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Joe Biden, who is still not done rounding up non-violent Jan 6 Trump supporters and imprisoning them, has established another reason to imprison Trump supporters. Yesterday he put a new marker down- the FBI will be going after those who question the Trump verdict, because that’s ‘dangerous.”

“Donald Trump was given every opportunity to defend himself” in the New York “hush money” trial, Pres. Biden says.

It was rigged. Completely rigged. Biden’s denialism is proof that it was rigged and he was the one who drove it. This is from a CNN legal analyst (via Kanekoa the Great on X)

CNN Senior Legal Analyst Describes How The Trump Conviction Was A Political Hit Job 1. “The judge donated money… in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations—to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation.” 2. Alvin Bragg boasted on the campaign trail in an overwhelmingly Democrat county, “It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.” 3. “Most importantly, the DA’s charges against Trump push the outer boundaries of the law and due process.” 4. “The charges against Trump are obscure, and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever.” 5. The DA inflated misdemeanors past the statute of limitations and “electroshocked them back to life” by alleging the falsification of business records was committed ‘with intent to commit another crime.’ 6. “Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify what those unlawful means actually were — and the judge declined to force them to pony up — until right before closing arguments. So much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice to the defendant of the accusations against him in advance of trial.” 7. “In these key respects, the charges against Trump aren’t just unusual. They’re bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else.” 8. “The Manhattan DA’s employees reportedly have called this the “Zombie Case” because of various legal infirmities, including its bizarre charging mechanism. But it’s better characterized as the Frankenstein Case, cobbled together with ill-fitting parts into an ugly, awkward, but more-or-less functioning contraption that just might ultimately turn on its creator.”

One wonders whether it will be “dangerous” to question a guilty verdict in the Hunter Biden trial.

As I said previously, Biden has awakened a sleeping giant.

Former President Donald Trump’s campaign announced on Friday that it had raised nearly $53 million in the 24 hours after Trump’s conviction by a New York jury. Jurors in Trump’s business records trial found the former president guilty on all 34 counts related to payments made to adult entertainment star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 presidential election.

“In the 24 hours since Crooked Joe Biden and his New York henchmen got their sham trial verdict, the Trump Campaign has raised $52.8 million through the online digital fundraising platform,” the Trump campaign wrote. “THAT’S MORE THAN $2 MILLION PER HOUR!”

The Trump campaign added that over “one third” of these donations were from new donors.

Finally, and long overdue, GOP Senators have decided that enough is enough with Biden’s lawfare attacks on Trump and are not going to cooperate with democrats.

In no small coincidence, Judge Juan Merchan has scheduled sentencing for July 11, a few days before the RNC Convention. Let’s play out the possibilities.  One former Manhattan ADA thinks prison is likely for Trump.

Former Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Stuart Meissner said he thinks prison time is more likely than not.

“I think, knowing most judges in New York, they’re going to want to show that no one is above the law, and therefore he would likely sentence him to a term of incarceration,” he said. “I don’t think much, but I think it would be included just to show that point.”

The maximum sentence for falsifying records is four years. That would be a total of 144 years.  Not likely to be seen, but zealots on X will be calling for it.

Others think prison is unlikely.

Pattis added that he finds it unimaginable that Merchan would send a major party’s presidential nominee to prison.

“It would be horrible for the country for Merchan to put this man in prison under these circumstances,” he said. “And I think he knows it.”

Merchan has acted in a vindictive manner toward Trump since day one. He has gagged Trump while allowing freedom to anyone who wanted to lambaste Trump, denied key witnesses and actively guided the jury to a conviction. But there are logistical problems with jailing Trump, specifically, the Secret Service. All former Presidents have lifetime Secret Service protection. If Trump is jailed, his SS detail is also effectively jailed. Biden could get around that by stripping Trump of his protection, but that would cause an all-out war- literally. As it is, Biden currently has denied RFK Jr Secret Service protection possibly in hopes of seeing him assassinated.

Given his bias and Trump animus, I think (and kind of hope) it likely that Merchan will sentence Trump to house arrest complete with an ankle bracelet and order him immediately detained in order to prevent Trump from appearing at the RNC convention and from campaigning, appeals notwithstanding. Merchan could also pile on community service and make Trump collect trash or something like it just to add to the humiliation.

