When is enough enough, liberals?

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Flopping Aces has extensively documented the pain Barack Obama has chosen to inflict on this country because his highness is displeased that his servants in the GOP refuse to kneel.

It seems that Obama still has the pedal to the metal screaming down Agony Avenue in the Hurt Limo.

Priests in the military apparently have been banned from serving mass. I they do try to perform a mass, they will be subject to arrest.

Warnings have been issued about the potential abuse of personal information by Obamacare navigators.

Private information you post while signing up for Obamacare may be used against you in a court of law.

Obama has converted the Park Police into his own Gestapo:

Vaillancourt was one of thousands of people who found themselves in a national park as the federal government shutdown went into effect on Oct. 1. For many hours her tour group, which included senior citizen visitors from Japan, Australia, Canada and the United States, were locked in a Yellowstone National Park hotel under armed guard. The tourists were treated harshly by armed park employees, she said, so much so that some of the foreign tourists with limited English skills thought they were under arrest. When finally allowed to leave, the bus was not allowed to halt at all along the 2.5-hour trip out of the park, not even to stop at private bathrooms that were open along the route. “We’ve become a country of fear, guns and control,” said Vaillancourt, who grew up in Lawrence. “It was like they brought out the armed forces. Nobody was saying, ‘we’re sorry,’ it was all like — ” as she clenched her fist and banged it against her forearm.

Obama is spending far more money keeping people out of Parks than he ever would leaving them as they were.

Obama has put an end to therapy dogs visiting sick children:

Volunteers run the dog therapy program, but the veterinarians are on NIH staff and are paid as federal employees. In an Oct. 3 interview on National Public Radio’s Morning Edition, Abbey Whetzel talked about her son, Sam, who is dying of leukemia and enjoyed it when he was visited by the dogs. “They can only come once a week, but it’s the highlight of Sam’s week,” Whetzel said, adding that she was informed that the dogs would not be visiting because of the government shutdown. “He was disappointed,” Whetzel said. “He really looks forward to the dogs coming.

Cancer treatments have been defunded but NPR got a half a billion dollars:

LOS ANGELES – Funding for clinical cancer trials and other life-saving research under the National Institutes of Health was cut off in response to the government slimdown, but it looks like the cookie monster will still be knee-deep in chocolate chips (or is it carrots now?)

According to the Daily Treasury Statement and first reported by CNS News, the administration dished out $445 million to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) on the first day of the slimdown, which means funds for the likes of PBS Newshour, NPR and “Sesame Street” are being spent before cancer research.

“It’s more than irresponsible, it is reprehensible. It’s an ‘in-your-face’ move by the administration, blatantly picking winners and losers in this shutdown,” C. Edmund Wright, a columnist for Breitbart.com and American Thinker, told FOX411. “Public broadcasting is a staple of liberal propaganda.”

And as Media Research Center’s Director of Media Analysis, Tim Graham, pointed out, PBS has hosted two “very friendly” interviews with President Obama in recent weeks.

The CPB argued that it was indispensable, as opposed to cancer treatment:

But the CPB defended their big payday, telling FOX411 in a statement that their funding was “indispensable”and provide jobs for thousands of people.

It was noted that PBS has held two obsequious interviews with Obama over the last two weeks.

These are all Obama choices. They are meant to exert the maximal amount of pain on Americans- the Americans Obama took an oath to protect. This is not just bad judgment- it is evil.

When does the left stop swallowing the Koolaid?

Obamacare was premised on a set of lies- that you could keep your plan, keep your doctor and it was going to cost you less in premiums.

None of that is true.

It was supposed to reduce health care spending.

That’s not true either.

Obamacare was passed via legislative chicanery and legerdemain. We had to pass to find out what’s in it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To[/youtube]

Obama unilaterally rewrites existing law from the Oval Office as he pleases, in violation of the Constitution:

Explaining his decision to unilaterally rewrite the Affordable Care Act, he said: “I didn’t simply choose to” ignore the statutory requirement for beginning in 2014 the employer mandate to provide employees with healthcare. No, “this was in consultation with businesses.”

