Is it Time to Call for Violence Against Leftists?

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“A peaceful coexistence is dropping out of sight” – Robert Ellsworth

First off, to make the obvious point, no I don’t want to see violence from either side. But what I’ve seen over the last few days has surprised even me. And this was after writing a post just a few weeks ago about how Democrats are horrible people who hate America. But what we’ve seen over just the last few days from the Radicals who’ve taken over the Democratic Party is disappointing, and equally disturbing. To quickly recap:

DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen Was Run Out Of A D.C. Restaurant. Leftists On Twitter Respond With Glee, Threats Of Violence

Florida AG Pam Bondi Harassed By Left-Wing Activists At Movie Theater

As if Sarah Huckabee Sanders getting thrown out of a restaurant for being competent at her job, It gets WORSE: Red Hen owner reportedly kicked Sarah Sanders out then FOLLOWED her to new restaurant to protest

A New York University Professor doxxed over 1,500 ICE employees

Maxine Waters calls on her Clone Army to “EXECUTE GENERAL ORDER SIXTY-SIX!”

Even worse, after Mad Maxine’s punctuation to the several days of terror would draw a response from Democrat leaders in office and in the press, you’d be right. But not in a good way. What followed ran from “Sorry that President Trump made us mad!” from Nanci Pelosi, to the Washington Post’s “Trump could seize this to fire up his base!” Nowhere in here are any condemnations – Hell, I’d be happy with just some acknowledgement that harassment and inciting violence is wrong. You won’t get it from the Democratic Party’s leadership in Virginia – when asked about Watters’ comment, there was no response. Bloomberg’s Francis Wilkinson muses about how the Democrats’ behavior is completely justified.

Over at The Federalist, David Harsanyi had a great take on what things would be like like were the roles reversed:

Now, should it even be said that if any conservative had called for mobs to badger Democrats when they’re at the supermarket, the nation would be thrust into a national dialogue about the growing and perilous incivility on the Right. There would be a flood of anxious op-ed pieces and cable news roundtables featuring chin-stroking hypocrites contemplating the future of discourse in America. No one would be spared. Every Republican politician on Earth would be asked to condemn these comments.

Why am I speculating? This is exactly what happened during the peaceful Tea Party protests.

The usually sensible Jim Geraghty at National Review looked at the events with a seemingly sensible but sadly misguided conclusion:

This is a genie that does not go back into the bottle easily. A lot of people in politics remember the examples of their side being attacked and conclude this is how the entirety of the opposition wants to play the game. The rallying cry on the Right on Twitter these days is “you’re going to hate the new rules” — basically conservatives cheerfully announcing they or their brethren will adopt any tactic used by the Left. Turnabout is fair play; what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. (Lord knows I’ve long lamented the glaring double standard and the need for one bipartisan set of rules for public debate.)

The problem is that this cycle of tit-for-tat leads more and more people conclude that the opposition only understands the language of force and that they cannot be negotiated with, persuaded, or even tolerated in a form of coexistence.

We could steer away from this path, if there was a broad, across-the-spectrum denunciation of comments like the one from Waters, reemphasizing that in the United States, we settle our differences through debate and discourse and the ballot box and in the courtroom — not by stirring up an angry crowd and implying (or maybe more than implying) a threat of physical violence against the political opposition. But that’s too much to ask in this polarized — Balkanized? — environment, isn’t it?

For someone with Geraghty’s experience and credentials I’m surprised at how naive his conclusion is (although the entire article is worth reading), where Jazz Shaw nails it over at Hot Air:

When the Tea Party held rallies where they obtained permits and stayed within designated marching routes or gathering areas, the Black Lives Matter movement closed down highways and airports or organized “black brunch” where businesses were closed down. When the right gathers petitions to not have a statue of Lenin in the public square, the left simply goes and tears down symbols they don’t like. And now we’re at the point where government officials must be hounded out of public spaces when they are off the clock?

This isn’t going to end unless there is an actual incentive for it to end. And the media isn’t going to supply that incentive since most of those folks either openly support social warfare or convey signals that they privately do. In the months which have passed since Donald Trump’s inauguration, the accepted rules of engagement have been thrown out the window and if you want that to stop you’re going to have to answer in kind. As I was saying on Twitter this weekend, the day is coming when the Democrats are going to take back the White House and one or both chambers of Congress. It may not be immediately, but it absolutely will happen sooner or later.

Nobody is going to get the message until Democrats and liberals find out that they don’t get a free pass to behave in this fashion and go unanswered.

I think that Shaw has captured the best endgame for Conservatives better than Geraghty did. The only time you’ll hear a Leftist acknowledge that their behavior is wrong is when you hear them say “Both sides need to stop!” Leftists hate having their tactics thrown back in their faces. As things stand they see their policies as successful against an enemy that they despise. Unless they are given a reason to dial back their behavior, they will only continue to build on it.

