Best and worst takeaways from yesterday’s Alice in Wonderland hearings



Yesterday’s hearings were a complete waste of time, but even so there were highlights and lots of low lights. Some left the mouth agape at the pure stupidity. So here we go.

Best opening of the day- Devin Nunes

The GOP stood fast to four facts that could not be ignored.

Rep. Mike Quigley proved himself to be a complete ass:

I heard Ambassador Bill Taylor say something that should have ended the hearings on the spot

Jim Jordan hammered this one home

Even CNN acknowledged that “that’s a problem”

I always enjoy John Ratcliffe:

The most disingenuous statement came from Adam Schiff, who is already on record as lying about his “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella:

What got scant attention is how much Donald Trump has helped Ukraine

One notable and little-reported conclusion emerging from the House Democratic impeachment proceedings is a consensus among some foreign policy professionals that President Trump’s Ukraine policy has been an improvement over President Barack Obama’s.

Ukraine was an occasionally hot issue in the 2016 campaign for all the wrong reasons. At the Republican convention, a false headline in the Washington Post, “Trump campaign guts GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine,” gave birth to a false narrative that candidate Trump, desperate to appease Vladimir Putin, would undermine U.S. support for Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression.

Then Trump became president, and his administration enacted a new policy that not only continued a broad range of assistance to Ukraine but also expanded that aid to include the provision of Javelin anti-tank missiles — the so-called “lethal aid” that the Obama administration had declined to provide.

The Trump aid program has significantly helped Ukraine defend itself against Russia, according to three career foreign policy officials whose impeachment investigation testimony has been released in recent days: William Taylor, the highest-ranking American diplomat in Ukraine; Kurt Volker, the former U.S. special envoy for Ukraine; and Marie Yovanovitch, the former ambassador to Ukraine who was recalled by Trump in May.

Start with Taylor. Questioned by Republican lawyer Steve Castor, Taylor called Trump administration policy a “substantial improvement” over what came before.

“Once you joined the administration in Kiev, were you happy with the package of aid?” asked Castor.

“I was happy that we were providing aid,” Taylor said. “It could always be more. But I was glad if it was coming. I would’ve been very unhappy if it didn’t come.”

“But the Trump administration had a package of aid to the Ukraine?”


“Including lethal defensive weapons?”


“Financial assistance?”

“I was very happy about that.”

“And was that an improvement [over] years prior?”

“It was.”

“Was it a substantial improvement?”

“It was a substantial improvement, in that this administration provided Javelin anti-tank weapons,” Taylor explained. The shoulder-fired missiles, he said, “successfully deter Russians from trying to grab more territory.”

“They were also a very strong political message that said that Americans were willing to provide more than blankets,” Taylor continued. “I mean, that was the previous. And these weapons are serious weapons. They kill Russian tanks. So these were serious weapons. It was a demonstration that we support Ukraine.”

These are the Alice in Wonderland hearings:  “Sentence first, verdict afterwards.” The twit known as AOC can’t keep her mouth shut. She made very clear that these events are purely political in nature and are happening only to prevent Donald Trump’s reelection:

I doubt Trump will be impeached. This is an effort to cause him death by innuendo. If Trump is impeached, Adam Schiff can expect to be called, along with Ciaramella. They would be deposed separately and then have to testify before the Senate and explain their collusion.

That’s more than even Schiff’s ego can handle.

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Democrat Rep. Mike Quigley (IL) on evidence: “Hearsay can be much better evidence than direct … and it’s certainly valid in this instance”

Only to Democrats and only because that is all they have.

Why didn’t you include Nunes, sitting right next to Schiff, recalling how Schiff was so anxious for dirt on Trump that he got scammed trying to get naked pictures of Trump from a Russian radio station? The look of sad disappoint on Schiff’s face, sad that he didn’t have those pictures for his spank-fort, was priceless.

Thus far the Republicans have done a great job exposing the lies of the Democrats and the worthlessness of their “evidence”.

The entire hearing was a cluster f**k for the Democrats considering Kent and Taylor’s testimonies. Neither had ever talked to the President, nor have even ever met the President. Basically, it was two career diplomats who were butt hurt because they had not been included in top level discussions or the President’s July 25th call. These are two guys who think that, in spite of the Constitution, should have the final say on foreign relations. Now for some of my take-aways:

1) Schitt-for-brains mentioned more than once that hundreds of Ukrainians had been killed. Of course, he seems more concerned over Ukrainian citizens that U.S. citizens who are killed, by the hundreds, every year by the illegals who are flooding across our own border to the south. Why isn’t he holding hearings on those killings.

2) Kent testified that corruption is, and has been, a constant problem in Ukraine and that aid money had disappeared (stolen) and the U.S. spent tens of millions of $$ on trying to get to the root of that theft. He also testified that he, personally, had questioned Hunter Biden’s involvement with Burisma to the office of the Vice President in 2015 but nothing ever came of it. He testified that there were conditions tied to ALL aid to Ukraine due to Ukrainian corruption. When asked if Ukraine received aid from the U.S. in 2018, he said “yes.” 2019? “Yes.”

