Obama is cooking the intelligence about ISIS- and why

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In what is a shocking development, 50 intelligence analysts are in full revolution against the Obama regime. They assert that Obama is cooking the intelligence books:

More than 50 intelligence analysts working out of the U.S. military’s Central Command have formally complained that their reports on ISIS and al Qaeda’s branch in Syria were being inappropriately altered by senior officials, The Daily Beast has learned.

The complaints spurred the Pentagon’s inspector general to open an investigation into the alleged manipulation of intelligence. The fact that so many people complained suggests there are deep-rooted, systemic problems in how the U.S. military command charged with the war against the self-proclaimed Islamic State assesses intelligence.

“The cancer was within the senior level of the intelligence command,” one defense official said.

Obama’s hand can be seen in the process:

The complaints allege that in some cases key elements of intelligence reports were removed, resulting in a document that didn’t accurately capture the analysts’ conclusions, sources familiar with the protest said. But the complaint also goes beyond alleged altering of reports and accuses some senior leaders at CENTCOM of creating an unprofessional work environment. One person who knows the contents of the written complaint sent to the inspector general said it used the word “Stalinist” to describe the tone set by officials overseeing CENTCOM’s analysis.

Obama wants ISIS undersold:

Two senior analysts at CENTCOM signed a written complaint sent to the Defense Department inspector general in July alleging that the reports, some of which were briefed to President Obama, portrayed the terror groups as weaker than the analysts believe they are. The reports were changed by CENTCOM higher-ups to adhere to the administration’s public line that the U.S. is winning the battle against ISIS and al Nusra, al Qaeda’s branch in Syria, the analysts claim.

While this kind of revolt is startling, Obama’s lying is nothing new. Obama depicted ISIS as the “JV” and then denied saying it. Lies.

In great irony, Obama blamed “bad intel” for his miserable performance.

Another lie.

Obama had been warned three times about ISIS, including a warning from Lt. Gen Michael Flynn:

On Feb. 11, 2014, the Pentagon’s top intelligence official, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, warned the group would likely attempt to take over even more territory.

“ISIL probably will attempt to take territory in Iraq and Syria to exhibit its strength in 2014, as demonstrated recently in Ramadi and Fallujah, and the group’s ability to concurrently maintain multiple safe havens in Syria,” Flynn told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Michael Flynn was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency from 2012-2014, and was appointed by Obama. Flynn has been very critical of Obama’s disastrous Middle East policies. Flynn asserts that arming and funding ISIS was a “willful decision”:

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Similarly, Rand Paul has asserted that Obama armed the allies of ISIS.

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There’s more US stupidity here:

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Why is Obama cooking the books?

It’s not secret that Obama (and Hillary Clinton) wanted Assad out. To that end Obama and Hillary were in favor of working the Free Syrian Army. Obama and Hillary wanted Assad out so badly they were willing to ignore the alliance between the FSA and ISIS. Those in opposition to Assad needed weapons. There happened to be a plethora of weapons available not all that far away- in Gaddafi’s arsenal in Libya. The broker for those deals was Ambassador Chris Stevens:

But there’s growing evidence that U.S. agents — particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens — were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group — a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

Weapons were provided to Syrian rebels:

WSJ reports that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission, which involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals. These weapons are presumably from Muammar Gaddafi’s stock of about 20,000 portable heat-seeking missiles, the bulk of which were SA-7 surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles.

What’s odd is that a Libyan ship—which reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7s—docked in southern Turkey on Sept. 6 and its cargo ended up in the hands of Syrian rebels. The man who organized that shipment, Tripoli Military Council head Abdelhakim Belhadj, worked directly with Stevens during the Libyan revolution.

One wonders whether toppling Gaddafi was a goal in itself or merely the vehicle for furnishing Syrian “rebels” (including ISIS) with weapons to topple Syria. The rationale for toppling Gaddafi was to stop the violence against demonstrations. Yet when Iran murdered countless numbers of protesters in the uprising of 2009 Obama had nothing to say and nothing to do. Today the Obama-Clinton legacy in Libya is a failed state.

To speak honestly of ISIS and its true stature is to draw the focus onto what really transpired in Benghazi and the early and foolish support for ISIS and its allies. Barack Obama’s foreign policy is a complete disaster and now he’s desperately trying to run out the clock and hit the bricks before the truth claws its way from the bottom of the well Obama threw it down. Obama nurtured ISIS early on and then in abandoning Iraq provided ISIS a safe and happy home environment. Having piled up this mess, Obama’s plan is to sweep it all under the rug until he’s out of town and let his successor handle it. That’s why he described a “three year plan” for fighting ISIS- three years takes the battle beyond his term and (he believes) out of the realm of his culpability. Obama is largely responsible for the explosive growth of ISIS and is unwilling to engage in an effective means of countering them. Instead, he fabricates lies for the American people.

It’s all about the legacy.

Look for the Obama regime to prosecute those who participated in this whistle-blowing event.

PS: Gen. Flynn has called for Hillary Clinton to be stripped of her security clearance. It’s likely only a matter of time before Flynn is visited by the IRS or is suddenly embroiled in some curious affair.

