Say What? August 16, 2011 Edition [Reader Post]



Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.), the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee: “All of the Republican candidates have made clear their allegiance to the Tea Party, supporting extreme policies that would hurt the middle class, seniors, and students.  The only winner tonight was the Tea Party.”  One thing which you should learn about the left; whatever they accuse conservatives of doing, that is their modus operandi.

Wasserman Schultz: “Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul represent the extreme right wing, which is the core of the Republican Party today.”  Again, almost every attack that they make is a description of themselves.

President Barack Obama: “So, when Congress gets back in September I want to move quickly on things that will help the economy create jobs right now.  Extending the payroll tax credit to put a thousand dollars in the pocket of the average American worker. Extending unemployment insurance to help people get back on their feet. Putting construction workers back to work rebuilding America.  Those are all steps we can take right now that will make a difference and there is no contradiction between us taking some steps to put people to work right now and getting our long-term fiscal house in order. In fact, the more we grow the easier it will be to reduce our deficits.”  This man is in charge of the largest financial entity in human history, and this is his point of view.  If you are a liberal reading this, thinking, “Yeah, this makes sense;” our precarious economy becomes quite explicable.

Stanley Marcus, U.S. Court of Appeals, dissenting view: “[The court] has ignored the undeniable fact that Congress’ commerce power has grown exponentially over the past two centuries and is now generally accepted as having afforded Congress the authority to create rules regulating large areas of our national economy.”

Senator John F. Kerry said “[This ruling] flies in the face of recent precedent and longstanding jurisprudence.”

Sen. John Kerry, D-mass.: “I believe this is, without question, the Tea Party downgrade. This is the Tea Party downgrade because a minority of people in the House of Representatives countered even the will of many Republicans in the United States Senate who were prepared to do a bigger deal.”

David Axelrod, Obama Campaign Adviser: “The fact of the matter is that this is essentially a Tea Party downgrade. The Tea Party brought us to the brink of — of a default. And by the way, you said before, the president said this — if we had defaulted on our debt, the consequences would have been dramatic and lasting.”  So, somehow the TEA party, which makes up what, maybe 10–20% of the elected Republicans at this time, who desire a balanced budget, are somehow responsible for years of political irresponsibility?

Rep. James Clyburn,  who is now on the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction: “In 1963, Dr. [Martin Luther] King [Jr.] expressed disbelief that the vault of opportunity in this great country was empty. Yet in 2011, the gap continues to grow wider between those who enjoy great wealth and those who struggle to get by with little thought of ever getting ahead.  Too often, the human side gets lost in the Washington debates about our nation’s debt and deficits.  I will seek to keep those interests on the table.”

Ben LaBolt, the Obama campaign’s press secretary: “Governor Perry’s economic policies are a carbon copy of the economic policies of Washington Republicans.”

President Obama: “Look what’s happening in Holland, Mich..  Every day, hundreds of people are going to work on the technologies that are helping us fight our way out of this recession. Every day you’re building high-tech batteries so that we lead the world in manufacturing the best cars and the best trucks – that just doesn’t mean jobs in Michigan. You’re buying equipment and parts from suppliers in Florida and New Mexico and Ohio and Wisconsin, all across America.”  This high tech company that Obama speaks so highly of created 150 jobs after being given $300 million in stimulus funds.

When asked if he should reconvene Congress to deal with our economic problems, President Obama responded with: “The last thing we need is Congress spending more time arguing in D.C..”  Obama did not mention his upcoming vacation in Martha’s Vineyard in his response.

President Obama told a crowd at a battery plant in Holland, Michigan, that Republicans must “find a way to put country ahead of party.”  Then he flew off to do 2 fundraisers.

A recent AP story by Peter Orsi described Cuban dictator Castro as a “revolutionary icon” with an “outsize persona,” who in his prime was “a gregarious public speaker,” and while in retirement remains a “prolific writer.”

Al Sharpton: “Resist we much.”

The Adoring and Compliant Obama Press:

Washington Post religious editor Lisa Miller: “Obama rejected the idea of American exceptionalism – that God has special plans for this country…[quoting Obama] ‘I believe that [God’s plans] are a little too mysterious for me to grasp,’ he said in 2007, ‘and so what I try to do is, as best I can, be an instrument of his will.’  What a relief this was for millions of believers exhausted by the mean certainties of the religious right. Here was a man who would strive for perfection even as he failed to achieve it, and who would use government as the instrument of that striving. ”  She did, however, castigate the President for compromising too much.

