Nothing says I support George Floyd like rioting, burning and looting

I…
… don’t…
………………care.

Bad cops exist. Bad people exist. People don’t want perfect cops, they want no laws, no authority to enforce the law.

@kitt: The only question for many is this: How do we tie these riots to Donald Trump?

@Nathan Blue:

Don’t worry; Maxine Waters is on it:

“I’m reflecting on all of the killings of young black men in particular, but of course black women too, at the hands of the police and at the hands of these white supremacists.”
“And I’m thinking about the way that the president conducts himself — in a way he’s dog-whistling — and I think that they’re feeling that they can get away with this kind of treatment.”

Remind me again how Maxine Waters has campaigned on trying to stop the killing of young black men every weekend in Chicago.

Congratulations, LBJ; your “Great” Society has worked out really well for black Americans.

Stop using riot. Stop using looting. These are protests.
Let the people have those things.
I was near DC in 1968. City was burned down.
Watts was destroyed after Rodney King beatdown.
Send in the Guard.

@Ronald J. Ward:

I don’t I personally don’t believe it’s as much about killing black people but rather so many of these neighborhoods happen to be poor black people.

As I said before; LBJ’s “Great” Society ideals have worked out swimmingly, haven’t they?

@kitt:

Long term brainwashing the blacks into believing they are(only) entitled to much less than they can do for themselves.

I had it explained to me this way; it’s “battered wife” syndrome. Take the abuse handed out by the Democrat Party for generations then expect the Democrat Party to put makeup on the black eyes and claim that makes everything OK.

.Keep them poorly educated in the government child warehouses they call schools, no choice.

Those teachers in those terrible schools are teachers who were admitted to universities to seek a degree in Education not because they were smart with great SATS, but because of racial preferences by universities. Perhaps that explains why Condoleezza Rice refused to put her race on her university application. She said she wanted to be admitted on her merit, not her race.

They brag on, 42% of students are at least proficient in math and 45% in reading, less than 1/2 of all K-12 kids.

Where are the parents demanding good teachers and a good educational system for their children?

So stupid the burn down their own shit.

Most of the businesses in LA during those riots were minority owned. Of course, CNN says “Don’t call them rioters; they are protesters.”

This cop had 18 previous complaints, the democrats kept him on the force, he isnt a white sup. he is a true blue democrat.

Take a look at any major city run by Democrats. Abstract poverty in the ghettos. Decades of welfare moms. Missing baby daddies. And read Thomas Sowell’s reporting on the stats of the black family PRIOR to LBJ’s Great Society. Disgusting how the Democrats have facilitated the destruction of the black family.

Twitter flagged a third Trump tweet. This time it was also curtained. You have to click on VIEW if you want to read it.

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

….These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!

11:53 PM · May 28, 2020

These are not the calming words of a competent national leader. They’re not an appeal to reason and a call for order. They’re the inflammatory remarks of a mob leader, far more likely to raise the levels of anger and violence than reduce them.

Any moron should realize that a handcuffed black man face-down on the street murdered by a mentally unbalanced cop over the course of several minutes with cameras rolling, while others just stood there watching, is a situation that requires immediate arrests and the most careful words from all public officials. LA, Detroit, Baltimore, etc etc should make any responsible person fully aware of that. It certainly doesn’t help that we’re in the midst of a pandemic that has probably hit the demographic in question much harder than any other. Tensions are already very high.

The man in the White House should understand that his rally crowds are not the entire country. The buttons he randomly punches to get a rise from his base reach a much broader audience. Words have consequences. He needs to think about how they affect everybody.

Trump is totally responsible for his own words, which have not been helping much of anything.

@retire05, #18:

Perhaps you would like to explain exactly what it is that Trump said that has your Hanes in such a wad?

Refer to post #13. You might want to discuss any other indications of possible memory issues with your doctor.

If you can’t figure out what’s wrong with the following two sentences, it’s not very likely that anyone will ever be able to explain it to you.

Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts.

Are you tone-deaf? Do you grasp that metaphor, or are you missing the meaning of that also?