Ironically, Trump could find himself in a mirror image of Biden’s 2020 campaign from the basement – and win despite the greatest efforts of the corrupt and two-tiered legal system. And once he wins, Trump should take some serious action immediately. The gross abuse of lawfare will not stop until it inflicts some real pain on its worst abusers.

On his first day, Trump should fire all sitting US Attorneys in blue states and toss Merrick Garland. You might remember that Bill Clinton fired all sitting US Attorneys. Trump should appoint his own Attorney General who should immediately dispatch Christopher Wray and CIA Director William Burns and make his own less hostile appointments.

Then Trump ought to resurrect the investigation of Biden’s violation of the Espionage Act.

Biden escaped culpability because he presented himself as a senile old man. Since then, he has done his utmost to dispel that notion. Accordingly, that makes him free to face the consequences. Trump could then strip Biden of his privilege (just as Biden did to Trump) and make him hand over any and all materials even close to pertinent to the investigation.

Then Trump could demand all communications regarding Biden’s efforts at censorship during the 2022 elections and between Blinken and those 51 “intelligence experts.” Following that, Trump should seek to obtain all communications between Biden and his staff and the FBI, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg and Fani Willis.

Trump will have an abundant amount of evidence to have his AG indict Biden and probably several others. I am sure several of his USAs will be able to find more to charge Biden accomplices and henchmen. The scourge of lawfare will never end until democrats are made to feel its wrath. DeNiro’s insane rantings notwithstanding, Trump will not be running again. It is the perfect opportunity to this.

Trump should wear his conviction as a badge of honor- a symbol of how badly the justice system in this country has deteriorated. Was the railroading of Trump run by Biden? You bet your ass it was.

 

 

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I think there is no way to predict what Merchan will sentence. It depends on what the DNC needs, just like the trial itself. If Trump’s fundraising and popularity takes a massive dive, he may give probation or wave off punishment. Mission accomplished. But if Trump’s popularity and fundraising soars, as it has been, Merchan is more likely to finish the job and put Trump away or severely hobble him from campaigning. No one can use reason, common sense and judicial precedent here because none of that factors in. It never has. The most accurate predictions have taken only political expediency into account.

Any one of these lizards Trump can get his hands on he should absolutely fire. If there is a shred of evidence of corruption, he should prosecute them to the fullest. Absolutely, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden should be prosecuted for his theft and abuse of classified documents; he has NO form of immunity or protection from prosecution there, except possibly for his low-end mental state. But he should also be investigated for any involvement, no matter how minor, any any of the prosecutions brought against Trump. The left impeached Trump for merely asking the logical and well-founded question of Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden involvement in Ukrainian corruption; what would be the penalty for trying to interfere in an election by having the opposition candidate, who was trouncing him in poll after poll, investigated, prosecuted and thrown in jail? Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden, along with anyone else involved. I smell RICO. Make sure to have every case tried in venues that are heavily Republican.

No one anywhere thinks this trial was fair and legitimate. Only, some love the outcome and some others love the Constitution. But, at least we got something out of it. All of a sudden, the Supreme Court becomes legitimate, respected and unquestionably correct. It has now been proclaimed from On High that questioning any court is very, very dangerous.

The entire trial was a bogus effort to find an innocent defendant guilty. The number of reversible errors committed by merchan would make your head spin.

As pointed out by Clark, there are numerous Indio who will be found guilty of a criminal conspiracy to deny Trump his 5th, 6th and 14th Amendment right. There will be retribution for those who engaged in this unlawful use of the justice system.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1985

I hope greg is as exuberant when democrats are tossed into the hoosegow for the crimes they have committed in a conspiracy against President Trump.

merchan cannot be trusted. He will do whatever his puppet masters tell him to do, and likely it will be imprisonment.

At some point it will be necessary for a judicial intervention to put a halt to this runaway unethical corrupt judge. History will not be kind to merchan or the other collaborators in this purposeful election interference conspiracy.

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joe said, He’ll be given the opportunity, as he should, to appeal [the trial] decision. … It’s dangerous, it’s irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don’t like the verdict.

