Move me on to any black square
Use me anytime you want
Just remember that the goal
Is for us all to capture all we want
As soon as I saw this picture I thought of that song.
The pandering has gotten ridiculous. Over at The Conservative Treehouse Sundance also had a great take on this:
A Reunion of the New Black Pander Party pic.twitter.com/esIBGvlCt6
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) June 8, 2020
Today democrats took a knee in a great obsequious ceremony for all to see when they presented their bill basically meant to eviscerate police departments across the country. In essence, they pledged fealty.
democrats refused to condemn – or even acknowledge- the Antifa violence:
Every Democrat in the Senate has refused to acknowledge the violence caused by antifa throughout the protests and riots that have occurred since the death of George Floyd.
The Daily Caller contacted every Senate Democrat asking if they would consider legislation to label the group a terrorist organization. Each office was given over 24 hours to respond to the question. The group has been participating in riots since Floyd died while in police custody after an officer put his knee into the back of his neck for over eight minutes while he was handcuffed and on the ground.
democrats cemented their allegiance to BLM and to Antifa when they refused to say whether they were in favor of defunding, disbanding or dismantling police departments:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Democrats have largely embraced the activists packing into streets nationwide to decry the killings of black men and women by law enforcement but so far express wariness at protesters’ calls to defund the police.
While they are clearly attuned to the cries of demonstrators from New York to Los Angeles, some top Democratic elected officials are proceeding cautiously with any suggestion they would slash police budgets to fund programs to address other social ills.
Corey Booker took the coward’s way out:
Senator Cory Booker said during an interview Sunday on NBC News that he understood the sentiment behind the “defund the police” push but would not use that phrase.
Meet the new DNC boss:
A Black Lives Matter leader has declared war on the police and plans to release a blueprint for change that involves Black Panther style armed ‘patrols’ monitoring the behavior of officers on the streets, DailyMailTV can reveal.
Hawk Newsome, Chairman of BLM’s Greater New York chapter, says the black rights group is ‘mobilizing’ its base and aims to develop a highly-trained ‘military’ arm to challenge police brutality head on.
Hawk is calling the shots now. Even at the NY Times and the Washington Post
Black Lives Matter now effectively runs the newsrooms of the New York Times and Washington Post
Soon: Black Lives Matter will effectively run big-city police departments
— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) June 8, 2020
See this scarf they’re wearing?
About that:
I had to say something about the American politicians shameless and ignorantly using the Kente fabric as a prop in their virtue signaling.
*I’m usually more mild mannered than this so please forgive me, I’m upset. pic.twitter.com/aZMjgsHujS
— Obianuju Ekeocha (@obianuju) June 8, 2020
Andrea Mitchell laments that this anti-police rhetoric could be used against democrats in the fall:
.@mitchellreports fears GOP will use left's radical defund the police push to "demonize" Dems pic.twitter.com/dMSR7f0IRk
— Kyle Drennen (@kjdrennen) June 8, 2020
No one needs to demonize democrats. They did that all on their own. All Republicans need do it remind America of it. No one thinks the police are perfect and can’t do with a bit of improvement but Americans overwhelmingly support them.
We’ll take all those pawns.
Check mate
I’ve seen all good people turn their heads each day
So satisfied I’m on my way
I’ve seen all good people turn their heads each day
So satisfied I’m on my way
Oh, and that song..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3eHs5eHx4
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@retire05, #100:
We’ve already had that conversation. If you’re interested, Google “voter suppression tactics”. You can then click on either ALL or NEWS for an abundance of specific, detailed information. Which, of course, you really don’t want.
@Greg:
How exactly is it being done ..do tell. I know you are just repeating baseless bullshit you hear on the boob tube. But you must have 1 tiny bit of information or evidence how Trump is effecting elections or polling places.
– from strict ID laws to closing polling places to purging voter rolls – is deliberately making it hard for minority communities in America, which traditionally …
Closing voting places yes done by democrats here in our April primary, refusing to use trained NG members to man the polls.
In my town every polling place was open with covid precautions in place.
Strict ID laws well yes you also need an ID to buy beer, drive a car, cash a check, and so many other things. The Democrats think Blacks are too stupid to obtain an ID that just racist.
