When a story regarding the Trayvon Martin death appears, it is almost universally accompanied by this image:
It is of a Trayvon Martin years younger than he really was. And it’s not accurate. Dan Linehan has done some sleuthing and found a much different picture of Trayvon Martin than the one being forced down our throats. The real Trayvon Martin is being scrubbed as you read this.
This is a more recent image of Trayvon Martin
And so is this:
It seems that Tray was also on Twitter, but his account seems to have been recently deleted by his family or friends.
His screen name was “@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA, as you can see from the twitpic account screenshot above. He was also a member of a twitter hash group #team4dat.
At first, I was skeptical that anyone would maintain an account with that sort of derogatory slur in the title, but after doing some research, it’s apparent that it was Trayvon’s account.
The account was in existence long before the shooting occurred a few weeks ago, and was deleted only recently, there are still dozens of references to @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA in google’s cache.
The associated twitpic account matches the account name and is still online at the time of publication. Most of the pics were uploaded months ago, so this account was associated with Trayvon long before the shooting took place.
Several of Tray’s friends have been very open about referring to Trayvon using that account as well. His cousin, who is quite active on Twitter, refers to Trayvon more than a dozen times using the @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA nickname.
Apparently the account has been terminated but Google has lots of cached references.
Trayvon referred to himself as “Slimm” in his Twitter account and his Facebook account.
He had friends in gangs, if he was not in one himself, and there is a question as to whether Martin was active in the drug trade.
On Facebook on February 5th, his friend posts on his wall asking to talk business. Trayvon says he doesn’t have a phone available and his friend says, “Damn were u at a nigga needa plant.”
George Zimmerman, on the other hand, doesn’t warrant the same treatment. The picture the media offers all the time is this one:
We don’t get to see George as a 13 year old. We don’t even get to see George nicely dressed.
George Zimmerman refers to himself as “Hispanic”, but the media has created a new ethnicity for George Zimmerman- the “white Hispanic.”
As Linehan notes, there has been extensive investigation by the media into Zimmerman but there has been little to none into Trayvon Martin.
Exit questions- Why is the media so afraid to accurately portray Trayvon Martin as he really was? Is it because people would stop wondering why George Zimmerman took an interest in him? Why did the media need to create the “white Hispanic” label for George Zimmerman?
Finally-if George Zimmerman is a “white Hispanic”, is Barack Obama a “white black”?
UPDATE by Curt
The Daily Caller obtains Trayvon Martin’s tweets
UPDATE by Curt
New Black Panther Party leader arrested in DeKalb Co.
UPDATE by Curt
NEW BLACK PANTHERS OFFER $1 MILLION FOR ZIMMERMAN’S CAPTURE
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Except for liberals being foolish.
@Tom
In #25 you place total blame on Zimmerman for “stalking” Martin. How could that be if Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle and was approached from his left rear and assaulted by Martin. Disengaging,returning to the vehicle, approached from behind by his assailant. Yes sir ,that Zimmerman is one hell of a man hunter. He can stalk ’em right back to his vehicle with his back turned. The premise that actions prior to the assault will have much bearing on the grand jury or eventual trial jury is wishful thinking. Martin escalated what became a deadly situation.The jury or juries will have the benefit of evidence, testimony , forensics and sworn statements that we may never see. Their findings will revolve around the actions immediately before Zimmerman ended the fight. Everything else is just window dressing. It is all too easy to vilify those close to both sides of the case. Martin’s parents have drawn criticism and have allowed their grief to be used for a larger agenda. Zimmerman has been ridiculed as a wannabe law officer when he was voluntarily securing a community that had 17 robberies and a shooting in 2011. Having a CCL requires a level of responsibility that the public does not see. A sidearm is lightning in a bottle, you can’t put it back in after it is let out. The mental and ethical aspects of use of lethal force are just as,if not greater than proficiency. In my instruction, measured response begins with mediation and deescalation ,trying to resolve the conflict by way of reason.That is not possible when you have been punched to the ground and are being head bashed on a sidewalk.
Brian
your comment is more than well put, it is the clue,
bye
@Mike O’Malley:
A worthy debate opponent would notice, if said opponent were paying attention and truly interested in the response provided, that the “good faith” questions were answered intoto with the following clear, unequivocal, plainly stated response:
That answer is, incidentally, the best and most appropriate because, as you have already conceded, it is the most accurate answer that either of us has to that entire series of questions.
Your accusation I engaged in an ad hominem, even though you tried to coyly disguise it, is laughable on its’ face. I attacked your arguments, not you personally, so you and I both know that your accusation of ad hominem, being false, becomes an ad hominem within itself.
Good try though. A lesser interlocutor may not have noticed that.
Problems with teenage children, sons or daughters, is not simply isolated to “good working class parents”. Of course, I am sure that you know that and that you didn’t narrowly constrain the scope of your point intentionally.
