–Secretary of State John Kerry, who served
Apparently 300,000-400,000 turned out for the People’s Climate March in New York City, Sunday.
NEW YORK — More than 300,000 people marched through the streets of New York City on Sunday in what organizers called the largest climate-change demonstration in history.
With banners, flags, floats and drums, protesters at the “People’s Climate March” overwhelmed midtown Manhattan in flocks of vivid color, demanding action ahead of the United Nations Climate Summit this week.
And as typically seems to be the case, the aftermath belies the message espoused.
Noah Rothman at Hot Air has the scoop:
“We live in a grotesque era where we have everything we want right now,” one protester told Foster, graciously packaging her entire movement up in one self-hating nutshell.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZlsKvOkHIY[/youtube]
There appear to be two strains of protesters who attended the People’s March. Some cling desperately to the ideals of Marx and who repeat rhetoric and slogans which have largely remained unchanged since the Rutherford B. Hayes administration. These folks ironically consider themselves “progressives.” The other strain of protester who spoke with Foster seemed lost, misplaced, left behind in a world which no longer made much sense.
It is a condition as old as time; the aimless in search of personal meaning complement the ranks of a movement which promises personal purpose. The revolution is over, but the tragically committed revolutionaries persist.
What Foster uncovered in New York City was what so many on the right have known for years, but the public rarely sees. The modern climate alarmism movement has been hijacked by the remnants of those who still adhere to the defunct tenets of revolutionary Marxism. It is no wonder, then, that so few climate change devotees in government and the media go out of their way to make sure you never hear from their grassroots supporters.
And today:
NEW YORK, Sept 22 (Reuters) – Hundreds of protesters plan to risk arrest on Monday during an unsanctioned blockade in New York City’s financial district to call attention to what organizers say is Wall Street’s contribution to climate change.
~~~ Flood Wall Street organizers said they wanted to use the momentum gained by Sunday’s march to “highlight the role of capitalism in fueling the climate crisis.”
I remember attending a couple of anti-war rallies in Los Angeles. These protests were full of fringies spouting all sorts of sideshow agendas that had little to nothing at all to do with what the rally was organized for.
A former fetus, the “wordsmith from nantucket” was born in Phoenix, Arizona in 1968. Adopted at birth, wordsmith grew up a military brat. He achieved his B.A. in English from the University of California, Los Angeles (graduating in the top 97% of his class), where he also competed rings for the UCLA mens gymnastics team. The events of 9/11 woke him from his political slumber and malaise. Currently a personal trainer and gymnastics coach.
The wordsmith has never been to Nantucket.
@retire05 #348:
“The FBI reported ONE murder in 2012 that was listed as an “anti male homosexual” crime. How many police officers were shot in the year 2012 in the line of duty.”
Two wrongs don’t make a right any more than X+1 wrongs make a right. How many police were shot is irrelevant.
Three different quotations of scripture could not have been researched and typed simultaneously. Each one was typed in a temporal sequence, one following another. SUBMITTED all at the same time (practically speaking) but each verse quoted at different times.
Would it have made you feel better if I had said:
Retire05 has sunk to a new low. She is now quoting Scripture, for want of a better argument against gay people. In lieu of flowers, please send rotten tomatoes to George Wells. ???
@George+Wells:
Yeah, yeah, what ever you say, George. Except they were in one post, and I have never quoted Scriptures before, and you damn well know it. How dishonest you are.
And do you also believe that the number of homosexual men (ONE) murdered in 2012 is also irrelevant? I doubt that. You are fixated on being a sodomist and it controls your every thought and opinion. How sad.
@Redteam #351:
“I don’t know of any case where a burglar robbed someone because they loved them.”
That’s interesting, because I don’t know of any case where a burglar robbed someone because he hated them. Does that mean that there is no such thing as “burglary”? No. It means that “Burglars” steal stuff because they want or need stuff that they don’t have and don’t want to work to earn.
BTW, Robbers rob people, not burglars. Burglars burgle homes, stealing the contents of the homes. Robbers take things from YOU.
