–Secretary of State John Kerry, who served
Apparently 300,000-400,000 turned out for the People’s Climate March in New York City, Sunday.
NEW YORK — More than 300,000 people marched through the streets of New York City on Sunday in what organizers called the largest climate-change demonstration in history.
With banners, flags, floats and drums, protesters at the “People’s Climate March” overwhelmed midtown Manhattan in flocks of vivid color, demanding action ahead of the United Nations Climate Summit this week.
And as typically seems to be the case, the aftermath belies the message espoused.
Noah Rothman at Hot Air has the scoop:
“We live in a grotesque era where we have everything we want right now,” one protester told Foster, graciously packaging her entire movement up in one self-hating nutshell.
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There appear to be two strains of protesters who attended the People’s March. Some cling desperately to the ideals of Marx and who repeat rhetoric and slogans which have largely remained unchanged since the Rutherford B. Hayes administration. These folks ironically consider themselves “progressives.” The other strain of protester who spoke with Foster seemed lost, misplaced, left behind in a world which no longer made much sense.
It is a condition as old as time; the aimless in search of personal meaning complement the ranks of a movement which promises personal purpose. The revolution is over, but the tragically committed revolutionaries persist.
What Foster uncovered in New York City was what so many on the right have known for years, but the public rarely sees. The modern climate alarmism movement has been hijacked by the remnants of those who still adhere to the defunct tenets of revolutionary Marxism. It is no wonder, then, that so few climate change devotees in government and the media go out of their way to make sure you never hear from their grassroots supporters.
And today:
NEW YORK, Sept 22 (Reuters) – Hundreds of protesters plan to risk arrest on Monday during an unsanctioned blockade in New York City’s financial district to call attention to what organizers say is Wall Street’s contribution to climate change.
~~~ Flood Wall Street organizers said they wanted to use the momentum gained by Sunday’s march to “highlight the role of capitalism in fueling the climate crisis.”
I remember attending a couple of anti-war rallies in Los Angeles. These protests were full of fringies spouting all sorts of sideshow agendas that had little to nothing at all to do with what the rally was organized for.
A former fetus, the “wordsmith from nantucket” was born in Phoenix, Arizona in 1968. Adopted at birth, wordsmith grew up a military brat. He achieved his B.A. in English from the University of California, Los Angeles (graduating in the top 97% of his class), where he also competed rings for the UCLA mens gymnastics team. The events of 9/11 woke him from his political slumber and malaise. Currently a personal trainer and gymnastics coach.
The wordsmith has never been to Nantucket.
@Redteam #441:
“why is the number of men and women getting married declining?”
Lots of reasons, I suspect. But gay marriage isn’t one of them, because the decline started long before any gays were allowed to get married.
” If those rights are worth marrying for, wouldn’t everyone that could get married to get them? ”
I guess not, but that doesn’t mean that those rights are insignificant. Those rights are certainly not the ONLY reason gays want to get married. They just sweeten the pot.
@Richard Wheeler:
assuming you’re referring to this;
If so, I mean ‘numerically higher’. I will not say that a numerically higher score indicates a more intelligent person.
I am surprised that your experiences in America indicate to you that blacks are equal in general intelligence to other races. I don’t know of any testing system on earth that would show that. If you do, I’d like a reference. I would even state that if the tests involved only things that relate to black persons and to the country of Africa and it were a multiple choice or T/F test that the whites would score higher. I am not stating that I think a higher score means higher intelligence.
@retire05 #446:
The passage you quoted does not apply to me. I have no children. Paul is my sole heir. The Virginia constitutional amendment regarding gay marriage specifically nullified my will. It is now overturned.
@George+Wells: 452
Kinda jumped to a conclusi0n there George.
My point again. You seem to be excited about these ‘legal rights’ you’re gonna get if you get married(I don’t remember if you’re already in a legal arrangement or not) and I said that they are not worth getting married over because if they were, more people would be getting married for the rights and that the rate of marriages are declining, not going up. So either the rights are better for homosexuals than for straights or the cases of both, marriages would be increasing. Seems as if it’s only a ‘purported right’ that the libs are using to get gays excited to vote for them. Fooling them again.
@George+Wells:
That’s something you had bought and paid for and now it’s no good. Piss poor lawyer you used, I’d say. Are you excited that your last will and testament were no good, you can’t do as you wish with what you worked and paid for?
