
From one of Gutenberg's first books, “The Ship Of Fools”
In dunce's dance I take the lead,
Books useless, numerous my creed,
Which I can't understand or read.
Too Little Too Late
Apparently, no one at the CIA signed off on saving the lives of our diplomats in Benghazi. Now, that leaves just one other guy and he has a major problem with the truth. President Obama had no problem claiming responsibility for launching the attack to kill Bin Ladin from a golf course, but owning up to the truth about the death of four Americans in Benghazi is another matter entirely.
General Petraeus, Director of the CIA, has stated categorically that neither he nor anyone else at the CIA denied the requests for help from our former SEALs who were fighting to save the lives of over thirty Americans at the consulate in Benghazi. From an official spokesman of the CIA:
“No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to
the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”
Too Little Too Late
Unfortunately, General Petraeus, by maintaining his silence, has participated in the presidential coverup of the Benghazi assault for six weeks. It is unfortunate for Petraeus to end his career with this tragedy, but when you participate in a coverup, you are as guilty as the perpetrator: it is time for Petraeus to resign. An officer who compromises his honor, in the guise of political loyalties will be considered to be without honor, if he decides not to resign.
Dithering:nervous indecisiveness: nervously confused indecisiveness in the face of alternative possible actions.
Our president's notorious proclivity for dithering has cost the lives of an ambassador, a diplomatic aide, and two heroes. The president's overwhelming grief over his responsibility for allowing this tragedy to take place was to attend a celebrity fundraiser in Las Vegas and party with Beyonce and Jay-Z. The president managed a pretense of hilarity and gaiety as he and Jay-Z cavorted around an ostentatious display of champagne.
Since the president falsely claimed a video was responsible for the attack and murders, the honor and integrity of President Obama is not in question; however, now that Americans have died unnecessarily in the service of their country after pleading for help from our government three times, America wants and expects honesty and integrity from the Commander in Chief.
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Hi Retire,
I wasn’t making a global comment. I was simply commenting about this particular blog. I’ve never before felt unwelcome here. Thanks to you and a couple others, I now do feel very unwelcome. Maybe Greg derives some masochistic pleasure in having his blood “boiled” (as put by my friend Bees). Not me. Flopping Aces, I hardly knew ‘ye.
You are a Catholic, correct?
Christians used to say that Jews shared a collective guilt for the crucifixion of Christ. Pope Benedict has thankfully declared that there is no such thing as collective guilt.
Neither I nor Greg nor Richard are responsible for Alinsky or Kos. If you’ve got issues with Kos, I’ll again suggest that you go over there and present your own complaints. Extra points for signing your own name.
If you disagree with what I write, then by all means criticize my writing. That’s what Nan does, and Aqua, and Common Sense, and John Galt, and even my frequent nemesis Aye, with whom I once exchanged some sharp words, but with whom I’ve since shared much in the way of rewarding discourse. And a dozen others, on an irregularly regular basis. But I am at a loss to understand why you, in particular, seem utterly incapable of disagreeing without being disagreeable, and incapable of being argumentative, without dragging it down to a personal level.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA
Larry Retire o5 is the face of the vitriolic Right. Fortunately, she has few allies among true Conservs. like Mata,Word and Aye. Gentlemen like Aqua and John Galt. I enjoy debating and learning from such as these.
O5 and her kind help keep me in the Democratic fold.
and the biggest news. Because of the storm Trump is extending his 5 million dollar offer to Obama.Why doesn’t he donate that to NYC storm victims? The face of a narcissistic, greed driven—-I’m sorry—-Republican
Semper Fi Go Irish
More from Petraeus:
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/30/benghazi-early-briefings-changed-story-cia-director-david-petraeus-and-more-read-this-report-by-fncs-catherine-herridge/
but:
But another source told Fox:
So which is it? either?/or? Is it really clear that Obama knew from the beginning and was lying? Or was he just as uncertain then as Fox appears to be now? Based on incomplete and conflicting intelligence, from the different intelligence agencies?
Now, what’s going on in this blog has been the characterization of Benghazi as being a conspiracy/cover-up, directed — ostensibly — by Obama himself or by Obama and Panetta (the latter of whom has a sterling reputation in various positions within government).
The truth is that it’s all hearsay and inconsistent and conflicting hearsay, at that. The news “sources” cited by Fox don’t even tell consistent stories and these stories indicate the involvement of Petraeus (another government servant of sterling reputation).
So what are we dealing with (I ask again). Bad intelligence? Conflicting intelligence, from competing intelligence agencies which still don’t talk to each other, the way that they should? Misinformation, intentionally planted by the intelligence agencies, to assist these agencies in terrorist identification and interdiction? Advice to Obama from his military and intelligence experts not to mount an impromptu rescue mission (which is what Panetta effectively stated)? Failure of Panetta to carry out a direct order from the President to mount such a rescue mission (as suggested by Newt Gingrich and others)?
