How Barack Obama provided the technology and the funding for the drone attack on the Saudi oilfields

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Recently, Saudi oilfields were struck by drones and set ablaze. The disruption of the oil supply is set to have an economic impact:

LONDON, Sept 15 (Reuters) – The oil market will rally by $5-10 per barrel when it opens on Monday and may spike to as high as $100 per barrel if Saudi Arabia fails to quickly resume oil supply lost after attacks over the weekend, traders and analysts said.

Attacks on two plants at the heart of the kingdom’s oil industry on Saturday knocked out more than half of Saudi crude output, or 5% of global supply.

Industry sources have said it may take weeks to bring production fully online.

Below are quotes from market participants, traders and analysts.

Although Iran accused the Yamani Hoiulthi rebels, all signs point to Iran as the perpetrator

First, the technical skill required to accurately hit these targets is significantly beyond the proven capability of the Houthis. And the Saudis — with advanced U.S. support — have a large number of advanced radar and ballistic missile tracking capabilities focused on missiles launched from Yemen. They would have detected at least some of these weapons in flight. But as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo noted on Sunday, there is “no evidence” of a Yemeni launch.

Second, the U.S. and Saudi governments both confidently assess Iranian involvement. A top Saudi official on Monday noted that “all indications are that weapons used in both attacks came from Iran.” He added that the Saudis were now investigating “from where they were fired.” The United States has also released satellite photos of the damage. Even though the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency’s corollary analytical assessment hasn’t been released, the satellite photos are clearly compelling. One image from the Abqaiq facility, for example, shows impact strikes at the same specific point on four different silos. That exceptional precision indicates either a ground attack at the site, laser-guided strikes, or the use of drones. The two first options appear to have been ruled out and the Houthis do not have this advanced drone capability. Iran, however, does.

How did Iran get this technology?

From Barack Obama, who donated the technology and then financed the reproduction.

Back in 2011, Iran captured a US RQ 170 drone.



Iran is pushing the propaganda advantage after showing it captured an intact US stealth drone on a spying mission 140 miles inside Iran.

Hours after Iran state TV displayed the cream-colored American bat-wing RQ-170 “Sentinel” drone – its undercarriage hidden by banners of a US flag, with stars replaced by skulls and marked with anti-US slogans – Iranian officials said the spy craft was proof of enduring US hostility toward Iran.

“Iran will target all US military bases around the world,” in case of further violations, warned conservative lawmaker Mohammad Kossari today. Iran’s response would be “terrifying.”

US officials confirmed with “high confidence” that the drone displayed by Iran is almost certainly the one reported lost last by US forces in Afghanistan last week. It was on an intelligence mission to hunt evidence in Iran of nuclear weapons work.

For some reason Obama never chose not to destroy the drone:

Former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney criticized Obama’s decisions on the drone, saying that, after the aircraft went down, the president should have ordered an air strike within Iran: “The right response to that would have been to go in immediately after it had gone down and destroy it. You can do that from the air … and, in effect, make it impossible for them to benefit from having captured that drone.” Instead, “he asked nicely for them to return it, and they aren’t going to”.[30]

He “politely” asked for it back, and Iran laughed at him. Now they had the technology in hand thanks to Obama.

They reverse engineered the drone, smuggling drone part into Iran:

For years, Iran has been successful in smuggling drone parts in spite of international sanctions, and now its smuggling efforts have moved into counter-drone markets. These markets, inclusive of North America, Europe, the Asia-Pacific and Latin America, are expected to reach a value of USD 2.93 billion by 2025. Iran’s neighboring states are also looking to acquire counter-drone capabilities. Turkey has at least three known products on the market, and the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia are looking to step in. Due to their geographical proximity to Iran, these countries unwantedly risk operating as transhipment hubs and staging grounds for Iranian front companies and smuggling networks seeking to get their hands-on Western counter-drone technology.

This takes real money. Where would Iran get this kind of money?

From Barack Obama.

In early 2016 Obama sent $1.7 billion in cash to Iran and in between at least $29 billion and perhaps up to over $100 billion were freed up.  Some of it has been traced directly to funding terrorism.