@Redteam #447:
I went all the way back to your #417 to see where you were coming from. You started this line of questioning by asking about “murder” and “sin.” You later changed the parameters of the discussion by dropping the “sin” part and instead focusing on cheating and “feelings”.
OK. I don’t “like” cheating. Yes, I have “feelings” about it. But if your question isn’t headed right back to your worrisome fixation with “sin,” where IS it headed? Don’t beat around the bush – get to your point.
No, I don’t think ANYTHING is a “sin.”
I think that the word “sin” was made up by religious fanatics to scare people.
Are YOU scared?
@George+Wells: 451Retire05 said:
Then you say:
Then you admit you are the one that is incorrect:
@Redteam #450:
I read this post of yours, and I have no idea what you are trying to say, or what it is you are asking.
I read it twice, and came up with nothing but:
WHAT????
@George+Wells: 457 George, you are confused:
You clearly said that you don’t have any feelings about sins. then you said you have feelings about ‘cheating’ which is clearly ‘only a sin’ because there is certainly nothing ‘legal’ about it that I’m aware of. So my assumption is that the only ‘thing’ wrong with ‘cheating’ is that is has been commonly accepted to be a sin. Therefore you’re admitting that you have feelings about a sin. I didn’t say you judged it, and I don’t say that I’m judging it. In fact, I’ve said the judgment of sins is up to God.
Want to try again?
@George+Wells: 459 Aw, come on George. It’s only legalese. If I had wanted it to be simple I would have said it as:
Now, with that Opinion, you no longer have to worry about my opinion of your legal rights, but now I have to worry about your opinion of my legal rights.
@Redteam #455:
“Kinda jumped to a conclusi0n there George.”
What conclusion did I jump to. I said I SUSPECTED that there were a lot of reasons. That isn’t a “conclusion,” It’s an admission that I don’t know the reason but that I’m willing to guess.
“So either the rights are better for homosexuals than for straights or the cases of both, marriages would be increasing.”
We already BOTH agreed that people, gay and straight, get married for other reasons than the rights that convey upon marriage. In other words, those rights alone don’t govern marriage rates. I suspect that changing views on divorce make a difference. I suspect that more women in the workplace, making affairs easier to initiate, make a difference. I suspect that declining pregnancy rates, intentional or otherwise, make a difference. Who knows how all of the factors add up or interfere with each other?
@Redteam #456:
” Are you excited that your last will and testament were no good, you can’t do as you wish with what you worked and paid for? ” You got that wrong. My will was constructed to stand when we got married. Until we got married, the will we constructed was worthless in Virginia. Now it is valid, because we’re legally married.
@Redteam #460:
“Want to try again?”
Not really. I don’t acknowledge “sin”.
You can try to play word games all you like, but I refuse to acknowledge “sin.”
“Sin” is a religious word. We covered that already. We’re not going to beat that horse again, are we?
What’s your point?
@Redteam #461:
Not sure, Redteam.
If I have the same rights that you have, there is no problem. We both have the same rights now, don’t we?
RW, would you link me to any study on human intelligence that shows that all races on earth are of equal intelligence. Would you link me to any that show that black and white intelligence testing indicates equality? I’ve heard others make the same general statements about equality of intelligence and I’ve looked at studies many times and have NEVER found even one that supports your thoughts. Just curious.
RW, my first go at picks this week, if I change any, I’ll tell you
Texas Longhorns(2-3)At#11Oklahoma Sooners(4-1) OK
USC Trojans(3-2)At#10Arizona Wildcats(5-0)Az
#3Ole Miss Rebels(5-0)At#14Texas A&M Aggies(5-1)A&M
LSU Tigers(4-2)At Florida Gators(3-1)LSU
#9TCU Horned Frogs(4-0)At#5Baylor Bears(5-0)TCU
#12Oregon Ducks(4-1)At#18UCLA Bruins(4-1)OR
#2Auburn Tigers(5-0)At#3Mississippi State Bulldogs(5-0)MSU
West Virginia Mountaineers(3-2)AtTexas Tech Red Raiders(2-3)TT
Duke Blue Devils(4-1)At#22Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets(5-0)GT
Northwestern Wildcats(3-2)AtMinnesota Golden Gophers(4-1)MN
@George+Wells:
I made my point, which was counter to yours. Your statement was that you didn’t have feeling about sins. You stated you have feelings about cheating. Cheating is ‘only’ a sin.
you proved my point.