Purging voter rolls, like dead people or those that have put in an address change with the US post office? We do have same day registration, just bring your ID and a utility bill or or a piece of mail with your name on it. They accepted a utility bill from camp for me, camp is an hours drive away but the bill sent to my home address. So diificult to overcome again soft racism or dumb democrats pointing fingers.
@Greg:
No, you and I have not had that conversation. You don’t have conversations. You make statements you’re either unwilling, or incapable, or backing up.
If I wanted to use a search engine to substantiate your claims, I don’t have to have instructions from a clown like you.
Once again, you are incapable of backing up a statement you made. Your handlers need to do a better job with you otherwise they are wasting their nickel.
@retire05: Maybe CNN can air a sesame street segment for him and their other ill educated viewers
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/app-news-section/cnn-sesame-street-race-town-hall-app-june-6-2020-app/index.html
This is how stupid they think Greg and others are, maybe its true.
Fredos ignorance “Please, show me where it says protesters are … it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful,” he said.
Yo Cuomo, Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
that peaceably part there.
@kitt:
Of course. People who can think for themselves do not subscribe to the Democrat practice of creating victims so the Democrats can be their rescuer.
Here is the Democrat policy:
You WILL submit
You WILL take a knee
You WILL admit your white privilege and that you’re a racist
You WILL submit
I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
@retire05:
That’s inspiring. You should get it tattooed across your butt.
@retire05: The plans are set, already in motion. We easily submitted to them shutting down the country.When they figured out we were not going to submitt to the changing goals, they took a horrible incident and are riding it but now pushing that to far. Demonizing our everyday heros trying to take away our protections. One idiot on here cant even admit that without funding the departments wont solve daily homicides, or they have no plan.
@Michael: You continue to prove with all lib trolls grey matter, doesnt matter.
@retire05, #105:
It seems to me that the GOP that has fallen to its knees before (or possibly behind) Donald Trump, and the DNC that has resisted his b.s. every inch of the way.
Trump demands conformity and submission to his authority. I’ve always had a problem with such people.
Exploited Again – Financial Contributions to Black Lives Matter are Being Funneled to Biden Campaign….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
@Greg:
As an American, you SHOULD be outraged yourself at left wing anarchist groups taking over public and private property, terrorizing citizens, extorting businesses and in open rebellion against the United States. EVERY PERSON THERE that cannot prove residency is a terrorist and should have their names on the terrorist registry. NO ONE THERE should ever be allowed to own a weapon ever again and they should all be in jail; GITMO is where we put terrorists.
But you aren’t outraged; you like it. This is what the Democrat party has been working up to. Proof of this is how the Democrat excuse for leadership is doing to protect innocent citizens (though this is exactly what they’ve voted for). Nothing proves the dereliction of the entire Democrat party like this national embarrassment. I wish we had another political party in this country worthy of voting for. Republicans are the ONLY choice, and Democrats have made that so.
If you’ve seen their demands, you understand they were made with the intention of being impossible to meet. Right? So, what do you think the solution is, in light of the cowardly, incompetent government in Seattle and Washington being absolutely derelict of their responsibilities?
@Michael:
Well, I guess someone can imagine different definitions in order to allow them to excuse away the vast stupidity of the people they have joined in common thought, but “de” means to undo, take out, remove, eliminate and “fund” means to provide money or support for. Do the math.
Naturally, even people trying to take over power in the nation for their own ideological purposes realize that without order, their power is impotent and to have order, you need the police. However, the Democrats need to cultivate the support of even anarchist fools so they pretend to support their idiotic fantasies. They are like spoiled children and Democrats are afraid to say “no” for fear of having to deal with a tantrum. Nevertheless, we all know what “defund” actually mean and is actually INTENDE to mean, don’t we? Yes, we do. Let’s not try to kid anyone.
How can fair elections in places like Washington, where the very government their allows and encourages lawlessness and anarchy? If they don’t care about the citizens of their cities and states, how can they be trusted to defend the sanctity of their vote?
Absolute and unrefined bullshit and you know it. Your party of sore loser crybabies have been attacking Trump since November of 2016. He has done nothing to receive such vitriol but win an election. There would be NO divisiveness or disruption if the Democrats were not committing and inciting it. NONE. EVERY act of disruption is a direct result of DEMOCRAT action, not any of Trump’s words.
Have you heard anyone from BLM denouncing their name being used to justify this rebellion? You aren’t going to be able to pick and choose how BLM is stained by such a seditious action.
