What the media doesn’t want you to know about Trayvon Martin [Reader Post]

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When a story regarding the Trayvon Martin death appears, it is almost universally accompanied by this image:

It is of a Trayvon Martin years younger than he really was. And it’s not accurate. Dan Linehan has done some sleuthing and found a much different picture of Trayvon Martin than the one being forced down our throats. The real Trayvon Martin is being scrubbed as you read this.

This is a more recent image of Trayvon Martin

And so is this:

Twitter

It seems that Tray was also on Twitter, but his account seems to have been recently deleted by his family or friends.

His screen name was “@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA, as you can see from the twitpic account screenshot above. He was also a member of a twitter hash group #team4dat.

At first, I was skeptical that anyone would maintain an account with that sort of derogatory slur in the title, but after doing some research, it’s apparent that it was Trayvon’s account.

The account was in existence long before the shooting occurred a few weeks ago, and was deleted only recently, there are still dozens of references to @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA in google’s cache.

The associated twitpic account matches the account name and is still online at the time of publication. Most of the pics were uploaded months ago, so this account was associated with Trayvon long before the shooting took place.

Several of Tray’s friends have been very open about referring to Trayvon using that account as well. His cousin, who is quite active on Twitter, refers to Trayvon more than a dozen times using the @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA nickname.

See also here and here

Apparently the account has been terminated but Google has lots of cached references.

Trayvon referred to himself as “Slimm” in his Twitter account and his Facebook account.

He had friends in gangs, if he was not in one himself, and there is a question as to whether Martin was active in the drug trade.

On Facebook on February 5th, his friend posts on his wall asking to talk business. Trayvon says he doesn’t have a phone available and his friend says, “Damn were u at a nigga needa plant.”

George Zimmerman, on the other hand, doesn’t warrant the same treatment. The picture the media offers all the time is this one:

We don’t get to see George as a 13 year old. We don’t even get to see George nicely dressed.

George Zimmerman refers to himself as “Hispanic”, but the media has created a new ethnicity for George Zimmerman- the “white Hispanic.”

As Linehan notes, there has been extensive investigation by the media into Zimmerman but there has been little to none into Trayvon Martin.

Exit questions- Why is the media so afraid to accurately portray Trayvon Martin as he really was? Is it because people would stop wondering why George Zimmerman took an interest in him? Why did the media need to create the “white Hispanic” label for George Zimmerman?

Finally-if George Zimmerman is a “white Hispanic”, is Barack Obama a “white black”?

UPDATE by Curt

The Daily Caller obtains Trayvon Martin’s tweets

UPDATE by Curt

New Black Panther Party leader arrested in DeKalb Co.

UPDATE by Curt

NEW BLACK PANTHERS OFFER $1 MILLION FOR ZIMMERMAN’S CAPTURE

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This whole episode is like some twisted version of that Chappelle Show skit of the Tiger Woods Racial Draft.

If Zimmerman won a Nobel – would he still be considered White. If Zimmermans last name was Garcia, would we have heard about it. Would this even be a story in Detroit, Comptom, or Camden?

Speaking of ghetto – hi Kesha.

NO_LIMIT_NIGGA’s most ironic tweets:
-We don’t think about the consequences of doing something till after we do it
-Some ppl didnt even live to see 2012 R.I.P to dem

Kid lived a thug life, did you see his golden grill?, highlights from his twitter feed:
-Triple Beam Dreams
-Bumpn 2 pac in da am
-@No_LIMIT_NIGGA fuck dat wea da weedman at??
-All We Do Is Smoke && Fuck
-Pussy.Money.Weed
-And I smoke alot weed to keep these bitches off my mind!!
-GIV U A RUN 4 YO MONEY…. NAW, IM JUS GON TAK YO SHIT
-@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA wen u gon get da slugss back?