Violence over political differences is horrible, but I don’t see any way to stop the Democrats before they kill someone. If anyone has any suggestions I’d like to hear them. And this is one of the rare times I’ll ask of anyone posting in the comments to keep them to constructive ideas, and that goes for the folks from both sides.

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The cheating way Hillary grabbed the DNC nomination over frontrunner, Bernie Sanders, seems to have enraged lots of Lefties.
It was one of those Bernie supporters who shot up the Republicans while they played baseball, nearly killing one.
It was one of those who leaked emails to Julian Assange. Those emails hitting the web when they did precipitated Comey going on TV and letting Hillary off the hook.
Many of the most violent Lefties are far to the left of Hillary, of Diane Feinstein, of many traditional Dems.
Meryl Streep is far to the left of Hillary, but still loves/supports her.
Meryl’s cousin, the owner of the Red Hen not only harassed the Sanders family out of one eatery, she followed them to their 2nd choice and hounded them again!

Plus, lets not forget the jury nullification aspect.
Kate Steinle’s killer was not even found guilty of involuntary manslaughter!
The bike lock antifa attacker recently was found not guilty despite eyewitneses and other physical evidence against him!

Violence over political differences is horrible, but I don’t see any way to stop the Democrats before they kill someone. If anyone has any suggestions I’d like to hear them. And this is one of the rare times I’ll ask of anyone posting in the comments to keep them to constructive ideas, and that goes for the folks from both sides.

Preemptive violence, to prevent the other guys from killing someone? Seriously?

You do realize that the vast majority of politically motivated violent attacks in the United States in recent decades have been perpetrated by far right extremists, don’t you? Those on the left generally aren’t the ones prone to building small private arsenals in their spare time.

I see where some Dirty Democrat and introduced a bill to abolish ICE it figures these traitors are putting American Security at risk to court favor with illegal aliens when can we start lynching the donkey these Dirty Rotte Democrats HANG THE JACKASS HIGH

Sanctimonious ignorance is contagious, a staple of mob cohesion. It is far more gratifying to join an uninformed collective united in pious revulsion than submit to the onerous task of sifting through a voluminous deposition and using one’s common sense. After all, that requires honest work and a saving skepticism

Progressive violences not new! It has been ongoing at least since Mario Savio and his thugs/goons started their Freedom Under Clark Kerr at Cal in ’64. If any of the conservatives Savio’s hooligans hospitalized are still alive -they would be near 80 – ask them. The party loved Savio;s violence so much they built many memorials honoring thuggery!

Violence over political differences is horrible, but I don’t see any way to stop the Democrats before they kill someone.

Only by the grace of God is Steve Scalise still alive. Others were shot as well. If that was not a relatively cheap wake up call for Democrats to stop the promotion of violence, I don’t know what more could shock them into reality. Yet, the left continues with its incitement rhetoric, calls for harassment, intimidation and violence.

I emailed my representative to propose censure for Watters. Though we’ve seen Democrats receive contempt of Congress and just brush it off, perhaps censure for each time these fascists call for uprising might slow them down a little.

Yes, a true picture of how the left would react if this tactic was used against them is how the left reacted to the Tea Party rallies. They were orderly, peaceful, respectful and TIDY, yet the left had to characterize them as violent and racist. To make their point, they would plant violent racists WITHIN some of the rallies. The left is dangerous and, yes indeed, widespread retaliatory violence is almost inevitable at this point. Sadly, usually the wrong people are caught in the crossfire when mob mentality takes over. Only the left can stop it.

@Nanny G:

It was one of those who leaked emails to Julian Assange. Those emails hitting the web when they did precipitated Comey going on TV and letting Hillary off the hook.

And Comey killed a deal that would have gotten Assange to reveal who leaked the emails. I guess Comey was just protecting Trump, huh? The left does everything they can to keep the tensions high so, when necessary, they can provoke some of their useful idiots to commit violence.

@Greg:

Preemptive violence, to prevent the other guys from killing someone? Seriously?

WHERE was violence suggested as a solution? Violence is going to be inevitable if the left does not stop it’s promotion of violence. In Texas, a person only has to believe they are in danger to used deadly force. What do you think a woman who has a CHL and is armed is going to think if she is surrounded by a screaming mob? Can you see anything bad possibly happening? Of course, as a leftist, this is probably what you WANT since you can use it against the 2nd Amendment AND promote more leftist violence. Innocent blood makes a great lubricant for the liberal propaganda machine.

You do realize that the vast majority of politically motivated violent attacks in the United States in recent decades have been perpetrated by far right extremists, don’t you?

Do you realize that ALL the politically motivated violence since Trump was a candidate is perpetrated by the left?

Those on the left generally aren’t the ones prone to building small private arsenals in their spare time.

Perhaps that is something you should share with your violence-prone, pussyhat wearing sky screamers.

Typically, Greg does not denounce the violence, he only tries to justify and excuse it.

@MOS #8541: Never has anyone on the left denounced the “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” lie which has incited so much violence against police and communities. They prefer to keep it in case they need it later.

