It is ironical that the white horse signified in the Revelation and characterized in the 13th chapter is white, as most evangelicals would never have dreamed that a black man would be elevated to the position where he could actually evolve into the Antichrist. The fact is, evangelists have for years now preached on how we are in the end times prophesied in the Bible and that the world is heading to dire and more dire judgments as those set forth in Revelation. Now, now, now, this is Not today’s sermon, just a few (since they are not politically correct) personal ramblings from a guy who has been one of those evil fundamentalists all his life and knows a little about Bible prophesy.
It is certain that all sorts of stories are popping up on the web about the evil Omaba represented during his campaign and the cult personality that has evolved into the fawning hundreds of thousands in the streets on election night to celebrate his victory. The MSM are having some doubts now that they have elected Obama, but just wait until he is finished with them. Kudos to Mikes America who has been relentless in his denunciations as to why the questions being asked now by the MSM were not asked Before the election. It’s really absurd isn’t it, but the MSM are now beginning to admit that with all the vetting (ha, ha) they had done on Obama, they still don’t have a clue as to who he is! Incredible? Not! There was no vetting done. It was like the MSM, like the Obama cult, were the victims of mass hysteria and could no more put out a criticism of Obama than they could apply towards themselves.
One thing I believe that everyone can agree upon is that human beings cannot look towards the future and foretell what the world will be like a year from now, and so forth. We can look at tomorrow and based upon current events divine with some accuracy what will happen tomorrow, and maybe even next week, but beyond that it’s a toss-up. We can, however, look back and see what has happened, see the indicators of what has happened today and lament that we were just too blind to see the warnings and too lazy to take action because we didn’t really believe what we were seeing.
B. Hussein Obama is a very, very disturbing personality. In was never concerned by Bill Clinton, and his policies so much as I am with the potential Obama policies. Aside from the cult personality that ahs evolved and is continuing to evolve, we still do not know where Obama was born. He may turn out to be the only current or former president in history that does not have a historic marker or reported location that identifies the exact site of his birth. A lawsuit filed earlier this year in federal court demanding that Obama release his birth certificate was thrown out. During the court proceedings, Obama never produced his birth certificate, though he did produce a “certificate of live birth” issued by the state of Hawaii. Such a certificate lacks much of the basic details typically found on a birth certificate. A late Associated Press story revealed that Hawaii’s Health Department director and the state’s registrar of vital statistics did indeed look at Obama’s birth certificate and verified that he was born in that state, but this person gave no details as to where the presient-elect was actually born. The state cannot release a birth certificate without a person’s permission, but Obama has yet to allow his certificate to be released.
The birth certificate was just one document in a long laundry list of documents that Obama refused to release to the public, including college records, medical records and even his records as a state senator in Illinois. A lawsuit demanding Obama release a valid birth certificate was thrown out of court based specifically on the premise that the person who brought the lawsuit “had no standing””, but that was clearly a nonsense argument under our Constitution which says every citizen is “equal in the eyes of the law.” How can anyone oppose a request for the production of legal documents in such a case? One who is not a natural born citizen is not qualified to serve as our President under the Constitution. There were lawsuits in 9 states to require Obama to simply produce a valid birth certificate other than the one produced by the Obama organization which, when put side by side to an authentic Hawaiian certificate it appears to be fake.
Since the founding of our republic, 42 men have served as president of the United States. Of these, there are only two presidents with disputed birth sites: Andrew Jackson (born in 1767) and Zachary Taylor (born in 1784). The remaining 40 presidents all have a historic site, or at least a marker, on the spot of their birth.
Revelation, with its allegorical and symbolic language is a difficult book to follow if one cannot cross reference, however, this post needs to be short so the book maybe will come later. One thing that separates the allusion that Obama may be the antichrist is that the beast in Rev. 13 sustained a head would and was given no hope of recovery, subsequently recovered and “the world followed after him”.
