAT IS COWARD IS IN IT?
and UN-AMERICAN,
WE DIDN’T DO NOTHING BUT THIS POOR MAN DID THE WRONG THING WITH HIS VIDEO, AND WE WILL PUNISH HIM,
THOSE SHOULD NOT HAVE DIED AFTER ASKING 17 TIMES FOR HELP FROM BOTH HILARY AND OBAMA, IT STARTED IN JULY,
@ilovebeeswarzone: Politicians have a way of being wishy washy and can’t be trusted. And that goes for both parties. Notice how fast Rand Paul turned on Bundy for his non-racist comments just to jump on the PC bandwagon. As for the dems, they proved themselves when they stabbed the troops in the back by throwing in with the anti-war crowd for political gain. They’ll never get another vote from me even though they had received them in the past.
@Randy: The best part is none of us ever saw any oil being removed by us. Perhaps it was teletransported.
@another vet:
Yes. And along that same venue listening to John Paul Stevens say the 2nd Amendment needs to be reworded to push the erroneous idea that the only people who the Founders meant to have the right of bearing arms were those in the militia – completely ignoring the writings of the Federalist Papers – written by individuals actually involved in writing the Bill of Rights – that clearly explain the right of the individual to firearms. Add to that the entire false premise of “social justice” being the underpinning of the general welfare clause as the ridiculous excuse for the insane welfare programs. Or the incredibly stupid belief that requiring one to get a valid photo ID as proof of voter eligibility in order to vote is somehow racist when everyone would have the same requirement, and that somehow it is not racist to require a valid photo ID to get on an airplane. Or the deliberate obtuseness of believing that man made CO2 is the cause of global warming despite the scientific fact that despite increased atmospheric CO2 levels there has been no warming since 1998. And how about the economically bizarre idea that arbitrarily raising minimum wage will help the poor and middle class without acknowledging that in order to pay the increased wages, businesses will have to raise prices and decrease the number of employees thus increasing the cost of living thus wiping out any alleged benefit of increasing wages?
Common sense seems to have become the most poignant oxymoron these days.
@Pete: Uncommon sense would be a better term.
@Pete:
You don’t understand; the march toward Socialism has been happening in this country for a long time. What do you think the New Deal was all about? And the only reason FDR could bring about his Socialist ideals was because Americans were scared due to the Great Depression. Never let a crisis go to waste, remember? And it is no different now with the labor force at 1978 levels.
Socialism is a cancer that eats away at any nation where it is implemented. Only those pushing it here are not doing it out of any realization that it doesn’t work, but out of the realization that it creates power structures where only the Socialist benefits, not the proletariat that is ruled by the Socialists.
The tactics are few; destroy first the educational system, then the Churches and then the families. Fait accompli.
@retire05: Anyone who was in Iraq and saw the devastation that socialism can do to individual freedom and enterprise would be picketing right now at the White House Gates.
@retire05:
Gramscian tactics have been exceedingly successful in accomplishing the brainwashing goals of the progressives, I agree, retired. The character traits required for individuals to build and maintain a thriving capitalist society based on Judeochristian values are denigrated in our modern culture in favor of the secular humanist collectivism philosophy that permeates our schools and our media. Orwell was chillingly prescient when he said that those who control the past control the future. I cringe when I see interviews of college students who cannot remember the dates of the American Revolution, but know up to the minute who Kim Khardashian is dating. It is sickening to hear people make excuses for the murderous acts of communists from Lenin to Guevara, then shriek about the evil of waterboarding terrorists. It is revolting to be inundated with accusations of the supposed callousness of objecting to paying over 50% of one’s hard earned income in the form of income tax, social.security tax and medicaid taxes to the government so politicians can buy the votes of those who enviously demand to be supported while doing nothing to earn their welfare funds.
The schadenfreude I will experience when the mobs riot after we reach the point where there is no more money for the government to confiscate to buy them off will probably be short lived.
Here’s a link to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence’s REVIEW of the TERRORIST ATTACKS ON U.S. FACILITIES IN BENGHAZI, LIBYA, SEPTEMBER 11-12, 2012, completed January 15, 2014.
