As an eyewitness to history, I can see how things are currently trending and how the current path should be clear to all.. but isn’t…But no matter, I will just leave this here for you to carefully consider since I see no point in waiting for the inevitable to play out.
Donald J. Trump conceded the race to Hillary Clinton tonight
With almost an air of relief Donald thanked his supporters and begrudgingly congratulated Ms Clinton on her win. But in a final twist of fate, the erstwhile target of his wrath and persecution turned the tables on him in her victory speech. Donald had threatened to prosecute Clinton, now it was Hillary making the threats.. and now she has the power of the Federal government to carry them out.
In recent weeks indications of the resulting landslide result was shaping up in the polls, so despite rumblings and rumors of lawsuits over tonight’s return, it became obvious that the victory was so slanted as to make these actions seem superfluous at best.
While Trump’s style of bluster won him many acolytes in the primaries, these same mannerisms only served to drive most people away in the general contest. His once successful tactics of lawsuit threats and shutting down opponents with shouts of Liar had the opposite effect outside his cloistered rallies..
And while Hillary still has to clean up the lose ends of her legal troubles, it’s a fair bet that future supreme court justice Obama will serve to be the deciding factor in any legal case brought before the court.
Many are looking back wondered why they did not see the danger earlier, and still many more nodded their heads at the phrase ‘we told you so.’
While a formal postmortem on the failed Trump candidacy is still to be conducted, many have already began piecing together the early signs of his ultimate defeat tonight.
After the Convention.
The enthusiasm in the first few events after the Trump Convention were palpable as excitement ran high. His expected after convention bounce put him in the lead over Hillary Clinton and the recurring theme of Trumpmentum seemed to be manifest and expectations mounted that he would run away with the race.
But then the stories of his past began flooding the airwaves. The accusations of fraud many ignored in the spring bubbled to the surface, and Trump’s only passing flirtation with the truth started to plague him on the trail.
For many it was a very new experience enduring the phenomena for Trump of ever falling poll numbers. Still Many more were dumbfounded that Trump’s usual approach of bombastic bullying only made the numbers drop even faster.
The Debate debacle
Towards the end the series of presidential candidate debates sealed the fate of Trumpmentum. Tactics that has served him well in the spring began backfiring in a spectacular fashion.
Instead of seeing a candidate ‘standing up for himself’, the general electorate saw a bully trying to shout down his opponent. While in the past his vague policy proposals protected him, this time around they became a liability. It became painfully obvious to all but his most ardent supporters that he would lose and lose big.
Worse yet, he had nothing in his bag of tricks to stop the slide – they only served to accelerate it further. Trump’s attempts at intimation only served boost Hillary’s sympathy vote. His accusations that she is a liar redounded badly as she pointed out all of his lies and flip flops.
In a final twist of the rhetorical knife that brought down the house, Hillary ended her victory speech with ‘Donald J, Trump.. You’re Fired!’
One final note… Please dispense with wasting your time responding with any manner of strident invective that seems to becoming increasingly endemic to those who support the subject matter of this predictive exposition.
Suffice it to say that If you can reply with forthright and intellectual arguments they will be well received and responded to, but not if your mannerism are that of the 3rd grade schoolyard.
That’s strange. Clinton’s comments sounded to me like a rapid series of direct hits.
I don’t think Trump will ever agree to a one-on-one debate. There will be some lame excuse found for avoiding it.
@retire05:
Very interesting but not surprising that no one has asked who I voted for in the primary.
The big deal of asking Troll On Retainer who ‘the one’ is, is because he made such a big deal about there being this one super special guy that can enter the contest and blow Trump out of the water. I asked who that super special guy is and all he would do is list the 16 other primary candidates. It would do no good to point out to him that those guys already jumped into it and got blown out by Trump. So now he’s taken to just publishing clips from the TNS, all of which are months or years old. He should at least take the old dates off them, but I think he’s too lazy to read all that stuff and likely he’s just getting paid by volume, not content.
Look at the date of his post in 145, it’s about 6 months old and says Trump will have to go to court on May 6th. See how good his info is. He’s not even taking the time to read his drivel.
@Greg:
Do you need a referral to a hearing doctor?
Nope. I’ve had no trouble at all hearing what Trump has been saying. Neither has Hillary Clinton.
@Greg:
Well, except for the fact that Trump has challenged her several times and she won’t even answer.
@retire05:
I know you’re responding to Ditto, but I’m surprised he didn’t know you supported Cruz throughout until he dropped out.
except for that ‘natural born citizen’ bit.
@Troll On Retainer:
Gee, I didn’t even know that someone needed to know that definition.
Is that better, or worse than being an outed Troll On Retainer?
Soooo, you’re solidly on board……..