@George+Wells:
Perhaps you can point out where I said burglars robbed people? Now your dealing in semantics.
Up your meds, George.
@retire05 #353:
“How many police were shot is irrelevant.”
“And do you also believe that the number of homosexual men (ONE) is also irrelevant?”
How many police were shot is irrelevant to the question of whether or not gay people have been murdered for being gay. You proved that they have been.
The fact that police have been murdered in the line of duty does not mitigate the fact that you proved. It is irrelevant to the question of whether or not gay people are murdered for being gay.
And the fact that the FBI REPORTED one case does not mean that other similar cases did not occur. It only means that no other cases were reported to the FBI, or that the other cases that WERE reported to the FBI failed to meet their criteria for reporting them as hate crimes.
@George+Wells:
So quoting Scriptures is sinking to a new low? Believe me, George, I could be at 40,000 leagues and I would still now be as low as you.
But then, I guess you didn’t like the Scriptures I quoted since it clearly says that you are doomed to suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
@retire05 # 355:
“Perhaps you can point out where I said burglars robbed people?”
Wake up, darling.
Read it again:
@Redteam #351:
“I don’t know of any case where a burglar robbed someone because they loved them.”
That’s Redteam’s quote, AS I INDICATED.
I did NOT quote YOU.
@George+Wells:
I have never met someone who has more excuses than you do, George.
Like I said before, being gay controls your life. You are fixated on it. And that, George, is the definition of a mental illness. How sad.
@George+Wells:
OK, I accept your apology.
@retire05 #357:
“But then, I guess you didn’t like the Scriptures I quoted since it clearly says that you are doomed to suffer the punishment of eternal fire.”
You are correct. I don’t much like the Bible, because the good stuff in it is so diluted by crap that is outrageously wrong, and people generally have a very hard time telling the two apart.
If I truly did believe that I would suffer eternal damnation and Hellfire, and I none-the-less failed to repent, that WOULD be proof that I WAS mentally ill, now wouldn’t it. And then you WOULD be guilty of persecuting a mentally ill person, in spite of KNOWING that he was insane. You feel GOOD about that?
@retire05 #360:
Good night.
@George+Wells:
The New Testament is the life, and words, of Christ. How can you not like His words, although you proclaim to believe in Him?
No, it would only prove that you put your mortal status before your soul. And that you are really a non-believer.
BTW, George, how many sisters do you have?
@George+Wells:358
Nope, you still got it wrong. Redteam is NOT the one that said that about burglars. You need to get your quotes straight.
@Redteam: #332
Your formula could apply to anything. If most people belong to a certain political party, then they are normal, and the rest are abnormal. If there are more females than men, then they are normal, and the rest are abnormal.
I have never gotten a good answer about if being born gay is a sin, what about the thousands of babies each year that are born half female and half male. They have all of the parts of both, and all of the emotions of both. The doctors can change the outside, but they can’t change the inside. How sinful are these people?
I have a simple philosophy I go by: I don’t judge anybody until I actually meet them, or have learned enough about them to decide what I think about them. It is a simple formula, but it works for me. If I don’t like somebody, it is because I met them, talked to them, and don’t like their attitude. I judge a person by their INSIDE, not their outside.
As I have mentioned different times: Only religions want us to hate the act of being gay. Let me think back: Isn’t this a tactic used by people who eventually became rulers of a country? Get the people to hate a certain group, so the person or people can do what they want to take over the country, while the people are hating each other. Is it possible that religions are also doing this? Just a thought.
I will leave it like I usually do when a disagreement starts. I ain’t going to change you, and you ain’t going to change me. I accept that fact.
@Redteam: #334
I long time ago I mentioned that over the years I have heard about men and women coming out and admitting that they are gay. As I remember, every one of them said they knew there was something different about them as they got older, and liked the same sex, instead of the opposite sex.
Since being gay is a sin, or whatever you want to call it, they hid their desires; even going so far as to get married and have kids. Some of them got caught cheating on their parters with the same sex, and the marriage was over. If kids are involved, this is devastating to them, especially if they are young.