No one doubts you believe having the government take care of your is preferable to personal freedom. You don’t have to reinforce it.
@July 4th American: So, idiot morons making donations to an organization that is supposed to lead a revolution that will destroy the police, courts and government as we know it are actually contributing to the campaign of the most establishment, incompetent, unaware and pliable candidate in recent history! Oh, the JUSTICE!
@July 4th American: They had to create another black face since Acorn was outed. Barrys little invites to the White House are turning a buck now, what a pimp.
@Deplorable Me, #111:
Since my mind does not live within the confines of the right wing propaganda bubble, the events as you have described them don’t actually exist. What you’re outraged by is somebody’s spin of the news. It’s calculated lie-and-distortion-based political manipulation.
@Greg: So, to keep from acting like an American citizen and being repulsed by a rebellion on our very soil, you simply deny it exists? Well, no wonder, then, that you voted for such total losers as Obama and Hillary; they’ve NEVER had the best interests of this country at heart. Lying about criminal insurrection won’t make it go away and neither will it prevent bloodshed. That’s all on your worthless, incompetent, anti-American party.
In any coup attempt, you have to nullify forces you know won’t support you. Police people are mostly conservative, politically, and won’t support the Dems violent take over of the nation.
They’ve purged Academia of non-leftists, and have allow entertainment to pursue of pogrom of anyone who even smell of something other than complete cult-compliance.
Fox was formed BECAUSE the media was leaning left, and provided a business opportunity. I don’t support Right-wing echo chambers any more than I support left-wing ones, but the reach and influence of FOX doe not begin to level the field against other information sources of Left-wing propaganda, such as CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, WaPo, NYT, Newsweek, Time, RollingStone, the Daily show, Bill Maher, The View, Google, Facebook (less so now), Twitter, etc, etc, etc.
They’ve also compromised the FBI and Military, purging them of all non-loyalist members.
@Deplorable Me:
I have a serious question for you. In a few months, when the society-wide discussion of how we can re-envision the police to make them more friendly, effective, and efficient is in full swing, with ideas flying and op-eds being written and legislation being proposed, are you still going to be sitting here saying, “Nu-uh! You said ‘defund’ back in June, and that means ‘take all the money away'”?
You’ve already fallen behind in the discussion that’s taking place, and I was wondering whether you had any plans to catch up and take part in it.
@Michael: It wont appease Antifa or BLM they want tax dollars to go to other social programs, they dont just want part, they want the pension funds as well.
The highly trained forensic teams, those with vast knowledge of gangs and their members, child abuse officers, those trained to handle rape victims they want those gone. They know not what they demand because they are highly but poorly educated.
@kitt:
That wasn’t really the question, was it?
The discussion about the future of policing in our country is going to take place—is already taking place—and the two extreme ends of the spectrum will likely be left out of it, as is almost always the case. What remains is to decide whether you want to participate in the discussion everyone else is having or to keep repeating the Webster’s Dictionary definition of “defund” until society has moved on without you. The choice is yours.
@Michael: Floyd’s death was exploited by the Cult if the Left.
There is a NO society-wide discussion, only left-wing propaganda
No systemic racism. Best racial relations in the History of America.
The Dems were caught pandering to a movement they created. They want the abolishment of a institution that doesn’t support them. Media, entertainment, education…FBI…military…
Now the police must be purged.
Your 16-year-old, 1989 understanding of race will destroy our country.
@Michael: The question is do we just chuck the best policing system on the planet for a few miscreant malcontents did the people of Seattle get to vote on this gem?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/seattle-cedes-fire-station-to-protesters-to-turn-into-community-center
Home insurance often depends on how close a fire station is not how close a teen hang out is.
@Nathan Blue:
It has already started. People are talking about it all over TV, radio, and podcasts. Even though you wish they weren’t, they are. Even if you think it’s a stupid idea, they are. Pretending they aren’t simply because you need to disparage and disagree with everything I write is foolish, but if you want to stand there with your fingers in your ears, shouting “LA LA LA LA! I CAN’T HEAR YOU!” that’s certainly your choice to make.