Who or what is the power behind B. Hussein Obama? In Rev. 13, the Devil himself is behind the antichrist and gives him his power. Where did Obama’s money come from? Throughout the campaign it materialized out of nowhere. We are told that it was his “internet legions”, but Obama spent upwards of 460 million on this campaign, far, far more than John McCain who was saddled with the ‘public money’ stipulation by law.
So who is this man? Where was he born? Where was he educated? Who are his real backers? What exactly he done as far as experience to warrant being elected to the highest position in the land? What we actually do know of him does not paint a pretty picture, if this is the case, what more does all that which he refused to be made public paint for us onto the currently unfinished painting we have?
The Bible predicts that once Israel was established again (1948) that that generation would not pass until all the Revelation be fulfilled. Back in the 70’s and 80’s people assumed that the ‘generation’ was the generation of the Bible, (approximately 40 years), but I have always thought that it simply is the generation alive/born 1948 and after, and is approximately 70 years, which is why I believe that some in the generation alive right now will see all this come to pass.
It is also curious that back in the 80’s when computers were not fully established that this little number came up: Since 7 is the symbol of perfection in the Bible and is the symbol of God (It is said that 86% of the people in America profess a belief in God), and 6 is the symbol of man. If you take our alphabet and multiply the alphabetical numbers of COMPUTER, C=3×6, 0=15×6, M=13×6, and so forth we arrive at the number 666. Coincidence? Maybe….
Here is Wisdom: Let him who has understanding ‘calculate’ (emphasis mine) the number of the beast for it is the number of a man, and his number is six hundred, threescore, and six.
The world operates wholly upon one huge computer system where everything is tied together. What would make it more easier for a man to gain control of this system? Far fetched? Maybe. But then again, maybe we should take a closer look at B. Hussein Obama’s “internet army”.
“… we still do not know where Obama was born”.
Obama is God. God has no beginning, no ending. So Obama wasn’t born anywhere… he is GOD, remember? He is THE ONE, Oprah said it. Oprah knows and can’t be wrong. To say she is wrong, now that would be racism, right?.
Sorry, guys: A few typo’s on the above post , I have GOT to figure out how to edit my stuff off that little box in the post page…:-) Most the time there is a ‘edit’ command on responses, but not on the main posts. Most would say that since I believe in Biblical prophecy that I’m an uneducated idiot anyway, so might as well look like one…….
Steve
@Steve Rowland: i gave up church many years ago due to the hippocracy i had witnessed there, but i believe in god and am a christian. i am very fearful for our future, the nations and my own families. i am not sure i believe he is the antichrist, but i know he has no soul. i cannot believe that he was actually elected, it still freaks me out some. i will not think you are nuts, we could all be nuts. thank you for your insights.
luva:
Thank you. It was not intended to be a factual characterization, just drawing a parallel to the beast of Revelation.
It may be here noted that according to Revelation and once the Beast is in power, for the first three and one half years, everything appears rosy, the next three and one half years are hell, literally. That is a SEVEN year period, two terms into a presidency, and the last year is cut short by a world war, Armageddon. I’m certain I am mistaken, but something is not right at this time. Something Is Not Right.
Just hold to your faith. There IS hypocrisy, especially if 26% of professing evangelical Christians voted for The One as attested by the MSM. Hold to your faith, it is God and You, not God and your Group, don’t pay heed to hypocrites, they have their reward.
Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 was the end of time — just as the Aztec calendar had predicted. It happened less than a month before President-Elect Piyush “Bobby” Jindal’s inaugration and just four hours after the “Oval Office Slaughter”.
The Sunday headline of the New York Times that morning read:
“Redd Foxx Brilliant as Jeremiah Wright – Oscar Buzz”.
I used to be an elder in the church, and I have long struggled with my “faith” being an engineer by trade and thusly doubting that which I can not replicate. This led to me eventually leaving my church when I saw my family torn apart and there was no answer from god to help me to keep it whole. I haven’t been involved in anything supportive of my old faith for 14 years or so.