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Dr J always seems to put the hate on our first black POTUS
Dr J NOWHERE do the whistleblowers mention Obama’s name. All of that intelligence goes up through the chain of command Are you saying that the whole chain is rotten? That our whole military is corrupt? Because they all seem to be supporting Obama, I have not seen any resignations. A better question might be posed: if the intelligence is being cooked, who wants it done? who benefits from intelligence that says that the military is doing its job well?
How does that benefit the guy at the top, when people tell him all is well?
ISIS has been around in one form or another since 2006 or earlier. Well before Obama inherited that mess

It’s all about the legacy.

100% on the money. He has failed against ISIS big time and is cooking the books (just as he has with the unemployment numbers, the number of deported illegal immigrants’ numbers, and anything to do with climate numbers) to cover either his incompetent ass or his doesn’t give a damn about this country ass. A pathetic excuse for a President and an American if there ever was one. I’m sure his ignorant sheep will be along shortly to defend him just like past sheep defended other left wing scum like Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Castro etc.

Ever notice that the only people who see Obama’s race as an issue are liberals? Conservatives don’t care, but as usual, liberals demean individual blacks by ignoring their character, thoughts and political point of view and saying the ONLY way one can judge a black person is by their skin color. And the libs simply don’t see that they’re the obsessed ones, the bigots.

The standard defense of Obama is always “He didn’t know, and you’re a racist for thinking the president of the United States should know about any of these things. P.S. He’s a brilliant scholar who is obviously the smartest person ever elected president, who doesn’t know anything that’s going on.”

Pres. Obama: “I heard on the news about this story, that, uh, Fast and Furious.”

Pres. Obama: “I first learned about it from the same news reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday.” (On IRS scandal)

Jay Carney told reporters in May of 2013, “We don’t have any independent knowledge of that, [President Obama] found out about the news reports uh yesterday on the road.” (On Justice Dept. secretly seizing reporter’s phone records)

Pres. Obama: “I can assure you that I certainly did not know anything about the IG report before the IG report had been leaked through the press.” (On spying on foreign leaders)

In May of 2014, White House spokesman Carney said that the President was clueless about the waiting list scandal and coverup involving medical care for military veterans.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters, “I have no idea when the president first learned” about it. But he foreshadowed the eventual explanation stating, “I wouldn’t be surprised, however, if he had learned about that by reading the newspaper.” (On HRC’s email)

Source:https://sharylattkisson.com/8-times-obama-says-he-was-way-out-of-the-loop/

He has learned the lesson Al Gore taught with his ‘no controlling legal authority’ B.S., and the lessons of the Nixon administration: The crucial place of “deniable accountability” in protecting his own butt over the perception of presidential competence. He’d rather you think he’s being kept out of the loop by subordinates he picked than believe he, the smartest person ever to assume the presidency according to some, knew anything about what’s going on in HIS administration.

“A better question might be posed: if the intelligence is being cooked, who wants it done? who benefits from intelligence that says that the military is doing its job well?”

Uh, the Commander-in-Chief? THERE’s the culprit trying to make Obama look bad! Let’s get after THAT guy/gal/other!

Getting elected and legacy is more important than the gigantic refugee crisis we and Europe faces now. That’s what ideology get you.

@john:

John

Your hysterics remind me of the AGW fanatics. AGW will cause stronger and weaker hurricanes, more snow and less snow, hotter and colder winters, more polar ice cap snow coverage and less.

We hate Obama because we’re racists and if we favor Ben Carson, that proves we’re racists too.

Obama has slowly been purging the military into a force properly fit to fight sexual harassment and equality for all genders.
Fighting ISIS, not so much. A good accounting can be seen here. Now he has all the moldable obsequious leaders he needs.

Sell crazy somewhere else. We’re all filled up.

@john:
When you disagreed with George W Bush, and I’m sure you did, was it about his race? 90 per cent of blacks did not vote for him, was that because of his race?
If Ben Carson is the Republican nominee will you vote for him? If no then it must be about his race, using your logic.
How about Ted Cruz? Prejudiced against Hispanics are you?
Or Carly Fiorina, won’t vote for her will you? Must be because she is a woman. My you have a lot of hate in you.
See the irony? Or are you just that blind?

Weapons were provided to Syrian rebels

The Syrian rebels are not all ISIL, are they?

I recall senior republicans repeatedly attacking Obama back in 2013 for failure to send weapons and ammunition to the Syrian rebels quickly enough, when the reason for the delay was concern that the weapons could wind up in the hands of radical jihadists:

Although the Obama administration signaled months ago that it would increase aid to Syrian rebels, the efforts have lagged because of the logistical challenges involved in delivering equipment in a war zone and officials’ fears that any assistance could wind up in the hands of jihadists. Secretary of State John F. Kerry had promised in April that the nonlethal aid would start flowing “in a matter of weeks.”

Republicans weren’t cutting Obama any slack for that concern. Yet here they are, two years later, blaming him for arms that have fallen into the hands of jihadists.

