Penalizing you for not buying insurance is not a burden, but insisting on a free ID to vote IS a burden [Reader Post]


The Obamacare individual mandate demands that everyone have insurance coverage and penalizes those who do not carry insurance.

The fine for not purchasing health insurance under PPACA is $95 per person in 2014 (or 1% of taxable income, whichever is greater), $325 in 2015 (or 2%), and $695 in 2016 (or 2.5%). Thereafter, the mandate is indexed to inflation.

But hold on, there are exemptions:

In addition, many people are exempted from the mandate, such as those for whom premiums exceed 8 percent of household income. Hence, as premiums increase, more and more people will be exempted from the mandate.

So those exempted not only won’t pay the penalty, they will absolutely no incentive to spend a penny on health care coverage until they get sick and now they cannot be refused. Obamacare- it’s like going to a bank and making a $1000 withdrawal without ever opening an account. Not long ago this was called robbery.

Never mind that the architect of this disaster now says not only will it not save money, it’s going to cost a lot more:

In Wisconsin, Gruber reported that people purchasing insurance for themselves on the individual market would see, on average, premium increases of 30 percent by 2016, relative to what would have happened in the absence of Obamacare. In Minnesota, the law would increase premiums by 29 percent over the same period. Colorado was the least worst off, with premiums under the law rising by only 19 percent.

Never mind that none of the promises Obama made- keeping your plan, keeping your doctor, lowering premium costs- are worthless.

No, penalizing people for not having insurance is not a burden. Sheila-Jackson Lee, (D-Idiot), say it’s a positive thing. In Rep. Jackson-Lee’s view, however, this language does not actually impose a penalty. Not only that, but it’s like the civil rights struggle.

“I would make the argument, one, that instead it is an incentive to do right–that it is not penalizing because penalty is punishment,” Jackson-Lee told the Judiciary Committee.

“You’re not punished if you have health insurance, in fact. And so you are, in fact, incentivized to have health insurance, rather than take the negative which is to suggest that because we have a penalty you are being punished,” Rep. Jackson-Lee said.

“I am helping you. I am helping you not to have 26 percent un-insurance in the state of Texas. I’m helping children be insured. I’m helping diverse minorities be insured,” said Rep. Jackon-Lee. “And I know during the civil rights argument–even though we were arguing under the Constitution–there were many policy statements being made: Do we want to live in a nation that discriminates against a person because of the color of their skin? In addition to the constitutional argument, do we want to live in a nation where there are people being uninsured causing catastrophic costs unto the nation and others have to pay. I think that is the question that needs to be considered by the courts.”

And parking tickets? They’re a positive thing too.

“But I also need to say whether or not it is more an incentive than it is a punishment,” said Rep. Jackson-Lee. “I am more inspired by incentive. And I welcome it being a parking ticket. We get parking tickets all the time, and no one complains about being required to do the right thing.”

Eric Holder has blocked the South Carolina voter ID law on the basis that it unfairly burdens some potential voters:

The Justice Department on Friday rejected South Carolina’s law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls, saying it makes it harder for minorities to cast ballots. It was the first voter ID law to be refused by the federal agency in nearly 20 years.

The Obama administration said South Carolina’s law didn’t meet the burden under the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which outlawed discriminatory practices preventing blacks from voting. Tens of thousands of minorities in South Carolina might not be able to cast ballots under South Carolina’s law because they don’t have the right photo ID, Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez said.

The Supreme Court has upheld a similar law in Indiana.

South Carolina ID’s would be provided at no cost and South Carolina has even offered to provide free transportation to obtain one.

The Carter-Baker Commission of 2005 said voter ID was no burden:

A bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform in 2005 chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former U.S. Secretary of State James A. Baker III found no evidence that requiring photo IDs would suppress the minority vote. The panel recommended a national photo ID system and a campaign to register voters.

Want to see a side-splitter?