Perhaps if you checked in a couple of other current forum threads, you would realize that it already has been explained. I’m certainly not going to repeat it everywhere that you’re spamming your imbecilic question using your amazing powers of cut-n-paste.

Your obsession with Hanes shorts is a bit odd, but certainly no odder than some of your other idiosyncrasies. Have you learned somewhere that these are Trump’s underwear of choice? Surely there’s an explanation for that, every bit as interesting as why I think Trump’s public post serves only to stir up his peanut gallery and further inflame those who are justifiably angry at seeing a televised murder.

It’s nice to see that this thread has deteriorated into a Retire05 discussion of Greg’s undergarments. If there’s nothing more to say, why not just shut up?

Nathan Blue opens with:

I…
… don’t…
………………care.

Of course he doesn’t, and he won’t until the cancer reaches HIS neighborhood. Then, when HIS police discover how many thousands of thugs there are for every cop or national guardsman HE can mobilize, it will be too late.

Retire05 blames the problem on LBJ’s “Great Society,” but ignores the fact that Republicans have on occasion held both chambers of Congress AND the White House since then and did NOT fix the problem when they had an unobstructed opportunity to do so. Why? Because on its face, the “Great Society” was a politically attractive idea. It soon became apparent that its devil was in the details, but NEITHER party had stomach for imposing painful solutions on a public that had in the mean time grown dependent on the Government’s largesse. Since NEITHER party ever made a convincing case for fixing what LBJ got wrong, the blame cuts both ways equally.

Unfortunately, Hitler ruined the term “final solution” for all eternity, but the race problem in America begs for a “final solution.” If this race problem is allowed to continue to grow, we will never have enough law enforcement to stop the sort of lawlessness that we are now getting a small taste of. We are a divided people, divided politically and divided racially, and we share no binding philosophy that can hold us together. And we WON’T fix that. Why? Because, as the very reasonable Nathan Blue puts it, WE……..DON’T………CARE!

So, we get what we deserve.

@Nathan Blue:

This is the death throes of the incarnation of the Dem party and their rabid fans.

I am sorry that you believe that these riots have anything to do with the politics of either political party. They don’t. Riots are just that. Riots. Stupid animals will occasionally bite the hand that feeds them, and they will also occasionally burn down their own neighborhoods, shoot their own friends, and do other equally senseless things because, well, they are stupid animals. It is a sad and terrible flaw of our “democracy” such as it is that such stupid animals were ever given the right to vote, but they were. And it is an equally sad reflection on the Democratic Party that it panders to these animals for their votes, but they do. I will remind you that because these stupid animals DO vote, Republican candidates also pander to them, asking questions like “Why NOT vote Republican, since Democrats have given you so little?” Democrats may be dirtied more by them simply because they have succeeded in winning more of their votes, but neither party has clean hands in this matter.
If you have an answer to the question of how to resolve these riots without making the problem worse, I’m all ears, but I’m not sure that such an answer exists.

@Nathan Blue:

I said:

If you have an answer to the question of how to resolve these riots without making the problem worse, I’m all ears

…which you should have understood to mean I was looking for a solution, not just another list of Republican accomplishments followed by a list of Democrat faults. Your answer to the question was not a solution.

Blaming the other guy accomplishes nothing more than making yourself feel good that you are not the other guy. You even admit to “just ranting.” So now you feel good. Did you accomplish anything else? No. And we HAVE to do better. Our society will eventually collapse if we don’t.