Hypocritical jackasses. This has been their typical behavior since Obama was elected. They’re masters of Monday morning quarterbacking, pitching their “superior wisdom” to audiences notable for markedly short attention spans. They’ll turn on a dime to get on the most politically advantageous side of any issue.

These are the same people who have refused to allow a vote on Obama’s request for Congressional authorization to use military force against ISIL. They even blocked open floor debate on the topic. They want to protect their ability to politically exploit the issue more than they want to deal with the issue itself.

Whatever Happened To The Debate Over Use Of Force Against ISIS?

@john: are you that facile and idiotic that you dont know how things work, so you assume and voila, thats how they work?

reports made to the president go straight to the president
they do not give such reports to past presidents
so there is no “chain of command” they move up through.

and as far as your comments on the military… your nuts.
the military considers good presidents and bad presidents as commander in chief. ie. the highest officer. other than officers, youc cant resign… and officers who resign their commission lose their careers and so on and so forth. not to mention that he is in office 4-8 years and they are in their careers 20-40 years… duh

wacko ignoramus with a computer but too lazy to learn how things work makes for a horrid divisive world… devided between morons who fight for their idiocy and ignorance and wont listen and the rest of us.

@Greg: The Syrian rebels are not all ISIL, are they?

no, there is a lot of russian spetznaz in there too… they are sending selfies home, and kerry called asking them not to do that… but alas, soviets do what soviet do even if you dont call them soviets any more.

so if obama sent weapons to the rebels, they would be using american weapons against russian troops, and he was already in the can for russia before he was born, and his parents met in a russian language class, and his mentor made bombs for the same ideology.

by not sending weapons, the made sure that europe would be flooded with islamic males.. where are the women? who is stopping the islamics from throwing christians off those boats, and what will they do when they get there?

of course residentura obscura greg will have some made up bs about it to let us know…

he still never answered why he hates the party of lincoln, martin luthor, and loves the party of bull connors, the kkk, and so on… certainly seems that the reasoning is that dems pretend what the others actually are, and he believes that..

now tell us russians are not in syria driving people out…

Russia is welcomed to take on ISIL, as far as I’m concerned. There’s plenty of trouble to go around, if they’re looking for their share. Maybe we can slip out the back door while they’re not looking and leave them with the entire frickin’ mess.

@Greg:

Greg

If you watch the last video, you’ll see that “stupid” also included people like McCain.

You may also remember that I was against taking out Gaddafi and pushing out Mubarak. I am against taking out Assad, bad as he is. The only place Obama was not interested in overthrowing was the Islamic theocracy in Iran.

Odd, no?

As far as the AUMF goes, I don’t trust Obama as far as I can spit. He is a liar of Biblical proportions as we have well documented here.

@john:

John

Valley girl Marie Harf is no longer the spokesperson for State. Know who is?

>suppressing laughter<

Two senior analysts at CENTCOM signed a written complaint sent to the Defense Department inspector general in July alleging that the reports, some of which were briefed to President Obama, portrayed the terror groups as weaker than the analysts believe they are. The reports were changed by CENTCOM higher-ups to adhere to the administration’s public line that the U.S. is winning the battle against ISIS and al Nusra, al Qaeda’s branch in Syria, the analysts claim.

Intelligence agency briefings prepared for the President of the United States are not intended for public release. They’re intended to inform the President. If such a thing were in fact happening, it wouldn’t be a case of Obama cooking the books. It would be a case of an intelligence agency deliberately misinforming a president. The results could be disastrous for U.S. interests.

Would that not be something close to treason? Possibly it would depend on the motive. No one would do such a thing without a motive.

“The cancer was within the senior level of the intelligence command,” one defense official said.

@Greg: Russia is welcomed to take on ISIL, as far as I’m concerned. There’s plenty of trouble to go around, if they’re looking for their share. \

Russia is taking the country over for Assad. so your good with that? Why do you always side with despots and murders? oh, yeah, your on the left…

These are the same people who have refused to allow a vote on Obama’s request for Congressional authorization to use military force against ISIL

they are warhawks when that is convenient and now they are doves when that is convenient… how did they stop this when they could not stop the iran deal, or anything else? you do know how things work? of course not…

House Republican leaders were quick to dismiss the White House draft authorization as too limited, insisting that the President should have fewer limitations.

“If we are going to defeat this enemy, we need a comprehensive military strategy and a robust authorization, not one that limits our options,” House Speaker John Boehner / “Any authorization for the use of military force must give our military commanders the flexibility and authorities they need to succeed and protect our people…I have concerns that the president’s request does not meet this standard.”

“I am prepared to support an Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) that provides new legal authorities to go after ISIL and other terrorist groups. However, I will not support efforts that impose undue restrictions on the U.S. military and make it harder to win,” McCarthy said

“We hope to have bipartisan support for something that would limit the power of the President, but nonetheless protect the American people in a very strong way,” Pelosi

While Obama did not repeal the 2001 military authorization, he explained in his letter that he remains “committed to working with Congress and the American people to refine, and ultimately repeal, the 2001 AUMF.”

now what was that war we were not allowed to fight to the end that mires us even today and was a big slap in the face because the limited state would not let them win? oh yeah… vietnam… at least then the president that got leveled with the crap on that was not limited but was baked for limiting things themselves, and so then did what with the military? in this piece of art, you get to make anotehr vietnam, but the president gets to say not my fault, cause i was limited by the congress.

meanwhile… you would have US troops on the ground going up against russian troops on the ground in a country that was their sphere and where they had military bases.

your a genius greg.