@kitt:
From what I can see, the people who are actually participating in the discussion in the media and the world of politics don’t seem to agree with you. They don’t concur on what needs to happen, or even the extent of the problem, but nobody I’ve seen is saying that this is about a few miscreant malcontents. But what do they know? They’re just people with actual influence in society and their hands on the actual levers of power. You keep fighting the good fight here by—*checks notes*—commenting on this blog. Everybody will probably come around to your way of seeing things.
@Michael: I
The things being discussed and said are old, stale, and 40-years in the past. It’s just being foisted to the underthinking as “new”.
Your understanding of race is infantile. The current “discussion” allows the less intelligent and less thoughtful in our country feel as though they are suddenly “woke”. I had your current awareness about race decades ago, but kept growing
Keep up, junior. You’re behind.
@Michael:
(Reuters) – “The Minneapolis City Council on Friday unanimously passed a resolution to pursue a community-led public safety system to replace the police department following the death of George Floyd at the hands of the city’s police.
The move comes days after a veto-proof majority of the council voted to disband the police department after the country erupted in protest over the killing of Floyd, a black man who died when a white police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes.”
I’m sure this will all work out well for the citizens of Minneapolis. You know, when someone is breaking into your home and has a gun and you call 911 and ask for the “community-led public safety” officer to come quick and you get told “he/she/it will be there sometime tomorrow between the hours of noon and 6:00 p.m.”
@retire05: Thank you for calling 911, Hold please the next available agent will be with you soon, your safety is very important to us your estimated wait time is 4 minutes. The agent finally answers with a thick Indian accent he says his name is Bill and he asks you if it is an android or apple you are calling on.
@Nathan Blue:
Wait; I could have sworn that you’re the guy who, just a little earlier this evening, wrote this:
You need to pick one story and stick with it.
@Michael: Sorry to disrupt your teenage-level “gotcha” word parsing, but it’s pretty clear what I said.
There is NO society-wide discussion.
The things being discussed and said (by Leftists) are old, stale, and 40-years in the past.
Cherry-picked headlines that assume White Privilege and Systemic racism are a problem is not a society-wide discussion. They are racialist propaganda from people who know a cursory analysis of these…uh…non-academic concepts don’t hold up to intellectual rigor.
Disagreeing with the rapidly disintegrating Leftist ideologies will not be tolerated. That’s actually why you’re hear, with the misguided understanding that you are “standing up” to those ignorant right-wingers when it’s your yourself that have a bit of learning to do.
Read on, useful leftist idiot. Although the definition of ‘useful’ in this context may vary…
Ahh, the eternal, immutable ability of lefties to refuse to admit they just stepped in it…
While you are working overtime trying to redefine the meaning of plain spoken words to prevent the voters from actually understanding what the left is attempting to sneak into effect, let’s take a look at the actual words (and, just for fun, the actual definition provided by the actual people stating the actual words…) Admittedly, this is for Seattle only as I didn’t have the time or inclination to research statements from other areas, but given the other similarities between groups, I don’t imagine their ‘dictionaries’ vary all that much.
A portion of the actual manifesto released by the CHAZ occupiers (in other words Greg, not the result of ‘conflating’ by the right; and, here’s your ‘handle’ Michael):
Seems fairly unequivocal to me.
Maybe one of our lefties can explain to me how the actual words – and self-provided definitions of said words – don’t mean what the people who said them really meant by them.
‘Defunding’ may not be a ‘synonym’ for ‘abolition’, but they used both words. Together. To make sure people understood what they meant.
And it wasn’t an ‘assumption’ it WAS ‘what actual people were actually saying’ – at least the people that actually spoke for the folks who actually occupied a portion of a major city.
And I’m fairly certain it IS a definition that at least most Democrats agree on, the spin started after they realized most of the ‘normies’ didn’t like it, so they had to start obfuscating.
@Nathan Blue:
For the last time, there is now an ongoing society-wide discussion of how the role of the police will change in the United States.
I’m sure you remember that that was the focus of this interaction, right? Not our respective feelings about race, but the meaning of “defund the police,” and what that will mean in the real world. I know you want it to be about your highly-evolved understanding of race relations in America, but this time it’s about the whole “defund the police” thing—what it means and how it will play out across the country.
