Obama Says Tea Party Are A Bunch Of Racists

@richard wheeler: I know Goldwater was Episcopalian but his father was originally Jewish who converted to Episcopalian. His paternal grandparents were married in a synagogue if I’m not mistaken. According to his bio on Wikipedia (not that it’s a top notched source) he referred to himself as Jewish on occassion. No doubt he wasn’t a practicing Jew like Lieberman.

McCain took a hit in SC and it was wrong but two wrongs don’t make a right and the Republicans didn’t run him out of the party like the Democrats did to Lieberman. I didn’t agree with a lot of Lieberman’s positions, but he put country over politics with regards to the war effort and will always be a patriot in my books for that. He will be sorely missed.

I’m well aware that white refer to themselves in hyphenated terms and the same rule applies to them- if they are Americans and not dual citizens, then they are Americans. And in most cases, when they refer to themselves as hyphenated Americans it’s in reference to their nationality not in order to be PC. The point I was making is that we don’t refer to White people as a whole as European-Americans, they are either referred to as Whites or Americans. Why not refer to Blacks the same way as either Blacks or Americans?

@richard wheeler:

You just reminded me of how often I see Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers…..still.
I never hear Democrats say they hate John Edwards.
I wonder why that is.

Hey Rich. you may be right in arguing that point, in general conservatives seem to be a fairly forgiving and sensible creed and probably don’t have hate dwelling within them. Truthfully It may be difficult to find even one conservative who hates McCain.

However I myself am not a fan of the nicetys of language, the only rules I perscribe to is no racial words and I try to go easy on the swears and insults; so beyond that I’m not one to tone down my rhetoric; as far “eschewing” is concerned.

@richard wheeler:

IF there’s a single F.A. BLOGGER who hates John Mc Cain I’d be surprised and would like to hear why.

I am wondering why you would even question the people who post comments here on whether or not they hate McCain. Is it a common theme amongst liberals to ‘hate’ those who have either disagreed with you, or have failed you in some way? And don’t say you don’t, because otherwise you wouldn’t have even brought it up.

Hate must be an operative action amongst liberals, hence the characterizations of their opponents as hitler, the use of derogatory terms, the violent rhetoric and physical attacks. They then project this on conservatives, claiming we must ‘hate’ those we disagree with. It’s no wonder we believe liberals act like immature children when they fail to get their way.

My choice of words was as follows:

“You know as far as Obama having won the election and why; I was living in the US during most of the Bush presidency, and I never thought I would see the day John Mcain would get the republican nomination. He served his country well during the Vietnam war and god bless him for that, but most republicans hated him prior to his running for president- even Limbaugh. All things considered, I don’t think he had the full support of every member of the tea party. Of course I don’t have data to back that up, but its a safe observation.”

But I think you are right Rich, conservatives are in general not the type to show “hate”.

MR IRONS Zac said Limbaugh hated Mac #61. I said “I doubt it” see #51

I’m aware of what Zac wrote, but it seems you need glasses as you can’t tell he was using quotation marks to indicate a quote. For someone who tries to be, “clear and accurate” you sure do read into things that are not there and then spin past events into things that are fictional to support your cases.

We had some of the same people (ex-POWs and family of MIAs) here in AZ pushing the meme that McCain was a traitor who collaborated with the enemy.
As for his role in the S&L/Keating, it stunk to high heaven. The only thing that saved him was that he wasn’t stupid enough to overtly break the law when pushed by Keating. I was living in AZ when it happened and believe me, it didn’t look good.

@richard wheeler: dick, you sure seem to like to stir the pot – like so many of the liberal moonbats who frequent FA.

@richard wheeler:

a fiscal moderate

This one needs some explaining.

Zac “group you at the airport” are you a rock star? For starters I believe in Civil Rights, Human Rights,Freedom of Religion and Speech a Free Press and protection of the environment.I like “W” personally,a fraternity brother and fellow drunken DKE as was his dad and Gerry Ford.
Fiscally I’d abolish the I.R.S and replace with consumption tax.I believe people should be taxed on their spending not their earnings or savings.Moderate view??
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@richard wheeler:

To go along with my comment on #71:

You said:

a fiscal moderate

In regards to fiscal conservatism:

Burke, in his Reflections on the Revolution in France, articulated the principles of fiscal conservatism:

…[I]t is to the property of the citizen, and not to the demands of the creditor of the state, that the first and original faith of civil society is pledged. The claim of the citizen is prior in time, paramount in title, superior in equity. The fortunes of individuals, whether possessed by acquisition or by descent or in virtue of a participation in the goods of some community, were no part of the creditor’s security, expressed or implied…[T]he public, whether represented by a monarch or by a senate, can pledge nothing but the public estate; and it can have no public estate except in what it derives from a just and proportioned imposition upon the citizens at large.

In other words, a government doesn’t have the right to run up large debts and then throw the burden on the taxpayer; the taxpayers’ right not to be taxed oppressively takes precedence even over paying back debts a government may have imprudently undertaken.

Now, fiscal(economic) liberalism is not defined as that which most people would believe:

Economic liberalism is the economic component of classical liberalism. It is an economic philosophy that supports and promotes laissez-faire economics and private property in the means of production. Proponents of economic liberalism believe political freedom and social freedom are inseparable with economic freedom, and use philosophical arguments promoting liberty to justify economic liberalism and the free market. Although economic liberalism is supportive of government regulation to a certain degree, it tends to oppose government intervention in the free market that inhibits free trade and competition. Economic liberalism contrasts with mercantilism, the social market model, economic planning, socialism, and fascist third-way economics.