@Greg:

I have directed a comprehensive and sustained strategy to degrade and defeat ISIL. As part of this strategy, U.S. military forces are conducting a systematic campaign of airstrikes against ISIL in Iraq and Syria. Although existing statutes provide me with the authority I need to take these actions, I have repeatedly expressed my commitment to working with the Congress to pass a bipartisan authorization for the use of military force (AUMF) against ISIL.

so they did not block him, they fought to not give him the block he wanted against powers he already had and had unblocked.

he basically wanted an excuse that would limit himself in the issue, to which he would and greg would say – see the republicans tied his hands and that made the mess… but since the republicans did not step in the turd, greg is upset that obama has full responsibility and that what was blocked is the limit on the president (of which he could have limited himself, but be responsible).

@Greg: Intelligence agency briefings prepared for the President of the United States are not intended for public release. They’re intended to inform the President. If such a thing were in fact happening, it wouldn’t be a case of Obama cooking the books. It would be a case of an intelligence agency deliberately misinforming a president. The results could be disastrous for U.S. interests.

your pretty twisted in your comprehension…

they are complaining that he is lying to the people and what he is saying is not being transmitted to people when told. ie. they say its blue, Obama reads its blue, his people say to the public he REPRESENTS and who are his boss, not his subjects, that its red.

this then gets the bosses to think something other than they should think and so make choices that are based on the lies in the state, not on the truth. remember the agencies your commenting on serve the people, not the president not the office of the president, but the constitution.

and they are watching him lie to other members of congress.
and of course, being greg, you don’t give a damn if he lies!!!!

its morally ok for your side to lie, but immoral if your opposition does
its ok if the poliburo plays the bosses (the american public) for fools as they serve themselves, and their oligharchy of leftists….

right greg? truth, justice, is not the american way… self serving lies and such are the right thing for public servants… now what if those lies are resulting in the bigger crisis, and many are dying, and so on? no problem, greg dont care, greg is in on the cause, cause lying is the only way that his side can win. he knows that if his side tells the truth (regardless of what the opposition does), he loses, so lying is a necessity.

now tell us greg how you know what obama thinks when you now have proof he is lying to you… which is the lie, which is the truth? you wont know, but you are willing to lose your life or some such for someone lying about it. great way to motivate the military, lie, and die..

wait, you said bush lied and people died, now your saying its ok for the president to lie… make up your mind…

@Artfldgr, #15:

Russia is taking the country over for Assad. so your good with that? Why do you always side with despots and murders? oh, yeah, your on the left…

Saddam Hussein was a despot and murderer. So is Assad. Both kept radical Islamic extremists from gaining a foothold in the nations they controlled. We have seen what happens when a power vacuum is created by the removal of such people, haven’t we?

I suppose that puts me at odds with the Obama administration’s stated position on Assad. My thinking on that has changed. If we want to be rid of Assad, we had better make sure Syria is rid of ISIL first. ISIL has been revealed to be the greater evil. I’m content to leave as much of the job as possible to Russia and/or Iran. If they imagine they’re going to solve it once and for all, they’re dreaming.

Putin will discover that intervention against Islamic jihadists carries a serious long-term cost. You would think the Russians would have learned from their experiences with Afghanistan and Chechnya. Perhaps Putin’s ego prevents him from seeing that. Perhaps he needs something to distract Russians from their problems at home. Maybe it’s a combination.

@Greg: Yeah, Greg; the CIA wants to help ISIS. That makes sense.

Obama has HIS people in charge and HIS people know what Obama wants to hear. Much like the IRS, VA, HHS and Treasury, they all understand the culture of deceit and lying this administration is built on.

We have seen what happens when the war is won and a fool comes in, takes over and squanders a hard-fought victory.

Obama has HIS people in charge and HIS people know what Obama wants to hear.

Basically, that’s a crazy theory. Anyone deliberately preventing accurate information affecting command decisions in a war zone from reaching the desk of the Commander in Chief would be committing treason.

There are lunatics who might not see it that way, I suppose. The highest ranking republican in the republican-controlled House of Representatives has already attempted to scuttle State Department arms negotiations with a foreign power by entering into illegal understandings with a the head of a second foreign state. There are likely those in the U.S. intelligence community who have a political agenda. They may have lost their perspective concerning their loyalties and proper function.

We have seen what happens when the war is won and a fool comes in, takes over and squanders a hard-fought victory.

The war wasn’t won. We only eliminated a despot and set up a government and military that weren’t up to the job that the despot had previously been doing. There was a fool involved, perhaps. The right presently shows every indication that they might attempt to elect another one. I think they might even have another war lined up, with no more of a clue about what it would accomplish in the long run than they had before.