Read through the posts on this thread.
Then answer the question: are participants talking to one another, or past one another?
It seems to be a situation of much more heat than light.
Not knowing the facts, making them up seems somewhat futile.
Do the eyewitness accounts have nothing to do with this situation?
Is there a legal process in place?
Or do we simply employ lynch law and string up Zimmerman?
The bounty will be paid, and Zimmerman will be hanged, that much is certain.
He has been declared guilty by mob rule.

All of these “New” photos of Trayvon Martin proves that he is a little boy. He is emulating his favorite rapper(s). Did you know, “No-Limit” is the name of Master P record label. Master P son has taken it over. That gold you see in his mouth IS THE LABELS’ TRADEMARK, plus, anyone (in cities like Miami) can buy those “Grilles” at your nearest flea-Market. Keep putting these pictures out. They show the world that Trayvon Martin was a little boy, doing what little boys do, PERIOD.

Furthermore, you can go on any of the famous “social-network” websites, and see millions of kids (of all nationalities) Trayvon Martins age, posting the same type of photos. Some of the white and latino kids post far, far, worst photos. So, you racist-F U C K S out there in cyber-space, do not try to use those photos, because it will not work. To the non-racist people, lets get Justice for all the Trayvon Martins now, and in the future.

HEY retire05, if Trayvon Martins’ Mom and Dad, want to (or has) trademarked his name and
likeness, what does that have to do with GEORGE ZIMMERMANS INNOCENTS OR GUILT. It is a smart
thing to do. This case has gained international attention. Therefore, every rapper and their
MAMA is going to try and parley on this attention. So, the parents are smart for trademarking.
By trademarking, they can have a level of control with the images and messages that IS GOING TO
persist. It has already started, check YOUTUBE. EVEN KIM KARDASHIN HAS STARTED HER CAMPAIGN.

Like I say to all the racist-pigs, iF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE RACIST-SCUM BAGS, TAKE A FIST FULL OF
YOUR PROPAGANDA, AND SHOVE IT DEEP INSIDE YOUR A S S HOLE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IT ORIGINATED, AND THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGS.

HEY retire05, there is a law for following people, it’s called “STALKING”. IT IS A FELONY TO STALK ANYONE, ESPECIALLY A MINOR. IT BECOMES A “HATE CRIME” FELONY, WHEN YOU CALL YOUR VICTIM A
“F U C K I N G_C OO N”.
The facts still remain, the racist-scum GEORGE ZIMMERMAN knowingly, exit his vehicle with a loaded nine-mm gun TO PURSUE A MINOR. DO YOU KNOW ANYONE, WHO PURSUE “CHILDREN” WITH A LOADED NINE-MM GUN, TO EXACT PUNISHMENT ON THAT “CHILD.” The racist-pig GEORGE ZIMMERMAN knowingly stalked and chased a minor. As a result, the racist-dog GEORGE ZIMMERMAN killed the minor. These are FACTS. Facts are not figural, they are not implicative, they are not indicative, they are not denotative, they are not connotative, they are not any other semantics you want to use, PERIOD. FACTS ARE FACTS.
All of these FACTS came straight from the “SANFORD FLORIDA POLICE”, PERIOD.
Now what retire05?

HEY Dr John, I can answer that. Dr John, you asked: ” why did (the racist-dog) Zimmerman get so close, that Martin could cold cock him (first-OF-ALL, we do not know if Trayvon cold-cock Zimmerman. That is propaganda someone PULLED OUT OF THEIR A S S). Back to your question. Lets see. Hmmmmm. This is rocket Science. OH!!! I GOT IT!! THE RACIST-PIG GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WAS CARING A LOADED NINE-MM SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPON. If he provoke this “F U C K I NG_C OO N” HE WILL BLAST THE C OO N WITH HIS LOADED NINE-MM SEMI-AUTOMATIC GUN. Did I get it right DOC? Did I, Did I?