In 2018, Israel captured one of the drones and declared it a copy of the RQ 170:

TEL AVIV, Israel — A senior Israeli Air Force officer told reporters Monday that the Iranian drone it intercepted over the weekend was a “copy” of a stealthy U.S.-built RQ-170 Sentinel downed by Iranian forces over Iranian territory in 2011.

“It’s a copy of a similar system that fell in Iran,” Brig. Gen. Tomer Bar, chief of staff of the Israeli Air Force, said of the drone in Israel’s possession, which he identified as Shahed 171.

“They more or less duplicated it … but I won’t grade them,” said Bar, referring to Iran’s reverse engineering capabilities.

Iran released a video of the Shahed 171 in flight back in 2014. Two years later, Iran showed another knockoff based on the Lockheed Martin Sentinel, an armed version known as the Saeqeh, according to Tal Inbar, director of the UAV and space program at Israel’s Fisher Brothers Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies.

And it was revealed that one variant was armed:

“There are two copies that Iran made out of the RQ-170. One is Shahed 171, and this is supposed to be jet powered and for reconnaissance missions. Then there is the other variant of this vehicle — similar in design to RQ-170, with a piston engine and a propeller — named Saeqeh. This variant was shown in 2016 armed with four laser-guided munitions,” Inbar told Defense News.

Iran now has armed drone capabilities and money to spare thanks to Barack Obama. Obama’s galactic blunder puts US forces and Israel under even greater jeopardy in the Middle East.

And Iran has just seized another tanker.

 

 

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Leading with your head up your behind. Obama made the world much more dangerous.

While Trump walks upon water, even afflicted with bone spurs. Probably because only his twinkling bare toes deign to touch the surface…

Oooo…. pointing out miserable facts about his Worship seems to have struck a nerve with Greg.

First, the technical skill required to accurately hit these targets is significantly beyond the proven capability of the Houthis.

What? They can’t enter two GPS coordinate numbers that they can easily find in about 60 seconds on a Google satellite map?

That’s the only “technical skill” required. Zoom out from the linked image and get some perspective. We’re 19 years into the 21st century. You could probably pick your targets and program your drone using a smartphone. You can do that with a tiny GoPro-carrying drone you can buy on Amazon.

@Deplorable Me: Not only that but Greg is a moron too. You know Greg, you might want to pay heed to the old saying that it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth, or in this case post, and remove all doubt.

@James Brown, #5:

Did you see that linked Google satellite map, Jamie Boy? Put your mouse arrow on the petroleum tank on the right side, and click the left mouse button. The two numbers that pop up—25.929590 and 49.684640, it you click dead center where the pipe comes out the top—are the map coordinates you want to program into your flying bomb’s guidance system. It will then fly your drone hundreds and hundreds of miles directly to the spot you clicked on, correcting its course moment to moment using GPS satellites. (No service contract required. All you need is a GPS receiver.) BOOM! It’s so simple that a trained Houthi soldier could do it. Possibly even a Trump cultist. It doesn’t actually take an Iranian rocket scientist.

Obama has wanted to aid the end of Israel as we know it for a long time now.
Note how old this is:

The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood. He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing.

As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, “Hey, I’m sorry I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I’m hoping when things calm down I can be more up front.” He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, “Keep up the good work!”

– Ali Abunimah is the author of One Country: A Bold Proposal to End the Israeli-Palestinian Impasse (The bold proposal was the one advanced by the Arabs in 1936 and 1947. In other words, the proposal from him is the end of Israel as a majority Jewish state.)

It’s ironic that the Iranians didn’t use their Obama, ill-gotten gains to destroy Israel but to partially destroy Obama’s love interest, as he showed when he bowed so deeply to the Saudi rulers.comment image
I wonder if Obama is unhappy with Iran over this today?

@Greg:

It will then fly your drone hundreds and hundreds of miles directly to the spot you clicked on, correcting its course moment to moment using GPS satellites.

Sure… provided you’ve built that technology into the drone and can access the satellite signal. Garmin won’t get you that kind of precision.

@Deplorable Me, #8:

Sure… provided you’ve built that technology into the drone and can access the satellite signal. Garmin won’t get you that kind of precision.