Politicization and cooking the intelligence reports is nothing new in the intelligence community. The 50 intelligence analysts working at Central Command will be fired. The intelligence reports are finalized at a senior level to fits the needs of the policy maker or office of request. These final reports area directed to the policy makers through very specific specific channels. Prior being present to the policy maker, all reports are reviewed, if the report does not fit the desired outcome of the request it is retuned for editing changes that will satisfy the desired outcome of the request. In the future, read the works by Hues, Bennett, Tetlock, Garbo, Keegan, Hoffman, Hall, Hipp and Reinares on cooking the book in the various agencies. Senior analysts at Central Command have doctored and bleached reports since day one of the fool’s administration.
isis has been in China and Russia’s back door for some time.

@Greg:

Basically, that’s a crazy theory. Anyone deliberately preventing accurate information affecting command decisions in a war zone from reaching the desk of the Commander in Chief would be committing treason.

You disagree with my assertion, then you go on to support it.

The war wasn’t won.

Really? So one wonders, then, why Obama and Biden both said it was, Iraq was stable and then pulled all US forces out. Hmmmm….. curious.

Suspecting that this story may be absolutely true is not that “lunatic”. Remember, it has been definitively proven that Obama and Hillary “cooked the books” on the Benghazi attack. The entire administration, though they had the facts about an organized terror attack on the consulate, decided to use the video tale as their explanation; a bold-face lie.

@Greg:

Anyone deliberately preventing accurate information affecting command decisions in a war zone from reaching the desk of the Commander in Chief would be committing treason.

Not if they are working under direct orders from the president to change the information to create a desired conclusive report.

You possibly can’t be as naive as you pretend to be. Really Greg, ditch the pretense and tell us who you’re working for. Who is it that is giving you your marching orders? Pelosi? Fienstien? Dirty Harry? The Huffington Post? Daily Kos? Who are you a tool for?

@Greg:

The war wasn’t won. We only eliminated a despot and set up a government and military that weren’t up to the job that the despot had previously been doing.

Sure it was. Obama said it was a success.

@Greg:

I suppose that puts me at odds with the Obama administration’s stated position on Assad. My thinking on that has changed. If we want to be rid of Assad, we had better make sure Syria is rid of ISIL first. ISIL has been revealed to be the greater evil.

Yes, Greg, and you know that’s what we’ve been saying for a long time. Mata and I were on the same page. The devil you know….

@Greg:

Basically, that’s a crazy theory. Anyone deliberately preventing accurate information affecting command decisions in a war zone from reaching the desk of the Commander in Chief would be committing treason.

These guys are furnishing the correct information. The guys at the top are doing Obama’s bidding in shaping that intel into what Obama is telling America.

You morons would rather start another was and sacrifice others children. You are traitors.

@drjohn: Did he declare ‘Mission Accomplished?’ I’m thankful Obama brought my son home before he was killed. Asshole.

@Greg: Putin will discover that intervention against Islamic jihadists carries a serious long-term cost. You would think the Russians would have learned from their experiences with Afghanistan and Chechnya. Perhaps Putin’s ego prevents him from seeing that. Perhaps he needs something to distract Russians from their problems at home. Maybe it’s a combination.

well considering that you have no idea of the fact that russia, romania, and other states worked together to make the islamic machine into their war machine. you can read this in some AUTO-biographies, defectors, confirmed releases of information and so on.

except for the left which always repeats the lies of the communist party, even when its position turns on a dime, the birth of these organizations was and is historically easy to determine came originally from russia, not the USA. just as the aids virus coming from US biowarfare labs was ADMITTED to be disinformatzia that worked its way from russia, to india, and to the popular press where leftists like farakhan still repeat the disinformation against their own country knowing that the leftists in front will never ever bother to actually do their own research or turn on their own memories in terms of listening to Gorbachev admit that is what happened!!! (Same throughout history and its a long list going back at least as far as Bently, and the Molotov Ripptrop pact and the CPUSA having to change on a dime).

As far back as 1969, Andropov introduced a new arrow into the KGB’s quiver: the hijacking of El Al airplanes. Andropov had begun his unprecedented 15 years as KGB chairman just a few months before the 1967 Six-Day Arab-Israeli War, in which Israel humiliated the Soviet Union’s most important allies in the Arab world at that time – Egypt and Syria. In those days, the governments of those two countries were in effect being run by Soviet advisers.

Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa

Before 1969 came to an end, Palestinian terrorists, trained at the KGB’s Balashikha special-operations school east of Moscow, had hijacked their first El Al plane and landed it in Algeria, where its 32 Jewish passengers were held hostage for five weeks. The hijacking had been planned and coordinated by the KGB’s Thirteenth Department, known in Soviet bloc intelligence jargon as the Department for Wet Affairs (wet being a KGB euphemism for bloody). To conceal the KGB’s hand, Andropov had the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (created and financed by the KGB) take credit for the hijacking. During the next two years, various Palestinian terrorists (trained by the KGB) took credit for hijacking 13 Israeli and Western passenger planes and for blowing up a Swissair plane in flight, killing 47 passengers and crew. All these hijackings were masterminded by the KGB.