Note that the “scathing conclusions” are not actually part of the report itself, but are in a 16-page addendum attached to the end, titled ADDITIONAL VIEWS OF VICE CHAIRMAN CHAMBLISS AND
SENATORS BURR, RISCH, COATS, RUBIO, AND COBURN. That part was signed only by republicans. Following that, we have a critical 4-page addition signed only by another republican, Susan Collins.
There’s nothing the least bit bipartisan about the portions of the report that are being selectively promoted by conservative media.
The “big lie” still comes down to nothing more than an erroneous initial appraisal that Benghazi was a protest that escalated out of control—a judgement that was subsequently revised as additional information became available.
That’s what has been promoted as a coverup.
@Greg:
Rhodes email disproves your propaganda. The whole point of the email was to get dems to spew the lie that the terrorist attack was caused by outrage over a video, “and not a failure of policy”.
Funny how you leftists are now so concerned about a lack of bipartisanship now, but are totally unconcerned about the complete absence of bipartisanship of the obamacare vote.
Leftist lies finally coming home to roost.
@Pete:
Just when I thought the weak tea arguments couldn’t get more childish and stupid, they become more childish and stupid. Let me help you out Pete on the difference in partisan or bipartisan legislation verses a fake scandal.
You see, Obama and Democrats ran their 2008 campaigns on a promise of health care reform. Upon hearing those promises, the electorate chose Obama and Democrats. Accordingly, Obama and Democrats fulfilled their promise to the people, much against the wishes of Republicans. Now while it’s true that ACA was indeed a partisan legislation, it passed the lower chamber (House of Reps) , passed the upper chamber (Senate), and signed by the Executive Branch-all elected by the people with a promise of reforming health care. The law was also upheld by the Supreme Court.
So far so good?
Now, the Benghazi incident was not a law or campaign promise. It was a very unfortunate incident. It was something that Mitt Romney quickly exploited in hopes for political gain. It was something that the GOP machine tried to manipulate in order to hurt Obama’s reelection. It’s something that the GOP has found to be a very good tool to use against Hillary Clinton should she run fro POTUS. It’s a tragedy that the GOP has turned into a fake scandal, a scandal that has been debunked several times, has been dismissed by the numerous committees I’ve mentioned, and is really of little difference than the 40 something similar attacks in recent history that were defined as no more than an unfortunate tragedy.
Your non sequitur comparison about partisanship is just jaw dropping stupid.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Let me show you the difference between a SCANDAL and a FAKE scandal.
A scandal is when an administration is derelict in its duties to provide security for personnel in high-risk situations (which the administration itself has created), especially on the anniversary of THE greatest terrorist victory in history and then, after that failure, goes out and spread the most inane, childishly simple and stupid false excuse for how we, the entire nation, got caught with our pants down and tied around our ankles, THEN stonewalls and lies, hides evidence, withholds vital documents, redacts important information from documents provided in order to keep the facts from seeing the light of day; all for the sake of reelection; American lives be damned.
THAT’s a scandal, a boy-oh-boy humdinger of a scandal, as it has electability and servability implications on two high-profile left wing candidates. Once such candidate already dodged the bullet and continues to serve incompetently, while had the information been available to the public, his 3 million vote margin may have been swung. The information is vital in order to prevent a SECOND derelict, incompetent lying asp from being elected.
A FAKE scandal is the Plame scandal, as was proven by the hearings and investigations.
So, there you go. Thus endeth the lesson.
@Ronald J. Ward:
No, it was a pre-planned military type attack by radical Islamists against Americans on what was considered American soil. The fact that you want to dismiss that military action as an “unfortunate incident” shows what a shallow, brain washed lemming you are.
At least Mitt Romney was visible. We are still waiting to find out where Obama was during all that time. Perhaps you know and can share that information with us? We do know he was NOT in the Situation Room, as he was so gallantly present during the bin Laden raid.
Obviously Hillary agrees as she seems to be persona non gratis on this issue.
So what you are saying is that the slaughter of four Americans, mainly due to the lack of security at the complex in Benghazi that Charlene Lamb stated herself she denied under orders from her superior (Hillary Clinton), is simply a fake scandal, unlike the months and months of front page headlines over the legal firing of certain U.S. attorneys or a non-covert Valerie Plame who, along with the VIPs, created a real “fake” scandal during a presidential campaign?