DOC, WITH ALL DO RESPECT, Like I say to all of the racist-pigs in cyber-space, DOC, iF YOU ARE A RACIST-SCUM BAG, TAKE A FIST FULL OF YOUR PROPAGANDA, AND SHOVE IT DEEP INSIDE YOUR A S S HOLE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IT ORIGINATED, AND THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGS. LOOK AT THE FACTS. DOC. LOOK AT THE FACTS. MAYBE YOU CANNOT SEE THE FACTS, BECAUSE IT WAS A BLACK CHILD WHO IS THE VICTIM TODAY. MAYBE, NEXT TIME, IT WILL BE ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN.

@duncandinga:
Stalking.
It requires things that didn’t happen to occur in this case.
Now, when the SEIU folks go to the homes of bankers and stand out front and harass the young teenage child of the banker THAT could be defined more as stalking than anything in this case.

I used to employ store detectives when I was a private investigator.
All they did all day was (according to your definition) ”stalk” people.
Most were innocent but far too many were criminals.
Good thing it is still legal to follow suspicious characters around.
Otherwise thieves will steal you blind!

Oh!
Too late!
Looks like that’s what just happened during a ”rally” in support of Trayvon.
Trayvon supporters swooped into an innocent man’s store and bled him dry.
Should his camera system be allowed to ID each one and should each one be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
Absolutely!

PS, are you aware of the books that are out using part of your handle’s name?
Everytime I see your handle, duncandinga, it reminds me of one of the lines often repeated in those books:
shuck down!
I hope that’s just your nickname and your parents didn’t saddle you with it for real.

@retire05: She counted on that. The SANFORD POLICE said their hands where tied, Hence, the Black panthers invoked their constitutional right.

@duncandinga:

I realize your education level is at AP 3rd grade, but there are laws in Florida that pertain to stalking.

Fla. Stat. s784.048 (considered, and I quote from the statute itself, is a “misdemeanor of the first degree)

Unfortunately, what George Zimmerman did on that night in Sanford, Florida does not met the criterion for prosecution of stalking.

And no, the tape does not show George Zimmerman saying “f*cking c00n”, what it does show is that he is saying “f*cking punks”, which pretty much describes Trayvon Martin, “made nigga”.

As to facts, you would not recognize one if it was tatooed on your forearm. But I am sure that you think your homie talk makes you tough when it only makes you look foolish and of low intellect.

@DrJohn:

I do not believe Zimmerman said that. He said “f**king punks.”

You know, it is really weird listening to the audio of the 911 call from Zimmerman. I saw duncandinga saying that Zimmerman said, “f**cking coons”, and then listened to the audio. That was the first time I listened to it, as well as the first time I’ve seen what he purportedly said. And I heard, “f**cking coons”.

However, since then I saw where other people stated that they heard what you stated Zimmerman said. I then listened to the audio again. Now, it sounds clearly like Zimmerman said, “f**king punks”.

Due to that, I think we all, everyone who has voiced an opinion on this, need to let the police do their job, without outside interference, to determine the exact sequence of events, including what was, or wasn’t, said by either Zimmerman or Martin.

@duncandinga:

The NBP have no Constitutional rights in this case. They are mere onlookers. But they have violated federal law by promoting the kidnapping of a man. With any luck at all, Malik Shabazz will get some gifts from MS-13, the Zetas and La Familia for threatening a Hispanic. We’ll see how tough those black shirted jackboots are then.

@Aye: @Aye:

I don’t need to accuse you of being a racist. You do that just fine with your own words.

So I oppose Trayvon because he’s colored, in your estimation. Then why, pray tell, do I support Zimmerman, who is also colored?

AYE: Well, I mean, I guess…duh.

And don’t forget, the archives here at FA that are chock full of your scribblings.

By all means, show me how I’m the evil white man.

@duncandinga:

A few things here, friend.

-One, no one here is issuing any racist remarks. It is not demeaning to Martin to delve into his past, or his most recent comments and/or pictures. If anything, it is putting a real face to the teenager who was killed, and not the false front the media and the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson, with help from Obama, have presented.

-Two, you are acting exactly as Sharpton, Jackson, and the NBPP stated that Zimmerman himself acted. That is, passing judgment without knowing the full story. Sure you have your “facts”. But unless you are a member of the local PD there in Florida, you don’t actually know any more than the rest of us.