their training and facilitation of terrorism and control of oil in the gulf states to prop up their own money making (given russia makes very little anyone wants in export other than raw materials), is well known and legendary. except to leftists who under the orders of their leaders do not pay attention or pish tosh it in favor of lying about US involvment (As if having the people that do that kind of thing as their state leaders would be a vast improvment over their victims)

In 1971, Andropov unleashed operation “Tayfun” (Russian for “typhoon”), aimed at expanding his anti-American terrorism into Western Europe as well. He even established a “socialist division of labor” to mobilize the whole Soviet bloc in support of his new international terrorism. The Czechoslovakian intelligence service was charged with supplying an odorless plastic explosive (Semtex-H) that could not be detected by sniffer dogs at airports. In 1990, Czech president Vaclav Havel acknowledged that the former communist regime of his country had secretly shipped 1,000 tons of this odorless plastic explosive to Palestinian and Libyan terrorists. According to Havel, a mere 200 grams was enough to blow up a commercial plane in flight.

Remember, the head deviate of the Clinton family did not go to college in the USA or serve in Vietnam, as he went to soviet russia for his education (under fulbright who has been investigated several times for espionage)

According to secret documents discovered in the Stasi (the KGB’s East German counterpart) archives after the fall of the Berlin Wall, in 1983 alone the Stasi provided secret terrorist organizations in West Germany with $1,877,600 worth of AK-47 ammunition.

they are still using such weapons and explosives, and you can find articles in russian discussing how they failed when they recruited islamics in afghanistan to pose as loyal rebels but to do soviet bidding.

The Cubans were charged with mass-producing concealment devices for smuggling the plastic explosive into the target countries. In 1972, I spent a “working vacation” in Havana as the guest of Raul Castro, at that time the head of Cuba’s military and security forces, and I visited what proved to be the Soviet bloc’s largest factory for manufacturing double-walled suitcases and other concealment devices for use in secretly infiltrating weapons into various non-Communist countries. Sergio del Valle, head of the Cuban security forces, told me that smuggling arms to terrorist organizations was one of his main jobs at that time.

and this

In August 1998, two months after Andropov pupil and former KGB general Yevgeny Primakov became Russia’s prime minister, Gen. Albert Makashov, a member of the Duma, alleged that the Jews were being paid by American Zionism to ruin the Russian motherland, and he called for the “extermination of all Jews in Russia.” Over and over again, Russian television screens showed him screaming at the Duma: “I will round up all the Yids [pejorative for Jews] and send them to the next world.”

Socialists hating jews because of Marx jewish question makes antisemitism a part of socialism (whether the rubes think otherwise to allow themselves to support it or not).

from hitlers dealling with the mullas, to fdr trading the leftovers of hitler to stalin at yalta, to the whole of the cold war and post cold war, its the same GREAT GAME as they soviets called it.

by the way, sitting next to me right at this moment is one of those russian jews who fled the primikov era and was greatly harmed. the ex soviets i work with tend to hate the regime that treated their families for what is now generations, and tend to think people like you greg are the biggest idiots in mankinds history, given you WANT such deprivation and believe it will be otherwise. i hear they are arresting milk smugglers in venezuela for not letting mothers with children let the kids die of malnutrition and so on.. yeah they make money smuggling, but its milk, not cocaine.

one last post by the same author and i can then move on to DOZENS of others that tell a story that the american left ignores as people and whose leaders refuse to acknowlege in their games of lies gainst people like greg, who they deem to be like toilet paper, you use it, cover it with sh*t, and toss it away once your done

On Dec. 31, 1999, Vladimir Putin – at one time the KGB counterpart of my old self – who a few months earlier had maneuvered to become Russia’s prime minister, enthroned himself in the Kremlin as supreme leader, following a KGB palace coup. Whereupon Boris Yeltsin, Russia’s first freely elected president, ceded the field and on national TV announced his resignation: “I understand that I must do it,” he said, “and Russia must enter the new millennium with new politicians, with new faces, with new intelligent, strong, energetic people.” Yeltsin then signed a decree transferring his power to Putin. For his part, Putin signed a decree pardoning Yeltsin – who was said to be involved in huge bribery scandals – “for any possible misdeeds” and granting him “total immunity” from being prosecuted (or even searched and questioned) for “any and all” actions committed while in office. Putin also gave Yeltsin a lifetime pension and a state dacha. Quid pro quo, as we would say.

During the Cold War, the KGB was a state within a state. Under President Putin, the KGB, rechristened the FSB, is the state. Three years after Putin plunked himself down on the Kremlin throne, some 6,000 former officers of the KGB – that organization responsible for having slaughtered at least 20 million people in the Soviet Union alone – were running Russia’s federal and local governments. Nearly half of all other top governmental positions were held by former officers of the KGB. Having taken care of that, the newly appointed President Putin brought back good old Stalin’s national anthem, which had been prohibited since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Although the “new” anthem did have new lyrics, they had been written by the same old poet, Sergey Mikhalkov, who had written the original words praising Stalin, Lenin, the Communist Party and the “unbreakable” Soviet Union. Yelena Bonner, the widow of Nobel Peace Prize winner Andrey Sakharov, called the revived Soviet anthem a “profanation of history.” Putin disagreed, saying: “We have overcome the differences between the past and the present.”