What a disgusting little man you are, RJW.
retire05
we just have to look at what is going on in school rioting because CONDOLEZA RICE, was invited, no one in government is better to explain the dangers they where fighting at that time,
she is the top of the fine classy people, who has played
an important role in a time where the democrats where yelling for war louder than the citizen at large,
we can easy notice the nefarious influence they are believing by infiltrator
who use their hate to change the mind of the students,
what a shame, to see they at their ages haven’t learned nothing,
and still following the propaganda of the left, which after 6 years had time to screw the mind ,
of those not mind solid enough to repel it, they are not the biggest number, but they yell the loudest,
and disturb the other too often, no one want to hear them,
@ilovebeeswarzone: You think they would protest if Hillary was coming to speak? After all, she voted for the war in Iraq.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
You can bet if Condi Rice had been a black Democrat woman, the outrage against that university would be deafening. Remember, there are none as intolerant as the “tolerant” left.
It is time to get the federal government, and tax payer dollars, out of the university systems. Let those institutions sink, or swim, without government largess. All they have become is indoctrination stations to warp the minds of the young and impressionable. And as a reward, those students come out with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt with no hope to get a job related to their Nigerian Women’s Basket Weaving Studies degree.
@Bill Burris:
Perhaps they should have invited Moochelle to speak of how she was never proud of her nation until 2008.
Ronald J W
who said that obamacare law is protecting the sick people,
there is many complaints already mountig on it,
and not pretty to hear,
you should know there was help for the sick people unable to pay,
before that obamacare law, no one was left to die, as they try to say,
they make people believe it is a law to save the poors,
hell they made more poors with that law and all the other laws,
by glorifying it show you to be so integrated in their talking points,
you are ready to sell it, as it is, DO YOU FIND ANY UNIONIZE
PUBLIC SERVANT ADOPTING IT, OR ELECTED OR NOT?
THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE TO JOIN IN,
BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING PAID BY THE CITIZENS,
NO, YOU WON’T FIND ANY,
AND IT IS NOT EVEN FINISH, AND NEED MANY MORE MILLION TO WORK AT IT,
@Bill Burris: You continue to follow suit of saying incredibly stupid things, having it promptly debunked, and then simply repeating the same stupidity as if the reality of your argument being destroyed somehow flew over your head.
Once again, your Benghazi conspiracy theory has been proven to be a fake scandal by the multiple hearings and investigations which I’ve listed.
You surely practice being stupid as it’s unimaginable that it comes that naturally.
@Ronald J. Ward: Let me help YOU out with the difference between a scandal and a fake scandal.
@Ronald J. Ward: Well, you are just going to have to explain how there is any evidence of a “Benghazi conspiracy”, unless you mean the White House conspiracy to cover up being asleep at the switch, campaigning instead of governing, worrying more about how much far left money they can rake in instead of the lives and security of those Obama and Hillary have sent into harm’s way.
You simply come back and call people “stupid” instead of providing a lick of evidence to back up any claims. How can an investigation draw accurate conclusions when the evidence is either withheld or redacted to the point of being useless? It’s pretty easy for Democrats to determine “nothing to see here” when the White House and State Department does not provide anything to see. It would seem to me that those who refuse to see through THIS sham (you) are the stupid ones.
From here on out, I hope the right politicizes the hell out of this and drives every one of these sniveling, lying bastards from the taxpayer funded payroll. Further, I hope criminal charges can be brought and as many as possible serve hard time. Not likely, but if there is such a thing as justice, that is exactly what would happen.
You act as if stupidity is a virtue, to quote the original “Flight of the Phoenix” movie.
@Bill Burris:
Bingo!
@Ronald J. Ward: Well, why not? The administration politicized it the moment it happened, concocting a false story to cover up “a failure of policy”, an outright admission that they KNOW it was a failure of policy, since, if not, why come up with the “video” cover story to somehow reinforce how steadfast and resolute the President is in time of crisis?
You know, what would REALLY reinforce how steady he is in a crisis would be for him to actually be PRESENT during the crisis. Wouldn’t you agree?