3) Taylor testified that he had THREE meetings with the President of Ukraine AFTER the July 25 phone call and that in none of those meetings was the hold on Ukrainian aid ever discussed or even brought up. He complained about the “informal channels” that had discussions with Ukraine. IOW, he was butt-hurt because he had been shut out and he is sooooo special, don’t you know. He stated that after his initial testimony, held in the star chamber, he learned that one of his staffers (unnamed) told him that Sondland had been on a call with the President and the President was more concerned with the investigation into Ukraine than anything else. WTF? Did Sondland have the President on speaker phone at the dinner table? This statement defies credulity. We are to believe that Sondland can be on his phone at the dinner table and the “staffer” could hear what the person on the other end is saying. Again, all second, third and fourth hearsay.

The testimony equating the Ukrainians to the Minutemen and the U.S. being the French rushing into their rescue is laughable. And who cares if Tayler graduated from West Point (fifth in his class) and won a medal with “V” for valor in Vietnam? Some of this testimony sounded like it was being read from a report from Who cares? And now we learn that Schitt-for-brains who did not meet with the whistleblower but then did but now doesn’t even know the whistleblower’s name. What a crock of nasty green bile.

This was pure Cold War testimony. Never mind that Russia, Russia, Russia!!! has the economy of Italy and one-tenth our military. Never mind that 74 years later the U.S. is paying full freight to protect and defend a European nation while other European nations sit on their hands. The Democrats are still locked into the mindset that Russia, not Iran, not North Korea, not China, is the greatest threat to the U.S.

No first hand information. All he said, she said b/s.

A blogger, who is a former Diplomat, summed it up pretty nicely:

“Let me give you the one take-away y’all need, and remember this comes from a former denizen of the Foggy Bottom Swamp, one who used to swim and crawl with all them swamp creatures.

What you saw were a couple of career dips–neither of whom I know personally–whining a familiar whine that one can hear echoing in the halls of Foggy Bottom and just about anywhere else where “PROFESSIONAL” civil servants congregate. What is it? Simple: THEY are not paying attention to us!

You saw Ambassador Taylor and Deputy Assistant Secretary Kent all in a knot because the President had an “irregular” channel he used to conduct foreign policy in Ukraine. Wow! I didn’t realize that we had elected Taylor and Kent!”

There you have it. Nothing we learned yesterday constitutes a reason for impeachment. In fact, we learned that aid to Ukraine has improved under Trump (providing actually hard aid instead of blankets and MREs). We learned that neither witness had first hand information, nothing but hearsay. We learned that Hunter Biden was an issue with the State Department in 2015, if for no other reason than appearances. We learned that the witnesses had impressive ancestors. Blah, blah, blah.

This is a joke and a farce. Instead of holding hearings on how to protect American citizens from a hostile force, we are being told that Russia, Russia, Russia!!! is the ultimate threat to our national security, Iran, NoKo and China be damned. And for those of us who watched the entire hearing, we learned that Schitt-for-brains will do anything, everything he can to prevent the person who started this whole mess after Robert Mueller destroyed the hopes of Democrats, the whistleblower, from being questioned.

Oh, and we learned from Nancy Pelosi’s presser this morning that if the President is innocent of charges, not yet brought, he should provide them. Now, in America, you are guilty until you prove your innocence.

@retire05: Kent and Taylor were merely called to say whatever they could. All they could say is they heard things. They don’t know anything specific, nor do they know anyone that does, but they merely recounted what they have heard. It’s not their fault, really, it’s merely the Democrats grasping at straws and exposing their desperation. All the Democrats are pretending to believe gossip is evidence and they aren’t ever doing a very good job at that.

We are to believe that Sondland can be on his phone at the dinner table and the “staffer” could hear what the person on the other end is saying. Again, all second, third and fourth hearsay.

Maybe that’s why these Democrats put such high stock in their “hearsay”. They have people that can hear through walls, across oceans and into other continents.

HAHAHA first Kelley Ann Conway is finally going to dump her fat pig husband George, AND it looks like Eve Schiff is divorcing her POS pathological liar hubby Adam Schiff as well! Two women who finally got fed up with their Deep State nazi husbands!

@retire05: Was it not reported that when the Republicans “visited” the Capitol basement, Schiffty absconded with the WB?

@Daniel Garza: A group of Republican lawmakers stormed a closed-door hearing, prompting Democratic leaders to halt the proceedings. Laura Cooper, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia, was scheduled to testify to the House Intelligence Committee as part of the ongoing impeachment inquiry in President Donald Trump.
She was the winess he left the star chambers with. The hearing eventually resumed, following a five-hour delay.
So paranoid he had the room swept for bugs lol.

@Daniel Garza:

No, Schiff cut and run with a U.S. defense official named Laura K. Cooper who has been with the Department of Defense for almost 20 years. Another tax payer funded career government worker.

The whole thing looked like the Dems were on trial, not Trump.

Trump wins the popular vote and EC in 2020, Dems lose the House.

What the Reps and everyone else won’t just say is that this is the response to being outed for corruption, as indicated by the Criminal investigation underway.

Even the fabricated polls can’t hide the general feel that the Democrats are completely insane, and Trump is one of the best POTUS of all time.

Just going off the empirical data.

@kitt: thanks for clarifying.