He continued: “In a normal political environment, it would have been easier for me to simply call up the speaker and say, you know what, this is a tweak that doesn’t go to the essence of the law . . . it looks like there may be some better ways to do this, let’s make a technical change to the law. That would be the normal thing that I would prefer to do. But we’re not in a normal atmosphere around here when it comes to Obamacare. We did have the executive authority to do so, and we did so.”

Serving as props in the scripted charade of White House news conferences, journalists did not ask the pertinent question: “Where does the Constitution confer upon presidents the ‘executive authority’ to ignore the separation of powers by revising laws?” The question could have elicited an Obama rarity: Brevity. Because there is no such authority.

This is a bad law, as most that are hyper-partisan and rammed down the throat of America under dubious circumstances.

Please don’t argue that it’s wrong to try to change or defund established law. Dred Scott and Jim Crow laws were laws of the land. They were also bad law. I support any effort to modify or repeal this law, even to the point of default, and if for no other reason than to forever stain the Presidency of this vile, narcissistic and obstreperous man. The GOP is doing exactly the right thing, and one day this will be self-evident. Obamacare is nothing short of a disaster that is unfolding before our eyes.

Isn’t the job of the President to ensure the safety and welfare of America, as opposed to causing it the greatest amount of pain possible? Isn’t that a violation of the Oath of Office? Does it not violate the responsibility of the position?

So the question for you liberals is, when is enough enough?

UDPATE

The walls may be closing in. Obama is down to 37% approval. I don’t really care that people blame the GOP for the shutdown. These are the same stupid people who believed the lies in the first place and they aren’t going to re-elect Republicans in their own districts.

And in a very odd twist, Obama has summoned conservative journalists to the White House.

Likely to torture them on an off-shore black prison, er, I mean ship.

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@Richard Wheeler: Geez, it gets so tiring trying to educate Dims.

Are you saying Nobel Prize winners Albert Einstein and Linus Pauling were Communists.?

First we’re talking people accused by McCarthy, then we’re talking about people that were known communists before McCarthy ever became a politician. Why does it matter what I say about Einstein and Pauling, the world already knows the truth, can’t you read. It’s available all over the internet. Might try leftist Google, might find it there.

If I called you a Tea Bagger

Coming from a Dim, I would just consider the source. They seem to be very familiar with the term.

As a direct result of his inquiries McCarthy was discredited, censured and the witch hunt was over.

LOL, Dims cleared by a Dim, oh wow.
Let me ask you RW, was there a major Communist movement to take over the government during the 30’s primarily into the 40″s ? Just curious if you know.

@Greg:

Yep. And self-righteous, philistine nitwits such as yourself are doing their best to turn America into that sort of place again

I think you’ll find that the racism in this country has escalated under the racist president and his administration. Check out Tavis Smiley’s latest comments. Discord and unhappiness with the country? look at who’s in charge.

@retire05:

But I guess you are what we can expect for ten bucks an hour.

I thought he said he was getting 5, if it’s 10, he’s very overpaid.

@Redteam: #187
Things like this don’t concern me when we have enough problems to worry about right now. We have so many organizations trying to infiltrate our government, schools, churches, etc., now. I want to learn from the past, but right now, I am only concerned about what is going on in MY country now.

@Redteam: You’re saying Einstein and Pauling were Communists? You are just like McCarthy. A wild eyed bomb thrower. Seriously RT, what’s in YOUR liquor cabinet? Do you actually enjoy defaming great men? You are the worst example of the radical right. The problem rather than the solution. Kinda sad for a Navy vet.
For the record I fought REAL COMMUNISTS NOV.67-NOV. 68.
I’m gonna enjoy the weekend—out.

You’re saying Einstein and Pauling were Communists?

Where they? All roads lead to Pauling at least being sympathetic to the Communist Party of America that funded a number of his [peace] projects. And the HUAC (which Joe McCarthy had NOTHING to do with) said of Pauling:

“Doctor Linus Pauling is primarily engrossed in placing his scientific attainments in the service of a host of organizations which have in common the deep subservience to the communist party of United States of America”

I would suspect if you ask RW about William Ayers, he would claim that Ayers was simply a university professor who was interested in the education of American students.