@Brother Bob: They have no clue most have never seen a war or even been in a school yard fist fight. We just want to be left alone, we want our President to be able to do his thing, seems to be working. Walking out on the Globalist 7, genius, Europe cant defend herself.

Those on the left generally aren’t the ones prone to building small private arsenals in their spare time.

You are right Greg you are absolutely right, Add more than a few have semi auto deer rifles and can take down that deer at 300 yards.
Please dont poke the bear, pretty please, cause once you have it riled up there is no turning back.

I really didn’t make my last point clear.
Strict law enforcement, and the THREAT of strict law enforcement is one of the best ways to prevent sane Lefties from crossing the line into violence.
However, because of Leftist enclaves and jury nullifications in those enclaves, changes of venue MUST be sought in cases like that Berkley Antifa bike-lock attacker (who walked with a local jury.)
Another problem with this law enforcement threat is that it doesn’t work on crazy lefties.
So, there’s that.
Getting crazy people on police record so they can be prevented from getting guns would be great.

But then, AIDS could have been nipped in the bud had sex-crazy homosexuals been prevented from having bath houses handy for anonymous sex. Public health officials tried to close them in time but gay rights’ activists insisted they were necessary to gay freedom.

Lefties are exactly the same. They insist on keeping crazy lefties off the police rolls that would protect us all from an armed crazy.

Dear Liberals You will lose.

It’ll be over in two weeks.

You have no guns.

You are concentrated in urban centers.

You’d starve once the roads, bridges and tunnels are blocked.

Then we cut the Grid, EBT cards dont work, the grocery stores empty, how many recipes for rat do you have?

Be careful what you wish for!
BREAKING NEWS……..
TRUMP has won in the Supreme Court the travel ban stands.

Repeatedly, the left draws the example of Trump telling people at a rally to punch radicals disrupting the rally in the face as the genesis of all this violence. No, wrong, negative; that was a REACTION to the violence and intimidation already under way. Trump was way ahead of the curve, telling people not to take the screaming, slurs, intimidation and threats without defending themselves and HE would defend them. I don’t like it, I don’t want it, but the left is determined to take it in that direction. We KNOW what their tactic is, watching how the UN ignores Hamas violence while condemning Israel’s response. Make no mistake, the left here has the same plan, but enough punches in the face and they will subside. At some point, good people simply have to defend themselves from tyranny.

Straight from a liberal web site with hundreds of thousands of Twitter followers:

https://splinternews.com/this-is-just-the-beginning-1827099100

All non leftists- keep your powder dry! Their little Marxist worldwide revolution is getting hotter by the day. At some point, those of us with experience in stomping out nutcases like these overseas may have to do some stomping over here.

@Greg: Did you see this, provided by @another vet: ?

https://splinternews.com/this-is-just-the-beginning-1827099100

What do you think? Do you think wise people would ignore such threats and calmly wait until it is too late to respond or do you think your left is going too far and should be reined in?

@Brother Bob, #5:

There’s nothing preemptive about hitting back. Ask yourself this: If your side was as well armed and trained as Conservatives what do you think the bloodbath would look like? The fact that our side hasn’t opened up speaks volumes. It would be wise for The Radical Left to stop poking the bear

How many instances of homicidal, politically motivated attacks by left wing extremists have we had inside the United States over the last few of decades? One? Two, maybe? The guy at the baseball park is the only one I can think of at the moment.

When was the last time a leftist extremist plowed through a crowd with a car, or bombed a women’s clinic, or assassinated a doctor in his church, or committed mass murder during a black church service, or murdered parents during a children’s performance in a Tennessee Unitarian church, or stabbed a gay Jewish college student to death, or went berserk and stabbed Muslims on a commuter train, or attacked a Sikh temple–being too stupid to know they weren’t Muslims, or crashed an airplane into an IRS office, or bombed an Oklahoma City Federal Building? When did they last take up arms and occupy federal property?

In this country, The People don’t need violence to remove a dangerous ideology from control and bring about a much needed course correction. Truthful, persuasive words and the power of the ballot box can accomplish that. Resisting that Constitutional process by violence is fundamentally unAmerican. We should be careful what we advocate.

@kitt, #8:

They have no clue most have never seen a war or even been in a school yard fist fight.

I’ve got a handful of military decorations, a year’s worth of memories, and a few million democrats much like me that say you don’t know what you’re talking about. Any sane person who has seen the ugliness and stupidity of war doesn’t want it here. Theoretically, at least, the entire point of it all has been to prevent it from ever being here.

@Deplorable Me, #11:

Make no mistake, the left here has the same plan, but enough punches in the face and they will subside.

Me ne frego, eh? Do you have any clue how much your words sound like those of a Fascist street thug or a Nazi Brownshirt? You’re projecting, which they too were encouraged to do.

@Greg:

How many instances of homicidal, politically motivated attacks by left wing extremists have we had inside the United States over the last few of decades? One? Two, maybe? The guy at the baseball park is the only one I can think of at the moment.