What’s wrong with showing identification when you vote? That’s an egregious civil rights violation if you ask the Obama Administration and liberal groups like the Center for American Progress, and the Advancement Project. So what happens if you show up at the front door of these groups without ID? Find out on this PJTV undercover investigation.


So it’s a burden to have to have an ID to vote, but it is not a burden to have to pay a penalty for not having insurance under Obamacare, and you can’t into the offices of those who say it’s a burden to have to have an ID without an ID.

You can’t make this stuff up.

If one person doesn’t need an ID to vote, than neither do I. And if I don’t need an ID to vote, then I don’t need one to board a plane or drive a car. It’s discriminatory. But that’s not this is all about. As wrote back in January, this election is all about fraud. Obama absolutely depends on it to win re-election. The more the left whines, the more dependent on fraud they are.

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What amazes me is why do we NOT have voter ID? Our current system has proven to be fraudulent. If everyone would be required and to provide it would be a free process then I see no viable argument. With a health care mandate would there NOT be a valid ID required to implement?

I have always found it strange when the subject first came up about Voter ID laws. Even in backwards KY we have always had to show ID when voting, either Drivers License or Voter ID card and they check you off on a roll and question any discrepencies. Two years ago when I went to Washington DC it seemed they wanted an ID for everything especially around the Pentagon and national landmarks. So its strange that they same people who over rule the city they work in want the liberal bastions to be ID free come election day.

The sad truth of all of this is that irony like this is lost on Liberals.
They just don’t get it.

@Nan G:

It’s not that they don’t get it. They don’t want to get it. They don’t think it applies to them and they don’t care.

Holder and Obama provide us with more and more reasons to have dissatisfaction and resentment with their administration. They will feel the backlash in November and when the SCOTUS throws out Obama Care.

However, I have a question for Dr J: why do so many young physicians favor Socialized Medicine, while dreaming of estates and new German cars?

Is there a disconnect here that I fail to see?

They expect salaries that are in the stratosphere; yet, they seem to forget that physicians in Canada and England work the same hours and are fortunate if they make as much as highly skilled people on a drilling rig.

I live under romnycare here in Massachusetts. I got fined last year because of a language barrier between myself and Pakistani… handler…

It appears I must present a stamped birth certificate to prove to the Pakistani man I was born here.

I simply use emergency rooms. If the tax man can find anything to take from me… may God bless his puny soul.
Expecting another fine this year, if I file..

I should add… I had blue cross for twenty years previously. My wife requires maintenance. My person only requires stitches that can not be done by self or loved.

Things were good before that hope and change thing.

One must understand the nature and possibility hope and change.

Fwiw, I have never voted for a democrat.

Show I’d to vote? Could have swore voting was anonymous! I had to give my name to register in my state. And now with all the corruption and double standards, double talk, and hollow political promises for change…I stopped voting, to hell with it. The American public is so chicken sh-t, no one will stand together to force change. When you want something done, do it yourself.
Health Insurance penalties? WTH is wrong with these people…let’s make insurance mandatory to provide Insurance conglomerates with unlimited, never ending income, so they invest it on their terms…NO. Insurance is the biggest crock of crap! I’ve been insuring cars for 17 years at $200/mo. Do the math, and then ask me how many claims I’ve made in those 17 years… 0 a big fat “0”. But I get penalized for not having coverage, kiss where I sit. You’re going to punish the public for not having health insurance? Personally, I haven’t seen a doctors office in 20 years, and NO, I do not carry insurance, I have better things to do with my money than throw it at some black collar who can’t fathom what it means to “appreciate the finer things”. When we start capping incomes and limiting govt amendment ability to the original Constitution and Bill of Rights, the “American Dream” will be reborn. Let’s stand together, stop lining the pockets of the “Posers of broken promises” and take matters to the Hill…personally. Learn to live inside a budget, income caps based on family size, wipe out debt, and start putting the money back in the pockets of the people. America, for the people, by the people. I.E. Stand up, or shut up.

