democrats: willing pawns of Black Lives Matter

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@retire05, #48:

If you are incapable of answering direct, specific questions, perhaps you should just stop posting.

It’s a lot easier just to ignore the bait you continuously throw out.

I notice you didn’t have much to say about the GOP’s systematic, multi-state voter suppression efforts. It’s good that the extent of it is being revealed in the primaries. It will make it much harder for republicans to get away with in November.

Between that, their denial of racial bias in law enforcement, their botched COVID-19 response, their disregard for the obvious dangers of a building second wave of infections, and their inexplicable infatuation with the incompetent, amoral opportunist in the White House, they may be setting themselves up for an epic political disaster. If so, they’ll blame Trump afterward, but it will really be their own fault for abandoning all conservative party principles to enable him. Deals with the Devil never end well.

@Greg:

It’s a lot easier just to ignore the bait you continuously throw out.

OK, so you’ve established that you cannot discern between “bait” and a request for a open and honest request for your opinion. Got it.

I notice you didn’t have much to say about the GOP’s systematic, multi-state voter suppression efforts.

I haven’t said much about any subject other than my request for a dialog with you about the questions I posed to you. They were not “bait”, they were not “gotcha” questions, they were not a set-up. I sincerely wanted to know your answers and all you have done is reaffirm my opinion that you have no original thoughts of your own.

You simply proved you’re not up to the task. I’m glad you finally exposed your ignorance.

@Greg: If we’re offering evaluation, greg, your usual MO is to post regurgitated Left-wing nutjob news and promptly change the discussion when handily proven wrong.

Your a troll. The goal is to saturate the discussion with an endless stream of your garbage, not engage in actual discussion.

You’re paid to pollute FA, or indoctrinated to do such.

I’ve noticed you diction changes as well, suggesting multiple people using one account.

Your merely an extension of the Cult of the Left and easily dismissed.

@Nathan Blue:

If we’re offering evaluation, greg, your usual MO is to blah blah blah…

Now do me! Now do me!

@retire05: From who ever that is

Now do me! Now do me!

The comedy just never stops.

@Greg: You’d save everyone’s time and effort, especially your own, if you stopped posting altogether. You offer nothing to conversation.

I clearly engage opposing viewpoints, but that’s not what you offer.

Paid information “bad actors” are clearly out there for the purpose of information warfare.

You are such.

@Nathan Blue:

I notice you didn’t have much to say about the GOP’s systematic, multi-state voter suppression efforts.

The Obama campaign paid people, like Comrade Greggie, to sit in their pajamas in the basements of their parents to “infiltrate” conservative blogs and spew the Obama talking points. They were on the Obama For America payroll. That’s just about the time Comrade Greggie showed up. Why is he still here? Obama For America morphed into Organizing For Action which is still in force.

Trump’s average job approval rating is in free fall. Should I request a raise from my standard rate of a penny per post?

Seriously, nobody pays you to promote this guy, correct? So why would you think anyone would pay me to criticize him? Some people are just inclined to say what they think.

@Greg: #67 Save that post, tell us I told you so after a couple of Trump rallies that have no overflow. CNN polling the DNC now theres something to rant about. Was it 98% chance for a Clinton win after they set up a fixed election for her?
How does defund the police to slush the money back to democrat donors sit with people?

How quickly the Left morphs.
It was just 2015 when the DNC wrote a position paper advising all elected Democrats to stay far, far away from Antifa and BLM.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/10/leaked-2015-democrat-memo-warned-lawmakers-dont-offer-support-for-radical-black-lives-matter/

A leaked 2015 internal Democrat Party memo warned top House Democrats not to embrace the Black Lives Matter movement.

The DCCC is the official arm of the Democrat Party charged with electing Democrats to the U.S. House of Representatives. When this 2015 memo was drafted, Democrats were in the minority in the U.S. House—seeking a return to the majority that they did not achieve in the 2016 elections as now President Donald Trump won the White House and the GOP held its House majority riding the president’s coattails. Later, though, Democrats would win the House majority back in the 2018 midterm elections.

Perry warned recipients of his memo in the next line that it was top secret and confidential—not to be shared with anyone. “This document should not be emailed or handed to anyone outside of the building,” he wrote. “Please only give campaign staff these best practices in meetings or over the phone.”

But the document ended up leaking through hacker Guccifer 2.0.

Black Lives Matter seeks “Criminal Justice Reform,” particularly “sentencing reform, ending prison industrial complex, police reform: referring to hiring, training, and unfair policing tactics.”