This is why we need to accept people the way they are: Straight, gay, bisextual, cross-dresser, etc. Just like nobody gets to choose what color they will be born, or what nationality, we don’t get to choose the other stuff either.
@retire05 #359:
“I have never met someone who has more excuses than you do, George.”
And I have never met someone who refuses to stop pressing her lies after they have been disproven more than you do.
So what?
@retire05 #363:
“The New Testament is the life, and words, of Christ.”
…As remembered and embellished as they were by imperfect men who may or may not have actually heard Jesus speak, and as they were later translated and re-written by MORE imperfect men who had a vested interest in preserving their own base of power in the Church by ironing out all of the theological inconsistencies presented in the numerous “books” on the subject, some of which eventually were selected for inclusion in the modern Bible and some of which were not.
“George, how many sisters do you have?”
Curious question. Two younger brothers, no sisters. I am the least male of my mother’s three children.
@Redteam #364:
“Nope, you still got it wrong. Redteam is NOT the one that said that about burglars. You need to get your quotes straight. ”
Sorry Redteam. I stand corrected.
When I pointed out the error that Retire had made in her post addressed to you (#351) ” I don’t know of any case where a burglar robbed someone because they loved them.”, she denied ever having said it (in her #355) “Perhaps you can point out where I said burglars robbed people?”
so I thought that I had erred and that it was actually your quote. I just checked and saw that Retire05 had lied, and that it really WAS her error, not yours.
My honest mistake, her intentional lie. I wonder which is worse?
@Redteam: As you know I had Auburn to win so 1-2. As N.D. FAN I root against S.C. With big upsets they should move up to 5 or 6. Incredible 4th down last minute win led to excessive celebration penalty on me. Did you have em as 2 point dog?
See you are still wasting time on here.
@George+Wells:
And what lies are you accusing me of, George? Be specific. Go back in time, and link to my lies. Quote them precisely.
@Smorgasbord:
Let me take this one at a time: first, children born with both genitalia, vulva and penis, approximately 1/5,000, one is usually more predominant than the other. But science has shown that the internal reproductive organs are generally favorable to one sex or another. That is why early reconstructive surgery is no longer recommended. The appropriate sex takes time to determine as children continue to grow. Secondly, there is NO sound scientific data that people are born gay. Gays are not people who share dual genitalia. They are soundly men, or women, by all scientific and medical standards. Also, while those of faith believe the act of homosexuality is a sin, it is the act that is condemned, not the person. You know, that whole “hate the sin, love the sinner” kind of thing?
Which poses the question; if a person has spent a good deal of their lives thinking they are gay, are they capable of “coming out” as heterosexuals? And if so, doesn’t it pose the question why so few do?
Yet, it is politically incorrect to speak ill of these people who destroyed the lives of their children. Why is that? Is it not the responsibility of us, as a society, to shun those who harm children?
Shall we also accept pedophilia, incest, or those who are sexually attracted to children in their late teens if they simply claim to have been born that way? Also, skin tone is determined by one’s DNA. Can you say that there is a DNA marker for homosexuality?
@<a href="http://floppingaces.net/2014/09/22/what-is-the-climate-change-movement-really-all-aboRichard Wheeler:
If you check, this is my first message today. This line is getting nowhere, except for our comments back and forth about the games. Don’t know if you’re familiar with ESPN’s college pickem, but it’s not weighted. I just picked ND to win, no points. It’s just a pick of 10 games win or lose, but with a confidence of 1-10. My confidence on ND game was 1, so that doesn’t make them an overwhelming favorite. The one that burned me the most was I had Oklahoma for 10 points. While I also was wrong on the LSU game, it was only 3 points. I finished first in my league for yesterday. Whereas I missed only two, everyone else missed at least 5.
@Smorgasbord:365
True Smorg, but I didn’t invent the field of statistics. Even if you take 100 abnormal people and survey them on one characteristic and 95% of them share a characteristic, that will be the norm, the other 5% would be outside the norm, or abnormal.
If by ‘most’ you mean 51%, then that, statistically speaking, does not establish a norm. Has to be about 95% or so to make it a ‘norm’.