According to the U.S. government, as of May 11, 2016 the global average user range error for civilian GPS was less than or equal to 2.3 feet 95% of the time—way more than sufficient to find the precisely known location of a very large stationary target like an oil tank.

Accurate GPS guidance computers are readily available and relatively cheap, because they’re mass produced for drones that are widely available on the consumer market. You can buy a GPS guided autopilot fight module for a bit over $200. Once it’s out of radio control range, it flies on its own. Sophisticated weapons can be built with off-the-shelf parts.

@Deplorable Me: US military technology will get that precision off military satellites. China has stolen much of the technology and has a comfortable relationship with Iran.

@Greg: Talk about an “cultist”. You’ll do anything to maintain your backward world-view and ignorance of science and technology. Always glad there is a pre-made opinion piece with “facts” to support you bias.

@Nathan Blue, #11:

Nobody ever has much to say about the linked sources I base my opinions on. Not one link I’ve posted on this thread is to an “opinion piece”. They all provide factual information that backs up the points I’m making.

Which one of them doesn’t? Which one is an “opinion piece”? Care to point it out?

@Nathan Blue: @Nathan Blue: I love that Greg thinks there is still a Radio Shack somewhere in Yemen that terrorists can purchase parts to build a kamikaze drone out of.

@kitt, #13:

September 16, 2019 – Iran’s strategic use of drones and missiles rattles Middle East rivals

According to a U.N. expert panel on Yemen, Houthi fighters have in the past used what are known as “suicide” or “kamikaze” drones, some of which are similar to Iranian models. The Houthis have “retained access to the critical components, such as engines, guidance systems, from abroad that are necessary to assemble and deploy them,” the panel’s report said.

This is one of the coming threats: cheap weaponized drones put together from readily available components. This GPS guided drone can also be controlled with a telemetry link using cell phone towers. Give it a payload of plastic explosives and it becomes a tiny cruise missile. Everything is off the shelf. I have no clue what the answer to such weapons of asymmetrical warfare might be.

Even as Obama was planing to disarm us confiscate our guns open our borders and cripple our National Defense he sold our Top Secrets to terrorists.In some Nations Traitors are shot or hanged in America they join the Democrat Party

@Greg: All these parts cost money, everything can be traced to source and who it was sent to or who paid for them, if it shook out to be financed by Iran you would still need further proof, cause you dont want to believe.
No we should not go to war over oil.

Obama not only provided the information, but he got $15 million for it. Proof? Well, I just THINK it, so it is so. ALL his IRS records need to be pulled and examined by Trump supporters just to see if any suspicions are true. Then the phone numbers and addresses of his children and anyone he knows needs to be publicized.

Because, you know… oversight.

@Deplorable Me: Think isnt enough, even vague things that look like evidence but can easily be debunked..You must FEEL it in your gut. Barry makes me voimit so I only get an empty feeling in my gut, but if you feel it thats enough for me. It was actually 40 million laundered through a book publisher, by the way…

@kitt: He had the most corrupt and scandal-riddled administration in history. If he was investigated half as extensively as Trump has been (illegal spying is not necessary; they are so arrogant and confident in the media and deep state they leave evidence laying around everywhere) the true source of his unlimited millions would be exposed. (see Soros)

He had the most corrupt and scandal-riddled administration in history.

You voted for the man who is at the center of the most corrupt and scandal ridden administration in history.

I’m looking forward to the part of the play where he pardons himself and his closest accomplices of all crimes before finally leaving the White House. Unlike Nixon, he won’t even turn around and wave at the cameras as he departs. He’s more likely to disappear under cover of darkness, taking the White House silverware and a number of chosen mementos with him. He’ll then become as elusive as Howard Hughes.

Corey R Lewandowski@CLewandowski_

Excited about the opportunity to remind the American people today there was no collusion no obstruction. There were lots of angry Democrats who tried to take down a duly elected President. Tune in. #Senate2020.

4:26 AM – 17 Sep 2019

Yep. Tune in and watch me refuse to answer any and all relevant questions, in accordance with the unlawful instructions of He Who Is Above the Law.