-Three, read what I posted to Dr. J above about the words Zimmerman used. Yes, I heard the racist remark at first. However, after more reading and then listening to the words again, I heard something totally different. At the very least, that means that it isn’t clear exactly what Zimmerman said. It also means that you, me, and everyone else rendering an opinion on it should let the police do their job without the unneeded and unwarranted pressure from anyone else.

-And lastly, this;

Hence, the Black panthers invoked their constitutional right.

Please show me exactly where the NBPP have a constitutional right to issue a “bounty” on Zimmerman. I’ll be waiting patiently.

HEY Dr John, I can answer that. Dr John, you asked: ” why did (the racist-dog) Zimmerman get so close, that Martin could cold cock him (first-OF-ALL, we do not know if Trayvon cold-cock Zimmerman. That is propaganda someone PULLED OUT OF THEIR A S S). Back to your question. Lets see. Hmmmmm. This is rocket Science. OH!!! I GOT IT!! THE RACIST-PIG GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WAS CARRYING A LOADED NINE-MM SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPON. If he provoke this “F U C K I NG_C OO N” HE WILL BLAST THE
C OO N WITH HIS LOADED NINE-MM SEMI-AUTOMATIC GUN. Did I get it right DOC? Did I, Did I?

DOC, WITH ALL DO RESPECT, Like I say to all of the racist-pigs in cyber-space, DOC, iF YOU ARE A RACIST-SCUM BAG, TAKE A FIST FULL OF YOUR PROPAGANDA, AND SHOVE IT DEEP INSIDE YOUR A S S HOLE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IT ORIGINATED, AND THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGS. LOOK AT THE FACTS. DOC. LOOK AT THE FACTS. MAYBE YOU CANNOT SEE THE FACTS, BECAUSE IT WAS A BLACK CHILD WHO IS THE VICTIM TODAY. MAYBE, NEXT TIME, IT WILL BE ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN.

Can someone please take out the trash? Duncandinga has stunk up this place long enough.

@duncandinga: Either debate the facts without the foul language or you will be shown the door. First and last warning.

The right of self-defense is the first law of nature. The right of preservation is the second law of nature. The right to pursue happiness is aanother law of nature. The right to pursue peace is another law of nature. THE NINTH AMENDMENT COVER ALL OF THE “LAW OF NATURAL” RIGHTS. The racist-scum bag GEORGE ZIMMERMAN mudered a “black” CHILD. Hence, the Black Panther Party, PERIOD. This amemdment is the tip of the iceburg. TO ALL YOU RACIST-SCUM BAGS.

@duncandinga: You said:

So, the parents are smart for trademarking. By trademarking, they can have a level of control with the images and…

Speaking as a father of eight, I could never, ever, EVER make money off of the name of one of my children who had met their tragic death.

That is disgusting, not smart.

@Curt: What foul language? Are you referring to terms like racist-scumbags, or is it racist-dogs, or maybe you’re referring to racist-pigs, or is it racist-bastards. You cannot be suggesting PULLING PROPAGANDA OUT OF YOUR A S S TO BE FOUL LANGUAGE, ARE YOU? Is it the word A S S that bothers you? The FCC as denoted that A S S is a mammal. So, CURT, tell me what language I used that is foul. If all of the racist-pigs, the racist-dogs, the racist-bastards, and the racist-scumbags have a problem with those terms, then stop being a dog-racist, or a scumbag-racist, or a racist-bastard, or a racist-pig, PERIOD.

@duncandinga: Ok then….you’re gone. Buh bye

@Savannah: A police DISPATCHER does not have the authority or training to order you to blow your nose. Anything they tell you is only a strong suggestion.

@Old Ms Miller: I bet they were all wearing hoodies, too. The number one choice of apparel for those types of situations and armed robberies!!

@duncandinga: Even a 6’3″, 150 lb+ BOY can do alot of damage. It takes less than 14 lbs of force to pull a trigger. Jeez. A lot of boxers are less than that weight and I doubt anyone on this list could beat one of them.