Where do you suppose that assassin got his motivation? Did he just wake up one day and decide to shoot Republicans or was he subjected to a constant barrage of leftist propaganda that Republicans are racists that deserve to die? You conveniently ignore the assaults on police officers and firemen that the Black Lives Matter movement has triggered.

We currently have Democrat Representatives and Senators promoting violent confrontations, just as we have liberal Hollywood elitists suggesting rape, imprisonment, beheading, assassination of people who have done NOTHING but have different politics.

When was the last time a leftist extremist plowed through a crowd with a car, or bombed a women’s clinic, or assassinated a doctor in his church, or committed mass murder during a black church service, or murdered parents during a children’s performance in a Tennessee Unitarian church, or stabbed a gay Jewish college student to death, or went berserk and stabbed Muslims on a commuter train, or attacked a Sikh temple–being too stupid to know they weren’t Muslims, or crashed an airplane into an IRS office, or bombed an Oklahoma City Federal Building?

Not only was none of this committed by conservatives, none of it was promoted by the Republican party, Republican leaders or Republicans.

In this country, The People don’t need violence to remove a dangerous ideology from control and bring about a much needed course correction.

Yet that is all Democrats are offering.

Do you have any clue how much your words sound like those of a Fascist street thug or a Nazi Brownshirt? You’re projecting, which they too were encouraged to do.

You are a joke, you’re arguments so weak and silly. How about, “I know you are, but what am I?” As Wil Smith once said, “Don’t start nothin, won’t be nothing.” Yet, the left has already started it. You try to apologize for it and brush it away, as if no one will notice, as with your using my remark devoid of all the context before it. Yes, taking my comment alone sounds fascist; however, that comment alone is EXACTLY what your side is doing. Your frustrated, spoiled, crybaby political side is desperate for some miracle to remove Trump from office and the longer that miracle… piss-gate, Russia-gate, whore-gate, jacket-gate, salad dressing-gate… fails to materialize and grant you your beloved impeachment, the more frustrated you babies become, the more of you promote violence and the more of your frustrated, ignorant, willful idiots commit it.

Just heed the warning: be VERY careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

How about an answer to #13?

@Greg: You are part of a handfull only a handfull and you are getting up there in years, when was the last time you were in full pack for a little hike? We are begging you liberals dont poke.

@kitt: Even bad ass little Hoggie has to have an armed security detail to protect him when he is talking big. The talkers are not going to be on the front line. I know Soros is rich, but I don’t think he can afford enough soldiers to carry the day.

@Deplorable Me, #17:

Where do you suppose that assassin got his motivation?

I began by acknowledging that single example was a person left-of-center. What I’m rebutting is the assertion that a left-of-center political orientation equates to a predisposition to violence. Apparently it does not, because far more acts of violence in recent decades have been committed by those who espouse right-wing extremist views. That is a factual observation, supported by actual evidence. We can tally up the numbers and compare them. It’s observable reality, not an indoctrinated belief.

Not only was none of this committed by conservatives…

Conservatives have little to do with right-wing extremism. Conservatives don’t advocate political violence as a means of getting their way. That is not in accordance with conservative principles, any more than it is with liberal principles.

Trump has little to do with traditional conservatism. The policies he’s putting into effect do not reflect traditional conservative principles or values. Only the accompanying spin references them. It’s all a cover for something else.

You are a joke, you’re arguments so weak and silly.

No, I am not, and they are not, and that is the root your problem. It’s why you resort to personal attacks rather than rational arguments, to falsehoods rather than truth, and why those who share your views hint that violence might be necessary to get their way. Reason and traditional American values and principles will not take some people where they want to go.

@Deplorable Me: If the lefty wack jobs get their wish, there won’t be any “front line” where large troop formations square off against one another. It’ll be more like what we saw in post invasion Iraq. These left wing elitists who are stoking the fire have no clue what they are wishing for given that over 99% have never experienced war before, especially like the one that hopefully won’t be unleashed here because of their growing emotional instability. The Bolshevik elitists (and that’s exactly who they are or aspire to be) who are promoting all of this will not be safe in their little upscale, all white enclaves like they were when they were inciting the riots in Ferguson.

@Greg:

I began by acknowledging that single example was a person left-of-center. What I’m rebutting is the assertion that a left-of-center political orientation equates to a predisposition to violence.

Well, if you would at least THINK about the question, if not just bust out and answer it, you will GET the point; LEFT WING RHETORIC was his motivation. And that wasn’t some obscure ranting, it is pervasive from the left and the more frustrated you become, the more toxic it becomes. YOUR spokespeople pour out a constant barrage of hateful lies; Trump is racist, Trump hates immigrants, Trump wants to kill Muslims, Trump wants to take away everyone’s health care, Trump is getting rich from his office, Trump colluded with Russians to win, Trump is a Russian puppet. Who WOULDN’T want to kill that guy? Only problem is, NONE of it is true. ALL of it is the most hateful, vile, bigoted lies the human mind can conjure up, all driven by the sore losership spawned by the WORST candidate to ever run for the office getting her just deserts.

ar more acts of violence in recent decades have been committed by those who espouse right-wing extremist views.