The DCCC memo then elaborates on recommended tactics for Democrats to handle Black Lives Matter activists. When meeting with them, the Democrats warned against large gatherings.

“If approached by BLM activists, campaign staff should offer to meet with local activists,” the Democrat memo reads. “Invited BLM attendees should be limited. Please aim for personal or small group meetings.”

In this section, the Democrats warn their members and candidates against supporting anything Black Lives Matter activists are pushing them to back.

“Listen to their concerns,” the memo says, but “don’t offer support for concrete policy positions.

The final part of the memo recommends Democrat talking points in response to Black Lives Matter. The memo explicitly tells Democrats not to say “all lives matter” and warns them to not speak of “black on black crime.”

This is because, the memo notes, Black Lives Matter activists consider these points “red herring attacks.”

The Black Lives Matter movement was furious with the DCCC memo at the time of the leak.,

@kitt:

@Greg: Fine you explain defund,

Comrade Greggie doesn’t explain anything. He simply comes here with his verbose OrangeManBad. He can’t explain anything because he doesn’t think, or even have his own opinions, he only can parrot what he is told by his left wing handlers.

@kitt:

We should defund the UN, not the police. And while we’re at it, we can defund all public universities and their radical left wing professors. No more NFL games in publicly funded stadiums. If the team wants to buy the stadium and pay for its upkeep, great. Defund ESL classes. Any punk tearing down public monuments should be identified from the videos (most of them have driver’s licenses), stuffed in jail a few days and fined heavily until the cost of those monuments is reimbursed. Give them a criminal record and see how fast they get a high paying job after having to pay a private university for a crappy education.

Critcal to the Democrats political platform is a) Convincing black people Republicans are racist and oppressing them, and b) manufacturing this supposed oppression in the form of disinformation while actually oppressing blacks just to get their votes.

Meanwhile, the Republican President is demonstrably doing more for blacks than the former “black” President, so…

Dems engineer a race-riot.

Vote these idiot Democrats out in November. They need to re-invent their party and stop killing black folks. Blaming it on other by corrupt media is no longer hiding their systemic black exploitation.

The vast majority of elected Democrats have no real life experience or expertise. The corona-virus and riots are a bright spotlight we’ve needed to make these racist roaches scatter like the scum they are.

“The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man….The white liberal aren’t white people who are for independence, who are moral and ethical in their thinking. They are just a faction of white people that are jockeying for power. The same as the white conservative is a faction of white people that are jockeying for power. They are fighting each other for power and prestige, and the one that is the football in the game is the Negro, 20 million black people. A political football, a political pawn, an economic football, and economic pawn. A social football, a social pawn. The liberal elements of whites are those who have perfected the art of selling themselves to the Negro as a friend of the Negro. Getting sympathy of the Negro, getting the allegiance of the Negro, and getting the mind of the Negro. Then the Negro sides with the white liberal, and the white liberal use the Negro against the white conservative. So that anything that the Negro does is never for his own good, never for his own advancement, never for his own progress, he’s only a pawn in the hands of the white liberal. The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros, and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked, or deceived by the white liberal then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man. The only way that our problem will be solved is when the black man wakes up, clean himself up, stand on his own feet and stop begging the white man, and take immediate steps to do for ourselves the things that we have been waiting on the white man to do for us. Once we do for self then we will be able to solve our own problems’

–Malcolm X

@Nathan Blue, #80:

An “autonomous zone” is nothing more than a temporary buffer zone separating the people from the enforcement instrument of official authority. For the moment, we’re seeing no tear gas, no pepper spray, no rubber bullets, no looting, no fires set, no serious injuries. Both sides may learn something in the process. So why would the video give rise to an impulse to exterminate somebody? Is there some perceived threat in a reduction of tensions? Is there a threat in people stepping back from direct confrontation to a place where they might get a clearer look at the problem?

@Nathan Blue, #82:

You can’t be serious.

I am completely serious. The question was completely serious.

There are no sides in this. There are law-abiding citizens and law enforcement, and there are bad guys.

There are two sides to this issue. One side is prepared to accept that any citizen killed by an authority figure was either a a bad guy or part of the cost of keeping them safer, while the other side is not. The other side recognizes that accepting this often makes them less safe.

We live in a constitutional republic, not a collection of warlords who act like monkeys.

Correct. No one is supposed to be above the law, or without the protection of the law. That includes authority figures, all the way to the top.

@Greg:

There are not two sides to this issue. Police misconduct has happened and will continue to happen, because people are not perfect. Floyd’s death was politically advantageous for Left-wing extreme ideologies, as there is no outrage or riots about a racially-motivated black man beating white seniors. That case was blatantly racist, while the Floyd killing was propagandized to be without actual evidence.