@George+Wells:
That’s even worse than I thought. You willingly paid for a totally invalid will? Must have made a lawyer happy.
@George+Wells:
is there a distinction with ‘illegally married’? Or is ‘legally’ just a qualifier? Is there such a thing as being married that is distinct from ‘legally married’? Are there some ‘married’ people that are not legally married? Why? I’ve often used the statement that I’m ‘married’. I don’t remember anyone asking me if I were ‘legally’ married.
@Redteam:
Do you mean, Until we got legally married?
@George+Wells:
Are you trying to fool someone? yourself? Then you won’t be here complaining about your ‘rights’ anymore?
@Redteam: Will you handicap the races by order of intelligence? Thanks
I’ll take Baylor, UCLA , Auburn. Agree on other 7
@Redteam: Jibberish. Re read your whole statement and tell me if it makes sense. Twice you say a numerically higher score does not mean a higher intelligence. Then you generalize that blacks are not as intelligent as other races.
My take from my experiences is that Southerners of all races would score lower than Northerners or Westerners. Your educational system is inferior.
@George+Wells:
If you paid a Virginia lawyer to write you a will that violated Virginia law, you got shafted by the lawyer. If you paid a lawyer of another state to write a will that complied with another state’s laws, you got shafted by the lawyer since Virginia is not required to probate on another state’s laws.
Either way, the lawyer just lightened the load in your wallet and you got zip for it.
@Richard+Wheeler:
very funny. I was born and raised in Georgia in the 1940’s went in the Navy before graduating High School (only completed 9th grade) took all the tests they give you, the general intelligence test I took, military version, I was in the top 1% of Navy scores. Does that fit with ‘dumb southerners’? Was selected at age 17 years and 2 weeks to go to NAVCAD at Pensacola. Flunked eyesight test, didn’t get to go. Didn’t have a lot to do with southern educational system.
@Richard+Wheeler:
yes, send me your list and I’ll make appropriate changes to your rankings.
you pick Baylor because they’re home team or because of all the powerhouses they have beaten, such as Oklahoma? No wait…..oh yeah, it’s UCLA I was thinking of, yeah they beat, uh was it UTAH…..no wait… oh yeah, it was Texas…..well, uh they did used to be powerful, didn’t they? No that powerhouse at Utah…uhh well uh……
@Redteam: What the hell are you blabbering about now RT? You made your picks, I made mine .I beat you last week after you asked me to pick three games We’ll check these out Sat night. Good luck.
I got all races statistically even. You seem to disagree. Rank em.
@Richard+Wheeler: 474
in 453 I said:
So you’re right, I do say that tests only measure relative numbers if the persons being tested are in comparable situations. I assume that when most scientific studies are done, that they attempt to get persons that are in comparable situations so that it would be meaningful. I’m just guess that if you selected 100 seniors, all black from Harvard or Yale and tested them against 100 whites from Mississippi that had never been to grammar school that the test results ‘might’ indicate higher educational level amongst the blacks. But I do not agree that it would indicate a higher intelligence level. So I’ll say again, unless the test is designed to measure intelligence and not educational level, then it is meaningless. So when I asked that question about ‘do you know of any testing done anywhere that is meaningful that shows a higher or equal intelligence level of blacks with any other race. If so, I’d like to see it.
@Redteam: I commend you on outperforming an educational system that YOU proclaimed was marginalized by integration.
Re479 Your last paragraph had you guessing and assuming quite a bit. How bout you showing me an actual study that shows any race superior in aptitude or intelligence to another.
I don’t buy White superiority, supremacy or whatever you want to call it RT.
@Richard+Wheeler:
based on what? Please provide a link that indicates that is remotely true. You’re just being a lib with your political correctness. Try being truthful.
Not true. You only ditto-ed mine. I made 7 of the picks for you. They have to be done independently for you to get credit. As of now, 3 is the best you can do. No credit for copying mine.
@Richard+Wheeler:
what the hell are you blabbering about. I didn’t outperform an educational system that I claimed anything about. They were not integrated for my 9 years. That county integrated schools in 1970, 9 years after I got out of the Navy.
@Richard+Wheeler:
Okay, just after you send me anything from anywhere in the world that does not show that races differ.
If you think all races are equal in intelligence, you have led a very sheltered life.