@retire05:

I would suspect if you ask RW about William Ayers, he would claim that Ayers was simply a university professor who was interested in the education of American students.

Sounds about right.

@Richard Wheeler:

A wild eyed bomb thrower.

RW, which of my eyes is wild? and what kind of bomb are you accusing me of throwing and where did I throw it? I prefer you leave the military slurs at home, they don’t belong on here.

@retire05, #199:

All you have is ad hominem attacks. Unfortunately, you can’t dispute fact, no matter what source you may use.

Considering the usual tone of your own comments, an accusation of ad hominem attacks is totally laughable. Your normal mode of behavior seems to be to insult and badger anyone you disagree with—that being just about everyone.

Greg
no one want to be told the profile you made up,
it’s very distasteful, don’t you think?

@Greg:

Greggie, I understand that you think you are fighting the good fight for your progressive beliefs. But in reality, you are simply the court jester offering nothing more than a few brief moments of comic relief.

@Tom:

However, journalists for serious publications, regardless of their editorial slant, have a code of ethics that they take seriously, not like this “anything goes”/no repercussions ethos you find in the blogospheres (all sides)

Then you are willfully blind.

Candy Crowley’s performance as moderator in the presidential debate.

NBC’s manipulative editing of the Zimmerman 911 call, said edit made to trick people into thinking Zimmerman was racist.

The recent Oval Office presidential press conference – where not a single “unbiased journalist” asked a single question of Obama as to the horrible performance of the obamacare rollout.

Those are examples just off the top of my head – that you cannot defend without resorting to complete dishonesty or complete gullibility.

@Pete:

that you cannot defend without resorting to complete dishonesty or complete gullibility.

they make no pretense of honesty.

@Greg:

And you call anti-communists crazy? Really? Illuminati and the Free Masons? Oooooh Kaaayyy. Maybe you need to loosen up the tinfoil hat just a bit…..

@Tom:

It is only “fallacious” because it makes sense and you leftists can’t argue with it. The only reason the US can get away with running deficits temporarily is because the government can print money, which the average household can’t. The problem is that eventually the debt’s have to be paid, and leftist economic policies do not lead to economic growth. Witness the drop in GDP, the abyssmal work force participation rate, the unemployment rate, and the number of people freeloading off foodstamps. This is all due to the insane rationalization of Keynesian economics you leftists drool over.

Did you see China calling for the world to drop the dollar as the world’s reserve currency again this weekend?

Deficit spending – on a temporary basis for crises – may have to occur as alluded to during our war against those evil leftists, the nazis, but it cannot be a permanent financial plan which is exactly what you leftists have been pushing for decades. You cannot tax your way to prosperity, no matter how hard you squinch your eyes, ball up your hands and think happy thoughts of getting winning lottery numbers.

@Aqua:

We could start with the same thing that happened to Bush, but in the MSM instead of blogs. Dan Rather ended up losing his job because of it. Wanna start there?

I don’t think that’s an argument you’re going to win. I know Bush was called some terrible things – war monger, stupid, etc. – but you can’t possibly compare that to being called a foreign-born Muslim. At least I am not aware of large double-digit %s of liberals who didn’t think he wasn’t born in America. I also don’t know of anyone who thought he was secretly trying to destroy America. The attacks on Bush went to his means, not his aims.

By the way, what a lovely scene at the White House today. I’m sure Malia and Sash enjoyed the angry mob of white people waving a confederate flag outside their home, yelling that their father should “put the Quran down” and “come out with his hands up”. Obama was elected five years ago and this type of stuff happens at every large gathering of his opponents. I’m not sure anything aimed at Bush can adequately explain this persistent, hateful behavior.

@Tom:

By the way, what a lovely scene at the White House today. I’m sure Malia and Sash enjoyed the angry mob of white people waving a confederate flag outside their home, yelling that their father should “put the Quran down” and “come out with his hands up”. Obama was elected five years ago and this type of stuff happens at every large gathering of his opponents. I’m not sure anything aimed at Bush can adequately explain this persistent, hateful behavior.

