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@MataHarley: I thought that diving off the deep end of the pool was pretty bold until I read a few postings. WAAAAAYYYY Too much drama for me.
OT, that’s not very sporting of them.
Mata, dost thou question true humor of epicurean and sensuous tastes? Or is my drama too complex with its divers subplots and multiple tangents some revealing peripeteia, others leaving the reader standing isolated and alone wondering whether they have been tricked by believing a meiosis of conflicting terms or if they have should feel an epiplexis that has escaped the reader. Quick an answer. ROFL
22 Statistics That Prove The Middle Class Is Being Systematically Wiped Out Of Existence In America
Just a set of facts. How we interpret them varies.
@Zac:
Ew, going to pass on that one, still sad from reading about the anniversary of Hans, Sophie Scholl and Christoph Probst executions yesterday.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-white-rose-an-anniversary-of-three-executions/
I think I will buy the book for each of my children, their grandmother is a war bride from Berlin, her father was a Nazi Dr. who basically committed a slow suicide. He picked up tuberculosis and refused medication, he wanted to leave his world faster, he couldn’t bear what was happening or being part of the evil.
The kids are interested in that era of Germany’s history, their grandmother lived through those horrible times. She’s still alive(87 years old), lives out in Long Beach and driving everyone a little crazy with her still very, very strong personality.
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Looks like you all had a great time last night, reading through all your comments this morning was almost as much fun. Nice, very nice group chemistry type of thing we have here! Looking forward to more of these pleasant conversations.
@anticsrocks:
Sounds like you have a good handle on things to start with. I would say take your wife and go to shooting ranges that rent guns. That way you are more likely to get a gun that works well for both of you. Caliber is up to you, but I suggest nothing less than 9mm.
These days I use a Remington 870 12 ga. with 00 buck for home defense. In my case if I missed it would have to go thru multiple walls and a brick fence before it got my neighbor’s. It wouldn’t have much poop left if it did.
For the apocolypse or zombie attack I go with an ak-47. 🙂
@Hard Right: Thanks HR and thanks to everyone who chipped in on answering my question. Great bunch we have here at FA!
Air Rifle, a bit of history.
Girandoni air rifle as used by Lewis and Clark. A National Firearms Museum Treasure Gun.
@Old Trooper2: Thanks OT! That’s the rifle I want. Amazing bit of history that I had never known.
@anticsrocks: Sig Sauer
A bit of trivia for everyone. The lowly .22 Long Rifle is capable of penetrating 9 sheets of drywall. That means a missed shot inside a house would go thru 9.5 walls if it didn’t strike a 2×4. Is there anywhere in your house that is 10 walls thick?
In this day and age you are liable for every shot fired. So even if it’s in legally justified defense of your life, a missed shot that kills your neighbor or other innocent, is likely get you sued.
Old Trooper: I think ranger school looks tough, however why the hell would I want to keep living a boring life, working for a company I don’t believe in, with people I don’t like? The price; temporary discomfort, is a small one to pay compared to the rewards I will receive in this life and the next as a warrior. The price of doing nothing with my life is a far greater one than I’m willing to pay.
@Hard (#66, above). I didn’t know that. Wow. Now I’m imagining a gunfight with two intruders, defending ones self with a semi-automatic with 33 pre-loaded rounds. Tell the neighbors to duck.
On another matter, Tony Blair’s image just got tarnished. The UK releasing the Lockerbie bomber in return for a closer relationship with Libya and BP oil contracts. And that photo of Tony chumming it up with Gaddafi…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359910/Libyan-leader-personally-ordered-Lockerbie-bombing-says-Justice-minister.html?ITO=1490
On another matter, I think that Obama will take a big hit over the Justice Dept no longer enforcing the Defense of Marriage act.
On another matter, removing “unpopular” comments is a really bad idea, for several reasons, and I’m glad that it seems to be going down to defeat (56% to 44%, at last look).
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Missy thanks for the link I e-mailed it to a few people who believe in freedom. we are few and far between but we will continue to carry on the cause of brave people like Hans, Sophie Scholl and Christoph Probst.
@ Skookum,
Actually in Helena the State Legislature convenes from January until the end of April, which brings up the old saw about “We know Your Profession, We are just dickering over the Price…”
Sorry, I just couldn’t resist throwing that out…
@openid.aol.com/runnswim:
You have to be alive to be sued, Larry. One also has to practice marksmanship and other skills in preparation of such things. That way you won’t spray and pray when the time comes. BTW, you can accidently kill your neighbor just as dead with a 10 round magazine.
It’s also better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6. A little gallows humor. (Yes I know a civil trial has less than 12 jurors)
That’s a total riot 🙂 I’m going to work that one into a future dinner table monologue. Thanks!