Most of the mass shootings have been committed by liberals. But, that is not the topic nor the problem. The problem is the upper echelons of liberals PROMOTING violence. While most of the heinous crimes are committed by liberals (you can argue that EVERY thief is a liberal since they believe what someone else owns is rightfully theirs and they don’t mind taking it away from them), they are random acts. Liberal elitists are PROMOTING violence, even depicting it in imagery when they have the capability.

Conservatives don’t advocate political violence as a means of getting their way. That is not a conservative principle, any more than it is a liberal principle.

Pay attention. Listen to what your leaders are saying. Listen to what liberal entertainers promote. It HAS BECOME A LIBERAL PRINCIPLE. That’s what we are pointing out. Liberals have accepted and embraced fascism in all its facets.

No, I am not, and they are not

Yes you and they are. You post here excusing the rash of violence and violent rhetoric from the Democrat side by trying to pretend it doesn’t exist or that McVey represented a political faction. Do you actually think you can throw that CRAP out here and someone will say, “Oh, yeah… I forgot about him. Well, I guess Watters must mean something else besides violently confront those in Trump’s cabinet and those who support Trump. Sorry.”

Where is my answer to #13?

@Brother Bob: Like the example of the coward that sneaked up behind the Trump supported and clocked him with a bicycle lock and a JURY found him not guilty, fascist regimes usually benefit from judges that will gleefully look the other way while crimes against political opponents are committed. Research the Nazis People’s Court and see if there are any similarities.

@another vet: As in the above example, the way they will operate will be like the bicycle lock coward. The difference will be that one guy hit in the back of the head is going turn around and give the guy a double tap to the chest. A screaming crowd is going to corner some woman that happens to be armed and, feeling threatened and in a panic, she will open fire on the crowd, which usually and in cowardly fashion, brings along children. The left is ITCHING for such an event for, like school shootings which they enable with their “gun free zone” law, they make great political hay on such tragedies.

@Deplorable Me, #23:

Well, if you would at least…

Digress? No thank you. I’ll stick with the point I made: Right wing extremists have committed far more politically-motivated violence in America in recent decades than those on the left.

Most of the mass shootings have been committed by liberals.

That’s a false statement. Not everyone who isn’t a right wing extremist is automatically a liberal. Most mass shootings have been committed by mentally unbalanced people. (And I already know what meme you’ll toss out in response to that observation, so don’t bother.)

Pay attention. Listen to what your leaders are saying. Listen to what liberal entertainers promote.

I haven’t heard democratic leaders advocating violence. Entertainers don’t speak for anyone but themselves. Throw down a Peter Fonda, and I’ll raise you a Ted Nugent. The fact that someone has a spotlight based on celebrity doesn’t make them a spokesman for anyone. Most celebrities aren’t normal people living normal lives to begin with.

Your Fearless Leader included. His daily Twitter posts do more to incite and promote division and animosity than anyone else I can think of. It’s a regular part of how he operates. The man spouts off like a playground bully, who might at any moment turn into a dangerous mob leader. But it’s always the other guy who can’t be reasoned with, and represents the threat.

Resistance IS NOT futile. Push back is essential. And the ballot box is the place to settle the argument.

It doesn’t appear mad Maxine likes it when SHE is harassed.

https://twitter.com/drudgeheadlines/status/1011636170504196096

@Deplorable Me: Did you see her smug smile at the back of the elevator behind her security detail?
@Greg:

Resistance IS NOT futile. Push back is essential. And the ballot box is the place to settle the argument.

We have done that, and you assclowns wont give it a rest. In one example, a senior DHS official living in the Washington. D.C. area found a burnt and decapitated animal on his front porch, according to an official with knowledge of the incident. Thats the left in a nutshell.

@Greg:

Right wing extremists have committed far more politically-motivated violence in America in recent decades than those on the left.

Though false, that isn’t the point here. While “extremists” in every sense of the word, those promoting the violence today comprise the Democrat mainstream. There are no Democrat “moderates” who have a voice today. Schumer can pretend to seek civility on the Senate floor, but until he calls out Booker, Schumer, Lee, Waters and anyone else who call for violent confrontation, he’s just lying… again.

I haven’t heard democratic leaders advocating violence.

Because you don’t want to. This is part of your silly and weak argument.

Entertainers don’t speak for anyone but themselves.

Yet these are your benefactors, those who finance your campaigns. So, no Democrats call them out. Yes, they speak for YOU. They stand on the stages with YOUR leaders and put money in THEIR coffers. More silly and more weak. Nugent never proposed kidnapping the Obama children and locking them up with pedophiles, even though Obama was carrying out the exact same policies Trump was with illegal immigrant children.

The fact that someone has a spotlight based on celebrity doesn’t make them a spokesman for anyone. Most celebrities aren’t normal people living normal lives to begin with.