Hold on a sec… Weren’t you just saying something about “ad hominem abusive” in the comment above? Why yes, I do believe that you were.
Strange how quickly hypocrisy can rear it’s ugly head sometimes, eh?
Another false conclusion based on facts not in evidence. You’ll be hard pressed to find where I’ve advocated for, or against, anyone in this conversation.
What I have done is objectively question and weigh each and every piece of evidence in order to see where it leads. There’s been no “advocacy.”
@Aye:
LMAO. “Suppositions and Assumptions.” Dude, really?
“You’re attempting to massage and shape a narrative which fits the conclusions you wish to make…”
Just WTF do you think you’re doing captain when denying the Sanford police department’s professional opinion on the matter?
@mossomo:
And what, precisely, is “the Sanford Police Department’s professional opinion on the matter”? Do you know if such a thing even exists? I contend that you don’t know the answer to either of those questions.
Be careful of engaging in the same behavior you’re attempting to mock others for. It makes you look foolish and hypocritical.
@aye
Mocking? No need to.
Was stating fact. Zimmerman was not arrested and was released by the Sanford Police Department. You can extricate the fact that if they had a case or reasonable suspicion of law breaking, they would have detained & charged him. They didn’t. It’s therefore reasonable to conclude this is their opinion. Otherwise he would have been charged.
@mossomo:
You demonstrate a basic lack of understanding as to what the procedural steps are and who makes the decisions from one step to the next.
First, Police Departments don’t charge suspects. That is done by the prosecutor’s office (state’s attorney in this case), usually directly, but sometimes via a Grand Jury proceeding.
Second, Officer Ayala, as well as lead Homicide Investigator Serino (and perhaps others), wanted Zimmerman charged and made those recommendations. They were ultimately overruled by the state’s attorney’s office, thus no warrant was issued.
Finally, the Police Department in this case did indeed have “reasonable suspicion” that a law(s) had been broken. Otherwise Officer Ayala and Investigator Serino would not have sought the arrest warrant that was ultimately declined by the SA.
@Aye:
“demonstrate a basic lack of understanding as to what the procedural steps”
Not a JD. But you sir have the loquacious pompous of one – that you are, or a PoliSci major.
Look – the layman can reasonably conclude that ultimately Zimmerman was released and not charged. You can agree or disagree. But to disagree while being dismissive of the SPD/SA and opinions derived from, and then to think your opinion stands on some higher ground based on your personal prejudice, I’m going to call you out. You did exactly what you accused Mike of. That video you evidence is attempting to massage and shape a narrative which fits the conclusions you wish to make. That’s why I’m laughing, shaking my head.
Last word is yours.
THE WALK OF THE DINOSAUR, SCAR FINALLY FOUND THE HERD, BUT THEY
ALREADY HAVE CROSS THE RIVER, and scar see how dangerous the river is with his own giant sharks,
the other who was upside down stock on the ice got attack by the mongersbromosaure and flyosaures and the pelicanosaure finaly turn back on his feets and he sent spikes on the attackers like a good porcupinosaure do, and went his way free, BOY WAS I worried for him. and there coming the herd of elephantausaure jumping to cross the river, and SCAR TAKE IS CHANCE AND CROSS among them where some get attack by sharkosaure,
but SCAR JOIN THE HERD SO HAPPY AND PROUD, he is a DINOSAUR AND HAS EARN HIS MEDALS.
TO BE WORTHY OF BEING ACCEPTED BY THE HERD.
I was so scare for him.
next show is about DNA they found in AMBER.
DNA with suck up the DINOSAUR BLOOD, AND THIS GUY
AN AMERICAN OF COURSE, FOUND THE DINOSAUR DNA
FROM THE BITING BUG IMPRISONED IN AMBER FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, where? how about MONTANA
Here’s an attempt to address the various media images and the politics that inform them in a fair manner (what a novel idea):
What Did Trayvon Look Like? It Depends to Your Politics
@Aye:
We can cite the FACT that the little worm was suspended from school for Marijuana possession. That is a fact.
Thus, we know he was involved in narcotics trade and was most likely involved in said activities the night of his death.
What the hell was he doing in a gated community at that time of night? DUH!
@mossomo:
Pompous is THE operative adjective to describe Aye.
I feel sorry for Aye-he obviously is showing the early stages of the assholia virus.
@Aye:
Hahaha – eat crow. Your bitter clinging to your shameless racist-baiting Party line made you look foolish.
ABC and NBC both are backtracking: NBC apologized for the obvious audio edits and ABC “found” and released a Hi-Def version of YOUR vid where the head wound is apparent.
Breitbart is here. Punk Libertarianism. Make the Left eat their words. Sunshine baby!!!