To pretend that the entire country is not now discussing what it means to “defund the police” is foolish in the extreme, because it’s happening all across the nation as we sit here and debate about whether or not it’s happening. Further, pretending that the phrase “defund the police” has only one single meaning—a meaning dictated by the dictionary definition—is just about as foolish, and I can’t figure out what your percentage is in doing so. Even Trump has now entered the discussion, and he’s thinking about issuing a ban on chokeholds. (Will he do it? Should he do it? Those are topics for another day. The point is that the discussion is happening now, with you or without you.)
@Jay:
Ah. So you’ve looked at the statements of one group in one city, and you believe that you now have a full understanding of how everybody across the country feels about it.
I’ll try again. The slogan “defund the police” means different things to different people, just like, say, the phrase “tax reform.” There’s already a spectrum of interpretations of this concept which has, let’s be clear, popped into being only within the last week. Some people will take it literally, as you have. Others will take it figuratively. I imagine that most people pulling the relevant levers of power—that is to say, city councils and county boards of supervisors—will not literally erase law enforcement from existence, but will, rather, change funding and reallocate duties and responsibilities away from the police force and toward social services.
But that’s just my guess; unlike you, I can neither read minds nor foretell the future.
What does it mean to defund planned parenthood?
What does it mean to defund NPR?
What did it mean when democrats defund the south Vietnamese?
Or, when the democrats defunded the Chinese fighting mao to prevent communism?
@July 4th American:
Are you suggesting, then, that the literal elimination of law enforcement is the only way that people are using this term?
It will take only a few seconds’ perusal of today’s headlines to prove that isn’t the case.
Also: *defunded the South Vietnamese
@Michael: Society-wide discussion isnt happening at all its being screamed by extremist leftists into the echo chamber. No discussion just plow ahead into the thick fog full speed ahead. Discussion is not welcome, this is an old fashioned democrat lynching. Even late night boob tube hosts are throwing gas on the fire, as if celebrities opinions really matter, they can afford body guards and private security.
You are pulling the same tactic because you cant see through the fog, are only hearing the ignorant voices echoing out of it.
Just another reason for flight from the democrat run asylum zones.
Import Somalians end up with something that looks like Somalia
we now may need travel advisories
WARNING: Although much safer than it was during the late 1990s and early 2000s, travel to Mogadishu remains extremely dangerous, with violent crime and terror attacks at dangerous levels. Many governments advise against all travel to Mogadishu and soon Minneapolis.
We wont be seeing this insanity in less blue areas, we will back the police.
@kitt:
Those darned Leftists over at Fortune magazine:
The stupid leftists have been caught in a word semantics exercise. When polling data suggested many leftists had been thinking with their sphincters they quickly redefined the term defund. If an entity that appropriates funds chooses to alter that appropriation and use those funds elsewhere, that is a cut. If that entity no longer wishes to fund an activity, that is defunding. Pretty basic accounting 101.
@Michael: Those darned Leftists over at Fortune magazine: yes Fortune has editoral leftist leanings look at the huge corporations that are lining up with BLM dearest ignorant one.(CNN owned by ATT )
Invest in mental heath, nice try but nearly every mass shooter was under some type of mental heath care, will the psychologist be able to lock them up away from society?
Addiction recovery to failure rate is pathetic even with all the free needles and low cost methadone, a drug more addicting than heroine.
Stay deep in the fog, reality is hard for you.
Picture your mom home alone calling 911 and being put on hold because of divesting.
@July 4th American:
You’re off the FA reservation here a little bit, Tex. The argument the others are making here is that “defund the police” has only one meaning, which is “eliminate the police entirely.” when you write “they quickly redefined the term defund,” you’re admitting that the phrase has more than one meaning, which has been my point all along. Are you sure you want to go there?
@kitt:
I have trouble believing that you are literally incapable of keeping to the topic, but there it is.
The discussion is not about the efficacy of moving money to mental health, rehab, and so on; you were arguing that the only meaning of the phrase “defund the police” was “eliminate the police entirely.” Did you forget that, or did you not know what the topic was when you jumped in?
Well, my mom’s dead, but thanks for that.
@Michael: You brought up the divestment investment into the topic but nice try in your ignorant deflection, truth hurts you.
The subject is democrats being willing pawns to BLM, you dont like your mindless point proven as ineffective and insane.
My mom is well, thank you, 91 and still in her house cooking, cleaning and gardening, not voting democrat which means she is still quite in charge of her faculties.