Can you give us a link to the video so we can pass it on?

If it is illegal to mandate that we have medical insurance, wouldn’t it be illegal to mandate that we have a retirement plan? (Social Security)

Never mind that none of the promises Obama made- keeping your plan, keeping your doctor, lowering premium costs- are worthless.

I’m sure you didn’t mean to say, “…none of the promises Obama made….are worthless.

I have a simple formula for figuring out EXACTLY what Obama is saying: Take what he said, factor in that he is probably lying, add the worst possible lie he could tell on that issue, then expect that lie to come true. So far the formula is 100% accurate.

@Skookum: Skook

It’s the organizations that appear to favor Obamacare, not the rank and file. It’s the AMA, not the doctors. It’s the politicians, as always.


I’m sure you didn’t mean to say, “…none of the promises Obama made….are worthless.

Correct. All of the promises Obama had made are worthless.

@drjohn: #12
Thanks for the link, but that wasn’t the right one. I found the PJTV one at

Watch a liar in action.

I’ve been doing that since I started seeing Obama on TV.

This is full blown hypocrisy. Ocare is just another shakedown – ponzi scheme and those who are ‘forced’ to pay into will ultimately get inferior healthcare – we have all seen how incompetent government is at managing -[ anything which should fall under free market enterprise.] Just look at SSI another ponzi scheme we are forced to pay into and receive very little in return….

Off track – the TSA which is a relatively small agency when compared to Ocare and under the Gov’t watch is inferior and has received many, many complaints, BUT, when handed over to private enterprise (in some airports this has been done) it has flourished and receives very positive feedback…

Why is there is so much ‘resistance’ from the woe is me, woe is them ‘left’ about getting an “ID” ?
It is because those who cry about it are the very people who Endorse Fraud!!

We have seen this ‘exposed’ time and again (Acorn). It’s the only way they can push their sinister agenda(s) – through “fraud”, lying, cheating, spinning and twisting the truth (Obama) – things which are not normal….

@Nan G: “Liberals…They just don’t get it. ”

I’m afraid they do. Liberals know perfectly well that having to show ID in order to vote would put a stop most of the voter fraud by which they get elected.

@13 Nice!

“Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but, whoever takes crooked paths will be found out.”
Proverbs 10:9

Once again a liberal straw man just exploded….when will they ever learn?

The link you gave me wasn’t for the video pictured. I tried your left click trick, a menu appeared, I clicked on “Watch On YouTube,” and it went right to the link on YouTube. I am now less illiterate on a computer than I was yesterday. I like learning new tricks. Thanks.

Not voting is a grave error. The pigs use specific tactics to discourage people from the poll. Never fail to vote…never. it is all you have.

Rest assured, someone will vote in your name if you are registered and do not show.


Spinnig and twisting are necessary survival mechanisms for specific classes of beings.

Obama’s birth control pill controversy is really a religion/government one.
I was at the doctor’s recently and asked him about ”the pill.”
Did you know that in medical literature are stats on various types of medications taken by Americans?
You would not believe how FEW American women even take ”the pill.”
It is only 10.1 million for 2011.
Maybe Obama should phase down his talk about access to the pill.
Only very few women take it at all!

Of course, we all know this is only about voter fraud. Don’t let them get away with it!!! People caught committing voter fraud should be severely punished and in public as a lesson to others. Also, drug testing. I have to take a drug test to work. Read that again. To WORK! When I work, my money is taken from me and given to those that will NOT WORK! I ask that they be given a drug test before they receive money I earned after taking a drug test and I’m called names. It’s as stupid as those that refuse to get an ID to vote.

Wake up! They will continue to do these things as long as we let them. They will (of course) act like our requests are completely unreasonable because they are complete and utter liars. We can let them get away with their lies or not. It’s time to stop them from getting away with their lies. Only vote for candidates that understand what is happening. Demand it.