What punishment did Ted Kennedy face for asking Russia to intervene in US elections?


Let’s establish a couple of things first. There is no proof that Jeff Sessions lied under oath. He was asked a particularly contorted question designed to ensnare him no matter what he answered. A simple straight forward question would have gotten a straight forward answer.

Franken:CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that quote, ‘Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.’ These documents also allegedly say quote, ‘There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump’s surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.’

“Now, again, I’m telling you this as it’s coming out, so you know. But if it’s true, it’s obviously extremely serious and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?”

“In the course of this campaign.”   The question was intentionally half-assed and the half-assed Franken knows it and really only the half-assed will persist in this line of attack.

Sen. Pat Leahy asked straight forward question and got a straight forward answer.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., asked: “Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?”

Sessions responded, in total: “No.”

The issue is a settled one, but put that in abeyance for a minute. What if the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russians? What would be the punishment? Is there a precedent for an American colluding with the Russians to intervene in an election?

Why yes there is.

Forbes, 8/28/2009

Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

“On 9-10 May of this year,” the May 14 memorandum explained, “Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.” (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) “The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.”

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

What punishment was meted out to Kennedy for this transgression?

Non-hypocrites want to know. If Kennedy’s actions didn’t rise to the level of outrage and retribution, then we’re all wasting our time. This is before we even get to Hillary and Bill being owned by the Russians.

And also before we get to Obama interfering with Israeli elections (“Shocking interference”) , French elections and his “monstrous” interference with Brexit.

democrats were perfectly fine with Russians interfering with US elections and were perfectly fine with obama interfering with everyone else’s elections.  So what exactly are they whining about now?


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A two year suspended sentence, huh oh not that one.
That was for his “fender bender
It was nine hours before he reported the accident. In the meantime, he walked back to his motel, complained to the manager about a noisy party, took a shower, went to sleep, ordered newspapers when he woke up and spoke to a friend and two lawyers before finally calling the police.

Divers later estimated that if he had called them immediately, they would have had time to pull out Mary Jo. She had not drowned, but had survived in an air pocket inside the car – she was asphyxiated only when the oxygen ran out several hours later.
Generally a sleeze bag all around.

So, well before the election, Obama wiretapped Trump’s home, offices and campaign.
Where’s the punishment for that?
What’s the punishment for it?
A FISA judge turned him down for a general wiretap on all things Trump.
So he came back with a specific FISA request which then was approved but which, like so many illegals, overstayed that purpose.

Also, would Sen Sessions even have met with the Russian Ambassador had not the Obama White House set him up????
And, did the Obama White House set him up simply because he was a supporter of candidate Trump?
So, now the Dems want to criminalize normal, legal, common association between elected officials and the Russian Ambassador?
Not anymore.
Too many Dems have been caught in photo flagrante with him themselves.
That’s one ”scandal-de-jour” they want to die.
But, look at Trump, now president, setting up the next scandal.
Not Dems.
And it’s a doozy.
Illegal wiretaps.
Watergate writ large.

What else was Chapaquedic Ted up to besides getting the russkies to interfer in our election? in any case he has gone to his award and being the brother to a man(JFK)who served his contry with distinction during WW II and the PT-109

@Nanny G:

Whatever you do, do not let greg know this. It might send him off the deep end.

Ted Kennedy murdered a woman and had no consequence for that. Then later in life he and Chris Dodd would get all drunked up and go threesome with a waitress, they called it a waitress sandwich.

@Nanny G:

So, well before the election, Obama wiretapped Trump’s home, offices and campaign.

The fact that you regurgitate an unfounded knee jerk early morning Trump toilet Tweet as fact speaks volumes of your honesty and integrity. The depths of the rabid right grasps is truely amazing and clearly displays your lack of intellect and any interest of reasonable dialog.

I’d say that Lindsey Graham pretty much nailed it today when he said that if Obama did indeed aquire a warrant (which is the only way this charge could have happened, even for a president) then there must be one hell of a lot of dirt on Trump.

I suspect as the days pass, this freak show of an administrastion will sink deeper into the scandalous swamp while you Trump lickers will increase your howl with “but, but, but OBBAAAAAMAAAA!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Generally a sleeze bag all around.

Not exactly a disqualification to be a liberal icon. Obama, Bill and Hillary prove that as well.

@Ajay42302: This reminds me of when you wrote, “I, like other liberals, don’t care about justice or laws. I just want weasel politicians to lie and cheat so that they can maintain power and tell me how to lead a life I am too stupid and cowardly to lead myself.” Yes, we understand you follow the “ends justifies the means” directive. Doesn’t look like Obama had a lot of confidence in Hillary winning, does it?

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Seems a prerequisite, slimey weasle zipper, liar falls in there. They all have testimonial graves you can lay flowers at.

Obama’s use of FISA to obtain a wiretap warrant against Trump was illegal:
1) FISA is limited to intel about “grave” or “hostile” attacks by foreign entities (sabotage, terror)
2) It can only be used to eavesdrop on foreign powers or agents
IF an American citizen is implicated the information must be shared with CONGRESS.

All Obama did was non-deny-deny.
He said he had a rule not to do this.
BUT he didn’t say he didn’t break that rule this one time.
Why would he?
We all know rules are made to be broken.
We also know saying he had a rule doesn’t mean he was faithful to following that rule 100% of the time.
We are all witnesses to how his IRS treated conservatives, despite all the rules that should have protected them.

@Nanny G: I’m sure there wasn’t a “smidgeon” of wire tapping done.

Nasty Nancy and her little meeting with a certian person she claims she did’nt meet with

@Nanny G: I do not think that Obama knows what losing the election for Democrats means. Trump is much smarter than Obama. Obama does not have the power or the staff any more to allow him to do anything he wants to do. Every time the Democrats pull a dirty trick like this and some of the others, they lose a few more voters for 2018. Americans may be many things, but they do believe in fair play. With the media at the lowest levels of credibility in decades, voters are moving to alternative media for news. The election shows that Trump supporters do not care about the MSM faux scandals. If they continue, Trump may have 2 terms as President and Pence likely will too. In the mean time, Franken and his buddies will be looking for employment elsewhere.

ever hear the one of drunk kennedy kicking in the door of a senator’s girlfriend in Fairfax. Cops came, door destroyed, nothing happened.

@kitt: Ted Kennedy is a murderer.