However:
Ever since Obama has appeared on the public scene I have had a gnawing dread, a sort of recognition. I’ve even found myself looking for the old book and questioning myself on whether I’ve seen this coming in the words there. I was looking for the book “The Late Great Planet Earth” but haven’t found a copy. It seems to me that there were some things there that seemed impossible, but today would be seen as probable. I’ve always thought that the Antichrist would be “someone” made by mankind. As in either a machine of artificial intelligence, or a clone or genetically manipulated person. So your postulation about the computer, or more aptly, the Internet acting as one giant computer, one giant symbiotic mind actually sent a chill through me.
Bill C;
Try Amazon.com. You should be able to find a used copy for reference fairly cheap. Being a world theology/prophecy “junkie” so-to-speak, I go there all the time looking for hard to find and out of print sources.
Steve;
I already know Skye wouldn’t go along with this, but thanks for the submission. I’m currently digging through various prophecies. I’m going back and forth between correlating the Nostradamus end time/still unfulfilled quatrains, the prophetic sections of the Bible, and other sources. Here’s a taste:
Daniel’s end time prophecies refer to Four Great Beasts or Anti-Christs (7:15-18). Past theologians interpreted it to refer to the kingdoms of Babylon, Medes, Persia, and Macedonia, before the rebuilding of the temple following the fall of Israel-Judah. But the descriptions of the beasts could also refer to recent empires:
– The Winged-Lion whose wings are plucked of 7:4 could reference Napoleon’s Empire (Nostradamus prophecies also support him as being one of the Anti-Christs).
– The Bear, 7:5 would be the USSR under Stalin (Nostradamus only refers to three Anti-Christs in his Centuries, He was a devout Catholic, though from a family of Jews converted during the Inquisition. He would be quite familiar with the Biblical prophecies. I’m guessing he didn’t really consider this Anti-Christ to be as much of a world threat.)
– The 4-Winged-Leopard, 7:6, I would attribute to Hitler and his Fourth Reich. (Again Nostradamus points to Hitler and even gives the anagram “Hister” – In his anagrams you are allowed to change or drop one letter and rearrange the others)
– The 10-Horned Beast of 7:7 concurs with the 10-horned beast of Revelation, where each of these horns indicate a king/kingdom/power/organization which are all part of the same beast. (Nostradamus refers to a person as a “noir chyren” which translates to “black king”)
It is the latter Anti-Christ of whom we are concerned:
7:8 – The new 11th little horn that grows out would be a new king/kingdom/power/organization. This 11th Horn had eyes of a man and a mouth speaking great things
7:23 – “As for the Fourth Beast there shall be a Fourth Kingdom on Earth, which shall be different from all other kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole Earth.” (I take that to refer to America, which is different from every other country in history and is the primary superpower controlling world affairs)
7:24a – The Ten Kings (To solve this, for sake of argument, let’s consider the entire Beast as being an elite Illuminati secret society type organization controlling the entire world. These 10 Kings could be; 1) United Nations, 2) CFR, 3) Trilateral Commission, 4) Federal Reserve, 5) Buildebergers, 6) NATO, 7) Warsaw Pact, 8) China, 9) OPEC, 10) America’s Legislative Branch, 11th New Horn – America’s Ever-changing Executive Branch.)
NOTE: In Revelation 13:1-10 the beast had 7 heads, One with a head wound (Which healed). This could refer to 7 Illuminati controlled Presidential Administrations who were confirmed or believed to be Masons when elected. The last 7 following FDR’s socialist agenda administrations were; 1) Truman, 2) JFK (LBJ would be the head-wound healed), 3) Reagan, 4) Bush Sr, 5) Clinton, 6) Bush Jr. 7) Obama. (Eisenhower, Nixon, and Carter were not Masons. Ford, who was a Mason, replaced Nixon and did not win the top post in the election himself.) Back to Daniel:
7.24b – And another shall shall arise after them (The 10 Horns); He shall be different from the former ones, And shall put down three kings (i.e. Look for three world leaders to be eliminated under the Anti-Christ’s administration)
7:24 – He shall speak words against the Most High (Claims of being the Messiah would qualify I think), And shall wear out the saints of the Most High (He will upset traditional Judeau-Christians), And shall thing to change the times and the law (Hello!); and they shall be given into his hand for a time, two times, and a half a time (3.5 years, will not complete his term).