So, the White House politicized the attack from the git-go… I hope maximum harm to those responsible is meted out and if politicizing it further is what it takes, so be it; anything to emphasize that the best course in every case is to honestly reveal the facts and deal with the consequences… a lesson this administration and the entire left could stand to learn.
Ronald J Ward
ya sure, fake benghasi, fake 4 dead HEROS,
YOU HAVE A FAKE MIND, GET HELP,
HOW COME THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE SO MANY EMPLOYEES TO CHANGE
THE CONTENT OF ANY FILES, THEY ARE AFRAID TO SHOW,
this guy was ask if he had change the files, he said : I don’t remember,
don’t remember? of 2 years file he change to cover OBAMA,
he said : how can i , we change the context all the times,
WOW, a REVELATION, A bunch of crooks working for a bunch of crooks working for a bunch of crooks,
working for a crook,
@Ronald J. Ward:
Bingo!
@Bill Burris:
Bingo again!
Why would the GOP possibly want to waste an opportunity to “politicizes the hell out of this”?
From your very own admission, you well understand the strategy. You want them to politicize the hell out of it and you can’t find a valid reason for them not to. Nor can they, particularly when that’s all they’ve got.
Thank you for validating my argument.
@Ronald J. Ward: Bingo indeed. I am sick and tired of conservatives getting beaten to a pulp by the politicizing of every issue that confronts us. It is just fine for the left to politicize race, the budget, national defense, immigration and health care, but when the right tries to stick to issues they don’t have a chance, particularly since the corrupt media is in the bag for the left.
So, politicize it. Play the left’s game and BEAT them at it; particularly when they have the FACTS and what’s right on their side. This is why I wanted Newt Gingrich in 2012 because I KNEW he could fight just a dirty as the left. Fire has to be fought with fire and Alinsky with Alinsky. The left set the ground rules, now don’t start whining when you get your own medicine back.
Good luck surviving this. On second thought, to hell with that. Go down in flames; it’s what the entire left deserves.
Ronald J W
so you think that”s all they got?
you haven’t seen nothing yet,
the CANDIDATES are coming to change your rhetoric,
YES TO NEWT GINGRICH,
@Pete, #115:
I believe that’s an incorrect assessment. (Which is a charitable way of putting it.)
Benghazi was only one of 38 locations where angry protests broke out following widespread promotion of Innocence of Muslims. The video was intentionally designed to insult. Given the long and well-known history of violent demonstrations and killings following provocations so comparatively trivial as a printed editorial cartoon, I don’t know how any reasonable person could argue that such an inflammatory video wouldn’t be like throwing a lit match on a powder keg. Particularly considering the upcoming 9/11 date on the calendar.
Benghazi was unarguably something else besides. It’s clear in retrospect that a planned terrorist attack was executed. However, before details clearly establishing that fact became available, it made perfect sense to think it was just another violent protest that spontaneously escalated—that the same thing might have happened at any of a number of locations, had a readily available supply of military weapons been added to the mix.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Sorry, RJW, but your zealotry is showing.
Obama did not run on destroying the medical system in this country, but in fact lied about what he was planning on doing. Need I remind you of his lies about keeping your doctor and your insurance plan if you liked tbem? Or the lie about decreasing the cost for the average family of 4 by $2500 per year? You are also ignoring the very huge impact tbe media played in trumpeting the casualty figures and every other negative bit of BDS to the country while they annointed Obama as some kind of uniter who would stop the seas from rising and bring “Hope and Change”?
Need I remind you that obamacare was crammed down our throats with political bribes and propaganda with no actual vote on it in the House (remember it was ‘deemed passed’ in the House in a bogus misuse of the reconciliation process? If obamacare is so darned popular, why has Obama delayed the employer mandate until after the elections? Why does it appear that there is such a high likelihood that the dems are going to lose big in the next election?
The SCOTUS.upheld obamacare as constitutional as a TAX, yet Obama and the dems insisted vehemently in their propaganda campaign that it was NOT a tax, right up until they had to defend it in court when they completely flipped on the subject. Yet another lie from the dems. Tbere are still at least two other cases heading to SCOTUS on the constitutionality of obamacare regarding impact on religious freedom, and whether or not the manner in which the law was run through Congress originated in the House, as all revenue raising laws are required under the Constitution.