Perhaps you would like to provide a link to all those photos of American veterans waving Confederate flags? I would be happy to link you to a photo of an American vet,, who lost both legs in the service of his country, carrying a Barrycade to the Spite House on his Segway.

You didn’t seem concerned that Jenna and Barbara had to endure angry CodePinko mobs standing outside the White House screaming “Bush lied and men died.” Funny how you liberals manage to find your outrage when it is a Democrat catching flak.

@Tom:

. I also don’t know of anyone who thought he was secretly trying to destroy America.

OpEdNews Op Eds 6/30/2008 at 10:52:12
Bush Is Destroying America, And Congress & The MSM Continue To Enable His Criminal Administration!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Bush-Is-Destroying-America-by-William-Cormier-080630-72.html

Want more, Tom?

@retire05: We’re still waiting for that link to the vets waving the Confederate flag, aren’t we. There is a reason that Dims come to this site, make strange claims, can’t provide a link, slink back to their hole and snivel. And we all know why…..

@Redteam:

I’m still waiting on the list of names of all those whose lives Joe McCarthy ruined. RW just makes drive-bys and then is running off to the beach or some other equally fascinating place (or so he thinks). And Greggie never answers a question. He’s the ultimate shell gamer; just moves the shells around thinking no one will notice; this one is most certainly a paid OFA hack (as is Greggie) but not very good at the job and Tom? Well, there’s no explanation for him. He reminds me of the university professor I once knew, a once brilliant microbiologist, who blew his brain with drugs.

@Redteam:

I never wrote that “vets” waved a confederate flag. I wrote that “an angry mob of white people” did. Please learn to read.

BTW, only a person who doesn’t know how to use a computer would ask me for a link to something that’s all over the internet today. I’ll give you an hour to try and find it, and if you don’t succeed, then come back and let me know and then I’ll post the link. Deal?

@Tom:

BTW, only a person who doesn’t know how to use a computer would ask me for a link to something that’s all over the internet today. I’ll give you an hour to try and find it, and if you don’t succeed, then come back and let me know and then I’ll post the link. Deal?

The real reason you don’t provide a link, is there is not one. I’ve been on internet all day, seen hundreds of photos, no confederate flag. Did you see this comment by 05?

and Tom? Well, there’s no explanation for him. He reminds me of the university professor I once knew, a once brilliant microbiologist, who blew his brain with drugs.

I’m sure she meant ‘after the drugs’, don’t you?

Just in case you think I’m trying to sandbag you there Tom, I did see a picture of a very quiet peaceful group of people ‘holding’ a confederate flag. I did not see a ‘crowd of angry white people waving a confederate flag’ when you find that one, that’s the one I’d like to see the link to. Do you really believe Obama’s children were at the window looking at the crowd? Hyperbole, anyone?

@Redteam:

The real reason you don’t provide a link, is there is not one. I’ve been on internet all day, seen hundreds of photos, no confederate flag.

LOL. Your buffoonery is highly amusing. You do know there’s more than one website on the internet?

@Tom: So, you’re saying you can’t provide the link to the angry white people waving a confederate flag. buffoonery? false claims? more than one site, so you won’t have a problem providing the link? right?

Tom, One of your cohorts has totally discredited himself today, you’re well on your way. Lay off that strong stuff…

@Redteam:

“a very quiet peaceful group”, some of whom were screaming “brown shirts”, “Gestapo” and “looks like something out of Kenya” at police officers just doing their jobs, protecting the White House. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pxEMfAfO-n4

TOM
THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER OAKLAND OCCUPY STREET MOB,
THE VETERANS HAVE BEEN SCREWED ON THE MONEY COMING TO THEM, A BACKLOG OF OVER 5 YEARS
THEY ARE THE BEST OF AMERICA,

@Tom:

Tom, the Washington, D.C PD is not tasked with “protecting the White House.” But then, I guess you didn’t know that is the job of the Secret Service. The snipers standing on top of the Spite House are NOT DCPD, they are Secret Service.

