How Obama, Biden and the Vindmans screwed up Ukraine


Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

It’s out of the mouths of democrats every day. They spam X with it. They’re far more concerned with the border security of Ukraine than they are the borders of the US. No one does more of that spamming than do the Vindman boys, Alexander and Eugene. You almost get the feeling that these two came to the US and infiltrated the military solely for the purposes of furthering the aspirations of Ukraine over those of the US. Together, they conspired against Donald Trump and wound up being key players in Trump’s impeachment. They professed to be all upset about a call Trump made to Zelensky. Alex was listening in and he later reported that he “was worried about the implications for the U.S. Government’s support of Ukraine.” He then told his brother about the call, and the two then made sure to create a situation which saw Trump impeached. Inexplicably, this Vindman had no such concerns when Joe Biden was extorting Ukraine for a billion dollars to shut down an investigation closing in on Hunter Biden.

Their contribution to Trump’s 2020 electoral loss is part of the story of how democrats screwed Ukraine.

For all of their blathering about foreign interference in US elections, no one interferes more in the elections of other countries than democrats.

Back in 2011 under Barack Obama’s aegis, Hillary interfered in Russia’s election, and it is why Putin hates Hillary.

Then in 2014 again under Obama’s aegis, Victoria Nuland decided that she’d engineer a coup in Ukraine and install her own puppet. It’s been called “the mess that Victoria Nuland made.”

Carl Gershman, the neocon president of the US-taxpayer-funded National Endowment for Democracy, explained the plan in a Post op-ed on Sept. 26, 2013. Gershman called Ukraine “the biggest prize” and an important interim step toward toppling Putin, who “may find himself on the losing end not just in the near abroad but within Russia itself.”

For her part, Nuland passed out cookies to anti-Yanukovych demonstrators at the Maidan square, reminded Ukrainian business leaders that the US had invested $5 billion in their “European aspirations,” declared “fuck the EU” for its less aggressive approach, and discussed with US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt who the new leaders of Ukraine should be. “Yats is the guy,” she said, referring to Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

Nuland saw her big chance on Feb. 20, 2014, when a mysterious sniper – apparently firing from a building controlled by the Right Sektor – shot and killed both police and protesters, escalating the crisis. On Feb. 21, in a desperate bid to avert more violence, Yanukovych agreed to a European-guaranteed plan in which he accepted reduced powers and called for early elections so he could be voted out of office.

But that wasn’t enough for the anti-Yanukovych forces who – led by Right Sektor and neo-Nazi militias – overran government buildings on Feb. 22, forcing Yanukovych and many of his officials to flee for their lives. With armed thugs patrolling the corridors of power, the final path to “regime change” was clear.

Instead of trying to salvage the Feb. 21 agreement, Nuland and European officials arranged for an unconstitutional procedure to strip Yanukovych of the presidency and declared the new regime “legitimate.” Nuland’s “guy” – Yatsenyuk – became prime minister.

This is why Putin annexed Crimea. Obama had no reaction but others did:

What the coup also did was revive long pent-up antagonisms between the ethnic Ukrainians in the west, including elements that had supported Adolf Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union during World War Two, and ethnic Russians in the south and east who feared the anti-Russian sentiments emanating from Kiev.

First, in Crimea and then in the so-called Donbas region, these ethnic Russians, who had been Yanukovych’s political base, resisted what they viewed as the illegitimate overthrow of their elected president. Both areas held referenda seeking separation from Ukraine, a move that Russia accepted in Crimea but resisted with the Donbas.


However, when the Kiev regime announced an “anti-terrorism operation” against the Donbas and dispatched neo-Nazi and other extremist militias to be the tip of the spear, Moscow began quietly assisting the embattled ethnic Russian rebels, a move that Nuland, the Obama administration and the mainstream news media called “Russian aggression.”

Amid the Western hysteria over Russia’s supposedly “imperial designs” and the thorough demonizing of Putin, President Barack Obama essentially authorized a new Cold War against Russia, reflected now in new US strategic planning that could cost the US taxpayers trillions of dollars and risk a possible nuclear confrontation.