This is not the same as siccing the FBI on those who don’t like the verdict.
But perhaps this claim that joe sicced the FBI on people for thinking something “irresponsible” or “dangerous,” can be found elsewhere?

People are taking deadly drugs everyday, thousands die from it everyday, but that’s OK with joe.
Seems rather “dangerous,” and “irresponsible.”

joe says he can’t close the border, joe says he can’t stop all the drugs.
Seems rather “irresponsible,” and “dangerous,” too.

Trump didn’t close the border. He didn’t stop all the drugs, either.

Trump secured the border. It’s a documented fact. Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden unsecured the border. He did it intentionally and with the goal of letting in as many illegal immigrants as possible. That, too, is a documented fact.

It’s a documented fact”

Show us the document you are citing.

Chart shows beyond any doubt that the disaster at the border is all idiot Biden’s fault.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9576403/This-chart-reveals-border-apprehensions-soared-Biden-took-office.html
 

“Border detentions doubling” is pretty much the diametric opposite of “open border,” scooter.

Uh… not it isn’t. Notice it doesn’t say “removal” or “prevention from entering”. They were “detained” as in temporarily inconvenienced in their illegal entry. After brief detention, they were released into the nation, often given free transportation further inland.

The skyrocketing detentions only shows how well Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden’s invitations to invade our country worked.

Was the border more secure under Trump or under Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden?

You’re arguing with someone who Chooses to believe what the obvious proves to be a lie.

Many people crossed the border illegally during the Trump administration.

Its Flood on the Border since Biden you Dip-Wad

A fraction of what Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden has INVITED and allowed across. Got that… he INVITED illegal immigrants, TOLD them to come and get the benefits. Trump told them what he was going to do during his 2016 campaign and illegal immigration slowed to a trickle when he won. It only increased when Democrats began their lawfare to try and defeat his efforts. But he beat THEM, too. Trump secured the border. Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden intentionally UNsecured the border. Again, pay special attention to that; he did it INTENTIONALLY.

Trump secured the border.

…If you ignore the millions of people who crossed illegally during his administration, then sure, I guess…

But you ignore the fact that Trump took action to reduce illegal immigration, had cooperation with other governments to help reduce illegal immigration (by not aiding and abetting it), was building the wall and was not openly inviting illegal immigrants to come here. You ignore the significant reduction in illegal immigration and the ongoing progress in reducing it further.

Was the border more secure under Trump or under Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden?

…illegal border crossings, as measured by apprehensions at the southwest border, were 14.7% higher in Trump’s final year in office compared with the last full year of Obama’s term.

Given that, had Obama “fixed” the border? Not according to Donald Trump in 2016. Then, he repeatedly called the border “broken” and made fixing it his primary campaign promise.

The difference is, Trump’s apprehensions were turned away instead of given a welcoming party. Obama and Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden employed “catch and release”.

Was the border more secure under Trump or under Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden?

If you ignore the millions of people who crossed illegally during his administration, 

Perhaps you would like to tell us how many “millions” crossed illegally under Trump? Then, you can tell us how many “millions” have crossed under the most corrupt president this nation has ever had, Joe Biden?

No.
You’re “right.” Trump never COMPLETELY closed the border.comment image

The period between the middle and right-hand arrows is the COVID pandemic. You want to give Trump responsibility for that? Fine by me.

Do you know how to read a graph? Do you know what a “trend” is? And, had Trump not implemented Title 42, the illegal immigrants that did come in would be COVID carriers, wouldn’t they? Don’t forget, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden REVOKED Title 42, so even when something is obviously working, he wrecks it.

Was the border more secure under Trump or under Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden?

Is there a point to your nonsense? Or is this all that’s left once you’re finished pulling it?

Bite me.

Let me Peck your Nose, Bub

Wow, you really summed it up there, didn’t you? Such an articulate debate!

Still insist od being a total idiot like Greg

He was on the way to doing both 

And total security was just two weeks away, right? Just as it always was for anything Trump wanted to do. Two weeks!

But that’s not the point that is repeatedly being made here—the MAGA dingdongs who post here never say that Trump was on the way to doing it; they say that he did it. That’s just a plain old lie.

If your point depends on a lie—or, if I’m feeling charitable, an unrealistic extrapolation of current trends—you really have no point.

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Give an honest answer, if there is any possible way you can muster one.