@Greg:

You voted for the man who is at the center of the most corrupt and scandal ridden administration in history.

You are totally delusional. NO Trump scandals compared to dozens of Obama’s scandals. Trump has the task of cleaning up after Obama.

Lewandowski has nothing to testify on because all the wrongdoing has been committed by Democrats; Obama, Hillary and those instigating the witch hunts.

There’s a reason why after three years, illegal surveillance, illegal spying and three investigations NO illegal activity has been found committed by Trump or his campaign. Can you guess what that is?

@Deplorable Me, #21:

There’s a reason why after three years, illegal surveillance, illegal spying and three investigations NO illegal activity has been found committed by Trump or his campaign. Can you guess what that is?

Who needs to guess? It’s because a lifelong flimflam man has been:

(1) handed the powers of the U.S. presidency;

(2) told that he cannot be prosecuted for any violation of the law so long as he holds onto them; and

(3) been allowed to use that power and immunity from prosecution to essentially nullify congressional investigative powers and oversight authority, which were the only remaining restraints the first two points left him subject to.

The once great political party he has corrupted beyond recognition fully supports him on the first 2 points and energetically aids and abets him on the 3rd.

Which of these observations is not accurate, and what do they together add up to?

@Deplorable Me:

Our resident propagandist, Greggie Goebbels, said this:

(2) told he cannot be prosecuted for any violation of the law so long as he holds onto them; and

It is clear that Greggie Goebbels forgot the “high crimes and misdemeanors” part of the U.S. Constitution.

(3) been allowed to use that power and immunity from prosecution to essentially nullify congressional investigative powers and oversight authority, which were the only remaining restraints the first two points left him subject to.

Obviously Greggie Goebbels doesn’t have C-Span as there is currently a “Congressional” hearing going on right now. And what does the Democrats have? A paper where Cory Lewindowski wrote down what the President said. That’s it. There’s your “high crimes and misdemeanors” that the Democrat are hanging the next election on.

All this being conducted by Jerry (Jabba the Hut) Nadler who fought like a Trojan against the impeachment process of William Jefferson Clinton. The same Jabba the Hut who had refused to summon Horowitz to testify although the Republicans on the Judiciary Committee have requested Horowitz testify.

Of course, this is not surprising on the part of Greggie Goebbels who recently sang the praises of one of America’s enemies. Makes you wonder if Greggie Goebbels’ employer isn’t Russia or some other U.S. adversary.

It is clear that Greggie Goebbels forgot the It is clear that Greggie Goebbels forgot the “high crimes and misdemeanors” part of the U.S. Constitution. part of the U.S. Constitution.

That quoted phrase specifically refers to Congress’s power to investigate and impeach a president, which Trump has effectively nullified by fully exploiting points 1 and 2.

He has ordered his flunkies to either ignore lawful congressional subpoenas altogether, or to refuse to answer any and and all question that might incriminate him; he has ordered the DoJ to lock down evidence and testimony collected in connection with the Mueller investigation, denying it to congressional committees for review; he has ordered the IRS and Treasury to withhold tax returns they are required by law to provide to designated congressional committees upon request.

Are you incapable of understanding this simple, straightforward situation? You’re not a complete idiot. To my thinking, that means you’re complicit as a supporter of a crime against the United States and it’s Constitution. You’re an enabler. The GOP has become a party of enablers.

@Greg:

That quoted phrase specifically refers to Congress’s power to investigate and impeach a president, which Trump has effectively nullified by fully exploiting points 1 and 2.

Then what was the Jabba the Hut’s committee all about today, Greggie Goebbels? Or do you think that Trump, like his predecessors FDR and Obama can illegally nullify the U.S. Constitution?

You’ve already proven you’re a dimwit about the Constitution.

He has ordered his flunkies to either ignore lawful congressional subpoenas altogether,

Like Obama did and when Obama did it you were mute on his violations of the law?

or to refuse to answer any and and all question that might incriminate him;

1.4 million documents, hours of testimony by those Trump had a right to refuse to allow to testify, etc. That’s refusing to answer questions? Let’s just face it, Greggie Goebbels, all you know how to do is repeat the lies you get from your liberal news media and websites.

he has ordered the DoJ to lock down evidence and testimony collected in connection with the Mueller investigation, denying it to congressional committees for review;

Show me the order. SHOW IT.

he has ordered the IRS and Treasury to withhold tax returns they are required by law to provide to designated congressional committees upon request.