7:26 – But the court shall sit in judgment, and his dominion shall be taken away, to be consumed and destroyed to the end (Impeachment of the Anti-Christ and his entire Administration).
7:27 – And the Kingdom and the Dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High (Judeau-Christian values will prevail and take control of the government back from the brink); their kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.
This would not necessarily conflict with the 7 years of Revelation. If Obama were this Anti-Christ, the full 7 years include his rise to power (i.e. from when he started to seek the presidency), which could go back and additional 3.5 years when he started his run for his Congressional Senate seat.
Anyway, That’s some food for thought. I’ll keep you updated as I keep digging.
Bill C:
It is sad that, through the ages, ‘religions’, in general, have been the source of death, destruction, mayhem, and the associated unhappiness, strife, and loneliness for its adherents that comes with conflict. Sometimes we get so caught up in the passion and anxiety of the moment that we don’t really listen although we believe we do. I humbly do not believe that that was G-d’s intent. Man created religions, G-d created his Son.
I believe you see my point that one Man, with a fanatical ‘army’ of supporters inside that “giant symbiotic mind”, as you so aptly put it, could easily gain control of a world system that today is, for all practical purposes, run on computers.
Look at the Federal Reserve as just one example. Capital moves through electronic means, from bank to bank, but computers are made to be Hacked and an individual with enough capital, enough followers, and enough determination, and enough cause for mayhem could recruit as many electronic hackers as he wishes to do as he pleases. Far fetched? You tell me. It is certain your personal information is not safe, look at Joe the Plumber, suppose, the fanatical supporters of a hugely charismatic man were told that they need to keep abreast of their ‘enemies’, and keep them ‘in check’, by utilizing whatever information they can gain about specific persons…….remember the White House FBI files under Clinton? If you believe they just materialized there, I got a bridge in Brooklyn on which I am selling historical shares for $1000 per square inch. No takers as of yet….
This is just a scenario, hopefully it will not come to pass anytime soon…
Thank you for your comments and I appreciate those. As I told luva, your faith is between God and yourself. In the end, that’s all we carry with us when they put us in the cold, hard ground.
By the way, I am an engineer (architectural). Trust me, the more education one has, it seems the more doubts, regarding faith, that that person has. It is a struggle, but a personal one that we will win if we only persevere.
Steve
Rocky B:
Whew! That is some food for thought. Conspiracy theories abound about the Illuminati, whether imagined or not, do we really know. We do know that throughout the earth, there are men of huge mean’s who have a lust for world power and will do anything to attain and keep that power and riches in their families or group, so anything is possible.
I don’t normally cross reference end-time prophecies as I do cross reference Biblical books, as the already hugely ambitious nature of what is written as cause for confusion in just one prophetic book, trying to cross reference All of them seems out of sight, no pun intended.
As I mentioned, we have a knack of looking Back on events and drawing parallels upon the prognostications of individual ‘seers’ and attempting to tie what they divined onto a past event, but try as we might we fail when attempting to tie those prophesies to the future. Prophecy, for the most part is so ambigious as to the time frame of what is predicted that many different world ages already past can be referenced in such a way as to indicate, for instance, that parts the Revelation came to pass in the time shortly after Christ was crucified.
Just watching the events unfolding now, however, causes a gross uneasiness in my mind, as Bill C noted of himself. Something is not right.
Well, on the Other hand, the Mayan calendar ends at December, 2012. That is enough time for ONE presidential term…..what will the months ahead portend?
Keep in mind that FA opens themselves up to ridicule when this type discussion is posted but gets out of hand. Let’s respect their position and keep our further posts, if any, within reason as this is a conservative Political blog, thanks.