Funny how a few months later, this entire story has just… “vanished” from the media. Thank God Americans have such short memories, they have already forgotten the ENTIRE thing. One day they’re rioting & protesting… then… Travon WHO? Never heard of him…
The FACTS are in. ARE YOU BANDWAGON JUMPERS LISTENING? Listen good now, I know how soon you forget. Wouldn’t want it going in one ear and out the other again.
@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA (AKA Travon Martin) was a VIOLENT, GANG BANGER, THIEF.
BUSTED with a watch & 12 other pieces of woman’s jewelry and a “burglary tool” (as described by his school staff).
BUSTED Attacking a school bus driver because he didn’t feel like buying a ticket.
BUSTED for vandalism and weed.
Every piece of evidence points to the obvious. The little “gangsta” got EXACTLY what he was looking for. EVERYBODY KNOWS and now they’ve all found the next BS BANDWAGON to jump on.
Like Mr. Burns trying to take a bite of blinky the fish and spitting it out. The reporters photograph it and GTFO before it even hits the floor. They’re off to the next story. To report on the abuses being commuted on American Americans by whites… I mean Hispanic Jews… make that “mixed race Hispanics”… Yea!
And the idiots do it all over again. Day. After day. After day. Never EVER learning anything from the last bandwagon they fell off of.
WhereDidTravonsHomiesAllGo
hi,
you brought me back here with your comment, SIR,
I left because there was nothing more to hear,
but you brought new things to the case now,
very important to help GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TO BE PROVEN INNOCENT HAVING TO SAVE HIS LIFE WHICH WAS ALMOST TAKEN BY TRAVON LOCKING HIM ON THE GROUND ,
PRISONER UNDER HIM SITTING ON HIS STOMACH,
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO.
@WhereDidTravonsHomiesAllGo:
Hmmm, provocative!
Perhaps you are right. Perhaps the Trayvonistas have moved on.
The Crumpsters on the other hand:
And
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/06/trayvon-martin-family-sued_n_1747835.html#slide=791954
BTW the correct spelling is T-R-A-Y-V-O-N as in: Trayvon Martin
@Mike O’Malley:
Ha! We won’t let them “move on”. They put the noose around their neck, let’s make sure they don’t wiggle out of it.
Got that Aye? Got that Mata?
Dr. John, keep up the good work.
@Aye:
You engage in said Ad hominem attacks all the time. You’re the king of insulting people, Aye.
I suggest you keep said attacks to the arguments, not the people making them, okay?
@WhereDidTravonsHomiesAllGo:
Under Florida law Sybrina Fulton was unable to sue third parties for damages unless George Zimmerman was arrested. Now that an arrest, however questionable, has been made:
This rather puzzles me:
because as of March 29, 2012 no arrest had been made and no charges were filed in the incident. Moreover the weight of available the evidence at the end of March clearly raised a likelihood that Trayvon Martin was the actual assailant who used deadly force against the neighborhood watchmen. One wonders whether Ben Crump applied pressure to state victims compensation board.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/06/13149803-mother-of-trayvon-martin-seeks-damages-compensation-in-sons-death?lite
@Mike O’Malley:
Back in May:
Good lord, how can we countenance “increased immunity in self-defense cases” for victims of street crime?!
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/11/2794656/trayvon-martins-mother-got-about.html#storylink=cpy
According to the Fulton/Martin family foundation it would appear that the beneficiaries of the foundation have been rather inactive until last month when they held a single fundraiser in Dallas Texas.
A few years back the UK was deep into the rights of the perp over the rights of the homeowner.
People were literally being taught to go cower in a corner, avoid eye contact, point out where all your valuables are and – above all else – don’t resist in any way.
People who acted like men when confronted with an armed home invader were often prosecuted and some were imprisoned.
One elderly woman was the straw that broke that camel’s back.
She retreated to her own roof and then threw a garden gnome at the home invader who had a gun.
Her being liable both criminally and civilly was too much for the British public.
I guess now Brits CAN defend their homes and families.
Here, Obama desires the USA to become more ”European.”
But Europe is learning its lessons and becoming LESS European!
Obama must be a slow learner.
Mike O’ Malley
hi,
all the money they get, did not help the gangsta from killing their own,
or commit crimes, or repeal the drug on the street,
there should be where they start if they claim to help the young turn away from crimes
against the good citizens who are sick and tired of being rob by those criminals,
which again put them candidates to be shot on sight , and again have their parents mourned
their children and claim retribution for the expanses to bury them under a stone guardian angel,
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone: Bee, I appreciate you are no longer typing in all Caps.
Thank you. I mean it.
Take care and continue making progress.