Well, Shiff-for-brains did say that he had PROOF that Trump was guilty of “collusion” so there is that. When is Shiff-for-brains going to produce that proof?

Are you incapable of understanding this simple, straightforward situation?

Oh, I am totally capable of understanding the simple, straightforward situation. A deep state team, at the highest levels of our government, used opposition research, paid for by another presidential candidate and the DNC and laundered through a crooked law firm, against a presidential candidate as an “insurance policy” in trying to throw an election.

You’re not a complete idiot.

But you are.

To my thinking, that means you’re complicit as a supporter of a crime against the United States and it’s Constitution.

How would you know? You have a painfully small understanding of that founding document.

You’re an enabler. The GOP has become a party of enablers.

And the Democrats? While there is business they were elected to do for the American people, all they can think about is impeachment of a duly elected president. And why?

Meet Lindsey Boylan, Jerry Nadler’s opponent in the 2020 New York Democrat primary. Boylan is being funded by the Justice Democrats (of AOC fame, rather infamy), a super secret spooky PAC. Lindsey Boylan is running on impeaching Trump.

Though you weren’t going to respond to me again, Greggie Goebbels. Well, that didn’t last long since you have this psychotic need to pump your left wing propaganda.

@Greg: 1) WON an election.

2) NO criminal acts, high crimes or misdemeanors have been identified. NONE.

3) Mueller clearly stated Trump had not “curtailed, stopped or hindered” his investigation and Democrats have done nothing BUT investigate without ANY intent of “oversight” of anything. All they are doing is HOPING to find ANYTHING they can use or, at worst, simply stain the administration with investigation.

Yes, the Democrats are totally corrupted, but that’s what socialism does. They are craving a police state so they can create the totalitarian regime they dream of.

As is evidenced by that absolute, total, complete lack of a single solitary credible charge based on any evidence, the accumulated total of all your whiny, sore lower, crybaby accusations are completely false and baseless. Collusion, conspiracy, obstruction, Kavanaugh…. no matter what you invent and wish was true, Trump is President, will remain President and will win a second term as President, all for the greater good of the country and world.

@retire05:

1.4 million documents, hours of testimony by those Trump had a right to refuse to allow to testify, etc. That’s refusing to answer questions?

Like Mueller did, they demand the answers that support their anti-American agenda. Being unwilling to lie for them, like General Mueller, Papodopolis and Manafort refused to do, is what the left considers “obstruction”… obstruction of their police state agenda.

Show me the order. SHOW IT.

Grand Jury evidence cannot be shared, especially with crybabies as irresponsible with sensitive information as Democrats. That’s the LAW, but Democrats think their beloved police state is already in place and they can do whatever they wish with justice.

Justice Democrats is funded by Soros. Democrats dance to the Soros tune. They don’t care about the destruction of this country.

@retire05, #25:

Show me the order. SHOW IT.

Do you think all of Trump’s assorted appointees and flunkies are acting entirely on their own, breaking laws and defying subpoenas to produce evidence or testify without coordinating instructions from above? That a comprehensive shutting down of every avenue to testimony and evidence on every front, legal or otherwise, has somehow taken form by coincidence? Because to think that, a person would have to be flat out stupid. And there’s no need for anyone to produce a written certificate of stupidity to prove that, either. What people say and do is more than sufficient to make the judgement.

Trump has been riding a wave of anger, resentment, deceit, and stupidity. Either that wave is going to break at some point, or a majority of voters are going to knock him off his surfboard at the ballot box. It’s all just too damn obvious to continue. Either Trump goes, or America is screwed.