@Curt: Thank you!!

All I can say to this is that there are two sides to every story. I don’t agree with Zimmerman being innocent by virtue of self defense because he is the one who caused the altercation. The police specifically told him NOT to follow him, but he did anyway and facilitated an avoidable conflict that ended up deadly. I mean, how would you feel if you were minding your own business on the phone and some intimidating guy was following you? That situation called for self defense on BOTH sides. However, I also don’t agree with the way the media takes everything to the extreme just to get a popular story. Zimmerman is not a white man, he is mixed. What he did may have been racial PROFILING (as in, look at this black kid in a hoodie, he’s probably a thug, let me go investigate), but not actual hate crime. And at the same time, Treyvon was not an angel. He was NOT the 12 year old boy that was pictured, he was a 17 year old teen who made a lot of bad decisions and frankly ruined his own reputation.
However, background is not the issue that should be addressed. Zimmerman is a grown man who should have handled that situation better. Treyvon was still a teen. Teens do stupid things. I don’t believe that the racial issue is with Zimmerman, the issue is with the police department not even questioning the situation further and allowing someone to KILL someone without a real motive. No matter how sketchy Treyvon’s background is, he did not deserve death. There are a lot of drug users out there. A lot young and dumb teens who grow up too late. Does that mean we should just off all of them and say that they deserved it because of their mistakes and how they look to other people? It is a disgrace that a life was lost and nothing was being done to even investigate at one point. THAT is the issue. The media and everyone else (especially black people) needs to stop looking at the surface and dig deeper into the situation.
And a side note: I am a black person writing this. Sometimes I feel disgraced at people up there like @kesha and all these other ignorant “black power” people who make us all look terrible.

GeeK says:

The police specifically told him NOT to follow him

March 28, 2012 at 8:48 am
.

That’s not true. That is a distortion. It is misleading. What the police dispatcher said was, “we don’t need you to do that”

Zimmerman, who is white, had told a 911 dispatcher he was following the black teen because he looked suspicious. “We don”t need you to do that,” the dispatcher said.
[Wall Street Journal online]

Frankly, It seems to me that the distortion you used Mr Geek is useful in order to make it appear that Mr. Zimmerman was out of line and thus the instigator and likely aggressor. Without this distortion it seems unlikely that one could fairly say:

I don’t agree with Zimmerman being innocent by virtue of self defense because he is the one who caused the altercation.
[GeeK says]

@Mike O’Malley Ok, well my source information was wrong, so I apologize for my misinformation. However, he was still at least ADVISED not to peruse him, but he did anyway. My reason for my opinion is that the altercation could have been avoided or handled in a different way.

GeeK says:

the issue is with the police department not even questioning the situation further and allowing someone to KILL someone without a real motive.
[GeeK says:]

One might think that, if one were decked by a sucker punch whereafter one finds oneself on one’s back with a violent 6’2′ male on top of oneself beating one and pounding one’s head onto the ground, one would likely find within one’s self a “real motive” to defend one’s self with a firearm.

Moreover, as the police identified SIX witnesses at the scene of the stooting one would expect that the police would have engaged in substantial “questioning (of) the situation”, no?

Moreover since Mr. Zimmernan as subjected to FIVE hours of intensive questioning by a police investigator back in the station house one would expect that the police would have engaged in substantial “questioning (of) the situation”, no?

The report, filed by Sanford police officer Ricardo Ayala and published online Tuesday by the Chicago Tribune, indicates that there were at least six witnesses — three men and three women — who saw or heard some part of the events that led to Martin’s death. They ranged in age from 19 to 56

March 28, 2012
Police incident report fills in details on Trayvon Martin shooting

Thank you Mr Geek.

I missed your reply. I also appreciate your rely. Hopefully my second comment will provide foot for thought.