On Feb. 12, 2004, Putin declared the demise of the Soviet Union a “national tragedy on an enormous scale,” and in July 2007, he predicted a new Cold War against the West.

“War has started,” Putin announced on Aug. 8, 2008, just minutes after President George W. Bush and other world leaders, gathered in Beijing to watch the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games, were shocked and surprised to learn that Russian tanks had rolled across the Russian border into Georgia.

on this the anniversary of 9/11, maybe you ought to learn what your supporting… and learn that what it is, is so bad, that it could never be honest with you. EVER… experience is a harsh teacher, she gives the test and then you learn the lesson… but by then, its too late…

you need a bit more experiene in the world greg, but i would never wish, even on you, the kind of experiences that give one the knowlege that such ex soviets and others know and watch the useful idiots pretend the opposite. A fool has to learn from that horror by experiencing it themselves, a wise man would learn from others.

but this is why the people on the bottom that support such things are fools, and why the left leaders see them as useless. after all, what else can you do with people so stupid as to happly enslave themselves like sheep who build a slaughterhouse themselves and then run into it thinking its wonderful? think on that… how much respect would you have for people THAT STUPID that serve you?

oh, and just so you dont say who is he:
Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa
a former three-star general in the Securitate, the secret police of Communist Romania, who defected to the United States in July 1978 following President Jimmy Carter’s approval of his request for political asylum. He is the highest-ranking defector from the former Eastern Bloc

At the time of his defection, General Pacepa simultaneously had the rank of advisor to President Nicolae Ceauşescu, acting chief of his foreign intelligence service and a state secretary of Romania’s Ministry of Interior.

Ceauşescu brags in his autobiography that he was the man who invented using planes as missiles and weapons of terrorism..

keep asking greg and i will then list out the various others who have linked the creation of ISIL and other such things to the soviets and to the american leftists (democrats etc), and their games. its WELL known except by the useful foolish rubes who support them and refuse to question or think on their own (while pretending that following the spravka and party line is thinking in their own. granddad who survived hitler and stalin warned me about people like that, they are so dangerous. after all how many “good” germans turned in jews only to find out years later what they did to their fellow man?)

During the Cold War, more people worked for dezinformatsiya than for the whole Soviet army and defense industry put together. Few outsiders knew about it, because it was submerged in secrecy. This secret practice and this invisible disinformation army were revived under Putin’s presidency, as described in great detail
Totalitarianism always requires a tangible enemy, and the United States, which during the 47 years of Cold War was portrayed by the KGB as its “Main Enemy,” has continued to be painted by the Putin administration as the country’s principal foe.

while american leaders and leftists on the ground worship them as friends for the cause. No. they dont see you as friends, they see you as traitors to your own people who can never be trusted. after all, coming from such a great place to live and work, what fools such would be to want what the socialists offer!!!

A traitor to his own people is not a member of the opposition who sees them as such, and knows that once they know what it is they are and have helped make, would turn on a time.

after all, its in Sergey Nechayev’s The Revolutionary Catechism (1869_. which also mentions how womens movement is a whole other fools front of their work. and this from the early 1900s.

bet you dont read that stuff, eh? you havent actually read marx, or gramsci’s books, or the others… you basically parrot what side of the football stadium you ike based on the lies they tell you and never ever sharpen your tools of discernment that would discover the ruse your in.

us ex soviets and others HAD to read all that, even if we didnt grow up in the soviet union. after all, our parents and grandparents knew up close what your up against, and can live in either world.

here is what should be an eye opener from 1869, the section The Relations of the Revolutionary toward Society:

The revolutionary enters the world of the State, of the privileged classes, of the so-called civilization, and he lives in this world only for the purpose of bringing about its speedy and total destruction. He is not a revolutionary if he has any sympathy for this world. He should not hesitate to destroy any position, any place, or any man in this world. He must hate everyone and everything in it with an equal hatred. All the worse for him if he has any relations with parents, friends, or lovers; he is no longer a revolutionary if he is swayed by these relationships.

yeah… you follow the ideology of human deprivation and hate hate hate… but you dont know it, as you never read what they write for each other… only what they write for YOU… and since they need you to waste your life energy on their projects not your own life, well, why would they tell someone the truth unless that someone was actually a part of things?

ie. how can you use people if you tell them the truth about their being used

here is why so many democrats are so dirty:

The third category consists of a great many brutes in high positions, distinguished neither by their cleverness nor their energy, while enjoying riches, influence, power, and high positions by virtue of their rank. These must be exploited in every possible way; they must be implicated and embroiled in our affairs, their dirty secrets must be ferreted out, and they must be transformed into slaves. Their power, influence, and connections, their wealth and their energy, will form an inexhaustible treasure and a precious help in all our undertakings.

here is why feminism is eugenics and causing below replacement births in the target groups (facilitating the need for borders to be open so that the rubes (you) dont figure out what the population should be as you wont look carefully at the numbers and wont double check the people who inform you like a good party member)

The sixth category is especially important: women. They can be divided into three main groups. First, those frivolous, thoughtless, and vapid women, whom we shall use as we use the third and fourth category of men. Second, women who are ardent, capable, and devoted, but whom do not belong to us because they have not yet achieved a passionless and austere revolutionary understanding; these must be used like the men of the fifth category. Finally, there are the women who are completely on our side – i.e., those who are wholly dedicated and who have accepted our program in its entirety. We should regard these women as the most valuable or our treasures; without their help, we would never succeed.

hey, ever wonder why there are so many confessions of leftists saying how bad they were and now that they have confessed its in the open and they are better?