Things remained quiet through the Trump administration. The Vindman boys then set Trump up and helped Biden “win” the 2020 election. Biden came along and blew everything up.

But Biden’s election brought the US administration and west European establishments back together again. These years also saw Ukraine refuse to guarantee autonomy for the Donbas, and western failure to put any pressure on Kyiv to do so.

This was accompanied by other developments that made Putin decide to bring matters concerning Ukraine to a head. These included the US-Ukrainian Strategic Partnership of November 2021, which held out the prospect of Ukraine becoming a heavily armed US ally in all but name, while continuing to threaten to retake the Donbas by force.

Biden then signaled that he wouldn’t mind a “minor incursion” and shortly afterward Putin began his Ukraine aggression. Now we are mired a proxy war which has been a stalemate for two years. The US is now pouring money into the Ukraine conflict with no end in sight and there is no one who can define what “winning” this war looks like or when it might be seen. There is a not-insignificant possibility that the Ukraine conflict could grow beyond those borders. There is also a strong possibility that Biden will put US troops on the ground to fight Russians directly once Ukraine runs out of bodies.

We’ve been lied to repeatedly. The Eastern separatists want autonomy. Ukraine is NOT a democracy. Zelenskyy has canceled  elections and taken control of the media and shut down opposing political parties. Ukraine losses are understated and Russian losses are probably overstated.

BTW, Paul Manafort was a lobbyist hired by Yanukovych.  Are the pieces coming together for you yet?

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This is the Democrat’s forte… f**king things up on a global scale.

This Vindman clown should at least have been court-martialed and possibly shot for outrageous violations of chain of command. Who the hell does this moon-faced prick think he is interfering in foreign policy like this?

During the 1st impeachment he had the audacity to claim he could make foreign policy for the US with respect to Ukraine.

Watched his “testimony” he really thought he was important. The old regimes coup policies were going forward.
He is still F’n around
Just looking to corrupt a buck
Vindman, for his part, said that while the repair project is a philanthropic effort at the moment, “this may become a viable business with government support.”
“But we aren’t holding our breath or waiting for permission,” he added.

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Democrats thought it was so cute to try and undercut Trump with endless leaks and breaches of security and protocol, not caring one goddamn bit about the long-lasting damage being done to US integrity and trust. All Democrats care about is destroying authority that isn’t them and grabbing power.

Was “in the city” when I turned on a radio station that was local. This guy was talking to the show host about a country named “Ukraine” and how the U.S. needed to send this nation tons of $$ to help it grow and become a developed nation in Europe. This was before Obama even became POTUS. The guy’s name was Vindman and for some reason, that radio interview stuck in my mind.

Vindman and his twin brother, whose WH office was just across the hall from him, has been grifting for Ukraine for well over a decade. For him, Obama was a win. But he was willing to lie because he had a POTUS who wanted to know about the Biden graft of Ukraine.

Maybe Comrade Greggie, who is a Zelenskyy devotee, would like to explain why we need to continue giving Ukraine billions of taxpayer $$ when the Democrats refuse to have Zelenskyy account for all the $$ it has already received. But I doubt it. Hell, Comrade Greggie, who was virulently against the wars in Iran and Afghanistan, won’t even explain why he’s on the Zelenskyy train.

I don’t support the lying tool of a former KGB officer who’s intent on restoring the former Soviet empire, Comrade.

Even the Gen-Zers and Millennials Who WANT to Get Married and Start a Family Aren’t Doing so Because They Can’t Afford It in Dementia Joe’s America

How much is 464 million dollars in Russian rubles?

I have no idea, but the similarities between the two systems when Democrats are in charge here are striking.

Trump puppets sabotaging Ukraine’s defense against Putin’s invasion is what’s known as “reciprocity”.

Ukraine lost the war. Read the news.

I look forward to reading about New York’s seizure of your cult leader’s assets.

Just like in Venezuela, you commies love bannana rule shit.

Trump combines “threats foreign and domestic” into a single package.

Funny how he controlled them and Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden can’t control anything. All that, and corruption, too.

How Bolshevik of you.

Do you look forward to that causing another massive spike in support for Trump because the fascism of the left is being made so undeniably obvious and the fear it can easily be turned on anyone that opposes the regime of the left?