– LW/HB
Jack Daniels Explains The Deficit
Be Careful with this one!
(draconian!)
Now this comes to the fore…
Are we done fishing that hole or will the “dither factor” decide?
NATO looks to the US for Leadership…is the End of the Coalition of the
WillingReluctant?Bill Clinton carries a lot of extra guilt tonight.
And WHY is oral sex so popular?
Thanks, Bill…….NOT!
@Nan (#75):
Just when I thought I’d seen/heard everything possible having been blamed on Bill Clinton, now we’ve got Nan’s thesis that he’s responsible for oral HPV infections.
Where to begin?
Well, hate to break it to you, Nan, but oral sex was already very popular, long before Monica delivered pizza to Bill and flashed her thong underwear, in the process. If you want to “blame” anyone, a more likely villain was the producer of that iconic 1972 classic “Deep Throat.”
Let’s examine this quote:
All of the above attitudes existed, circa 1995-96, and formed the basis of Clinton’s defense that he never had “sex” with “that woman.” A great many teenagers in the 90s would have agreed that oral sex is not “real sex.”
Absent oral sex, would there be less cancer? Well, the viruses which infect the oral mucosa also infect the cervix, and are the major (virtually sole) cause of cervical (and vaginal and anal) cancer. HPV is also more transmissible to the cervix than it is to the oropharynx (consider the relative violence of oral vs vaginal sex, from the point of view of the receiving tissue). I’d also wager that the transmissibility of HIV and hepatitis B are lower in the mouth, for the same reason. To say nothing of unintended pregnancy and abortion.
Anyway, oral sex is not such a bad thing, even for older people. Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
– LW/HB
Larry, he touted it as not ”real sex.”
But it looks like it has ”real consequences.”
Bill loved to play with the English language.
And sexually active people used his word games to entice more and younger innocents into their first sexual activities.
You can play his word games all you like but it doesn’t change a thing.
And, BTW, the source I used was the liberal NPR.
@Nan:
You say:
I’m not playing word games. Everything I wrote in #75 is true (or at least defensible). What, precisely, was my “word game?”
You state that “sexually active people used his (n.b. Clinton’s) word games to entice more and younger innocents into their first sexual activities.” Admit it, you just made this up. I’m sure that you don’t have a source, reference, link, citation for any study which has shown this statement to be true. There is nothing in your “liberal” NPR story which supports your claim that Bill Clinton is responsible for people having oral sex. The HPV/oral cancer epidemic is old news, anyway. And, anyway, I feel quite confident in asserting that oral sex IS safer than vaginal sex (or anal sex, which Bill didn’t do with Monica and which is also very popular among young people).
Did you also see the following quotation, in the very story you cited?
This doesn’t sound like “sexually active people” “enticing innocents,” by emulating Bill and Monica, does it?
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
@openid.aol.com/runnswim: Doesn’t really remove the comments, just makes it so people have to click something to see it but I don’t have that enabled anymore and it doesn’t look like to many want it.
PULEEEZE offer a feature to post pictures or actual pdf documents.
I know it costs more to do so.
You need to purchase a “picture pak” that comes in several versions ranging from 25 to several thousand pictures.
HOWEVER, the forum administrator has the ability to delete any pictures (Think “old and stale” pictures on days-old posts).
Every old picture you delete means you get a free one to replace it. It’s basically a memory card no different than a video game card. Here’s what the POST REPLY board looks like. See that “full reply editor” button?
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You can also purchase a "pak" that allows YouTube videos to be posted. But you already know this because it's what you use to post those videos embedded in your articles.
Give me a link to a site that has this Nostradamus so I can investigate how to incorporate it.
Edit function still problematic.
If price is of prime consideration, Antics might like to check out the Commander model fromAmeican Tactical Imports. It’s from the Philippines and is a quite solid, well-made gun. It comes from the factory with combat sights, beavertail grip safety, dropped ejectiob port – and retails for $459.99 (It’s got a parkarized finish). It’s a great starter >45 auto.
Moving up a couple of hundred dollars, Springfield Armory’s 1911A1 line is very well-made and SA’s customer service can’t be beat. Go for the “Mil-Spec” Government model, which has the improved sights and dropped ejection port. Their “Champion” is the commander sized model — but it may not come in Mil-Spec, but only in the GI configuration (which isn’t bad as a carry gun. I’ve been carrying a 70Series Combat Commander since 1973 – and it has no bells or whistles; though these days I sometimes opt for the Dan Wesson VBOB, an Ed Brown Bobtail or one of the Sigs – in .45, of course.).