As far as Benghazi being a fake scandal, you leftists keep hanging your hat on investigations that have not (yet) found any proof of political malfeasance by the Obama administration. What you conveniently leave out is the stonewalling the dems have engaged in to hide any such proof. The Rhodes email recently released is a clear case of deliberate administration efforts to hide the complete failure of the Obama administration, and the sickening efforts to falsely blame a video for starting an imaginary “spontaneous protest” when what we all have learned was a terrorist attack that resulted in the death of our ambassador and 3 other Americans….for no purpose other than to cover up the policy failure of the Obama administration in the run up to the election.
Bob and weave with your leftist talking point deceptions all you want. This is no fake scandal. But it does fall in line with the clear pattern of lying that is intrinsic to the modern democrat party.
This of course is because when you belong to the Collective, you’re just not surrounded by reasonable people.
Let’s assume that the video was in fact intentionally designed to insult, as you suggest. The only reasonable, appropriate, and correct response to that assertion is; so what? People produce video and art every day that offends someone. Let’s examine the Collective’s piece of art known as Piss Christ. Would this piece of art excuse Christians engaging in behavior analogous to the behavior of Ansar al-Sharia? Of course not. Mature adults are able to control their own behavior even when they hear something that offends them, a concept that is certainly foreign to the Collective. What isn’t foreign to the Collective however, is childishly blaming someone else for your own bad behavior. “They made me do it!”
It’s important to understand here, that it’s incorrect to equate publishing this video with yelling fire in a crowded theater.
WHAT’s WITH THE THE MEXICANS ? are they stone with drug?
OR ARE THEY CORRUPT TO THE BONES?
that man is a MARINE FOR GOD’ SAKE
MY FRIENDS JUST CANCELED THEIR TRIPS , IN THERE, 50 OF THEM,
what kind of police officer is in there, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE,
and to say that their citizens are rushing here, means, that there is some CORRUPT IN THERE
TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON AMERICANS,
MEXICO YOU STINK, GET THE MARINE OUT, YOU ARE A MISERABLE GROUP OF PEOPLE IN RANK OF POWER, YOU ARE DONE WITH NICE PUBLICITY, WE WILL TELL ALL THAT YOU ARE DANGEROUS,
FOR ANYONE OUTSIDE OF MEXICO, BRING BACK THAT MARINE,
JUAN IS TRYING SO HARD TO SELL OBAMA ,
AND NOW HE IS TRYING TO SELL HILARY,
HE IS NOT GOOD AT IT, MORE LIES COME OUT,
WELL HE IS PROVING HIS ALLEGIANCE POORLY,
AREN’T THEY ALL FORGETTING THAT AMERICA PUT THEM WHERE THEY ARE,
TO THE SUPRIME COURT,
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BETTER FOR AMERICA,
THE INDOCTRINATION OF THE YOUTH BY FOREIGN INFLUENCE
WHICH ARE LET IN HERE WIH THEIR SUITCASE FULL OF IT,
OR PUBLIC PRAYERS BY THE GOOD AMERICANS,
TELL US PLEASE AS THE HIGHEST COURT OF THIS HIGHEST SEEK COUNTRY,
THE PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED TO HEAR THEY ARE A MELTING POT,
NO THEY AINT, THERE IS THEM AND THE OTHR WHO ATTACK THE CHRISTIANITY
@Greg:
Your logic fails…and that is a charitable assessment. You state yourself that there were 38 protests over the video, yet only ONE attack where mortars and RPGs were used in a sustained 7-8 hour assault on a US compound where 4 Americans were murdered. Tell me, how many other of these muslim riots over a video had such weapons involved? Or resulted in dead Ambassadors? It is absolute partisan madness to claim that we did not know it was a terrorist attack from the beginning as the information finally coming out has clearly shown. Your persistent delusion that the Obama administration was not politically manipulating the story lacks any credibility given the quite damning information in the Rhodes email no matter how stridently you leftists stomp your feet in these childish temper tantrums of denial.