@Greg: Poor thing, what seems obvious to you is really simply opinion. If there was anything it would have been put in clear language in the report. Yes the Mueller report that seems Mueller never read, just a dotering old hound that lost his ability to hunt, the report you said that you would accept(we knew better)But this horse is dead isnt it?
That Barry allowed the capture of military drone technology for Iran to back engineer, provided funding for wide spread terrorism, thats the subject you wish to avoid isnt it?
Seems the Saudis already have restored 50 % of what your ME sweethearts tried to knock out. They need to stick to tankers in international waters.
Keep thinking one of your freaks can knock off Trump just like Hillary had an over 90% chance of sitting in the oval office.

@Greg: So, you have no evidence of any such order which you cite (as in LIE). Maybe there is a “mountain” of them?

With regard to beating dead horses, neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama is going to be the alternative to Donald Trump in 2020.

@Greg: Correct Barry and Stinky are not in the running, so accept the results of the election and stop trying to punish a guy for winning.
Barry was heavily involved in this attempt to alter the results of the last election, and attempted coup. Hillary will need to be re-investigated for espionage, destruction and retention of government documents, this time by investigators that will not decide guilt or innocence prior to the beginning.
Huma should already be behind bars for what was on her Pervy hubbys laptop.

@Deplorable Me:

Criminal bosses generally don’t put their illegal orders in writing, but you can often figure out what instructions were given when the people they were given to refuse to answer questions about it under oath. Like today, with Lewandowski. Trump isn’t claiming executive privilege to withhold specific sensitive information in the nation’s best interest. He’s claiming it with regard to anything and everything, to cover his own butt.

He has both obstructed justice and obstructed lawful congressional investigations.

@Greg: With extensive investigations they have found no crimes, so how can justice be obstructed when it was only a witch hunt to begin with? The banana republic justice you crave will not prevail in this Constitutional Republic. Those that began an illegal investigation will be exposed and Justice willing, get put behind bars if for no other reason so this never happens in this country to anyone wishing to hold public office.

@Greg:

Do you think all of Trump’s assorted appointees and flunkies are acting entirely on their own,

I know, don’t think, that all appointees of every president, save judicial appointees, answer directly to the President and act on instructions from their boss, the President. The AG would be the exception, save when Eric Holder was AG and admitted, under oath, that he was Obama’s “wing man.”

That a comprehensive shutting down of every avenue to testimony and evidence on every front, legal or otherwise, has somehow taken form by coincidence?

So the president shut down the testimony of Mueller, McCahn and today, Cory Lewandowski? You are freaking delusional.

And there’s no need for anyone to produce a written certificate of stupidity to prove that, either.

IOW, you’ve got zip.

Trump has been dealing with a wave of anger, resentment, deceit, and stupidity from both the Democrats and the Democrat lame stream media.

Fixed it for you.

Either that wave is going to break at some point, or a majority of voters are going to knock him off his surfboard at the ballot box.

Yeah, the Democrats have a winning strategy, don’t they? Call all Trump supporters “white supremacists”, tell voters that you are going to take away their Second Amendment rights, raise their taxes, take away their employer provided health care insurance, and control all aspects of their everyday lives. If you think that is a winning platform, you are beyond delusional.

America is screwed.

American was screwed on one night in November 2008. Eight years later, the American people decided they had had enough and turned down the most corrupt candidate in American history, Hillary Clinton. And for two years, we have had the Democrats stomping their feet like a two year old because they didn’t get their way. That doesn’t play well with adults, who vote.

With regard to beating dead horses, neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama is going to be the alternative to Donald Trump in 2020.

And not one of the clowns the DNC is running is going to resonate with anyone but the under 35 crowd that has been indoctrinated by our Socialist education system. And they are the least likely to actually vote.

Greggie Goebbels, I wish you would seek mental health help. You are the angriest person to ever appear here at FA, not helped by the fact you are a total idiot. You are being used by your Socialist handlers and perhaps the knowledge of that is what makes you so angry. I believe the term “useful idiot” is applicable to you in spades.

Cory Lewandowski, today, under oath before Congress, making one of the few honest statements anyone connected with the Trump administration has ever made . This 1 minute and 10 seconds clip pretty much tells an intelligent person everything they need to know about Trump’s pack of lying weasels.

@retire05, #34:

Greggie Goebbels, I wish you would seek mental health help.