I don’t think you’ve asked me that question because I don’t ever think I’ve put homosexuality into a ‘sin’ category.
One reason I don’t is just what you said. I think, and I’m just guessing that about 50-70% of the gays are ‘born that way’ and have no choice in whether they are or are not. So that can’t be a sin. I don’t know what % of babies are born with both sex organs, as you said. But I am thankful that I wasn’t and that none of my children, grandchildren or great grandchildren have been born that way. I’ve often said I believe that there is a scale and that one end is 100% female, the other is 100% male and that babies are born all along that scale. Most thankfully at either end, but many are 50-50. Unfortunately some boys are born on the girl end and vice versa. On the other hand, some are born 100% male but choose to prefer other males. That may be getting into the ‘sin’ category. If people want to do that, it’s up to them. I have my own list of sins, so I’ll leave them alone.
@Smorgasbord: more on 365
I think that’s what’s going on with the gay deal and the illegal aliens deal. the Libs are using them to pit against the conservatives as a vote buying gimmick. If it were not for Dimocrats, you’d never hear about gays or illegal aliens, it just wouldn’t be an issue.
@Redteam:
It is not being homosexual that is considered a sin. It is acting on that homosexuality that is considered a sin in the eyes of most religions. It is also a sin to steal, and while you may have dreams of robbing the bank, if you don’t steal, you have not committed the sin of theft.
Estimates are one in 5,000. You can do the percentages.
@retire05:
I’d agree with that. Just as having sex with your wife is not a sin, but having sex with someone else’s wife is a sin. But I do think that someone that is born with 100% proclivity to be gay, it would be extremely hard to go against that natural inclination for a whole lifetime.
@Redteam: You are saying in YOUR, not our, pool you picked against Alabama and A&M STRAIGHT UP. I know your 2 loses and N.D win–Who were your other 5 winners?
@Redteam:
Read this:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/yes_gay_is_a_choice_get_over_it.html
@Smorgasbord #365 & @Redteam #374:
“I have never gotten a good answer about if being born gay is a sin” (From Smorgasbord)
Who did you ask?
Do you think that the answer that you got from another person would be a “good” answer?
The Bible didn’t say anything at all about being born “gay”, right?
And the last time I looked for one, I didn’t find a recording of God’s opinion on the matter.
So on the question of whether or not people ARE sometimes born gay, God and “inspired” company is silent.
So there ALSO isn’t any word from the All-High on whether “sin” is involved in being born gay, either.
You have to find the answer to that question yourself, in your own heart, or get it from any other imperfect human who steps up to the plate for the purpose of INFORMING YOU of who has sinned and who hasn’t.
How do you think that’s gonna work?
” You SINNED!”
“No, YOU sinned!”
“Well, you sinned MORE!”
“But YOUR sins were WORSE!”
And on and on, the second most favorite pastime of “religious” malcontents who are really nothing more than children who happened to have aged.
They still like the same foods that they got familiar with when they were little, and their favorite color hasn’t changed. They’re still thrilled by going fast, and they’re still afraid of the things that they don’t understand. They have absorbed a lot of information along the way, and also a lot of misinformation.
Do you really think that they have a good chance of telling you ANYTHING CORRECT about “sin”?
Since the concept of “sin” is so inextricably connected to God, and since it is HE who is the final judge in all matters pertaining to “sin,” why would lowly, flawed humans presume to act on God’s behalf regarding the “sins” of their fellow lowly, flawed humans? And they do.
Is God too busy to punish sinners?
Did HE leave a note telling someone to “Take care of this “sin” stuff while I’m gone”?
Or is all of this “You SINNED!” “No YOU sinned!” stuff just a bunch of grown up children pointing their self-righteous fingers at one another and giving themselves holier-than-thou goose-bumps in the process?
I think it’s the latter.
I’m smart enough to understand that judging “sin” is none of my business or anyone else’s here on Earth.
So you won’t get an answer to your question about “sin” from me. But you could ask Retire05. She has infinitely more experience with “sin” than the rest of us. I’ve heard that she channels Jesus’s second cousin twice removed, and she even hiccups in Aramaic.