Benghazi would have simply been a horrible, tragic administration failure had Obama and his handlers not been more concerned about political appearances and simply told the truth. The scandal comes from the pathetic, irresponsible and contemptible acts from all the involved democrat officials who trying to shift blame and put out an obviously false narrative for such partisan political damage control. The sheer evil hypocrisy of dems charging republicans of political manipulation for trying to get to the truth would almost be beyond belief, except we have seen the repeated pattern of lies and disingenuousness that is integral to the democrat party.
@Pete, #140:
I don’t believe how the Obama administration dealt with events after the fact had anything whatsoever to do with the magnitude of the tragedy, other than in the twisted alternate reality of right-wing political opportunism. Some in the ranks of republican leadership are apparently ready to treat any event as a political opportunity. Witness their efforts to turn the Cairo Embassy siege to their political advantage while events were still unfolding, for example. The contempt I feel toward these losers has been richly earned. They predict, hope for, and celebrate failure. They’ve worked for failure since they lost their controlling grip on the federal government. They openly confessed to this, in case anyone has forgotten.
@Greg:
Sorry, Greg, but it is you monumentally delusional leftists that have no workable policies, so you manipulate events to fool the uneducated. It was Obama’s former chief of staff and current mayor of Chicago Rahm Emmanuel who said, “Never let a crisis go to waste”. So stuff your hypocritical attempt at transference.
You leftists don’t have the testicular fortitude nor the integrity to admit when your policies are worthless failures, nor when the collectivists make insanely stupid decisions. You will never take responsibility for your actions, since your insecurities drive you to always find someone else to fault for your mistakes. Hence the suicidal idiocy of the left justifying muslim riots over caricatures of a dead epileptic pedophile warlord and the anti-constitutional nature of political correctness. Hence the stupendously moronic idea that a video critical of islamofascism THAT HAD NOT BEEN SEEN IN LIBYA was the cause of a terrorist attack using mortars and RPGs against a diplomatic compound – an act of war – and our worthless president couldn’t be bothered enough to shorten his political debate practice to order military forces to do anything FOR AN ATTACK THAT WENT ON FOR 8 HOURS.
Spin, lie and deny all you want, Greg. It is what leftists and other spoiled cbildren do when they get caught doing wrong. 61% of Americans do not believe you according to the latest poll on Benghazi. Your contempt against us for wanting the truth, and for appropriate officials to be held accountable for their failure resulting in the murder of 4 Americans, matters as much to me as a soap bubble in a hurricane.
the Democrats ARE FREAKING UP,
so scare of the next coming search on the deaths of the 4 GOOD MEN, HEROS,
now BOB BECKEL IS YELLING HIS HEAD OFF, SAY IT’S A SCAM,
NO IT’S NOT,
THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT THE DEMOCRATS,
they have decency and honor, AND SEEK JUSTICE,
THEY DON’T HIDE FROM THE TRUTH,
the Democrats should not be afraid to be joining the new search for the truth on what happen,
and what did not happened to save lives,
the MILITARY, where waiting for OBAMA’S ORDERS TO GO,
IT FAILED TO MATERIALIZE, the people want to know why,
@Pete, #142:
I’d like to see republicans attempt to provide concise summations stating precisely what the Obama administration is being accused of in each of their several imaginary scandals, without appearing to be as dumb as a box of rocks once they written each short statement on the blackboard.
The underlying republican problem is both simple and obvious: They haven’t got specific solutions for anything that a majority of them can agree on, even among themselves. Consequently they can’t approach an election by telling voters specifically what they’ll do if they’re elected. All they can do is collectively attack Obama and other democrats, and hope they can work up enough anger and outrage so that no one notices.
Testicular fortitude seems to be a preoccupation on the right. Possibly this has to do with the fact that society’s aging members tend to gravitate toward the GOP. (Being an old guy myself, I figure I’m allowed to make jokes like that.)
@Greg:
Because the Collective never politicizes anything at all. Is that the hilarious suggestion you’re making?
The contempt you feel is a manifestation of the manageable ignorance that the Collective intentionally breeds into its drones. Of course rational people hope for and celebrate the Collective’s failure. If the Collective fails, America and humanity wins. There’s nothing wrong with openly confessing this.