I’m not the one who is so far out of touch with reality that I don’t understand the implications of what Lewandowski just publicly stated. Shall I paraphrase what he just said in four single-syllable words that even a 4-year-old child could understand? Here’s what he said: “WE LIE TO YOU.”

@Greg: There is not statute of limitations on their crimes and the damage they’ve done to this country.

Criminal bosses generally don’t put their illegal orders in writing

Which is exactly what we saw during the Obama regime. We have NOT, however, seen anything in the Trump administration like the scandalous Obama regime.

He has both obstructed justice and obstructed lawful congressional investigations.

Not at all, not even once. Again, nothing like Fast and Furious, IRS scandal, Obamacare fraud, Benghazi, Iran, green energy fraud, Hillary’s emails, illegal spying and surveillance… damn, the list just keeps going. Those you worship are real scumbags.

Lewandowski mopped the floor with idiot Democrats looking for nothing more than soundbites and attempts to make more false allegations. He proved the Democrats to be utter idiots.

@kitt: Justice was obstructed by the investigations of Trump while Hillary’s crimes were ignored and swept under the rug.

@retire05:

Greggie Goebbels, I wish you would seek mental health help. You are the angriest person to ever appear here at FA,

The anger is driven by desperation. Liberalism failed. The push for socialism had its legs cut out from under it when the criminal Hillary was handed her righteous defeat. They see Trump simply doing what he promised to do and succeeding wildly and it scares the living shit out of them. What Obama could have achieved by bringing the economy back from a deep recession (but CHOSE to fail to do) Trump has accomplished and unless the Democrats can destroy Trump with false accusations and lying about his achievements, they will be vaporized.

Want to hear it again?

Cory Lewandowski, today, under oath before Congress, making one of the few honest statements anyone connected with the Trump administration has ever made.

@Greg: So what he told the truth while under oath and did not to media WGAF?
Now Comey just lied all the time. That is per the IG report.
He was also truthful with his answer he has no obligation to the Democrat Media to tell them the truth.

@Deplorable Me:

The anger is driven by desperation.

I think it goes deeper than that with Greggie Goebbels. Clearly, he’s a friendless loner who has no life other than serving as FA’s Socialist propagandist.

@kitt, #38:

So what he told the truth while under oath and did not to media WGAF?

Who? Every American who still believes that our nation’s highest offices should be held by honorable men and women who recognize and try to adhere to fundamental American values and principles, such as honesty.

This is what the Trump administration has done to us. It cannot be allowed to stand.

@Greg: Really seriously He lied to MSLSD they have lied to you for 2 years about the president and Russian collusion. Heavens forbid the liars get lied to. Their remaining watchers love love love to get lied to.

Lewandowski’s lie about never being asked to talk to Jeff Sessions was a deliberate effort to hide the President’s intention to obstruct justice, which is grounds for impeachment.

How many people even closer to Trump have been ordered to conceal what they know from Congress by claiming executive privilege? I lost count a long time ago.

In Lewandowski’s case the executive privilege claim is utterly ludicrous. Lewandowski wasn’t even a member of the White House staff. He was never part of the Trump administration. There’s no basis for claiming executive privilege. He’s simply refusing to answer important questions put to him by Congress.

@Greg:

Who? Every American who still believes that our nation’s highest offices should be held by honorable men and women who recognize and try to adhere to fundamental American values and principles, such as honesty.

That’s why Trump won.

See: Hillary Clinton.

How many people even closer to Trump have been ordered to conceal what they know from Congress by claiming executive privilege? I lost count a long time ago.

That’s blind speculation and just partisan rhetoric. Easily dismissed.

He’s simply refusing to answer important questions put to him by Congress.

“Congress”, talking about Democrat members, aren’t looking for justice. They are looking for partisan tricks to perform a soft coup.

The more they do it, the further away they get from winning a Presidential election in 2024. 2020 is already taken.

@Greg: No one was fired so its a fart in a high wind. You want lying Barry telling everyone he learned about Stinkys server from the media, that was a whopper, he knew all along he was emailing to Clinton.com not a .gov address.
Why were so many in the last admin not using their own names to dodge FOIA? yupper that was it.