I prefer trials by juries to political violence.

There was no Jury just 1 biased Judge, that the 8th amendment means nothing to.

There was no jury because Trump’s legal team didn’t request a trial by jury. That was their own decision, not the court’s.

Another fucking lie.

Yet you support ANTIFA.

Any bets that Comrade Greggie is a member?

Tell that to your comrades, they seem to have other ideas Spanky.

Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden hung Ukraine out to dry when he gave Putin the green light to invade and then withheld all heavy weapons from Ukraine. I wonder how much he got paid for that?

Actually, you do. If you support Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden, you support Putin doing whatever he wants wherever he wants to do it.

Matt Gaetz — Obama Biden gave large weapons systems to Afghanistan that fell into the hands of Taliban forces. I worry the same thing will happen in Taiwan — and those weapons will be transferred to the People’s Liberation Army of China.

In other words, Gaetz doesn’t think we should provide military aid to Taiwan.

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Gaetz knows surrender joe will abandon Taiwan and leave the military equipment behind just like he did in his Afghanistan debacle.

Trump abandoned them. They were lost by the time Biden took office. As of 01/15/21, there were only 2500 US troops left in all of Afghanistan. Trump also saw to the release of 5,000 captive Taliban fighters before Biden took office—TWICE the number of all remaining US personnel.

Matt Gaetz — Obama Biden gave large weapons systems to Afghanistan that fell into the hands of Taliban forces. 

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You are a fucking liar.

Those are FACTS anyone can easily check. Trump’s calculated sabotage of Biden cost 13 American lives.

Trump was not President in August of 2021. Check your facts.

The person who failed to install bolts in the Boeing plant wasn’t onboard when the hatch blew out. Check your logic.

Trump was not President in August of 2021. Check your facts.

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Um, fact Biden was President and ignored the advice of his generals.
Everything Biden touches goes to shit

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greg is promoting disinformation.

Greg is deeply mentally disturbed, his mind like a rock only dumber.

You always revert to personal attacks when it becomes obvious you’re pitching horse manure.

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You dont know shit. Your severely vaxx damaged brain cant keep track of what has been debunked. Your media keep repeating these stories so do you like a tape recorder, no mind of your own , you glow communist.

He’s still got ice packs on those “bloodbath” bruises.

Wearing a full body cast for the tax returns.

Go fuck your self.

Greggie does it nightly, it’s as close to real sex as he ever gets. Bets are he’s living in mommies basement and is a fat ass pimple.

A stunning example of the remarkable effectiveness of Abbott’s Texas border defenses…

They are assisting BP agents do you have an issue with that? should they be in the massive migrant centers handing out visa cards and plane tickets?

Again, unless force is demonstrated, the threat of force is unconvincing. Now, thanks to Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden, that is going to have to be the next step. That America-hating traitor is the reason razor wire and troops are necessary at our border.

You support lethal violence against US citizens. Maybe a soldier can pick out an unarmed little woman to kill so you’ll approve? Why shouldn’t the National Guard start lobbing tear gas and grenades into the illegal immigrant crowd, like the Capital Police did the January 6th peaceful protesters? Do you think using force is only allowed against US citizens, not illegal immigrants violently forcing their way across our border?

Why don’t you just f**king LEAVE and live in some fascist country you like. You damn sure hate this one.

Why is biden allowing an invasion on the southern border? Did Trump sabotage biden on the border?

Trump sabotaged the first bipartisan bill on immigration and border control to come along in decades—one that a number of historically conservative organizations endorsed as a huge improvement over the current situation. That includes National Border Patrol Council and the Chamber of Commerce.

Another fucking lie.

Nope. That’s precisely what Trump did.


That’s not what his generals said and that’s not what the facts confirm. Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden intentionally f**ked it up, 100%. Like he has EVERYTHING.

Trump sabotaged the first bipartisan bill on immigration and border control to come along in decades

How so, PeeWee? Are you saying that the laws already on the books, many passed by Democrats, were insufficient to stem the Biden tide at the border? If so, how so?

one that a number of historically conservative organizations endorsed as a huge improvement over the current situation. That includes National Border Patrol Council and the Chamber of Commerce.