She’d be your “go-to” person for answers to questions about “sin”.
href=”http://floppingaces.net/2014/09/22/what-is-the-climate-change-movement-really-all-about/comment-page-8/#comment-458064″>RICH WHEELER:
#4Oklahoma Sooners(4-1)vs TCU
Virginia Tech Hokies(4-2)vsNorth Carolina Tar Heels(2-3)
Pittsburgh Panthers(3-3)vsVirginia Cavaliers(4-2)
Miami (FL) Hurricanes(3-3)vsGeorgia Tech Yellow Jackets(5-0)
#3Alabama Crimson Tide(4-1) vs#11Ole Miss Rebels(5-0)
#15LSU Tigers(4-2)vs#5Auburn Tigers(5-0)
#14Stanford Cardinal(3-2)vs#9Notre Dame Fighting Irish(5-0)
#19Nebraska Cornhuskers(5-1)vs#10Michigan State Spartans(4-1)
California Golden Bears(4-1)2vsWashington State Cougars(2-4)
#6Texas A&M Aggies(5-1)vs#12Mississippi State Bulldogs(5-0)
I only missed the Oklahoma game and LSU game.
here is a link, if it’ll show it.
http://games.espn.go.com/college-football-pickem/2014/en/entry?entryID=174167@<a
@George+Wells: #380
In my church going days I noticed that preachers like to quote from the Old Testament. I have read the Bible through once, and it says that Jesus came to FULFILL the Old Testament, and that if people follow him, they are no longer under the Old Testament rules. To me, this means that Christians should follow ONY the New Testament, and forget about the Old Testament. You choose only one, and go by it’s teachings.
When you mentioned things that ARE NOT in the Bible, you reminded me of a preacher who said he was asked if oral sex is OK. His answer was that he can’t find anything about it in the Bible, so he has no opinion on it. Too many religions add their stuff to what they want followers to believe.
All I am trying to say is that being gay is not a choice. Nobody has ever said to themselves, “I think I will try this gay thing and see if I like it.”
Too many people use a religion to make themselves feel like they are above other people. I had a lousy childhood, and religion made me feel that way. I could always fall back on religion when nobody else was there.
I quit worrying about who is sinning a long time ago. I go by moral standards that have nothing to do with religion, and my conscience won’t let me do or say things I hear devout religions people do and say.
I have had many religious conversations with FA commenters, and Retire05 tried to convert me, but I still don’t want anything to do with anything that tries to tell me what to hate if I don’t want to hate it.
The best thing you can do is what the blacks, orientals, and other groups had to do when they came to America: Just be the best person you can be.
@retire05: Good article in that link, but, I’d say it only applies to that one person. I don’t see how he can be so confused about himself his entire lifetime yet be so sure that ‘someone else’ is not gay, but only chooses to be that way. I’m sure that had he not become, according to him, exclusively heterosexual he would not be writing that article.
I think there are several subjects within the sexuality category. I think there is a whole lot of difference in being born gay and choosing a gay lifestyle because it is just what you prefer.
I can mostly only relate to me and persons I actually know. I think there is a huge difference between someone ‘born gay’ and someone that chooses to do gay activities for a reason. I can say that I was born 100% straight. When I look at a woman and her body, I have sexual thoughts. When I look at a man and/or his body, I DO NOT have sexual thoughts. I usually will not avoid looking at a woman if I get the chance, I will usually avoid looking at another man. But there are too many people I’ve known in my lifetime that were born gay. They might not choose to have sex with the same sex, but they usually also will not choose to have sex with the opposite sex. They are condemned to either enjoy sexual relations with the same sex or none at all. A lifetime is a long time to choose ‘neither’.
I do not agree with that author that being gay is a choice. I think being gay is a fact of birth. Choosing to do any sexual activity is a choice. Fortunately for me, the sex I choose has not been labeled a sin, but unfortunately for a ‘born gay’ the sex they might ‘naturally’ choose has been labeled as a sin. I’m glad I’m not the one having to make a choice.