Nan G,
HE IS a slow learner because he is not 100/cent AMERICAN,
he has missed in the smart of AMERICA somewhere on his upbringing,
remember ? when AMERICA was creating so much, they began to build beautiful CASTLES then,
so rich they where and all the people where working and feed their many siblings,
which became the one to continue to advance the creative research to get them to the moon.
and the roots grown and multiply.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Thank you Beez.
@Nan G:
Thank you Nan
One wonders why the misdirected effort. Why on earth do we need “Americans to appeal to their respective governors to eliminate laws that offer increased immunity in self-defense cases”.
In the USA there are 14.82 murders per 100K by blacks versus 2.17 per 100K for whites. Almost as many Black Americans are murders as are all other racial classifications of Americans combined, despite the fact that there are Black Americans comprise around 11% of the population as a whole. Yet around 93% of the time it is Blacks killing Blacks.
In 2009 in one on one homicide blacks killed around 2-1/2x as many white (454) as Whites killed Blacks (209) . In population of over 313,000,000 those FBI statistics demonstrate the white on Black homicide is rare.
The odds of an average person living in the US being struck by lightning in a given year is 1/1,000,000. The odds of an average black person living in the US being a victim of one on one White on Black homicide in a given year is 7/1,000,000. Yet “laws that offer increased immunity in self-defense cases” are supposed to be THE problem!
Good lord! One wonders why advocates such as these do not use a modicum of intellectual honesty!
@Mike O’Malley: Mike, If you look at the cities that lead in murder statistics you will find commonality in their city governments. As is becoming more evident Liberal mayors and councilmen would rather their PDs under report the incidence of murders than hold a client population and perennial voting bloc responsible and admit their social program’s failure. In many ways it mirrors the current US policy in the Mideast of payouts to a society/culture that is incompatible with any other. Their govt. funding of failed and bloated social programs has produced a professionally unproductive underclass that has institutionalized sloth, criminality, fraud, ignorance and illegitimacy as social norms.
Mike O’ Malley
hi, I think the problem is not the stand your ground and shoot the attacker,
but the OUTRAGEOUS ACTIONS which follow to prove it was really an attack,
this is overdone, and the one who profit from it are the people who are processing that proof,
NAMING; FROM JUDGE TO PROSECUTOR , , TO LAWYER FOR THE JUDGE, AND THE OTHER,
THE ONLY MOST IMPORTANT ARE THE lawyer for the ACCUSE , yes the ACCUSE,
EVEN IF HE DID THE RIGHT ACTION TO SAVE HIS LIFE BY KILLING ATTACKER,
LOOK AT GEORGE ZIMMERMAN EVENTS, IT IS APPAWLING HE WAS HANDLE LIKE A CRIMINAL,
HAD TO TAKE THE SHIT FROM THE JUDGE FURIOUS OUT OF CONTROL FOR A MONEY DIFFERENCE OF NUMBER, HE CHANGE THE BOND TO ONE MILLION AND PUT HIM IN JAIL AS A DANGEROUS CRIMINAL,
And all this time the accuse has done what he could to get rid of his attacker, and the only way was to kill him, even that he waited till the dangerous end seconds not minutes, his life is shattered by the memory,
plus he was no more a person defending his life but a made up criminal profile for life,
because of that JUDGE AND PROSECUTOR , PUBLICLY DEFAME HIM,
A LIFE OF A GOOD MAN BROKEN UNTIL HE DIE HE WILL CARRY THAT MARK,
JUST LIKE THE 88.8 MILLIONS OF FELONS IN AMERICA, ON THE DOLE OF GOVERNMENT, MOST OF THEM DON’T WANT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BECOME UNEMPLOYABLE BY BUSYNESS AND BIG COMPANY AFRAID TO HAVE THEIR INSURANCE BOOST UP, AND THE SOCIETY CRUEL LOOK DOWN AT THEM WHICH ARE AMERICANS AS BEING ALL UNWORTHY,
ALL IN THE SAME BAG, EVEN MINOR BEHAVIOR WHICH DON’T REPRESENT ANY DANGER FOR SOCIETY ARE NOT FORGAVE AND SHUN WHEN THEY LOOK FOR WORK, THEY ARE PUT DOWN OVER AN NON AMERICAN, EVEN AN ILLEGAL WILL GET THAT PLACE,
THIS 88.8 MILLIONS MUST BE DEALT WITH, THEY ARE LIVING AMONG AMERICANS JUST LIKE THEM,
THEY HAVE PAID FOR THEIR MINOR MISCHIEF, AND DEMAND THE RIGHT TO A JOB,
AND THEY DESERVE IT MORE THAN ANY FOREIGNER,
BECAUSE THEY ARE SMART AND ABLE AND READY TO SHOW THEIR SKILLS,
HOW DARE AMERICA TAKE A FOREIGNER TO FILL IN THEIR RIGHTFULLY SPACE AS AMERICAN,