I’ll add a caution for all. It would be wise to allow this to be handled via due-process under the law. Clearly the MSM, the Martin family advocates and others are attempting to manipulate frame the issues prejudicially and a lynch mob atmosphere of accusation and counter accusation has arisen. This is precisely the situation that due-process under the law was designed to address.

@Mike O’Malley:

Moreover since Mr. Zimmernan as subjected to FIVE hours of intensive questioning by a police investigator back in the station house one would expect that the police would have engaged in substantial “questioning (of) the situation”, no?

You’re correct.

And lead homicide investigator Chris Serino wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter at that time.

He was ultimately overruled by the state’s attorney’s office:

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.

::snip::

Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman’s version of events.

Here’s a portion from the report Mike posted.

Officer Ayala described Zimmerman’s alleged crime as a violation of Florida statute 782.11, titled “Unnecessary killing to prevent unlawful act.”

“Whoever shall unnecessarily kill another, either while resisting an attempt by such other person to commit any felony, or to do any other unlawful act, or after such attempt shall have failed, shall be deemed guilty of manslaughter, a felony of the second degree,” the law reads.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/27/police-incident-report-fills-in-details-on-trayvon-martin-shooting/#ixzz1qR0CveLg

@GeeK:

I mean, how would you feel if you were minding your own business on the phone and some intimidating guy was following you?

GeeK

Thank you for your input. I cannot help but wonder why Trayvon wouldn’t simply say “I am visiting my father’s girlfriend.” Even if Zimmerman would follow with “where does she live?” Martin could have easily answered. That surely would have defused the situation.

Aye I was about to post info re. chief homicide investigator Serino’s desire to file homicide charges but you’re out in front.
Speaking as a former Marine Officer believing in the need for at least a minimum fitness level for those who protect and serve, why do so many of these “security personnel” seem so grossly out of shape. This 28 year old guard would seem helpless without a weapon.Just my opinion.

@Mike O’Malley Now you are just nitpicking. Different sources say different things, and you know what, after seeing all of your evidence I should probably read up a little bit more. Some sources (as in witnesses) saw that Zimmerman was on top of Martin’s back in a straddled position. Some sources say what you have said. Nobody really knows. But this does NOT change my opinion and main argument. Someone DIED. The situation could have been avoided or taken up in a different way. Zimmerman was perusing martin because he felt his neighborhood was threatened, martin felt threatened because he was being persued. Now, I have a feeling that you will nitpick about this last statement and give me another lashing on my information, but honestly NOBODY knows what happened, and you can’t believe what is always said. I feel like it takes 2 to tango, but honestly one of the two just took things too far from the beginning, and THAT is what should be considered. Zimmerman put himself and Treyvon in that type of position. And that should be taken into consideration.

@Mike O Malley I just saw your post, I apologize if mine seemed to be a little aggressive, I guess I took your post as being aggressive toward me. I understand your take. I apologize again. I just hate to see things like this getting blown up for all the wrong reasons.

@Richard Wheeler:

I understand (and agree) with the point that you’re making about the physique of a large number of security personnel. Heck, many law enforcement officers fall into that same category. There are a couple of Sheriff’s deputies here locally that would have a hard time chasing someone across a street much less over a long distance.

As far as Zimmerman is concerned however, be careful judging him by the picture that is being most widely circulated across the Interwebz. That photograph is from several years ago and, according to multiple things I’ve read, he has lost quite a bit of weight since then.

Well now I’m got to take my hat off in appreciation for your civility in the public square. Thank You again Mr. GeeK.

Getting to tone just right in a comment thread is nigh impossible (for me at least) .

This whole situation troubles me as I sense a building lynch mob atmosphere. Clearly all of the material facts have yet to be disclosed. Clearly the heirs of the Martin estate have a vested financial interest in compelling the home owners association to make a substantial settlement offer in their civil litigation. So it seems to me that we all need (myself included) to keep reminding ourselves not to rush to judgment. Mr. Zimmerman might or might not be guilty of anything. Mr. Zimmerman might or might not be a scapegoat. It it important not to become emotionally invested in the charges and counter-charges, IMHO, we have no reason to presume that we now have sufficient knowledge and perspective to conclude we know how this is going to play out.