RW, heres a typical statement when you read anything about intelligence testing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
It is accepted, in my opinion, that testing shows intelligence differences, it is just unknown, mostly for political reasons, why testing shows that. Is it problems with the testing methods? If it is just testing methods, is it possible for any test to be devised that comes out with blacks at the top of intelligence levels and Asians at the bottom? I would suggest no, but then, anything is possible if you get a bunch of libs together.
@Redteam: @Redteam: You are an old man RT. LOL Actually you jumped my bets last week. Didn’t have the guts to stick with your Mon. picks that were winners. Thought that hilarious.
ENOUGH of your fantasy fun. Lets pick 10 games with the line—Real betting.
Tomorrow I’ll give you 10 games with the line. Bet you $100 you can’t pick 7 or more correctly. You can give me 10–same bet. If you are in, Curt can hold the bet.
BTW Can be more or less than $100–up to you–lets get serious yet have some fun.
@Redteam: #412
Since I don’t know how the IQ tests work, I won’t comment on them any further. I just hope they are done in a way that shows a person’s true ability to learn.
@Richard+Wheeler:
Not interested in gambling on luck. If line is correct and they are handicapped 100% correctly then they are dead even and no one wins on ability, only luck. So the only thing it would prove is who was lucky this week. It’s hard enough to pick without the odds. How do you know that the person that is establishing the line is not doing it based on how he feels they are ‘heads up’? The line is about as accurate as IQ testing. If you were handicapping the Auburn game, I suppose you’d give OLE Miss about 5 points. suppose I gave you 5 with Auburn, would that change your bet? If I were supposed to be an expert, it might change your bet, right? You’d wonder what I knew that you didn’t. Nope, I’ve got a grandson that bets the games. I don’t.
@Redteam: I say again There is no basis to support your very thinly veiled White Supremacist assertions. I say shame on you RT.
Lets stick to sports Send 10 games with the line–I’ll do the same.
@Redteam: You are certifiably nuts RT—and without a sense of humor BYE
@Smorgasbord:
Smorg, I’m going to tell you just a little about how IQ tests work, but not to get you into a discussion of them. They work a little different now than they did back before the liberals got involved in them for political reasons. One research center that does intelligence testing has been labeled as a ‘hate group’ because their tests repeatedly show white intelligence higher than black. With many different tests and different groups and races input, the results are the same, so it has to be because the research group ‘hates’ blacks. right? There can be no other explanation. I have said and believe that there is no test that everyone takes that is an exact match for their abilities. There are a lot of circumstances involved and argument serves no purpose. As I said to RW, I can’t find any research , on line, that measured black intelligence above whites. Can’t explain that.
@Redteam: #420
I never mentioned affirmative action, and it has nothing to do with whether gays have the same rights as non-gays.
Pick almost any group you want, and you will find people in it that feel they should get special privileges, since they are in that group. Look at how the illegals are DEMANDING their rights.
I have asked this before: If we are going to use the Christian religion to make laws because it is the dominant religion in the USA, what happens if the muslim religion becomes the dominant religion in the USA? Do the politicians have to follow muslim rules when writing laws?
Our founding fathers came from a country that the church has almost as much power as the king did, and they didn’t want that for their new country. That is why it is written in the US Constitution that the government can’t establish a religion.
In my opinion, here is the way the gay thing should be settled: If a religion wants to condemn gays, they have a right to their opinion, and if the religion doesn’t want them as members, that is fine with me. The problem for me is when the religion wants ME to say it is wrong to be gay when I don’t want to.
I have had conversations like this before, and my mind won’t be changed, so I don’t want to continue on the subject any more. I accept your right to your opinion, and I ain’t going to change it. You ain’t going to change my opinion either, so let’s not talk about it any more.
@Richard+Wheeler:
What test are you using to cerify nuts? Is it more or less accurate than IQ testing? Do liberals do the testing? One thing I do have is a sense of humor, I talk to you, don’t I.
How do you measure how thick the veil is on racial assertions? Is it more or less accurate than IQ testing? Do liberals do the testing? By being a ‘thinly veiled White Supremacist” does that mean I am in the hate group, or are you in the hate group for pointing it out? I get confused on that.
If you pick 10 games with the line, do you ever break 500? Almost no one (except me) got 500 on those 10 games in pick em, straight up.