You cultist leftists absolute DOTE on what these air-headed celebrities do and say. If you disagreed with them, you would show it in such a way as they would suffer for their stupidity and stop it. But, as I said, you DOTE on their stupidity.

Your Fearless Leader included. His daily Twitter posts do more to incite and promote division and animosity than anyone else I can think of.

Of course he does. You’ll get no argument from me. Everything he does and everything he says drives you sore losers absolutely nuts because you can’t accept the fact that Trump is the duly elected President and your criminal liar is relegated to the dust bin of history. But, that is YOUR problem, not his or due to anything he has done wrong. There is divisiveness because you WANT divisiveness. Grow up and be adults… the divisiveness ends. It’s all up to you.

Stop promoting violence… the violence stops. It’s all up to you.

Where’s my answer to #13? Are you going to sit in the coward’s corner with AJ and Rich?

@kitt: She’s a coward like the rest of the big mouthed liberals.

@Deplorable Me, #27:

Though false, that isn’t the point here.

It isn’t false, and it most definitely was the point.

While “extremists” in every sense of the word, those promoting the violence today comprise the Democrat mainstream.

No, they don’t. Those promoting violence don’t comprise the mainstream of anything, except perhaps the U.S. prison population and a few extremist political groups. If you believe otherwise, you might want to think carefully about who you’re associating with.

People advocating sorting out the nation’s differences with violence are f-cking insane. They need to be on terrorist watch lists, and arrested at the first sign they’re about to act out. They’re no less a danger than radicalized Muslim terrorists, neo-Nazi militias, KKK members, or women’s clinic bombers—none of which are American in any proper sense of the word.

Gotta love the new GOP ad. It sums everything up pretty well. I’m sure there will be multiple updates to it.

@Deplorable Me: I saw a good cartoon that kind of summed up a thing or two. The caption read: “Folks keep talkin’ about another Civil War. One side has 8 trillion bullets. The other doesn’t know which bathroom to use.”

The left drew first blood with the Antifa attacks. Then there was the Scalise shooting. The church shooting in Texas happened a few days after Antifa called for white parents and small business owners to be hung. And we still haven’t been told what Paddock’s motives were. But here is a theory that was briefed to Congress a couple of weeks back:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OQIrHaypx_RtpQi1-c30smrP4emj22Os/view

@Brother Bob: We have a big hint as to how police are prevented from doing their job with Baltimore after the Freddie Gray death.
The mayor ordered police to stand down and allow the “protesters” to “peacefully” burn down portions of their city.

When I was in LB, CA., the police union created a climate of cowardice.
If “occupiers” took over someone’s business, the police were more concerned about getting getting as much overtime as possible while allowing the situation to simmer indefinitely.

Often the Lefties are targeting police who are also people of color the same as them. Sometimes the police show solidarity with the protesters instead of protecting the property of “evil” capitalists.

@another vet, #29:

It says more about the moral bankruptcy of the GOP and the abject dishonesty of the people who patched the video together than it does about anything else.

When did Bernie Sanders ever once advocate or even suggest a single g-damn thing the random stream of images in the video suggests? This is deceptive propaganda at its worse—it’s actually making use of a classic brainwashing technique. It might have come out of a propaganda studio in Nazi Germany. Are you so appallingly naive that you don’t realize that? Are you so far gone that you don’t even care?

What’s going on in this video is called “unconscious conditioning.” Two unrelated things are being streamed into the viewer’s mind simultaneously—one being Bernie Sander’s voice and words, the other being a stream of unrelated but disturbing images. Without the realizing it, the two are becoming unconsciously connected in the viewer’s mind, so that one will be thereafter associated with the other.

It’s brainwashing, folks—brought to you by the GOP on their official YouTube channel.

June 26, 2018 — Ex-Republican Operative Steve Schmidt: ‘The Party of Trump Must Be Obliterated. Annihilated. Destroyed’

This present strain of know-nothingism has long been in the party’s DNA.
“This cancer has always been there. This dormant cancer. But it has become fully embraced in this moment. We’re seeing at this moment a president of the United States do five things. He is using mass rallies that are fueled by constant lying to incite fervor and devotion in his political base. The second thing we see him do is to affix blame for every problem in the world. Many of them are complex, not so different from the issues faced at the end of Agrarian age and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. We see him attack minority populations with words like “invade” and “infest.” The third thing he does is a create a shared sense of victimization caused by the scapegoated populations. This is the high act of Trumpism: From Trump to Sean Hannity to Laura Ingraham, everyone is a victim. The fourth thing he does is he alleges conspiracy by nefarious and unseen hidden forces – the “deep state.” And the fifth thing is the assertion that “I am the law, that I am above it.” He just said immigrants don’t get a hearing; they don’t get a court representation.”

It’s a life-long republican saying these things, not a democrat.