How so? Are you saying the pro-illegal national Chamber of Commerce is a conservative organization?

Who pumps you full of the b/s you post?

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That bill had nothing whatsoever to do with border security. All it provided was additional assets to process illegal immigrants in faster and to make at least 5,000 a day the LAW, and stopping at 5,000 was optional (like all laws are regarded by Democrats).

The border needs to be secured FIRST and the endless flood of MILLIONS of illegal immigrants a year reduced to a few thousand FIRST before any consideration of reforms is considered. It is a FACT that Democrats want the border open forever with no restrictions at all.

Time for the National Guard to do mag dumps on the criminal illegal alien invaders.

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There we go. A momentary glimpse of what hides behind the MAGA curtain.

Time for the National Guard to do mag dumps on the criminal illegal alien invaders.

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How do you think control is restored when the illegal immigrants no longer fear the image of troops on the border and try to trample them to death? Ask them nicely? Give them more free shit? Promise them citizenship faster?

THIS is the disaster your Disaster in Chief has created.

When the criminal illegal alien invaders themselves are carrying weapons it is an invasion that has become an attack. Lethal use of force is warranted. Sorry, not sorry.
As an added bonus, it solves the problem of repatriation.

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Sadly, thanks to leftist corruption and incompetence, that is going to be how order is restored. The illegal immigrants are going to have to be taught respect for authority and letting them in by the millions does not quite get the correct message across.

If your idea of restoring order involves civil war, you’re living in the wrong country.

If we are defending the border against an onrushing hoard of illegal immigrants, thieves, rapists, drug dealers, human traffickers and killers a “civil war”? YOU don’t even know what country you are in, dumbass.

Civil war is between “citizens” these are invaders, with zero constitutional rights until they are here by legal, lawful means.

Oooh, “mag dumps!” So butch!

Go take a Midol and get over it.

Obama was not adverse to tear gas and less lethal forms of denial, maybe mobile sonic or microwave deterrents.
The Active Denial System is a non-lethal directed-energy weapon developed by the U.S. military, designed for area denial, perimeter security and crowd control. Informally, the weapon is also called the heat ray since it works by heating the surface of targets, such as the skin of targeted human beings. Raytheon had marketed a reduced-range version of this technology. 
Rubber bullets, less lethal but painful forms of persuasion that they need to go back and attempt a legal form of entry.

We just heard what Biden did in a congressional hearing from his own generals, you can drop the lies.

Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden and Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden only f**ked up the Afghanistan withdrawal. Even his generals threw him under the bus where he belongs. Got 13 service members killed as well.

I am not your Comrade and I don’t support any totalitarian, and that includes the world class grifter, Zelenskyy. But you do. You support his oppression of the press, the churches, the ethnic Russians and refusing to hold elections. You support his Nazi ways. You were totally anti-war during the Iraq-Afghanistan days, pissing and moaning about spending billions with the industrial war complex. Whining how our military budget was more $$ than most nation’s total budgets.

But here you are, giving us the mental picture of you licking Zelenskyy’s ass without explaining why you have changed your tune from the Obama days.

I don’t give a crap about Russia. Nor do I give a crap about Haiti, or any of those other nations that have people who refuse to defend themselves and want us to it for them. Ukraine is losing, dipshit, and Zelenskyy will one day leave that nation (after most of his military aged men have died in his meat grinder because he refuses to negotiate) only to live high on the hog somewhere like the French Riveria. And you will be, once again, shown to be the liar and fool you are.

The South Carolina primary was ongoing as the impeachment was getting underway. That’s when Clyburn threw his support behind Pedo Pete.

Had they thrown Pedo Pete under the bus, Trump’s curiosity about what was going on in Ukraine would have brought the whole house of cards down.

Instead, he was installed as the nominee, and thus Trump’s investigation became “election interference” and digging up dirt on his artificially installed opponent.

The impeachment was the cover-up.

A zillion Ukrainians and Russians are dead because the Democrat party insists on playing fuck-fuck games to maintain a death grip on power.

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Queer boi vindeman should be on the front line in ukraine.