The number one problem with this is Amero-centrism. You have to approach the prophecies of the Bible from a whole-world view. While I believe that Obama will be a massive disaster for our country, I am fairly certain that he is not the anti-Christ; although that phrase can also be interpreted as false messiah, which we know he is. That said, one of the non-biblical “prophecies” that I have found fascinating is the Sunni Islamist Mahdi prophecies. Their traditions follow very closely with the one that we would recognize as the Anti-Christ. So here is the thing: an 18th century imam wrote that a black man would arise in the west, to pave the way (think John the Baptist) for the Mahdi, and that he would carry the name of the last Caliph, Hussein. Do I think Obama represents a huge step in the direction of the arrival of the anti- christ? absolutely! Still, he is not the one himself, to my mind he just doesn’t fit the bill.
nyexpat:
Thank you for your comments, can you give me a link to that Sunni prophecy?
See if it posts this time-
Did you know the letters in Oreo Cookie * 6 equals 666? Oreo’s are 1/2 white/ 1/2 black. Get it??? Oreo chocolate cookies = the Devil’s Food. Get it??
Sad thing is, you probably believe it.
Claire:
They only thing to be divined by your comment is that you are obviously quite full of OREO’s….too much sugar is bad for the human body…..give it a rest, old girl.
No, they really add up to 666. (15+18+5+15+3+15+15+11+9+5)*6=666.
Anyway, why is this not EXACTLY as prophetic as “computer” = 666? See, with Excel anybody can be a prophet.
If words x numbers have prophetic meaning, then you can look and find it literally anywhere. It’s kind of like a show psychic warm or cold reading an audience. When primed sufficiently, you can be manipulated to believe anything.
There are hundreds of words and phrases that could satisfy any preconceived notion. Like why would the 7 heads of the beast only apply AFTER FDR’s administration? Why the arbitrary cut off there?
Do you see what I’m getting at? When I read comments like “well that certainly food for thought” and the person hasn’t given any thought as to how un-coincidental these “coincidences” are, I have to roll my eyes.
Here’s some more 666 numbers:
KISSINGER
SSNUMBER
NEW YORK
NUCLEAR HELL
and my favorite:
SANTA CLAUS
Coincidence? Maybe not………
Claire: Yes you are correct and I was already aware of that, however oreo cookies really don’t strike me as being the antichrist..:-) though I have eaten enough at times to subscribe to that fact.
The point was to point out exactly what was pointed out
In that the way that a Man and a Computer with enogh resources could rule the worls. There is no compelling reason to consider ores’s, for example, as bearing upon the fact, and even Kissinger either as although people called him the anti-christ, there was little basis to do so.
The point was a Man and a Computer even without the 666 is relevant to the matter. The fact that computer adds to 666, which equates to a man making himself G-d,is just a coincidence and is duly noted.
Thanks.
How about this scenario?
The head wound refers to his loss of power , not a physical wound. What if the Supreme Court rules he is not a citizen. He is stripped of power. It takes a year but congress amends the constitution to allow a foreign born person to be president, it takes about a year to get the 2/3 state majority to ratify. Obama returns triumphant, thus we have 7 years left?
Then,
Israel pre-emptively nukes Iran. There is world wide condemnation,. The UN passes resolutions that Israel be disarmed by force, NATO invades them from the North. We abandon Israel, what better excuse. We (U.S.) invade from Iraq.. Thus, the Armageddon scenario?
I really think it is presumptious to try to figure out Revelation. But , God does say “he who has ears , let him hear” etc… so I think we are to be suspicious of those who seem to become God like. And in my lifetime of 49 years nothing comes closer to that than Obama…
Checkers:
I Don’t agree with that that the head wound signifies a “loss of power,” it is written that “…one of the heads was wounded unto death and his deadly wound was healed….” The logical explanation is exactly what it says, it would appear. He was wounded to near death and miraculously recovers .
Thanks.
Steve,
I don’t disagree with your interpretation. I just wonder how literal some of the passages are meant to be taken?
How about same scenario but assassination attempt causes almost mortal wound and then there is a miraculous recovery?
Good post by the way..
Checkers:
Thats Exactly the scenario I envision.