Taurus’ PT1911 is only about $650, and comes with combat sights, dropped ejection port, beavertail grip safety and an ambidextrous safety – all items that are usually add-ons or run the price of the gun way up. And Taurus is a solid manufacturer with a good reputation.
And, as much as I hate to say it, Glock makes some fine, reasonably-priced weapons which will serve admirably – in .45Auto.
There isn’t, actually, a need for someone to spend a thousand dollars or more to get a good, solid basic home defense weapon.
The one thing that I’d warn Antics about is barrel/slide length. Stick with the 5inch Government configuration or the 4inch Commander-length. Under four inches and the gun becomes les reliable and more prone to stoppages/malfunctions. The shorter 3.5 and 3 inch guns are only a *bit* more convenient to carry – but not worth the trouble involved for someone who is not an experienced gun-handler. When carrying – if you intend to get a license to do so – it is not the barrel length that causes a concealment problem (until you get up to 6″ plus), but is the rear corner of the grip. That’s why the Ed Brown Bobtail and Dan Wesson VBOB are so popular.
Since the pistola debate has been beat to death, how about something a little more unconventional:
Like The USS Ohio!
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/ssgn-726.htm
Or an invisible Tank!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,306678,00.html
Zac, submarines aren’t really practical in suburbia.
@Mamba 1-0: Thank you, Mamba.
I like to read about cool new weapons and was hoping that a few others would contribute to the info sharing.
*Submarines are not practical in suburbia; however any criminal who trys to steal your television will undoubtedly wet himself upon seeing a trident headed in his direction.
@Curt:
http://www.federalsoup.com/
@ Zac, This will get the attention and respect of Suburban looters.
Not too sophisticated but easily understood.
Forgive me Zac, I was lost there far a minute. This one is considerably less expensive than the Trident, but still has silent running mode and can be manned single handed if you are handy.
http://www.wagnerstevens.com/
Curt: If you want my Log-In information for that site, so you can access posting, just say the word. I’ll post it all right here. I could care less. (Same screen name).
I trust that people are adults and won’t abuse it. If they do, whatever.
Learning trigger squeeze is an important part of marksmanship.
http://www.break.com/index/dumb-blonde-loses-control-of-ak-47.html
Driving skills are harder to learn for some, but don’t be disheartened.
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/9/Blonde-In-Driving-School-360821
The replacment for the Pave Low transport heli: The Osprey
http://www.boeing.com/rotorcraft/military/v22/index.htm
About 600 governments have signed on to so-called ”Sustainability” agendas.But, now, one government has quit that program. Carroll County, Maryland Commissioners abolished the County’s Office of Sustainability. They then also voted
unanimously to drop out of the UN’s International Council for Local
Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI). YEAH!One for our side!Local Sustainability offices, ICLEI’s Local Governments for Sustainability, are tiny, visible tips of the monstrous Agenda 21
sustainable development iceberg.This puts them under UN authority!One of these Commisioners, Richard Rothschild, wrote this in the local paper:Sustainability invokes government power to enforce activists’ views of
environmentalism. They want to replace farmers’, ranchers’ and other
landowners’ concept of stewardship with government-centric control. It
merges environmentalism and socialism to expand government into every
aspect of our lives, including land use, food production, housing,
transportation, manufacturing, energy rationing and even health care. (OOPS! on the type!)The ICLEI is:
@ Zac, the V-22 is in Service now in the Stans and Iraq.
Zac~ Only the Marine Corps uses the Osprey; and the Pave Low is not a transport helicopter.
@Skookum:
Yer gonna need one heckuva swimmin’ pool fer that baby!
(PS; mounting a quad .50 and a twin Bofors would really mess up the lines, too.)
Special forces swoop on Libya to pull Britons to safety
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8349896/Special-forces-swoop-on-Libya-to-pull-Britons-to-safety.html
The rescues took place south of Benghazi, which has fallen to the rebels, and involved members of the SAS and SBS and support troops.
The Hercules aircraft, believed to be from RAF 47 Squadron (Special Forces Flight), flew from a base on Malta where they had assembled on Friday as concern grew about the safety of the British workers.
SAS and SBS units are on standby to evacuate more Britons.
A final evacuation by the frigate HMS Cumberland is expected early this morning when it docks at Benghazi for any remaining Britons.
Liam Fox, the Defence Secretary, revealed the mission after the two planes landed in Malta shortly after 6pm last night.
“I can confirm that two RAF C130 Hercules aircraft have evacuated around 150 civilians from desert locations south of Benghazi,” he said. “HMS York has arrived in Valletta to take on board stores so it can assist the evacuation effort if required.