Have a good day Mr. GeeK

And thanks for your conduct in the public square. 🙂

@Aye:

be careful judging him by the picture that is being most widely circulated across the Interwebz.

Won’t happen, Aye. Rich has already judged Zimmerman and found him guilty. Now, he isn’t pushing it as far as some others from above, such as calling Zimmerman a racist, but the judgement is still there. Rich has repeatedly referred to Zimmerman as fat or overweight.

Both Martin and Zimmerman deserve the benefit of the doubt of the doubt on this and the police must be allowed to conduct any investigation without outside influence, from either side. This hasn’t happened. Instead, the initial reporting, and comments from the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson, portrayed both Martin and Zimmerman as being very different than what the truth is. It isn’t a surprise that there is a pushback against that narrative, just as it isn’t a surprise that the pushback is being refuted, either.

Any violence or other criminal behaviour that stems from this case falls squarely on the shoulders of the media, Sharpton, Jackson, and the NBPP.

@Mike O’Malley And thank you sir for keeping it civil, unlike most. Hopefully America will wake up one day and stop hating each other… and maybe the media will stop inciting it. Then again… maybe not.

And by the way, its Ms. GeeK 😉

Robust discussion = good
Respect for rule of law and law enforcement officers = good
Respect for your fellow American = even better

I’m going to have to move along but before I go here is some info I just encountered Ms. GeeK that might interest you. The Seminole County State Attorney’s Office had not cleared Mr. Zimmerman. The investigation was on going and a grand-jury was empaneled. It sounds as though Mr. Zimmerman was actuallynot out of the woods …

“If you go with what was reported in the press the first night, there would have been an arrest right away, but obviously something gave investigators pause,” said a source in the Seminole State Attorney’s office who did not want to speak publicly, because the case is now assigned to a different prosecutor. “We get capias warrants all the time. That doesn’t mean we file charges right away. We investigate to see if it’s appropriate. That’s the responsible thing to do.’’:

Cops asked for arrest warrant in Trayvon Martin case, but Seminole State Attorney’s office held off

John Galt As you pointed out I ‘ve not said this killing was racially motivated. I don’t know Zimmerman’s heart or some other’s here at F. A.
If it turns out this young man carrying a lethal weapon and entrusted with “security” isn’t obese (I’ve seen 5-9 and well north of 200 ) I’ll apologize on that point.
The obvious problem is a D.A. over riding a lead homicide investigator’s rec. to file manslaughter charge and then halting any further investigation. Bad decision? Lets find out.

J.G A little horn toot I got 3 of 4 O.S.U.,Louisville and obvious favorite Kentucky. Had 6 of 8 of elite 8

@Mike O’Malley:

That is what I have been saying. Just because he hasn’t been arrested and charged doesn’t mean he won’t be.

@Hard Right:

I know I read somewhere today that there was a Grand Jury empaneled as Mike O’Malley said in #44 but that the state’s attorney’s office(?) pulled the plug on it. (Going strictly off of memory here but I am almost sure that is right.)

Don’t have time to research it at the moment but I think it was in the same article about the homicide investigator wanting to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter.

Will try and look it up later.

Thanks Aye. I think I had the sequence of events backwards on that.

Those of you insisting Zimmerman is innocent, he may be. The problem is, his actions stripped away certain protections he would have enjoyed had he behaved differently.
If you are upset about that fact, blame the laws/legal system.

The biggest thing the media doesn’t want you to know about Trayvon is that he’s a lousy poster boy for the epidemic of violence against black Americans. In 2009, according to the FBI, 352 black Americans were killed by known white people. But over 11 times as many–4,094–were killed by other black Americans. But, unfortunately, as the President of the Urban League of Greater Miami said this week:

When there’s more black-on-black crime, there’s no reaction. … [D]eath is only important when it is done by a white person.

http://crybelovedcountry.com/2012/03/black-on-black-violence-the-elephant-in-the-room/