@kitt:
Wow. That was as cruel as I have ever had anyone be to me on this site. It’s actually kind of breathtaking. What did you get out of doing that? What was your goal?
@Michael: You are ignoring the reality. The left is screaming to defund the police and, in places like Minneapolis, LA, NYC and Seattle, they are following the actual meaning of the term, as well as the spirit in which it is issued. Now, no doubt establishment Democrats are trying desperately to walk that tight wire of appearing to support the far left mob of their party while also assuring actual PEOPLE that they aren’t stupid enough to eliminate police, especially as so many of them PERSONALLY rely on police for their own personal well-being and safety. But, that’s not solving the problem of those who are dedicated to destroying law enforcement and a stable, safe society. The Democrats have certainly pandered themselves into a tight corner. It’s going to be fun to watch them try to squirm out of it.
As difficult as it is to find an actual question in all that gobbledy-goop, my response is, if this was such a “systemic problem” and so many have already offered up their “solutions”… WHY didn’t the worst of the worst, the Democrat centers, solve the problem long ago?
They problem with that evasion is that no one left of Manchin denounces the insurrection or their demands. Sure, they are mostly playing the stupid, ignorant, naive insurrectionists and anarchists, but they aren’t able to openly make that point clear and quite a few are reading the obvious message.
@kitt:
I wonder if after all this insurance premiums will go up in areas where Democrats elected? It should, because Democrats have shown that they will happily let mobs destroy private property.
Will the psychologist be able to investigate a murder? Will another psychologist be able to investigate the FIRST psychologist’s murder?
@Jay: The purpose of people like Michael is to convince everyone observing events that the reality is not what they think they see. Just relax, calm down and ignore all this talk about “defund the police”… until they ARE defunded and it is too late.
Yeah, but… As @Michael: tells us, that’s not what they mean. They just couldn’t spell “Peace, love, community and civility”.
@Michael:
Just as when pro-lifers proclaim “Defund Planned Parenthood.” They are NOT saying divert the money to another source of abortion, they are saying “Shut Planned Parenthood down.” The statement is declarative. No equivocation.
No, that is incorrect. When you say “I didn’t really mean “defund” as in no funding at all, I meant divert resources to other things beside the police. Defund and divert have two separate meanings. Now, you can wordsmith all you want and until Hell freezes over, but words have meaning that cannot be altered by any amount of wordsmithing.
The Minneapolis City Council just voted to “replace” the city PD. To replace something that already exists you have to abolish the existing thing. Logic 101.
You also choose to ignore that the goal of both BLM and Antifa, is the dismantling of police departments. To abolish an agency, is to defund that agency although I’m sure you will have some wordsmithing disagreement with that, so basically, you’re presenting a strawman argument against the actual goals of those most heavily invested in the “peaceful” protests, i.e. rioting and looting and killing cops.
@Deplorable Me: Most of the minority businesses were not insured for just that reason. So they are not coming back those areas will not recover be burnt out for many years to come.
How did I hurt lil Mikeys fweelings? by pointing out the actual subject of the thread? not his insane deflection of subject matter?
@kitt:
No. It was when, after you brought my mother into the discussion and I pointed out that she was dead, you wrote
What was the point of that? The information you shared about your mother fit into the conversation in no way other than to gloat about the fact that your mom is alive and mine’s dead.
Mothers are generally off-limits during disagreements in polite society, at least in my experience. Was whatever you got out of doing that worth it?
@Michael:
No there’s not. There is only left-wing propaganda. Crime was going down in the United States, and police misconduct cases were going down as well. This was a wildly exploited cherry picking event meant only for the purpose of left-wing power.
The police have been better than they’ve ever been, and that’s a fact…. For the last time.
A career felon getting killed in one of the worst parts of the country is not the absolute establishment of a Nationwide policing problem.
Floyd-19
@Michael: No fool it was to point out that just because your mom is dead doesnt mean that all old women alone in their homes dont need the speedy services of 911, not needed causeMikey no longer has a senior woman to worry about? SENIOR LIVES MATTER. You were simply unable to empathize, its all about Mikey and his tender fweelins. Do you honestly believe the entire Black community wants no police services but more social service workers and shrinks? Malcontent and miscreants with the insane backing of marxists and NWO 2030 agenda freaks.
You really are to big a pussy to be on the internet if someone you dont know or care about can make you personally feel anything.