“And a number of other military assets remain available to support the FCO [Foreign and Commonwealth Office] led efforts to return civilians from Libya.”
The majority of the 150 civilians rescued were British but other nationalities were also plucked to safety.
During the mission, two RAF Hercules, which can carry up to four heavily armed SAS Land Rovers, landed on improvised desert airstrips.
There were reports that Special Forces personnel were landed in Libya by HMS Cumberland when it docked in Benghazi on Thursday and fanned south into the country’s desert. They picked Britons, almost all of whom had barricaded themselves in compounds around the Libyan desert as law and order collapsed.
Many had said they were living in fear of their lives and had been faced with armed looters, while some had been robbed at gunpoint.
The wives of some of the stranded men had complained about a lack of action by the Foreign Office – although they could not be warned of plans for the rescue in order to keep it secret.
@Mamba 1-0: Phase Out on that. *UNCLASSIFIED*
MH-53J Pavelow III / MH-53M Pavelow IV
Link below is *Open Source*
http://airforce.americanspecialops.com/aircraft/mh-53-pavelow/
There are No “De Militarized” versions. So… No, You can’t have one.
OT, Well, I’ll be. That is not in the Liberal play book and it’s just not nice. How embarrassing for the Muslim butt kissers, maybe Obama can apologize for the Queen going rogue.
Well done Britts, now can you kill the Homicidal Maniac of Lockerbie? That will really humiliate our rocker in the WH.
@ Skookum, We, the US does NOT do Direct Action Missions anymore. Other Nations can but it is generally frowned upon in World Opinion today. Indirect Action, such as sanctions are preferred by the “lace panty” politically correct bunch in Langley, VA. Other Nations appear to have no problems with DA as long as there is deniability and no paper trail.
The US and UN position is seizing/freezing assets and the “Crimes Against Humanity” route that can take months or years. Any time the UN gets involved the US Tax Payer gets the majority of the Bill so considering the cost of ammunition, DA would be cheaper. As the UN is notorious for sparing no expense, staying in the best Hotels and corruption, Yes. two well placed 7.62 x 51 mm rounds are relatively cheap.
Curt, I like the like/dislike button. I’m not much on censorship, but if a comment gets enough dislikes that it is hidden, you can still click on it to see what was written. In my mind that doesn’t count as censorship so I’m good with that part too. I think the whole site is looking very nice.
Anticrocks….I’m with OT and Mata. I have a Ruger ,45 ACP loaded with Gold Dot hollow points. I call it “one and done,” because there will be no need for a second shot. Back in the day I could do the double-tap, but now I just leave it to the pros. As for the Ruger instead of the Colt or something else. I just like the balance and feel of the Ruger. It’s different for everyone.
Transport Helicopter:
Definition
(noun)
-a helicopter designed to transport troops or equipment.
*Technically (I think) the Pave Low is a transport heli because its main objective is trooper transportation, if I’m still wrong what classification would the Pave Low be in?
*The Air Force 20th Special Operations Squadron will be using a variant Osprey called the CV22B.
http://www.skytamer.com/Bell-Boeing_CV-22B.html
@ Zac, The Pave Low is an old bird. Note the armament though. That old bird can take numerous small arms hits and stay on Mission. The V-22 is a new bird and does not take the same armament to the fight.
I remember when the Blackhawk was put in service and had safety issues. In time it gets worked out.
I have flown in the Osprey in the Stans and noted the absence of the Mini Guns and the .50s. The Pave Low was never sent out alone. It normally had Gunship escort. Apaches primarily.
http://www.guncopter.com/apache-longbow/
Fresh in from a 94 mile horseback ride, my 24th consecutive year, to kick off the Houston Stock show. Great to see you in here OT2 as you offer us with thinking ability great insight.
I see Skookum has had a run and what a good one it is. Thanks, sir for bringing me up to date during my absence for a tad of fun & frolic. Great posts from others on the FA team as well.
Zac – You’re hanging tough with this crowd. Do the same with the challenges that are facing you now and in the future cause our country needs citizens, immigrant and natural, of your caliber to pull us out of this black hole we’re headed into.
Got to agree someone is late to the IMPORTANT business at hand but then again the weekly WH party does have a higher priority.
Curt …. I’m FOR the Like/Dislike but I’m NOT FOR the Comment Hiding. Leave the comments on display for the blogosphere to read then determine just whom can support their argument with FACTS and those that can only spew the regurgitating talking points.
AH-64D Apache Longbow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1cwycSWq0
If You are going into a Fight, make sure that the 160th SOAR is going along.
http://www.campbell.army.mil/units/160thSOAR/Pages/160thSOAR.aspx
When it really matters, Send the Best.