That includes authority figures, all the way to the top.

Absolutely, and that cop was arrested. “Subject to justice”, however, is not subjective or mood-based. We have laws and a legal system.

That cops can do bad things doesn’t give you or anyone the right to supplant the existing governement.

There ARE NOT two sides to this issue. There are only normal people and the left-wing politically indoctrinated.

One side is prepared to accept that any citizen killed by an authority figure was either a a bad guy or part of the cost of keeping them safer,

Complete conjecture and nonsense. Floyd’s death has now been paid for with many more times that in the blood of other blacks. For you not to address that means you concede these riots are not about justice, it’s about white people like you using blacks for your own power…by blaming other whites for the problems of the world.

What you won’t face is this simple fact: the best way to not get accidentally killed by a cop is to not commit a crime.

People have to own their own lives and decisions. There is no other way.

The real issue is that Trump demonstrably has made black lives better, and that is the greatest threat the Democrats…who’s bread and butter is making false promises to get black votes. Now you have a non-Left president actually doing something for them. It’s making the Dem party obsolete and hence the panic.

@Greg:

It’s a matter for state and local authorities.

Until it’s politically advantageous for you propagandists to blame this on Trump…then SUDDENLY it will be a matter for Federal Authorities.

The facts remain that the worst hit parts of country in the way of riots, systemic crime, and systemic corruption are all Democrat controlled.

The Dems are desperate to obscure this by having three funerals for yet another exploited dead black man.

@Michael: Hahahaha…

Yes, all of the democratic party is now trying to backpedal on this just like you.

The point of all of this is to abolish the police…and Dems got caught pandering before they realized what they were saying.

@Greg:

Both sides may learn something in the process.

The lesson, which Democrats taught us, is surrender to terrorists and give them what they want and you lose what you gave them. The lesson is Democrats are cowards.

It’s a matter for state and local authorities.

The state and local government is worthless, cowardly and anarchist. They have totally failed the citizens.

@Michael: So, you’ll use the Democrat political definition of “defund”, which is, “Yeah, those goddamn police need to be fired and replaced with kind, gentle, loving social workers. Vote for us.” In fact, THEY define it as, “You think we’re THAT stupid? Vote for us.”

What do you think the BLM/ANTIFA occupation thinks it means?

@Greg: Have you knelt to your new Overlords and decried your racism yet?

@Deplorable Me:

So, you’ll use the Democrat political definition of “defund”, which is, “Yeah, those goddamn police need to be fired and replaced with kind, gentle, loving social workers. Vote for us.”

Some of the people I’ve read are saying, “Take social work functions off the plates of the police and move some of the money over to actual social workers so the police can focus on apprehending criminals.”

As I’ve mentioned, however, there are nearly as many definitions of “defund” as there are people discussing the idea, so there isn’t really a definition that all Democrats agree with.

What do you think the BLM/ANTIFA occupation thinks it means?

Again, BLM is not a monolithic group. I imagine there’s a range of opinion. I’d guess that a lot of the people who share the anti-fascist mindset would have a definition of “defund” that is toward the more extreme end of things.

The phrase “defund the police” sprang up recently, in the middle of nationwide protests. It’s silly to think that you have a handle on what it means for everyone who uses the phrase.

@Greg:

The insurgency will happen at the ballot boxes in November.

Indeed, and that’s when the long-overdue cleaning house of Democrat rule will finally commence.

That’s how we overthrow unpopular governments in America.

That’s how we “corrected” the unpopular presidency of Barack Obama, for sure.

But please, it’s just normal business in a civil constitutional republic. No “overthrowing”, just people ruling themselves.

Sometimes your candidate wins, sometimes they don’t. You deal with and don’t stage childish coup attempts because you’re so blinded by your own cult-indoctrination.

That how it works. Challenge that at your own peril, greg.

@Nathan Blue, #97:

I don’t think they’re going to like what happens that vast majority of the electorate who has remained silent finally starts to speak up… And to take action.

If the vast majority truly supported the policies and attitudes of Donald Trump, republicans wouldn’t have to be working every conceivable angle in an effort to suppress the Democratic vote in November. They wouldn’t be seeing Trump’s average job approval rating now standing at minus 13, and wondering about the election implications for those who have enabled him, and continue to do so.

The astonishing thing is that he just keeps doubling down on the words and behaviors that are the cause of it. Apparently no one can get through to him—a predictable result of having fired anyone who has told him what he needed to hear, but didn’t want to.