@kitt:
No, and if you’ll remember, I’m the one who’s saying that “eliminate the police” is not the only interpretation of “defund the police” that is being discussed.
I’m not even saying that I’m behind the idea of “defunding” the police. The police are an important part of our society. I’m simply pointing out that a) the discussion is happening, whether you want it to or not, and b) people are coming to the discussion with a wide variety of agendas, not the single-minded one that you are envisioning.
Yes, I get it: you regret nothing, and hatred means never having to say you’re sorry.
@kitt:
Are you entirely unaware of the irony inherent in your typing these two sentences side-by-side?
@Michael: Not as unaware are you with your double speak, I dont hate you Mikey I dont know you, you assign fweelings to a person on a keyboard . You dont want to walk out of the fog and stop with the repeating of ignorant psyops propaganda dont expect any acceptance of your corkscrew logic from this side. The subject of the thread escapes you doesnt it.
Let me help you Democrats are willing pawns of marxists and anarchists, I tend to think they are the puppet masters hijacking the message to further their own agendas.
Yes you are a pussy, go cry into you pillow or man up and try discussing the subject at hand.
@Michael #130
Not at all what I said. But, then again, if you think about it, lefties are masters of prevarication…
“It depends on what the meaning of *is* is”
“It wasn’t ‘rape’ rape”
“Wipe? You mean like with a cloth?”
“The deleted emails were about yoga and wedding plans”
“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan”
“Of course we’re not coming for your guns” Although Beto dropped the mask on that one.
What I said was I didn’t have the time or the inclination. Time, as in I have a spouse with a serious health issue that requires a lot of the time I used to spend participating here. Inclination, as in I choose not to spend much time wallowing through the word salads of those trying to justify their anti-social predilections.
But, hey, let’s go ahead and check out another city. How about we check out Minneapolis, Ground Zero for our current ‘discussions’.
Again, that seems fairly unequivocal. Dismantle, Replace, Defund – oh, and there’s Abolish again.
The mayor was booed when he wouldn’t commit to ‘defunding AND ABOLISHING’ the police.
Only a doublethink newspeak hardcore lefty could misinterpret the meaning of that.
Do you think when folks said they wanted to ‘abolish’ slavery, they didn’t actually want to, you know, really, actually not have it anymore? They really just wanted to start a national discussion about it could look different?
But, you know, still exist in some sort of ‘reimagined’ state? And, you know, move the funding around so that they could have more access to social services? Conflict de-escalation assistance with the overseers?
My turn to try again.
I didn’t say anything about how *I* took it. I quoted the actual words provided to the media by the POC who said ‘This document is to represent the black voices who spoke in victory…’
So, if by literally, you mean Actual Words, Quoted from *their* press release, then yes, I suppose that could be construed as taking things literally… But not my opinion or interpretation. Their words. Quoted. I didn’t think it was a difficult concept. {rolls eyes}
And, just out of curiosity why is it that when these marginalized voices plainly articulate what they clearly emphasize that they mean to say – that you and others need to jump into the conversation to take over and ‘explain’ (‘whitesplain’?) that what they plainly said isn’t what they really meant?
I’ve read what’s been said by other protesting groups. They use an awful lot of words to dance around the fact that they won’t clearly state ‘No, we don’t want to cut all the funding’.
Well, that’s not quite true. They want the funding to remain, they just want to spend it for their own pet projects, rather than the police.
Perhaps.
I did find this tidbit regarding some of those ‘levers of power’ folks.
How many calls have we heard at various times for President Trump and other Republicans to ‘condemn’ statements from various groups?
If the other protest groups – and/or the Democrats disagree with the plain ‘This means 100% of the funding’ statement, where have they made any public statements to that effect?
Note that in the above article, they weren’t told to speak out against it, they were warned ‘not to use the rhetoric’.
In other words they know damn good and well what the intent is, they just don’t want to be forced into a public position agreeing with it – until after it won’t hurt their election chances.
I didn’t have to ‘read minds’. I offered a direct quote from a public statement. Plain words, plainly spoken.
Since no one on the left has come out against it, but merely resorted to trying to offer alternative interpretations in order to obfuscate the actual goal until it’s too late.
As far as foretelling the future…
“Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it” – George Santayana
As the protesters run around destroying the past.
It isn’t that hard to predict the results…