Can the Republican Party be saved?
“If the party of Lincoln and Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt and Reagan is to be redeemed and resurrected, then the party of Trump must be obliterated. Annihilated. Destroyed. And all of the collaborators, the complicit enablers, the school of cowards, need to go down. Maybe something can regenerate from that.”

Schmidt officially abandoned the Republican Party on Tuesday.

@Greg:

No, they don’t. Those promoting violence don’t comprise the mainstream of anything,

Comprises the mainstream of the Democrat party.

People advocating sorting out the nation’s differences with violence are f-cking insane. They need to be on terrorist watch lists, and arrested at the first sign they’re about to act out. They’re no less a danger than radicalized Muslim terrorists, neo-Nazi militias, KKK members, or women’s clinic bombers—none of which are American in any proper sense of the word.

Absolutely true and agreed upon. This is the core of the Democrat party now.

It says more about the moral bankruptcy of the GOP

The Democrats are morally bankrupt. Only people without morals call for violence against others.

When did Bernie Sanders ever once advocate or even suggest a single g-damn thing the random stream of images in the video suggests?

Not only does the video make the clear connection between Bernie’s radical rhetoric and an explosion of violent behavior but though the ANTIFA thugs claimed they did this in support of Bernie, he never denounced their violence. Neither did Hillary. Neither did Obama. They liked it, they promoted it.

What’s going on in this video is called “unconscious conditioning.” Two unrelated things are being streamed into the viewer’s mind simultaneously

Oh… you mean like showing images of children in cages from 2014 or staged at liberal protests and then showing Trump? I don’t need the video; I remember it happening and the violence was perpetrated, during the campaign in Bernie’s name and after the election in the Democrat’s name.

We are aware the establishment class of the Republican party does not like Trump’s unconventional approach to the nation’s problems. Business as usual has not worked and Trump will work with ANYONE that will help and oppose ANYONE that wants to keep their nest feathered with the status quo. But, they aren’t calling for violence. That’s what Democrats do.

#13 is still hanging out there, unanswered. Here’s your answer; you don’t have one. You claim the Democrats are not promoting violence, then there is instructions on doing just that by an organization that supports Democrats and who Democrats support.

@another vet:

Gotta love the new GOP ad. It sums everything up pretty well. I’m sure there will be multiple updates to it.

Yeah, well according to Greg those people making those comments and the reactions that followed them don’t exists. Tim McVeigh! Tim McVVeigh! Tim McVeigh!

@Nanny G: Some have the impression that if we just let them vent, like a spoiled child kicking and screaming on the floor, they will exhaust themselves and get it out of their system. Like Chamberlain, they are wrong and do nothing but express weakness which the left, like Hitler did with England and France, exploits. It is what Putin did with Obama. Weakness gets played, strength and resolution carried the day.

@Greg: Schmidt is a stain nothing more, Your news feed allowed him unchallenged to drag the USA through muck. FYI there were 2 times we had internment camps and both times it was under a Progressive President. How could they sit there and let him spew such vile and vulger untruths. Trump did not build those detention centers, they know that and that Stain knows that. Do you see what they are doing, dehumanizing the Trump voters like the Nazis did with the Jews, its ok to kick them out of public places. Its the same old tired ploy.
What the hell is “liberal democracy?” We live in a Representative Republic, all the identity politics they push is bordering on sedition .Just know those on the more conservative side of politic are not coming for you or anyone else, those calling for violence need to be promptly ignored and laughed at.
The Republican party isnt dying it seems the Democrats are https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/jun/27/the-moment-28-year-old-socialist-beats-top-ranking-democrat-in-congressional-primary-video Despite Socalism working so well ummmm nowhere.

@kitt:

What the hell is “liberal democracy?”

Well, that’s where everyone is free to be a liberal. Otherwise, you are banished.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/jun/27/the-moment-28-year-old-socialist-beats-top-ranking-democrat-in-congressional-primary-video

He used the Hillary playbook. “I have this cinched, it’s mine and it is owed me, so why bother campaigning?” The support for this goofy broad and Bernie is further indication of where the Democrat party is today.

@Deplorable Me: She supports open borders eliminating ICE and Hamas what fresh hell is that?

HELL yes it is time! We should have had the balls to wipe them out years ago. Godless Communist America-haters!

@kitt: Socialists always support open borders… until productive people start to flee. THEN they build a wall.

@Greg: Like the nightclub in FL, Fort Hood, the beltway sniper, San Bernadino, Ballpark shooting in DC, And any weekend in Chicago? Oh, and 9/11.

The politically dispassionate never buld ovens and never think waht they are doing is good enough to put anyone in any

@Deplorable Me, #35:

Comprises the mainstream of the Democrat party.

That would be a particularly evil propaganda meme. Those promoting political violence don’t comprise the mainstream of America, of the Democratic Party, or of the Republican party. Such people are, by definition, extremists of one sort or another, and are considered a threat by all mainstream Americans and all mainstream American institutions.

Advocating domestic political change by means of violence is distinctly unAmerican. No one will get away with calling this normal.