As to the “angry white people”; the only one that I saw that looked really angry was a black female DCPD who was threatening an aged veteran with her riot baton. Perhaps you just got confused on who was angry and who was threatening.

@retire05, #229:

Perhaps you have some explanation for why the people in the crowd were behaving toward the police like total a-holes. The police were simply on the scene, as generally happens when large, noisy groups gather near the White House. They didn’t interfere with anyone’s right to assemble or speak.

@Redteam, #225:

BTW, here’s your link to the protesters with the confederate flags. The video was taken today near the White House by Jim Acosta. It crossed my mind that calling the event the “Million Vet March” might also have been calculated as an affront to the President. It sure as hell wasn’t calculated to be descriptive. On the other hand, maybe I should give the organizers the benefit of the doubt, and assume that the name was just another instance of total tone-deafness. They really might be that dense.

Acosta posted the same video to the America Blog along with a still frame, here.

@retire05:

It’s always interesting when peoples’ ideological investment puts them in the position of defending deplorable behavior. Of course you’ve just about made it your life’s work. Stay classy.

@Tom:

By the way, what a lovely scene at the White House today. I’m sure Malia and Sash enjoyed the angry mob of white people waving a confederate flag outside their home, yelling that their father should “put the Quran down” and “come out with his hands up”.

I didn’t see that. It sucks for kids to have to go through something like that. But I imagine they felt the same as Laura and Barbara Bush when their father was hung in effigy, burned in effigy, when a guillotine was set up and called the Bush Whacker.
I understand that northerners look at the Confederate Flag as a symbol of hate and racism. But in the South, it is a symbol of pride and the rebel spirit.
If find it odd that a large number of veterans assembled to protest the closing of an open air memorial and were met with police. Yet illegal immigrants and illegal immigrant supporters were met with open arms. I don’t want to live under the same government as people that would condone that. I would rather us just go our separate ways and wish each other luck.
One more thing that has bothered me. I believe in honor, sometimes to a fault (if there is such a thing). I don’t believe that Obama was responsible for not making the death benefits available to fallen warriors, but someone in his administration was. Obama can’t manage every single detail of his administration, I understand that. I run a department that is miniscule compared to the Executive Branch. I delegate and count on my people to do what is right, and I hold them responsible if they fail to do so. Someone, somewhere in the department of defense or in the department of justice should have been honorable enough to say, ‘we’re paying the benefits, consequences be damned.’ And when that didn’t happen, someone, somewhere should have been fired or offered their resignation. If it had been me, I would have approved the payments, informed congress, and offered my resignation if met with opposition. Why hasn’t that happened? This is not the government I want to live under.

@Tom:
After I read your earlier post, I looked around the web to see what all the hate was about. What I saw was mostly a peaceful protest. I’m sure there were some nuts out there; any time you get a few thousand people together, some are bound to be nutty. You also can’t discount nutty liberal infiltration. It happens frequently.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/04/16/infiltrating-the-tea-party.html
And here are the links I looked at for the million vet march.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/million-vet-march-thousands-protest-war-memorial-closures/story?id=20558947
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/10/photos-from-the-million-vets-march.php
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/13/million-vet-march-storms-d-c-war-memorials/
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/-million-vet-march-converges-on-d-c–95316.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/13/1246880/–Million-Vet-March-converges-on-D-C

This one that show a protestor with a Rebel Flag

http://politix.topix.com/homepage/8423-protestor-flies-confederate-flags-at-million-vet-march-on-the-white-house
http://fox4kc.com/2013/10/13/million-vet-march-on-the-memorials-rallies-against-gridlock/

And this one with Don Lemon thinking the act of tossing barricades in front of the White House fence is disgraceful.

Don Lemon, GOP Guest Erupt Over ‘Million Vet March’: ‘Aren’t You Embarrassed for Your Party?’

@Redteam: Seems once again you’ve shown yourself to be a buffoon. You seem to enjoy it.