That isn’t what liberals are about these days. A more correct, modern-liberal, economic theory is rooted more in Marxist theory than in anything resembling capitalism or free-market practices.

This is the reason I asked for you to define “fiscal moderate”, as it seems to be a made-up term, either by you or others, to make yourself out to be somewhere in the ‘middle’ of any discussion revolving around economics.

No, I’m no rock star. Don’t play an instrument, don’t even listen to the radio. Thanks for your compliment though!

What I was saying was that social liberalism allows the TSA to grope everyone. The government has us by the balls. You are obviously talking about some other social liberalism…

I concur with almost everything you wrote, why do we clash on so many different issues then Rich?

Personally I never drink, I’m an athlete, so the only part I disagree with is your stance on “drunken frat boys” that’s it…..

@johngalt: you make a good point here. look how many lefties hate Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and they have never done any thing but tell it like it is. They never accused everyone on the left as being racists. They never created an environment that put so many out of work or raised energy prices so high more will likely be out of work soon. Why does the left hate someone who just has different views then they?

During my divorce, I was very distraut. One of the neighbors was over after one bout with my ex. I told him I didn’t understand why she hated me. He told me that I always did the right things concerning my sons. I correctly predicted future events that were based on historical events or action. He said she hates you for being right when it clashes with what she wants to do. He said she knows you are right, but hates you for it!

Maybe that is why the lefties hate Palin. She accurately predicted this energy crisis that will get much worse and she predicted the continued unemployment rates. She accurately labeled the “death panels” in Obama care that also has been proven to be true. Somewhere you can throw in climate issues, too! Maybe they hate because others are right and they know it!

@richard wheeler: Well little dickie, is the price of oil going up since we prevented drilling? Yes. Has brest cancer patients been denied a drug that actually worked basically condeming them to death? yes I would say those were only a few of her major correct predictions!

Missed the point again RW.

Mr Irons Zac and I are in agreement about our discussion .What part are you having a problem with.Maybe the fact the discusion took place on two different stories?I’ve said and will repeat I believe Repubs and Limbaugh(and by extension those here at FA) DO NOT HATE MAC.Can I be any clearer?

By the way, Obama didn’t say that you’re a bunch of racists, but I will tell you something. You are a bunch of racists. What you’re showing is that you hate the idea of a black president more than you hate your suffering country. Every super power in the world provides health care to it’s people. Are we saying we want to go back to the dark ages. Most of you tea party morons are half dead old people who don’t have shit. I haven’t seen one face in the tea party anywhere of any other nationality. How could you possibly represent americans when you have zero diversity in your group. Hello! Maybe because noone else shares your selfish racist perspectives. You people are the modern day barbarians that are going to destroy modern day Rome. When you think you have won, you will have destroyed this great nation with your selfishness. Repent and believe the gospel!

Interesting that we’re back to this after Bozo’s speech and ranting session the other night.

i was just wondering though. I have more than once referred to this clown in the Oval Office as a Marxist/ Leninist/ hard left Socialist wanna be dictator. I make that assertion based on his words, actions and associations. As the Commies in the past have been referred to as Reds, could that possibly mean I’m bigoted against red people? Is that the racism members of the Tea Party are guilty of? I’m really curious as to that because never once in my rantings or for that matter in so many others who express their despite towards the Anti-American agenda he espouses have I seen a mention of race.

We have in fact mentioned what appears to be racist positions taken by members of his administration. they as they were appointed by him are extension of his stances. But I don’t see anyone talking about his color. Oops! I mean no one but the leftist morons who when they have no legitimate argument will always throw out the race card! either way, I await an answer. As I despise the Reds, does that make me a racist? (For you libbies out there, this is what I would normally call caustic satire. Not sure if educated elites would understand that though)

@Leo: #85
I don’t belong to any religion, and I am a Tea Partier, and have been to many Washington DC protests and other places. If you ever come to one of our protests all you will hear is how we want the government to do ONLY what it is supposed to to. Nothing more.

A lot of the poor are poor because they got a GOVERNMENT education and some of them can’t even fill out a job application. An educated person can take care of themselves. The politicians want uneducated people who depend on the government for welfare. The more welfare recipients there are, the more votes if they are promised more money. A lot of people just don’t want to work for their money.

Do you and others have the right to make the rest of us pay higher taxes because you want to help the poor? Let’s set it up so that each person can decide how much of their check goes to the poor and have the government deduct it from YOUR check. That way YOU decide where YOUR money goes and I decide where MY money goes. Are you one of the government recipients? Is that why you want the welfare money continued?

Before you complain about tax breaks for the rich, find out what percentage they pay. Most of them pay a lot higher percentage tax than you do. A lot of them have left the country, and more are considering it. The reason a lot of companies have moved to other countries is because our corporate taxes are the highest in the world.

You are a true liberal when you say it is Bush’s fault. Did you know that after the Bush tax cuts the Federal revenue was higher than before the tax cuts? That means they had more money coming in than they did before the cuts. You will never hear that from the propaganda media.

How could that be? The more money you leave for the individual and company, the more money they have to spend. Them spending their money creates jobs at the places they spend it. The government taking the money off the top means less for them to spend, thus less to buy things from businesses, meaning that businesses won’t have the money to expand or hire more employee.

I don’t belong to any political party, so I can condemn or defend any of them. The democratic and republican party have lowered their standards so that you can’t tell them apart, so I call them republicrats.

We need to get rid of the whole bunch and start over. Any politician who hasn’t tried to put Social Security back into it’s own interest drawing account like it used to be is telling all of us that they don’t care about the retiree’s future. That is just more money for them to spend.