The thing that bothers me about gays is that they (the active ones) want to make it so that I have to cater to their lifestyle whether I choose to or not. If I’m baking wedding cakes and a woman comes in barefooted and I don’t want to serve her, I don’t have to. If a gay guy comes in and I don’t want to serve him, I have to. They are not entitled to special treatment because they are gay.
@Smorgasbord:
I am not an evangelist, so why would I want to convert you to anything and I would most certainly like you to prove that claim. What you choose to do is your business but the First Amendment still allows me to say what I believe and what I feel.
You should hate no one. Although I doubt you hold much love for the guy who just beheaded the woman in Oklahoma.
@retire05: #372
Maybe because the rest of the gays see what happens when someone “comes out” and they don’t want it to happen to them. Look how many people have been murdered just because someone hated them being gay.
I wasn’t referring to physical harm. I was referring to kids having to grow up in a broken family, and trying to understand why Daddy left them for another man, or Mommy left them for another woman. Try to explain that to young children.
I believe these people too don’t CHOOSE to be this way. It is somehow in their DNA. When a crook commits a crime with a gun, the crook is disarmed. I think rapists and child molesters should also be disarmed after the first offense. It won’t stop them from wanting to do the act again, but it will stop them from actually doing it.
Can anyone say there isn’t? I don’t know if I coined this phrase, or if I heard it before: “If I’m going to be wrong, I want to be wrong in the right way.” If I am wrong, which way do I want to be wrong? I would rather be wrong in accepting them the way they are, than condemning them, then finding out that there is a reason they are gay. Until there is good proof that guys CHOOSE to be gay, I will believe they have no choice in the matter.
@Redteam:
Then where is the science that backs that up?
DNA screening can now tell if you have a predisposition toward cancer and other diseases. The markers are there. It can tell you what diseases your children will have a predisposition toward. So you’re going to tell me with all the money that has been spent on genetic/DNA research, no one, not even those with a vested interest, has found the gay gene? With the push to normalize homosexuality, I don’t buy it.
@Smorgasbord:
Yep, me too. If the sinning happens to include something illegal, I’m more concerned about the illegal part. If it is really a sin, God will take care of that.
About the controversy of OLD vs New Testatment. I’ve heard, as you said, that the New Testament is supposed to have superceded the Old testament.
Sounds like good advice and quit letting the libs use you to gain their objectives. They are not doing it to help the gays.
@Smorgasbord:
How is that anymore traumatic than being heterosexual for 45 years only to come out as being gay?
Neither was I. Emotionally abuse can, in fact, be even worse than physical abuse.
And you base that on what DNA research?
An opinion based on no sound scientific evidence.
@Redteam: #374
If the study is done again, there will probably be different numbers. It also would depend on where the people in the study live. This is why I don’t put much faith in first-time studies.
What group assigned that number?
All I have been saying is that I accept people the way they are, without letting other people or organizations tell me who I should like or dislike.
@Redteam: #375
It is like the magicians who draw your attention to one thing, when something else is going on another place.
@retire05:
Over the years, I’ve read much about why people are different, mostly because of their body chemistry and the neuro system that they happen to have wired into their brain. I believe that there are people that have been and are being born with a predilection for almost everything in the world. Such as pedophilia. Such as being a serial killer. Such as not having a conscious. In the case of a pedophile, surely people recognize that pedophilia is real. A person has an obsession with prepubescent children. If they act on it, it’s a crime. That doesn’t mean that they don’t desire to do it. Just that they can’t. Having gay sex is not a crime, so doing it is legally okay. I can’t judge sins, God retained that right for himself. I believe that God teaches that homosexuality is a sin. If it is, then the persons that engage will have to answer for that sin one day. As for me, God said: Judge not. If he said that, I’m gonna guess that ignoring what he said will be treated as a sin.
Read this:
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115
I’m not sure that each and every human activity has to be governed or caused by a gene. I think it can be as simple as a brain being wired incorrectly.