Have to look at the passage itself, if its obviously allegorical, its allegorical, if it refers to something as simple as a wound, etc, assume it is literal unless the context says otherwise.
Tkx
on this Eve,the End of Times,we stand
Great Winds coming on terrible Thunder
as ‘many-will-come-claiming-to-be-Me’
stands decked in victory,
already decorated –
Come quickly to save us, Dear Lord,
before the darkness falls
I cannot tell if I should run or wait
an even gait, now walking & I turn onto
The Highway of God.
Not sure if it really means anything, but in the Illinois State Lottery of Wednesday, Nov 5th, the numbers drawn in the Pick 3 Lottery were 666. That’s true, you can look it up!
Steve;
I get your point, yet there have been other comments and posts on FA referring to 2012 & Anti-Christ potential, and there do seem to be several different prophecies that may be converging in the near future. As NYExPat points out. This seemed like a good thread for going over some potentials. Rather than having it spread out through several others. Thinking ahead to possible futures is more of a Conservative ideology, than the instant gratification sought by the “Me” generation types.
I haven’t seen anything yet that says the head wound would occur while the Anti-Christ is in power. Only the mention of it in the Beast from the Seas passages. It was only one of seven heads, that’s why I attributed it to JFK as he was on a navy PT boat and the shot in the head. His administration did recover and continue under LBJ. Reagan was shot in a lung by Hinkley, not in the head, so it didn’t fit him.
Checkers;
Who knows if that case will go anywhere. I’m sure some Dem in the Hawaii records office might happily type their new favorite son up a “long-form” birth-certificate. They have an entire month to try to find an old blank form and the old stamps. Of course, since Berg started his case months ago I’m sure they’ve already had plenty of time already.
Sta R (#21);
Hmm… that would likely lead to quite a few old Black Sabbath groupies splitting the money. What kind of world danger could that present?… Ozzy Osbourne on the come-back trail attempts to bite the head off of the beast perhaps? Might be able to work that into the head wound.
NYExPat
It isn’t America-centric, but a world view. That’s why I gave serious thought to the old Illuminati conspiracy theory angle. As that theory goes; Each of the four Anti-Christ Beasts connects to a different great Illuminati country experiment. Along those lines under the conspiracy theory as the stories go:
http://worldmessenger.blogspot.com/2008/04/illuminati-world-government-fronts.html
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14493a.htm
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/illumin.htm
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasons.htm
Each of these countries were developed to ascertain which might work best for the ultimate goal of a One World Government. The Church of Jesu, which became the HQ The Knights of Malta (AKA Knights of Saint John, who eliminated the Knights Templar in the 1300’s), was founded in 1534 by Ignatius Loyola (also founder of the Illuminati). George Washington, was alleged to have been replaced by Adam Weishaupt a Bavarian Illuminoid who fled Europe. Most of our founding fathers have been reported to have been Freemasons.
Previous to our Revolutionary War, Masonry and other secret societies existed in France and Germany and were at one time banned. Napoleon’s empire in the Republic of France did not work out very well, as he gained in power he decided not to remain a puppet, so of course he had to be disposed, at the Battle of Waterloo one of his Generals failed to provide reinforcements.
Russia was a similar purely socialist/communist experiment that eventually rivaled America in power through the Cold War, yet it didn’t work because it was too heavily-oppressive and stagnate.
Hitler’s Germany was a sociofascist Republic. The Illuminoids had higher hopes of success there and gave the Nazi’s the added task of collecting and accumulating religious artifacts from the Holy Lands. It is a known fact, Hitler used religious prophecies and those of Nostradamus and had people studying them in an effort to come up with strategies that would have him fulfilling them and rising to eventually becoming the head of the future One World Government. His hunger for power and ego was also his undoing.
America is the only one of these four kingdoms to survive intact. Over the centuries there were sympathetic alliances with the other three countries. The French & Americans versus England in the colonies and Revolutionary War. Germany Sympathizers prior to WWII. Communist Sympathizers which led to the McCarty era, etc. That is what shifts the focus to the USA. The League Of Nations and later the United Nations, might be considered an Illuminoid attempt to reunite that torn asunder by the fall of the Tower of Babel.