No one was fired so its a fart in a high wind.

Obstruction of justices is defined by intention and purposeful effort, which do not have to be successfully completed in order for the crime to exist.

The Mueller report examined 10 distinct instances that could potentially be found to be obstruction of justice. Intention could not be established because Trump refused to answer any written questions that might reveal such an intention.

@Greg: He had the power to call Mueller and say your fired, if there was a true purposeful effort the investigation wold have ended. Just like Barry squashed the IRS and Fast and Furious and Hillarys investigations. That was obstruction, What Trump may have done, simply a thought crime, as that isnt in the books yet you got nil.
Obstruction is a broad crime that may include acts such as perjury, making false statements to officials, witness tampering, jury tampering, destruction of evidence, and many others. Obstruction also applies to overt coercion of court or government officials via the means of threats or actual physical harm, and also applying to deliberate sedition against a court official to undermine the appearance of legitimate authority.
Trump’s attorneys have refused to answer any questions about his time as president-elect or president not about the intention of the probe, collusion.
Not the redefinition the boob tube tells you it is.

@kitt:

Give it up, Kitt. Greggie Goebbels is going to believe what his handlers has told him and his mind is closed to the truth. Let him wallow in his stupidity. He seems to be happy there (if you can even come close to calling Greggie Goebbels happy}

@retire05: Greg isnt good enough for payment or handlers he is a willing victim of brainwashing, every point he makes the last administration did on steroids, but when you point it out his only defense is they are not running for office, his brain cant comprehend they committed real documented crimes that they might have to face punishment over.
Maybe he was just dropped on his head as a child. repeatedly.

@Greg:

Every American who still believes that our nation’s highest offices should be held by honorable men and women who recognize and try to adhere to fundamental American values and principles, such as honesty.

Well, YOU don’t believe that because you voted for Obama and Hillary. So, why do you pretend? We all know the truth.

This is what the Trump administration has done to us. It cannot be allowed to stand.

What Trump is doing is restoring the dignity and integrity to government. The more your whiny crybabies try to prove one of their false accusations and fails, the stronger he becomes because he is shown to be more credible and honest and your Democrats are shown to be weak, petty, dishonest and anti-American.

In Lewandowski’s case the executive privilege claim is utterly ludicrous. Lewandowski wasn’t even a member of the White House staff.

ANY conversation with the President of the United States can be privileged. It depends on the information. So, shove it.

He’s simply refusing to answer important questions put to him by Congress.

Oh. Like, “Are you the bag man or hit man?” Or trying to get him to read previous testimony for a political campaign soundbite? There WERE no important questions, just attempts to assist whatever liar gets the Democrat nomination. That hearing was an embarrassment to anyone that loves this country.

Obstruction of justices is defined by intention and purposeful effort, which do not have to be successfully completed in order for the crime to exist.

And Mueller clearly testified under oath that Trump NEVER obstructed anything. He also CLEARLY testified under oath that NO crimes could be found. Or, did you not watch?

Intention could not be established because Trump refused to answer any written questions that might reveal such an intention.

You are either lying or ignorant because Trump answered Mueller’s written questions.

@Nathan Blue:

That’s blind speculation and just partisan rhetoric. Easily dismissed.

Meanwhile, Greg KNEW beyond any possible doubt that Hillary lied under oath before Congress about having, receiving and sending classified information on her unsecured, secret, private server, yet he could not WAIT to vote for her criminal, lying, corrupt ass. He voted for Obama though he shielded Holder’s gun running, lied about Benghazi and was caught in the lie of the century about Obamacare. THAT’S how he expects our government to be honest and honorable. What he prefers is lying, corrupt liberal scum.

@kitt:

Obstruction is a broad crime that may include acts such as perjury, making false statements to officials, witness tampering, jury tampering, destruction of evidence, and many others.

Wow. Hillary checked every one of THOSE boxes, yet Greg voted for her and is still having a tantrum that she lost. I guess in his world, lying, corruption and putting US national security at dire risk is “honorable”.

And Iran is still in the Useless Nations so are many other terrorists sponsoring nations