@Greg: Okay Greg, I went back and listened again. Notice when she said she had ‘foreign’ experience and she quickly got away from Benghazi? Wonder why? Why didn’t she go into how good she was in putting classified emails out to the public. Talking about the nuclear codes, she would likely store them on the Clinton private server in Chappaqua so the whole world would have them in 15 minutes. I notice she didn’t wear her traditional Kim Jung Un pant suit today, I guess that was because she was trying to distance herself from him for the day. She didn’t leave her screechy gravelly yelling voice behind though. I guess she sent Bill off for another pedophile express flight today to keep him from showing up.
But at least it’s revealing that you aren’t interested in quality, only quantity.
@Redteam:
Oh, I did know that she did Redteam. But, as you probably remember, on a different FA thread she denied ever supporting Cruz. Then in a strawman argument, she demanded that I prove that something I wrote, (that I never said was in Robert’s Rule of Order,) was in Roberts Rules. Since I knew it wasn’t, and I never said that it was, I informed her of that, yet she continued to demand that I prove it was. I don’t argue with crazy people.
@Redteam:
OK, provide a link to my post where I was supporting Cruz. Put your money where your [big] mouth is.
Give it up, Redteam. You wore that crap out long ago over Obama. Now you’ve just become boring and repetitious.
@Ditto:
Prove your claims.
I said I know more about Robert’s Rules than you do. You whine something about being a President, VP, et al for some [unknown] charity that adhered to Robert’s Rules. IOW, you don’t know jack.
You and Redteam need to get a room. Or a shrink.
@Redteam:
See what I mean? Retire05 thinks being childish is a form of argument. I’m done with her BS.
Trump Continues To Win Support From Union Members — Labor Leadership Isn’t Happy
I think it’s about time Republicans stopped being hostile to workers.
@Ditto:
yeah, I know. If I knew her I’d be concerned. She knows there is no search feature on this blog and to go back and find a specific quote would be difficult and time consuming and then she would still deny that was what she meant. If I say that someone said something, they said it. I don’t intend to prove anything about something said, I’ll just let them prove that they did or didn’t.
I can’t believe she is actually denying that she was/is a Cruz supporter. Weird.
I will agree that the ‘natural born’ is getting old, seems as if he should have been able to prove his citizenship by now, but apparently not. His problem, not mine.
Google Advanced Search does a pretty decent job of searching a particular website for something specific. It can be a useful research tool. To search for something on Flopping Aces, you’d enter floppingaces.net in the “site or domain” block.
@Ditto:
This has got to be the dumbest thing you have ever said as it has been Republicans that have fought for “right to work” in states all across the land. But then, there’s nothing like having your union order you on strike only to learn that your strike fund is broke but the union big wigs are still drawing their quarter million a year, plus “benefits”.
Unions have been falling out of favor with workers for decades now. I guess we should consider Trump a genius for finally seeing what the rest of the nation has been seeing for years. Perhaps you can point us to where he took the unions on years ago and not just recently formed an opinion on them?
@Redteam:
So now you’re calling me a liar? You shouldn’t let your mouth write checks your arse can’t cash, RT.
@Troll On Retainer: I see the TNS is getting your volume up. If you find anything interesting, you might want to notify us that it’s worth reading. I didn’t read past the headline on any of that trash above. (I’m assuming it trash because it is published under the name Troll On Retainer.)
@retire05:
I’m not British
@Redteam:
I used “arse” because the correct spelling of “a$$” cannot be typed on FA, but perhaps FA makes an exception for you since it seems to be aptly descriptive of you since you jumped on the Trump Train.
But you got the point, didn’t you?.
Now, care to tell us who you voted for in the Louisiana presidential primary?
@retire05:
No one. I didn’t vote. there were no local issues on the ballot and Trump got about 80% of the votes from my precinct and didn’t need my vote.
@Redteam:
On your previous comment on the age of the earlier items I’ve posted – do you understand that you should have known of ALL of those issues, had you been informed?
Question for you:
Do you follow the precepts of the commandment:
Yes or No?
@Troll On Retainer: Do you follow the precepts of the commandment:“Thou shalt not laugh at amateur comedians”That’s a quote from an old hymnal.
Absolutely. Posting old material is not worth laughing at. You should subscribe to a new TNS that supplies recent materials. We’re not interested in ancient history.
@Troll On Retainer:
I disagree. I don’t usually read far leftie sites, especially those that subscribe to the TNS for their clippings. I can’t argue with anything in any of the clippings you posted because I didn’t read past the headlines of any of them.
If you want to increase your readership, you should go with someone not specializing in ancient lefty History.
How about an article on “life as a Leftie Troll based on personal experience” I might actually read that.
@Redteam:
I see Retire05 is continuing with hypocritical ad hominen hits.