Or are we simply certain that Obama personally screwed up and that getting out the real facts of what happened doesn’t really matter, because he’s guilty, no matter what?
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Richard Wheeler
you said “vitriolic’
your not so bad you re self
Larry, I commend you.
You are asking the right questions.
As long as (6 weeks and counting) Obama and his inner circle keep their mouths shut we won’t KNOW what happened in the Situation Room of the White House.
BUT we DO know they all watched some of the live drone feed.
We DO know what Obama said (he wanted them protected).
We also DO know what Panetta said (he wouldn’t send in any help under the circumstances).
How could those two men, in the same room have had 180′ opposite statements?
Did one (Panetta) misunderstand the other (Obama)?
Is one lying about what he said (Obama)?
(Since if Panetta lied men WOULD have been sent in.)
Is there some reason why Obama didn’t really tell Panetta to try to save these men?
Real facts, as you call them, can be derived after enough people in that Situation Room testify as to what they said there.
Generals have gone on record.
So has the CIA.
So has Panetta at Defense.
Obama has said what he did, but no one can prove when he gave such an order or to whom.
The Diplomad (an anonymous American diplomat) writes this:
This blogger has no more facts than anyone else, but his explanation makes sense.
It jibes with all that we have already seen in Obama, blaming others, dithering, believing his own BS, etc.
It’s just that THIS TIME 4 people died.
Nan G
yes that anonymous make a lot of sense to me,
because of the unexpected hate image of OBAMA burned for all to see,
and the the reaction of keeping silence of OBAMA,
and the way they had GENERAL HAM AND THE NAVY COMMANDER EXPEL OF THEIR POST
for wanting to help save the four who died,
some mentioned the fact that the SEALS where told not to go help STEVEN ,
revealed another aspect of OBAMA not wanting STEVEN to be help and saved
because he had some information very damming for OBAMA’S RE-ELECTION,
@retire05:
Well smacked.
Their righteous indignation is pretty pathetic. “Rewarding discourse” is code for “Nobody beat me up for my dispicable views.”
@openid.aol.com/runnswim:
It is not up to me to either make you feel unwelcome on this blog, which I do not own, or hand you a verbal Welcome Wagon basket. If that is what you are looking for from me, who, I shall remind you again, does not own this website, then you have knocked on the wrong door.
Now, I really don’t understand what my religious beliefs has to do with whatever point you were trying to make, except that faith, and adherence to it, seems important to liberals like you only when you are pushing a social agenda. And yes, Jews, as a people, were absolved from “collective” blame (I doubt the Jews ever felt guilt for something they did not do, any more than I feel guilt for slavery when my own people were persecuted by those demanding reparations, in one form or another, for slavery), but you are not for one very specific reason; you continue to support a party, and elected members of that party, that go against the very teachings you profess to subscribe to. Not once have I heard you complain about Nancy Pelosi, a Congresswoman from your own state, supporting the killing of the unborn, or any of the other numerous Democrats who also support abortion while professing their Catholicism as if it were a Purple Heart. And although you are not responsible for the writings of Alinsky, you are responsible for supporting a party that subscribes to his teachings, with the epitome of that being both Barack Obama, Jr., who taught Alinsky’s writting while a senior lecturer at Columbia, and Hillary Clinton, who wrote her senior thesis on Alinsky, and remained friends with him until the day he died. When you support those who subscribe to Alinsky’s tactics and practices, your silence about it implies tacit approval.
Why am I disagreeable with you, Larry? Why can’t I just sing Kumbaya and tell you “Well, why can’t we just all get along?” Because I detest everything you stand for from your support of the violation of our 4th Amendment rights, to the support you lend to those you should, as a Christian, be in total disagreement with. For decades, I tried to get along with my liberal counterparts, only to be basically told that I am just too stupid to comprehend what they were trying to acheive. I watched as your party bashed President Bush, and raised the level of vitriol to a point I had never seen in my life time. And now I see it again in your party’s false attacks on Mitt Romney who, while I may not agree with everything he believes in (he’s not conservative enough for me), I believe he is a good man. Do you come here and denounce your party for the false things it says? No.
Is there any difference between you and Greg? Yes, but only in the respect that Greg is a true believer, and willing to lie, steal and cheat to promote his political goals of a more socialized American. You, on the other hand, Larry, want to appear middle-of-the-road although your solid left wing philosphy leaks out like water in a rusty bucket. Greg doesn’t care if people like him, but you seem to be overly concerned about that.
So like Jesus with the money changers, I have had enough. And if being not as nice as you want me to be to you is the only weapon I have in my arsenal, so be it. I have decided to adopt the same tactics that the left has been using on us conservatives for decades. Deal with it. I view you, along with the lap dog press, the left wing bloggers, and the Democrat Party, my enemies and the enemies of this nation. And no, we can’t just all get along, obviously.