Absolutely true and agreed upon. This is the core of the Democrat party now.

I don’t see many life-long democrats abandoning their party in disgust and publicly condemning it for the wholesale betrayal of fundamental American principles.

@Greg:

That would be a particularly evil propaganda meme.

I will revoke the thought when I see powerful Democrats calling the perps out by name, be they white, black, wealthy donor, Hollywood celebrity, media talking head or “comedian”. You can notify me when that begins to happen.

Those promoting political violence don’t comprise the mainstream of America, of the Democratic Party, or of the Republican party.

Certainly not the Republican party, but you need to check again at who is directing your party. Again, once whomever you consider the “mainstream” begins denouncing and holding responsible those calling for and committing the violence, you make sure to notify me.

I don’t see many life-long democrats abandoning their party in disgust and publicly condemning it for the wholesale betrayal of fundamental American principles.

There you go, destroying your own argument. Of course you don’t, because the majority of the spoiled, entitled, crybaby Democrats AGREE with the use of intimidation, threats and violence that has become normalized by them.

@kitt, #36:

Schmidt is a stain nothing more.

Schmidt’s words are precisely on target. Donald Trump is the most serious internal threat America has faced since populace personality cults began to emerge during the era between World Wars One and Two. He’s actually far more dangerous, because he has managed to grab the presidency. He did so by exploiting divisions and rendering truth meaningless, and he’s continuing to advance himself by taking the nation apart. The objective is to maximize anger, divisions, and confusion, because that’s the sort of environment he can best exploit. He unifies nothing but negative forces. He must be removed from power, and that removal must be done by entirely constitutional means—at the ballot box—or the damages he’s done to democracy will never be repaired. He cannot be allowed a second term, nor can he be allowed to continue having a cowed and neutered Congressional majority as his lap dog through the balance of his first.

If Trump supporters openly talking about resorting to violence to get their way while projecting that sort of behavior onto their political opponents isn’t a serious warning signal, I don’t know what would be. What do they intend to do? Run out into the streets with their gun show acquisitions and start shooting down their democratic neighbors? Such talk is complete lunacy. It’s how a civilized nation turns into Bosnia or Syria or Afghanistan.

@Deplorable Me: No use a third world education that leans to socialism not Republicism, a hive mind.
Greggie give it a rest your education does not allow logic or critical thinking, Schmidt is a media whore if any on MSLSD were patriots they would have questioned his ignorant rant.
2 terms deal with it 3 SCOTUS picks deal with it, improved immigration policies deal with it.
Here is another typical Hillary backer http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5890179/Anti-child-abuse-advocate-arrested-trying-sex-kids.html

@Greg: Trump is a threat to the establishment political elite. A DIRE threat, and they know it.

That’s a GOOD thing.

@kitt: Leave Greg alone while he’s straw-grasping.

2 terms deal with it 3 SCOTUS picks deal with it, improved immigration policies deal with it.

That will not be allowed to happen. Living in your propaganda bubble, you have no idea of the extent to which Trump’s behavior and his supporters’ increasingly crazy talk about resorting to violence will mobilize mainstream voters to come out and take a stand against it.

Greggie give it a rest your education does not allow logic or critical thinking…

There seems to be a lot of things that many Trump supporters don’t recognize when they’re on open display directly in front of their faces—rational thinking and an education that didn’t cease when college ended being a couple of examples.

Nor do you seem to recognize an unprincipled idiot with highly developed skills as a conman when you see one. Anyone but Trump was actually an entirely rational position of last resort. Schmidt certainly knows that. He refuses to be complicit. He’s not going to abandon his fundamental principles to be anyone’s neutered lap dog—least of all Donald Trump’s.

@Greg: Actually he got the position from ANYONE BUT HILLARY movement that was fully justified due to her total disregard for national security, her drinking problem and her failing health. Just not time for a stairmaster installation in the White House. No we are not coming out of gun shows to blast away at you, but idiots should be very careful who they attack C&C is popular.
Democrat states are losing population, voter flight.

@Greg:

Living in your propaganda bubble, you have no idea of the extent to which Trump’s behavior and his supporters’ increasingly crazy talk about resorting to violence will mobilize mainstream voters to come out and take a stand against it.

“Crazy talk”? The left is DOING IT. It ain’t talk. Your fellow whiners are fueled by propaganda designed to incense you. Here’s a couple of examples:

This liberal headline suggests Sessions was making jokes about separating families while in the reality world, he was making fun of the hypcritical gated-community liberals who would happily have families separated and imprisoned it they breached THEIR walls. But liberals, in their hate-driven dementia, are too stupid to see it.

Another story, from Occupy Democrats (another violence-prone group) the calls out Republican hypocrisy for complaining about Sara Sanders being run out of a restaurant when Biden was refused service in a cookie shop in 2012. No, again, lies replace facts for, in reality, Biden’s advance team wanted to hold a RALLY in a bakery and the man politely refused.

Why do you guys lie and misrepresent so much? Because you have no facts to support your arguments?