@Aqua:

I understand that northerners look at the Confederate Flag as a symbol of hate and racism. But in the South, it is a symbol of pride and the rebel spirit.

Well I’ m sure you can understand how it might be taken in this context. So was this person clueless or was that the point, to be provocative?

One more thing that has bothered me. I believe in honor, sometimes to a fault (if there is such a thing). I don’t believe that Obama was responsible for not making the death benefits available to fallen warriors, but someone in his administration was. Obama can’t manage every single detail of his administration, I understand that. I run a department that is miniscule compared to the Executive Branch. I delegate and count on my people to do what is right, and I hold them responsible if they fail to do so. Someone, somewhere in the department of defense or in the department of justice should have been honorable enough to say, ‘we’re paying the benefits, consequences be damned.’ And when that didn’t happen, someone, somewhere should have been fired or offered their resignation. If it had been me, I would have approved the payments, informed congress, and offered my resignation if met with opposition. Why hasn’t that happened? This is not the government I want to live under.

Agree, for the most part. I beleive this has been rectified, but it shouldn’t have happened. Here’s the thing though, when the government is shut down, what do you keep funding “consequences be damned?? You can’t fund everything as if the government is functioning normally, so everything that’s not funded can therefore be pointed to as an example of Obama playing politics. I would add this entire situation with the monuments. You and others keep stating that these should be accessible. Well don’t we want our monuments protected from vandalism?

@Greg:

BTW, here’s your link to the protesters with the confederate flags.

Greggie, you seem to be as big a moron as Jim Acosta. He portrays the protest as a “Tea Party” protest, although it was never connected to the Tea Party and was always bills as a veteran’s protest. But that was not bad enough; Acosta misrepresented the flag being flown calling it a “confederate” flag. Nothing like promoting racism on Acosta’s part.

Only one problem; the flag being waved was NOT the Stars and Bars associated with the South, but the Gadsden flag associated with the American Revolution. Like the lemming you are, you follow along with the deceit of Acosta.

Are you now telling us is it racist to fly a Gadsden flag? How scary, a bunch of angry old veterans who have been locked out of the very memorial that was dedicated to them waving a Gadsden flag, just as the Colonists did when they took on the powerful British government.

You’re a phony, Greggie. And obviously not real bright.

@Tom:

:

I understand that northerners look at the Confederate Flag as a symbol of hate and racism. But in the South, it is a symbol of pride and the rebel spirit.

Well I’ m sure you can understand how it might be taken in this context. So was this person clueless or was that the point, to be provocative?

And up pops another fool who doesn’t bother to question what he reads. Make that three people (Acosta, Greggie and you) that doesn’t seem to know the difference between a “confederate” flag and a Revolutionary War Gadsden flag.

Fear not, America. The liberals are here to help us run our lives and they are so very, very smart. (ROTFLMAO)

@Aqua:

What I saw was mostly a peaceful protest. I’m sure there were some nuts out there; any time you get a few thousand people together, some are bound to be nutty. You also can’t discount nutty liberal infiltration. It happens frequently.

The “lone nut” excuse doesn’t hold much water with me. I can show you picture after picture and video of people standing with this man as he waves the flag. Personally, I would leave any protest in disgust if I saw something like that being tolerated by my fellow protestors.

I would also call much of the behavior directed towards the police as reprehensible. Baiting police by screaming into their faces insults and slurs, knowing full well the entire thing is being filmed and there is little chance the police will react, is, in a word, cowardly. I understand these people are upset, but they’ve just vandalized public property and piled up enough gates against the fence of the White House that people could have gained access to the grounds. These people were angry and looking for a confrontation.

Of course it’s little surprise the event turned ugly, given the incitement provided by the event speakers.

One speaker went as far as saying the president was a Muslim and separately urged the crowd of hundreds to initiate a peaceful uprising.

“I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up,” said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

Can someone please help me find the posts of Greggie and Tom complaining when people were flying the black jihadist flag of the Muslim Brotherhood in New York not too long ago?