I have already painted for you the big picture showing the root causes of our human tragedy, so I won’t bore you by reiterating them. Instead, I’ll point you in the right direction regarding the present dilemma we face. First, you are correct that the massive unemployment caused by the coronavirus has ignited the current civil unrest – we’ve seen similar chaos caused by idle hands all over the planet. Stop and ponder that for a moment. People without prospect, no hope, no job, not enough money. The Republican solution is to dismantle the social safety nets that admittedly too many Americans of every race have become dependent upon, leaving millions more with nothing. NOTHING! What do you suppose these millions of financially dispossessed will do when their Welfare, or their food stamps, or their Medicare and Medicaid, or their Social Security (disability or otherwise) are simply eliminated? If this demographic had been raised being taught the same values that you were taught, perhaps they’d all race right out and find good-paying jobs, but they weren’t taught that, so now it’s the last thing on their minds. Remember, they’re just so many thugs. We’ve gotten used to bribing them into a semi-peaceful co-existence. We pay them “protection.” You MUST understand that this isn’t the answer. It’s a “Band-Aid.” It’s something that we have gotten used to paying on a limited scale, but we certainly can’t afford to pay it to 30% of our population, and we can neither jail that 30% or pay them all not to work.

They have guns, and we have guns. When they get hungry enough they’ll use their guns. Then, we’ll defend ourselves and our property, and you’ll have over 50% of our population fighting a civil war. This is where the collapse of our society that I foretold occurs.
So, we’re still looking for a solution, aren’t we?.

@George Wells:

They have guns, and we have guns.

The portion of the populace that supports the Constitution and our existing form of government has more guns, has more training, and has better instincts on when and how to use them.

The other “side” does not.

If this goes on for too long, you’ll see the real gun-owners start to police their own streets. If the police won’t enforce the laws, those people will.

This is the result of decades of Left-wing indoctrination, pure and simple.

@Greg:

It needs to be recognized that those things are their primary talents, and that none of them are being used in the public interest.

All partisan rhetoric, and not remotely accurate.

You and your party support open insurrection against the rule of law and the Constitution.

You offer no alternative, to boot. Biden is not a viable candidate.

Your party tried to seize permanent control of our government during the Obama years, and it failed.

These pathetic riots are the death throes of your inept brand of totalitarianism.

The solution is to put these riots down decisively, and with extreme prejudice.

The Democrats know they can’t win the election, so they’ve resorted to banana-republic methods for a good old coup d’é·tat.

@Greg: Lets hope they “do it” and end the possibility of future generations of Gregs. No more deevolution
Those and the ones who think waistbands are quick draw holsters.

The Democrats know they can’t win the election, so they’ve resorted to banana-republic methods for a good old coup d’é·tat.

The Trump administration is burning down itself.

@Nathan Blue:

I’ll soften the solution, in description only, by saying this:

All sedition and riots will be put down by the most decisive, and powerful methods available…stopping it dead, dead, dead…

That’s not going to fly with some, perhaps even you…and I understand.

This is an insurrection, not a protest.

Quite true. The REACTION you prescribe is of course necessary, because riots allowed lead to full-blown insurrection, and such would be intolerable. But that “reaction” is only a temporary Band-Aid that will quickly lose effect if a better, real solution is not at least sought by all players in earnest and good faith.

@Nathan Blue:

This is the result of decades of Left-wing indoctrination, pure and simple.

(#31)

You were going along just fine until you slipped on your blaming-clown-face with this crap.
What good did that do? Did it make your argument in support of taking the Law into your own hands any stronger? (NO.)
Or did it make the stupid animals (thugs) running amuck any MORE guilty? (NO.)
You just wanted to make sure that you kept all wounds wide open and properly salted. Thanks for that.

Your explanation of what? A hundred million (?) disorganized armed citizens summarily executing whomever they BELIEVE to be behaving criminally is basically the quintessential post-apocalyptic nightmare scenario, no matter how well-trained or well-behaved you think such trigger-happy fans of the second amendment might be. It is already bad enough when the occasional Waco, TX mess happens, or some rancher decides he has un-deeded rights to federal land and is willing to say so with guns. Each time that sort of lawless initiative is allowed to be taken, it dangerously weakens our country. Our government DOES govern at our pleasure, and it DOESN’T have the power to win a guerilla war against its own citizenry. But if such a state of anarchy were to ushered in by the mischief of gun-owners, do you think for one minute that our REAL enemies would just stand by and watch? LOL! The REAL question would be where the border between Chinese-America and Russian-America would come to be drawn.