Was the border more secure under Trump or under Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden?

I take it you aren’t going to be providing those quotes of those who predicted Trump would be acquitted.

I’ve already stipulated to you in another thread that there are now more illegal border crossings now than under Trump, but the millions that took place under Trump—and the millions of dollars of illegal drugs that entered the country on his watch—mean that the border wasn’t “secure.” I doubt seriously that anything could be done to actually secure the border; it’s just too long.

Was the border more secure under Trump or under Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden?

That’s kind of a “yes or no” question. If you think “secure” means zero illegal immigrants cross, you are obviously being purposely stupid. However, it has been made abundantly clear that Obama had a relatively open border, Trump secured the border and then Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden intentionally removed every security measure Trump had put in place in addition to issuing an open and world-wide invitation to illegal immigrants to come here. Hell, he is even FLYING them here directly from their home countries so they aren’t counted as having crossed the border.

Now… those comments made here that Trump was going to be acquitted. They never existed, did they?

Last edited 13 days ago by Just Plain Bill

Which, of course, can be reversed again after the election. I wish, though I doubt it would happen, one of the moderators would ask Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden why, after three years of denying there was any emergency at the border, suddenly new legislature and executive orders are required to deal with it?

06/01/24 – Trump verdict makes significant number of Republicans less likely to support him: poll

A new poll conducted immediately following former President Trump’s criminal conviction in New York found a significant number of Republicans say they are less likely to vote for him in November.

One in 10 registered GOP voters said Trump’s felony conviction for falsifying business records would make them less likely to support him for president, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that closed on Friday. The two-day poll was conducted hours after a jury in Manhattan on Thursday found Trump guilty on all counts brought against him by District Attorney Alvin Bragg.

The poll also found that a majority of Republican voters, 56%, said the outcome of the case would have no effect on their vote and 35% said they were even more likely to support Trump, who maintains his innocence. 

Even so, the potential loss of a tenth of Republican voters could decimate the presumptive GOP nominee’s chances to win back key battleground states President Biden claimed in his 2020 victory over Trump. That year, just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College, according to NPR… 

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Which was, of course, the very reason for the trial. Not “justice” but election tampering, lawfare. However, Trump has a tendency to be able to build support. You’ll still need 10 times the election fraud you used in 2020.

Plot twist: WA has a law against felons running for office

June 1, 2024 at 6:00 am 

If local Republicans knew what was good for them, they would now move to drop Donald Trump from Washington’s fall ballot.

I know, they won’t. They’re in too deep. Trump won 76% of our state’s GOP presidential primary vote. It’s become like a cult, as the party seems eager to debase itself by shedding all its longstanding talk about the rule of law and personal responsibility — as well as any chances of winning here in Washington — to sink ever deeper into the muck of Trump.

So here’s another reason to dump Trump from the Washington ballot. If Republicans don’t do it, somebody else probably will.

It turns out Washington has a law on the books against convicted felons running for office.

It was first established back when Washington was a territory, in 1865, that anyone convicted of “infamous crimes” could be blocked from holding elected office. That was modified in 1959, and then again more recently, to the scheme we have today.

Any registered voter can “challenge the right of a candidate to appear on the general election ballot” for any of five causes, state law says. One of those causes is flashing in bold neon lights today: “Because the person whose right is being contested was, previous to the election, convicted of a felony by a court of competent jurisdiction, the conviction not having been reversed nor the person’s civil rights restored after the conviction.”

How about 34 felonies?

“I have clients lined up who are going to be all over pursuing a ballot challenge in this case,” says David Vogel, a Seattle attorney and former deputy prosecutor for King County who was briefly involved in an earlier ballot challenge against Trump before the presidential primary…

As Colorado proved, a state cannot determine who is on a federal ballot. But, you desperate crybabies keep proving to us all how utterly pathetic you are.

The question…

Last edited 12 days ago by Greg

Good question. Does character matter enough to you to not support a proven pedophile? Do YOU have enough character to support the victim of the Democrat’s fascist lawfare instead of Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden, the corrupt, treasonous, incompetent pedophile whose regime is directing the lawfare?

Based on what I’ve seen, I doubt it.

Biden IS NOT “a proven pedophile”, you lying bastard.