The fifth category consists of those doctrinaires, conspirators, and revolutionists who cut a great figure on paper or in their cliques. They must be constantly driven on to make compromising declarations: as a result, the majority of them will be destroyed, while a minority will become genuine revolutionaries.

now remember this is from 1869 and he even mentions you and others of the “liberal” classes

The fourth category comprises ambitious office-holders and liberals of various shades of opinion. The revolutionary must pretend to collaborate with them, blindly following them, while at the same time, prying out their secrets until they are completely in his power. They must be so compromised that there is no way out for them, and then they can be used to create disorder in the State.

see? they been planning and refining the plan in how to do things to you since 1869…. by 2015 they are a lot better at it, but its the same old same old plan. and the only reason you are tricked is your own ignorance and blind acceptance of the lies and the “dream that will never die” – yes i am quoting the lion of the dems who was discovered to be working with the KGB… its quite famous in how he was protected from prosecution for that minor boating accident with his car, and ever since, been in their hip pocket. You did know that he worked with the KGB, yes? you can look it up… they rely on the fact you wont and will instead attack me to supress what proves you a fool and would cause you to fall a great distance in terms of how you think of yourself – better to not do that, eh?

@Reem: Obama and the mindless drones that support him in the face of so much evidence of ineptitude, incompetence and overall lack of concern for the well-being of others are who are guaranteeing another, more devastating, war. You idiot.

Did he declare ‘Mission Accomplished?’

Yes. Yes, he did.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/146912-obama-2011-leaving-behind-stable-self-reliant-iraq/

Stupid. Now, if you have them, you can look forward to your grandchildren fighting another war, in addition to possibly seeing a nation attacked with nuclear weapons. Fool.

@Bill:

Stupid. Now, if you have them, you can look forward to your grandchildren fighting another war, in addition to possibly seeing a nation attacked with nuclear weapons. Fool.

Him passing his genes on is a very scary thought.

@Bill, #22:

Remember, it has been definitively proven that Obama and Hillary “cooked the books” on the Benghazi attack.

Uh, no, that has never been proved, and attaching the adjective “definitely” to the assertion makes it no less a false statement. Multiple in-depth Congressional investigations failed to find any evidence of wrongdoing on the part of anyone in the Obama administration, and have formally stated that in the conclusions of their published Congressional reports.

That failure to find anything is most inconvenient with an election year coming up, so the GOP has mounted yet another investigation, this one being Benghazi Investigation #7. I’m guessing it will only become a center ring act if the absurd email scandal fails to damage Hillary Clinton sufficiently to cause her drop out of the race.

Apparently (I say that because Obama droned on for 1 hour 24 + minutes) Obama has finally admitted that Muslims in one’s population cause problems!
Obama was a a military town hall meeting being all critical of Vladamir Putin for supporting Assad in Syria.
He admitted why…..
“They [the Russians] are threatened in may ways more than we are by ISIL. They’ve got a large Muslim populations that historically have caused a lot of problems inside of Russian,” Obama said.

Sheesh!
Snort your lunch, Obama?
Or never took to English because it’s a white man’s language?

Our poor excuse for a president can’t manage to get his sentences to agree internally…..when he’s off-teleprompter.
“They are threatened in may ways more than we are by ISIL. They’ve got a large Muslim populations that historically have caused a lot of problems inside of Russian,” Obama said.
Any grammar nannies here?

@Greg:

Uh, no, that has never been proved, and attaching the adjective “definitely” to the assertion makes it no less a false statement.

Uh, yes… it has. They had the facts of the attack, in real time, yet decided to replace the truth with a LIE about the attack being a protest over a video. Yeah, Greg… this has been confirmed. Now, they may not have had enough facts to go out that weekend on all the news programs to state, definitively, that it was an al Qaeda attack, but NOTHING indicated that the attack was a protest… so why promote THAT line? Why? Because they are liars and lying is always their first response.

The fact that we have investigation after investigation merely reflects the level to which Obama and Hillary have stonewalled the release of information. Only now do we have additional information from Hillary’s email stash that will raise new questions. Since Obama and Hillary are never honest and forthcoming, it takes longer to confirm the truth…. which we actually already know. And which you apply weak and silly excuses in order to deny.

Too late to add it in the above post (#34) but….
At the 32 minute mark on this video Obama says Muslims cause problems in Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_YJzC7YcQ&feature=youtu.be
To my knowledge this is the only time Obama has admitted MUSLIMS are the cause of problems.
Not ”radical extremists.”
Muslims.

Well DUH!! Have u seen how many Muslim Brotherhood are IN the White House?? And in high places??? Can’t wait for this idiot to be GONE!!