If you don’t feel that what Obama did after the fact had anything whatsoever to do with the magnitude of the tragedy, then how about during the fact?
@Greg:
Greg, you’ve been repeatedly presented with specific solutions before. The Collective’s directives prohibit you from processing this information. So you likely wouldn’t be able to process any information that Republicans might write on a black board either. Besides, we know that nothing epitomizes a dumb box of rocks more than America’s professorship, as is evidenced by the droves of worthless garbage that they try to pass off as educational material. Though when you review their preposterous salaries in the public record, one has to recognize that even a blind horse can find water.
Remember, not being able to agree on things is perfectly okay when you are a collection of individuals, rather than a drone belonging to a collective. In fact our very founding Constitution was fought over because of disagreements.
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@Kraken, #146:
You’re babbling. Get specific. I threw out a simple challenge:
We can stick to the current topic of Benghazi, just to make the challenge simple. I don’t think you can do it. But don’t feel bad. I don’t believe anyone else can do it either.
@Greg:
I chuckle at this pseudointellectual vogue-ing you display. Self-parody at its finest.
Your denigration of conservatives for not having solutions – acceptable to your socialist envy paradigm – misses the fact that the things to which you leftists demand solutions are problems either imaginary (anthropogenic global warming…uh….I mean climate change), or wholly made up socialist arglebargle (income inequality, renewable energy) where the only solutions you leftists ever consider workable involve ever more intrusive government regulation, higher taxes on people who work, disarming our citizens and our military, and addicting larger segments of the population to being on the government dole. You collectivists put on airs of being devoted to science while disavowing scientific facts that thoroughly disprove your fantastically erroneous positions. Leftist hypocrisy knows no bounds, as exemplified by the shrieks of high dudgeon over the closure of highway tunnel lanes in New Jersey being politically motivated, while you disdainfully ignore politically motivated lies and subterfuge over the IRS bullying of conservative groups, and the Benghazi scandal.
Solutions have been presented repeatedly from our side, which you leftists ignore because you refuse to accept common sense attempts that do not involve increasing taxes and government control over peoples’ lives.
1. Lower taxes (like JFK and Reagan did) to stimulate economic activity, thus producing greater revenue, stimulating hiring, and decreasing the number of people on government handouts.
2. Repeal obamacare in toto. Allow people to purchase health insurance across state lines for things they might actually need, rather than mandating things like chiropractic care, drug rehab, maternity and pediatric care for people who will never need nor want such services. This will bring insurance costs down.
3. To handle the estimated 15% of Americans who do not have insurance, allow doctors and hospitals to deduct from their taxes the costs for taking care of these folks who cannot pay for their care. Anyone who cannot pay for their medical care, would have the cost of their care deducted from any income tax refund, up to the amount of the cost of their care.
4. Until such time.as the AGW cultists can produce.scientifically verifiable data explaining how increased CO2 in the atmosphere (which they insist is the cause of global warming, despite the fact temps have gone DOWN since 1998 while CO2 levels have increased) can still be worth destroying our energy capability, the EPA should not be allowed to impose insane regulations on power plants that do nothing but increase the cost of energy.
5. Impose term limits on every member of Congress, and pass an amendment to the Constituition prohibiting Congress from enacting exemptions for themselves from all laws they impose on the rest of us.
6. Impose the death penalty for those convicted of voter fraud. Such vermin are stealing our freedoms, and should never be tolerated.
Those are just a few points to start with to try reversing the disasterous direction you leftists have steered our nation towards self-imposed doom. You will never accept these as solutions, since enacting such common sense plans would result in less government power for you leftists.
@Greg:
Actually, I wasn’t babbling at all. I was quite specific in my response, in that you’ve repeatedly proven yourself to be incapable of processing specific responses. This is just another example of that. Until you’re able to seek professional help to aid you in overcoming this disability, there’s really no sense in providing specifics to you. In fact, since I understand that drones require numerous repetition before new concepts have the remotest chance of entering their progressive pea-brains, I’ll be more than happy to accommodate you, and copy and paste my original response, to your copied and pasted inquiry.
Now, we can certainly copy and paste these things back and forth into infinity if you like. But I think we’ll both be better off if you seek professional help first. I am quite serious about this.