Last edited 12 days ago by Greg

What do you call it when Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden’s own daughter said he forced her to shower with him as a young girl? Let’s see, if we had a trial and Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden had a judge and jury like Trump had in the lunatic E. Jean Carroll’s trial, even if Ashley couldn’t remember what year it happened or where it happened, he would be convicted of sexual abuse of a child. Maybe you can think of a reason why a daughter would lie about such a thing about her own father?

Yeah… he’s a PROVEN PEDOPHILE. Learn to live with it.

You’re going to have to learn to live with the fact that your cult leader has totally destroyed the GOP as the standard bearer of traditional conservatism and time-honored American values.

You’ve chosen a manipulative reprobate as the GOP’s representative and beaten down all resistance from wiser republicans who recognize him for what he is.

Last edited 12 days ago by Greg

All lies from raging maddow.

Trump Calls on SCOTUS to Decide His Fate . . . and the Fate of the Nation

I can live with the fact that Trump has turned the GOP into the party of the people. Can you live with the fact that the Democrat party is now totally far left, fascist and totalitarian?

Note how you make all your stupid, hollow accusations without answering any of my questions. That’s what gutless is.

Last edited 12 days ago by Just Plain Bill

It’s no longer the party of the majority. The majority is weary of their bullshit. That’s why Trump is preparing you to squawk about another stolen election.

These folks don’t care about the GOP. It’s not MAGA enough. As far as they’re concerned, the Republican Party is nearly all Deep State™ operatives and disguised Democrats.

These folks don’t care about the GOP. It’s not MAGA enough. As far as they’re concerned, the Republican Party is nearly all Deep State™ operatives and disguised Democrats.

Tell me, groomer, what do you base that opinion on? Give us your educated prospective on what exactly is “MAGA.”

Maybe you can think of a reason why a daughter would lie about such a thing about her own father?

Does she say that he sexually assaulted her?

Does she say that he sexually assaulted her?

Apparently, you don’t consider a man forcing his underage daughter to shower with him as assault. What kind of sicko are you?

Forcing her to stand in front of him, naked, in the shower is sexual assault. But, she did say the experience is probably what turned her into a sex and drug addict, so you do the math. It’s also reported by USSS that Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden would walk around naked in front of female USSS when he was Vice President. This, the rape of Tara Reade, the videos of groping children, present a pretty sordid picture of the kind of person Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden truly is.

If you are supporting Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden, why haven’t you researched this thoroughly? I researched all the accusations against Trump, though after all the proven lies, I know let the most ridiculous slide. Why are you willing to support someone that is shown to be a pedophile without finding out the facts? Why do people like US have to inform you?

Sure he is, read his daughters diary where he molested her is the shower multiple times.

I’ve noticed that you NEVER post her actual entries—only the bullshit right-wing allegations and social media commentary. Why is that???

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Why don’t you FIND the entries? We’ve all seen them and they’ve been posted before. She has even verified it… TWICE.

I’ve read the entries. She never says that he assaulted her.

She verified that she made the entry. She denies that it means what you say it does. She SUPPORTS her father.

Never once have you posted the entry. Never once. It’s just like your stolen election bullshit. You CLAIM there’s evidence, you CLAIM you’ve seen it, but it doesn’t actually exist. It’s just another one of your viral cult fantasies.

Last edited 12 days ago by Greg

biden is a known and proven degenerate pedophile in addition to being a rapist. biden molested his adolescent daughter on a regular basis while showering with her. biden is a worthless piece of shit.

Last edited 12 days ago by TrumpWon

Well, let’s look at the options. What can forcing your young daughter to shower with you mean?

  1. It means your father is a sick, degenerate, sexually depraved perv that has no morals or boundaries.
  2. ?

Well, let’s look at the options. What can forcing your young daughter to shower with you mean?
 
1.  It means your father is a sick, degenerate, sexually depraved perv that has no morals or boundaries.

2.  ?

Comrade Greggie, the White House is refusing to release the audio tapes of the Hur report. Why is that?

Oh, maybe this is why:

per Bradley Weinsheimer, the transcript “accurately reflect the words spoken on the audio recording.”

i.e. they’re not the same word buts “accurately reflect” what the words are. So tell us again what an honest, upstanding man Joe Biden is.