@George+Wells: #406
I hadn’t heard about the Supreme Court’s decision not to hear the case. The way I understand the Constitution, whatever is not declared illegal in it is legal. This means that if there is no federal laws regulating gay marriage, then it is legal.
When I lived in Massachusetts, the gay marriage issue came up, and some people were saying the state allowed it. One radio talk show host said that there is nothing about gay marriage in the state constitution. Again, if there is no law against it, it is legal.
@Smorgasbord:
It does in the context as I mentioned it. You said in 405
If a gay is given affirmative action, as blacks are, it is discrimination. If someone is discriminated against, it is for the advantage of someone else. So your use ofl the capitalized “in ANY way” it is emphasizing, any way. Well, I pointed out that affirmative action is a ‘way’ and it’s definitely wrong to harm someone that way.
Though I will admit that when you said ‘harmed’ I originally thought of ‘physically’ but then I remembered that harmed has many meanings. A simple example: if a gay guy is allowed to run around showing his ass in public parades in front of children, I would suggest that could be a ‘harm’ to them. I would suggest that a person that is not gay would not be allowed to show his ass in public without arrest. Sounds like affirmative action to me.
@Redteam: #494
What I meant was how has anyone been harmed just by someone being gay? There is no physical damage, and the only emotional damage is to those who don’t like gays. Otherwise, there is no harm done to anybody.
As I mentioned before, there are those kinds of people in almost any organization. To pick one is unfair.
@Redteam #460:
“Want to try again?”
No.
I already told you that I do not acknowledge “sin”.
“Sin” is a religious concept that I do not accept as having any legitimacy.
I cannot make myself any clearer.
If you think that there is a contradiction somewhere in those words, I cannot help you with that.
@Redteam #469:
“Until we got married, the will we constructed was worthless in Virginia.”
“That’s even worse than I thought. You willingly paid for a totally invalid will? Must have made a lawyer happy.”
The will we had drawn up was valid in some states, and we planned to move to one of them if either of us got near death. It was a terrible thing to have to contemplate, but it was the only alternative we had. Now we do not have to move. The will is good, and we got our money’s worth.
@Redteam #470:
“is there a distinction with ‘illegally married’? Or is ‘legally’ just a qualifier? Is there such a thing as being married that is distinct from ‘legally married’? Are there some ‘married’ people that are not legally married? Why? I’ve often used the statement that I’m ‘married’. I don’t remember anyone asking me if I were ‘legally’ married. ”
Are you REALLY this stupid?
Is it because you are straight?
If two gay people got married in Virginia last week, their marriage was illegal. Yes, there IS a difference between a legal marriage and an illegal marriage. My marriage in Maryland was illegal in Virginia. It would also have been termed a “marriage of avoidance” in that I had avoided compliance with Virginia law, and there were provisions for the prosecution of such marriages under certain circumstances.
You should not presume to be aware of the intricacies of laws about which you know nothing and which do not affect you.
Soon, there won’t be.
@retire05 #475:
“Either way, the lawyer just lightened the load in your wallet and you got zip for it.”
I got a will that is good today. That is more than “zip.”
@Smorgasbord: 493, mostly true. If the fed constitution does not prohibit it and a state constitution allows it or does not prohibit it, then it is legal. If a state makes a law against it, then that law is legal (whoops) unless it violates someone’s ‘rights’ to be married to a gay person. A person has a right to be gay and has a right that every one that doesn’t like it should just modify their opinion and congratulate the lucky gays.
@Redteam #494:
“If a gay is given affirmative action, as blacks are, it is discrimination. . .if a gay guy is allowed to run around showing his ass in public (but) a person that is not gay would not be allowed to show his ass in public… Sounds like affirmative action to me.”
No, Redteam, that isn’t “affirmative action”. It is discrimination against the straight guy, because he is not being given the same “allowance” that the gay guy got. The straight guy would have reason to sue the law enforcement agency for violation of his right to equal protection under the Law. “Affirmative action” is when a minority is given something of value that others are not for the purpose of correcting past injustices. “Affirmative action” cases involve college admission, hiring and promotion practices, not the clothing people are allowed to wear. The American Indians who are allowed to smoke Peyote are not exercising “affirmative action,” they are exercising freedom of religion, as defined by the courts. Of course, you are free to define terms any way you like, under your freedom of speech, but you can’t expect other people to have a CLUE what you are talking about.
Maybe you should look up “affirmative action.”