@retire05: #384
I was referring to the times I had conversations about religion that several commenter kept the conversation going, when I was just stating my opinion and wanted to leave it at that. Several, including you, wanted to keep the conversation going, but I didn’t. That is all that I meant.
If I said things the wrong way, I am sorry. Sometimes, when talking about religion, it reminds me of my mom, who went overboard on it. She never talked much about religion until I had moved away. Each time us kids would call her, or visit her, she went into preacher mode. She was also one of those who was always right if someone disagreed with her, and she would argue with anyone who disagreed with her, to the point that they didn’t want anything to do with her.
This could be one reason I do not like to argue with people. I would rather state my opinion, and if we disagree, and we both see that neither one of us will change, let’s change the subject. I will stand my ground if I disagree with someone, but I won’t let it get into an argument. I’m not insinuating that you argue, I was just making a general statement about conversations I have had throughout my life.
@Smorgasbord:
I don’t know if anyone assigned that number or any other. As I said, I’m not teaching a class in statistics, but I do remember from 50 years or so ago when I was in a college class of statistics that they talked about 1 std deviation and 2 etc. and that anything within some of those establised a ‘norm’ and anything outside was not within the ‘norm’.
LOL, I didn’t realize I said this was a ‘first-time’ study.
I don’t see how anyone could disagree with that. If someone is doing something illegal, that’s everyone’s business. If someone is committing a sin, that’s his business and God’s.
@retire05: #388
You mean like the SOUND global warming scientific evidence, or the SOUND scientific evidence from years ago that blacks were not as intelligent as whites, etc.?
As I have said different times, I don’t put much trust in first-time studies. I also want to know several things about the study:
(1)Who paid for it?
(2) Who did the study?
(3) How many other studies were done before this result was reported?
(4) If questions were involved in the study, what were the EXACT questions.
Too many times we find out that studies were flawed, because the ones paying for them wanted a certain result.
@Smorgasbord:
In fact, I would say that is the norm. Why would you want a study done unless you were interested in the outcome? Wouldn’t that likely be true of others that wanted a study done?
I do know that there is no sound scientific evidence that I’ve seen that proves global warming. I have seen reports of studies that show different levels of intelligence of different races. I don’t know if they’re true or not, but for some reason, when they show that Asians are more intelligent than whites, no one seems to question that, but when they show that whites are more intelligent than blacks, everyone seems to question that. I suspect most of those tests indicate education level, not intelligence. I know what my IQ is and I know what that means. I suppose most others are in the same boat.
Smorg, I remember once when I was interviewing for a job and I made the statement to the HR guy that I had very high mechanical ability/aptitude. He said that was very interesting because he had recently tested a BS Mech Eng with a mechanical aptitude test that showed that he had low mechanical aptitude and he thought the test might be wrong because obviously a Mech Eng should test good on that. Right? So he asked if I would mind taking the test just to see what it would show. It showed that I had very high mechanical aptitude. I would say that in that case, it wasn’t measuring education (I’m not a Mech Eng), but was measuring aptitude. Most IQ tests I have taken, I believe, tended to measure IQ and not education.
Climate change is real. It was 55 degrees last night and it’s up to 80 today.
Looks like George succeeded once again in his usual compulsive- obsessive goal of diverting conversations into yet another boring discussion about homosexuality.
The Troll wins and has been well fed.
@Redteam: I have never had an IQ test. I question the accuracy of them. If a kid grows up in the slums, goes to poor schools, and lived in a gang all of their life, how can their IQ be tested accurately? In my opinion, the test would have to be on made-up information to see how well the individual learn and process the information. As I have mentioned before, if we bring someone from an African tribe, and an Aborigine from the Outback in Australia, how well would they do on the test?
@Smorgasbord:
It is possible to keep a conversation going without thinking that the parties to the conversation are proselytizing or trying to convert someone.
Apology accepted (it takes a big person to admit they could possibly be wrong.) I thank you for that.
@Redteam: Would you explain why you would pick underdogs Ol Miss and Miss St to win straight up on Mon. and then pick against them to go 0-3 and lose to me on Sat?
Did you bet more than one ticket on Mon?