TrollTor has gone full blown #NeverTrump sock-puppet and is only copy and pasting their propaganda. As we all know, Curt and the other moderators detest sock-puppets, so I imagine it’s only a matter of time before they slap him down.I also see that rather than answer whom she supported, she simply want’s to mirror it back to avoid answering. I have no qualms about discussing whom I wanted. I would have preferred Senator Sessions would have run. Since he didn’t, I had to consider those who did run. Of course all the GOPe candidates were unacceptable to me. Scott Walker, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry and media whore Mike Huckabee were out of the running before it even came to my state. That left Ted Cruz, but his over-the-top proselytizing on the campaign and his refusal to legally renounce both his Cuban and Canadian citizenship’s completely turned me off. While I very much support Trump’s stated conservative platform positions, his demeanor is offsetting.
Having no more skin in the game and no other conservatives to pick from, I decided not to attend the caucus, because I didn’t feel strong enough about any of the others to pick. “Meh.” Now that Trump pretty much has it wrapped up, and as he does seem to be firm on his conservative platform, I will support him.
Redteam
Do you follow the precepts of the commandment:
Yes or No?
@Redteam:
So you have no qualms about Violating that Commandment with you continues use of a Lie such as you repeated when you replied to me?
Do you have any children?
Is it okay for them to make things up and repeat them incessantly? Yes or NO?
@Ditto: What are you referring to?
What is TNS?
The Links of all those items are listed at the bottom, and one can easily follow them to the original source.
@Ditto: So you didn’t ‘vote’ in the primary either. I believe that way back before the campaign even started ’14, etc, I might have said I would like to see Scott Walker as the candidate. I’m still not sure that he wouldn’t be a winner had he stayed in. He’s certainly popular in his state. I believed Kasich would be a good candidate until I really started looking at his positions. Now I know he’s just an establishment candidate and certainly has some positions I don’t agree with. Rick Perry was certainly good for the economy of Texas, but seems to not have been well liked, even serving 3 terms in Texas.
Non starters are those not eligible, in this race; Cruz, Rubio, Jindal. I’ve already stated the case against them and anyone overlooking their lack of qualifications do not know enough about American government to be allowed to vote.
There are certainly things Trump says or does that I don’t like. But notice I said “things”. In the case of Obama or Hillary, there is absolutely nothing about either one of them that the average American citizen can like. Hillary is an out and out crook, and totally incompetent as a politician. It might be okay if she were as incompetent as a crook as she is at government, but apparently ‘crooked’ comes naturally.
The choice in this election is clear. We either vote to maintain our system of government, or we vote to go to socialism. No country has ever survived under socialism, so that path doesn’t seem desirable. I will vote for the Republican candidate because there is no viable alternative. I’m not going to show my *ss and vote for Hillary just to protest some other Republican getting the nomination.
@Tor:
What part of sock-puppetry don’t you understand? Like a typical troll does, you have been flooding this thread with links to #NeverTrump propaganda. The moderators frown on sock-puppets.
Why are you asking me?
@Troll On Retainer: TNS? that’s the supplier of material for your blitz of this blog. Troll News Service I explained that above, but you likely didn’t read it as you’re not hear to read but only to blitz the blog. Geez, what kind of Troll are you?
@Troll On Retainer:
You made all of that up, I did not give that answer to that question. So you are the one ‘bearing false witness’.
It is up to them to do as they choose.
@Ditto:
If you think you can find a post where I said I supported Cruz, have at it, bubba, and prove it.
Instead you will continue to present falsehoods as facts that you can’t back up. No surprise.
@Redteam: I asked you a direct question: Do you follow the precepts of the commandment:
Yes or No?
What is your response?
@retire05: Retire 05 Are you publicly denying that you supported Cruz for the Republican nomination?
@Redteam: So you’re just piling falsehood upon falsehood aren’t you?
Do you have any moral underpinnings?
@Troll On Retainer:
Well, gee, yes sir, I’ll get right on that.
When you give me the answer to my question, then, I will answer yours. Who is your special candidate, waiting in the wings, that is going to swoop in and save the Republican Party? A list will not suffice. Only one name.
@Ditto: Where did you get the ‘sock puppet’ falsehood?
Can you prove your false accusations with something OTHER than circular logic?
@Redteam: No, stop dodging the question.
@Troll ON Retainer:
Well, I’d say I did til I started hanging out where too much rubbed off from people such as you.
Have you got your quota posted for the day already, or do you still have more clips to post? Why don’t you post some from your moral underpinnings and ignore the TNS for a while.
@Troll On Retainer:
Question? You think you published a question? You should stop relying on TNS, they let you down on that one.
Redteam
I see you’re denigrating even further – now you’re denying that a question was even asked.
Most people wouldn’t have a problem with answering that since they are honest.
But you have aptly demonstrated that isn’t the case with you.