It can’t just be a coincidence that the U.N. building is on Manhattan Island in New York. Where we also find our Stock Exchange which has been a prime focus of world attention of late. Also where the WTC towers once stood. Nor that Washington DC is only 200 miles away. Nostradamus spoke several times of the New City in his prophecies and it’s location; 45 degrees.
I love America. Like many, I am deeply concerned and wonder what our World’s elitists, those “Illuminati” (if they exist), might be up to behind our backs, of which we are totally unaware. We know with the L.O.S.T., Global Poverty, Kyoto, and other treaties are in the works which we the people do not condone. Nor are they good for America. Those outside looking in, may well view America, if it is a place of gathering for a world shadow government, as the “Whore of Babylon” sitting astride many waters (Revelation 17:15). I hope it may still be in our power to change things, but feel it is certainly fair to point out, it is far better to be forewarned and prepared rather than choosing to remain blind. Lady Liberty was a gift to us from France that stands near to that New City. I pray that Revelation 18:23 is not referring to her torch when it says. “And the light of a lamp shall shine in thee no more.”
Is there an Illuminoid plot? Could these concepts be links to understanding more about the book of Revelation? I don’t know. None of us do. Only God does. I don’t raise these points to instill fear, but for others to consider. There is no point in being afraid. Should something like this be God’s will, we can do nothing to change it. It’s “above our pay grade.”
Oh I forgot to mention Babylon was, according to legend, where the world’s languages were confounded. America is the “Big Mixing Pot” where they are all coming back together again.
If I’m out of line, and there’s no place for this subject at FA. I’m sure Curt or one of the other moderators will point it out. But, you opened the door, I just walked in. As for any ridicule someone wants to dish out against me. I’m a big boy and can handle myself. These are my posts and opinions, which are certainly not necessarily that of FA.
Rocky B…
Don’t take it wrong, no offense meant at all, just reminding us both. I am sure you are correct, and while I opened the door, I did not invite any doomsday sects to enter. Your comments are appreciated and are interesting.
Stan: just where can 666 in a lottery have to do with end times? About as much as Oreo Cookies will crown the next anti-christ.
Steve;
No offense taken, or intended. I was just a little confused after the Revelation/Anti-Christ subject was brought up to be told what I perceived as amounting to, “Hold on, we don’t want to go there.” My only intention was to point out some things I found and possible connections which seem very intriguing. I’m not affiliated with any fundamentalist or evangelical church or involved in any organized or disorganized cult or sect. Nor would I care to form one.
I’m only an independent student theology/metaphysics/mythology/prophecy self-researcher. If I had to categorize myself in regards to a specific school of thought, I suppose I would fall under the basic definition of Gnosticism; the pursuit of religious knowledge and wisdom to become spiritually closer to that supreme entity which is God. I do not close my mind off from all other religious texts. I find most to have very similar basic tenets and something to offer and it helps one to gain insight and comprehend the motives and passions of the followers.
And no, I take no offense from the “doomsday sect” comment either.
BTW, since NYExPat has not responded back, here are some links to the Islamic Mahdi prophecies he mentioned. You’ll find that Mahdib of the science fiction “Dune” series of books by Frank Herbert were loosely based on the Imam Madhi:
http://bdsteel.tripod.com/More/Prophecy.htm
http://bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/index.htm
RockyB: Many thanks and I am going to CERTAINLY look at that maud dib prophesy more in-depth.
That ‘doomsday sect’ referred to those of Jones Jones ilk, and those who think Oreo Cookies are the next anti-christ….so didnt refer to you at all. You made some great input, will keep me busy for a while. Right not, I am at Hilton Head for the week and with atrocious blackberry reception, and have to go to a wi-fi place to run my laptop, so too much irritation. In fact, I have to leave the room and go outside to get any reception at all. Talk to you later. Tkx, Srr
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