@Tom:

I understand these people are upset, but they’ve just vandalized public property and piled up enough gates against the fence of the White House that people could have gained access to the grounds. These people were angry and looking for a confrontation.

Wow! People removed the barrycades from the memorials they paid for, and had family die for, and Tom is upset. Nevermind the OWS crowd. Nothing from Tom on that protest although there were rapes and murders happen during their squatting on “public” ground.

Come on, Tom. Go back and find your post where you complained about the OWS protesters who were raping and killing people and crapping on cop cars. We want to read it again.

Well, finally, I found one of Greggie’s angry white people:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/legless-vet.jpg

@retire05:

And up pops another fool who doesn’t bother to question what he reads. Make that three people (Acosta, Greggie and you) that doesn’t seem to know the difference between a “confederate” flag and a Revolutionary War Gadsden flag.

You would know better than most about the Confederate flag. You probably have it tattooed on your derriere.

This is a Gadsden flag?? http://politix.topix.com/homepage/8423-protestor-flies-confederate-flags-at-million-vet-march-on-the-white-house

@Tom:

You would know better than most about the Confederate flag. You probably have it tattooed on your derriere.

Tell us, Tom; did you crap on the street in your support of the OWS crowd? Most animals do.

@retire05:

No response on the flag? Being proven full of it seems to be your full time job around here. An embarrassment to your cause. I wonder if you’re a liberal plant!

@Tom:

Well I’ m sure you can understand how it might be taken in this context. So was this person clueless or was that the point, to be provocative?

I don’t know. I have no insight into the person’s intent. I noticed that he carried a Marine flag as well, so if I had to guess, I would err on the side of pride. I look at the Confederate Flag the same way I do the Gadsden Flag. Somehow the Gadsden Flag became a symbol of racism when Obama took office.

Well don’t we want our monuments protected from vandalism?

The mall isn’t staffed by NPS except for a few hours a day. Private individuals have offered to pay for that service. If the point of the administration is to cut costs and not inflict undue pain, why not allow for private companies and individuals to make the payments? The administration is allowing New York to pay to keep the Statue of Liberty open.

@Tom: Tiresome old5 is an embarrassment to the cause with an extremely filthy mouth.
I say again. I appreciate the civil, informed discussion between you and Aqua.

@Tom:

No response on the flag?

Why should I be upset because someone took the Stars and Bars to a veteran’s rally? Are we now to shirk away from our history? No more Confederate flags because Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, race baiters who never helped do one thing but line their own pockets, might find it offensive yet stand next to Louis Farrakhan while he bashes white people and Christians? No more Gadsden flags, or Gonzales flags, or state flags? You people are absurd. You could find racism in a white envelope or a piece of white copy paper.

Being proven full of it seems to be your full time job around here.

And I am still waiting for you to reproduce your comments here bashing the OWS crowd. Looks like I’ll have a long wait.

An embarrassment to your cause.

Since my cause is the restoration of the U.S. Constitution, I’ll take that as a compliment.

I wonder if you’re a liberal plant!

We already know you are.

@Richard Wheeler:

Tiresome old5 is an embarrassment to the cause with an extremely filthy mouth.

And you are a disgusting humiliation of the uniform you once donned.

Why were you not protesting with those veterans you claim to share so much with? After all, do you not feel they have the right to visit The Wall when so many of their brothers died in Southeast Asia, where you claim to have served?

Your politics trumps your loyalty to veterans and that is disgusting, by any American’s standards.

@Tom:

said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

Didn’t know anyone took this guy seriously any longer. He sued Clinton, and he sued Cheney. Didn’t work, but he’s out there in his own world.

These people were angry and looking for a confrontation.

It’s no different than when the left protests a republican White House. I don’t like seeing the police get treated this way. Hell, some of them may even agree with the protesters; just like I’m sure there are some that agree when the left is protesting. You can’t expect the right to fight by one set of rules and allow the left to fight by another. What is it you want the right to do? Sit down, shut up, and obey? No…..we have first amendment rights, just like the ones illegal immigrants have somehow been magically granted.

…. the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.