Martin Bashr, religion expert for MSNBC: “Barack Obama is going to be reelected and reelected with a big margin, because I think that people understand, a lot of ordinary Americans who aren’t on the religious right understand something and that is as the first African-American president, he has been up against a racist white bloc in the Republican Party that has come dressed as the Tea Party, the religious right, all sorts of excuses.  What they really want is to see him fail…Most Americans understand that in a second term, he is going to come out swinging and do a lot more than in the first term when the obstructionists have been swept out of the way. And I predict that.”

Joan Walsh, Salon: “[Obama] did a great job fighting the Paul Ryan budget, I believe it was back in April, Chris. You and I both talked about it. He really sounded like a Democrat. He really explained to Paul Ryan why he was making a lot of mistaken assumptions about the way America works. That was awesome, and he backed away from that. I think he was, it was right to try to compromise. It was right to take office in 2009 and try to reach out to the other side and believe that there were Republicans. . .”

Chris Matthews, MSNBC Host: “Yeah, but that was easy. But that was easier, Joan. Joan, he made himself a tackling dummy. Paul Ryan stuck his neck out, and this guy punched his head off. But this time around, he’s up against shrewd, tough customers. Those guys fronting for the Tea Party, Ron, knew what they were doing. They had enough people behind them to give them bulk, and they went at the President saying, ‘We’re going to knock you off here. We don’t care what you think. We’re going to knock you off unless you say Uncle.’ ”

New York Times columnist Charles Blow: “I must confess that every time Representative Michele Bachmann uttered the phrase ‘as president of the United States’ during Thursday’s Republican presidential debate I blacked out a little bit, so I’m sure that I missed some things.”

Liberals being civil:

Prominent Democratic strategist aligned with the White House “Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to kill Romney.”  [there have been disputes as to the prominence of this Democratic strategist].

Chris Matthews of Rick Perry: “He looks like a clown…he dresses very fancy, there’s something the way about he puts himself together, he doesn’t look authentic, he looks like a wax figure pretending to be a governor or something…there is something that doesn’t add up to me; maybe it is this Texas BS, this boots, boots and tuxedo thing that they do down there…is it, ignorance is bliss down there?  …[Perry] deliberately was ignorant….

Liberals making sense:

Steve Harvey on Cornel West and Tavis Smiley‘s Poverty Tour: “Where are you getting the money for these buses?”  And He added that he’d spotted an Uncle Tom driving a bus and that Cornel West and Tavis Smiley were “poverty pimps.”

Almost anything from Michael Nutter’s speech.


U.S. Court of Appeals on the insurance purchase mandate: “This economic mandate represents a wholly novel and potentially unbounded assertion of congressional authority: the ability to compel Americans to purchase an expensive health insurance product they have elected not to buy, and to make them re-purchase that insurance product every month for their entire lives.”

Survey director Richard Curtin: “Never before in the history of the surveys have so many consumers spontaneously mentioned negative aspects of the government’s role.  This was more than the simple recognition that traditional monetary and fiscal policy measures were largely spent. It was the realization that the government was unable or unwilling to act.”


Wall Street Journal‘s Laura Meckler asked Jay Carney: “I understand why extending unemployment insurance provides relief to people who need it, but how does that create jobs?”

Jay Carney: “Oh, uh, it is by, uh, I would expect a reporter from the Wall Street Journal would know this as part of the entrance exam.”

“There are few other ways that can directly put money into the economy than applying unemployment insurance…no, seriously, it is one of the most direct ways to infuse money directly into the economy because people who are unemployed and obviously aren’t running a paycheck are going to spend the money that they get. They’re not going to save it, they’re going to spend it.  And with unemployment insurance, that way, the money goes directly back into the economy, dollar for dollar virtually.  So, when it goes back into the economy, everywhere… every place that, that money is spent has added business and that creates growth and income for businesses that leads them to decisions about jobs, more hiring. So, there are few other ways that can directly put money into the economy than applying unemployment insurance.”

Meckler: “Then why, since this has been extended, has employment not dropped?”

Carney: “What we have seen is 2.4 million private sector jobs created?  …economic analysts totally unaffiliated with this administration tell you and told you way back last year, the combination of the payroll tax cut and the extension of unemployment insurance would have a direct measurable impact upon job creation so that, of the jobs created this year, a certain number, however many tens or hundreds of thousands, jobs can be attributed to those actions taken by the president last year, which is why he feels so strongly that they ought to be done again as we continue to emerge from this recession.”

Carney also says this is only one item of a “variety of things to grow the economy and create jobs.”

“This is one thing that economists of all stripes agree will directly affect growth, a half-percentage point I believe, economists believe is the payroll tax cut,” Carney also said.

Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist and Nobel prize winner in economics: “Think about World War II, right? That was actually negative social product spending, and yet it brought us out.

I mean, probably because you want to put these things together, if we say, ‘Look, we could use some inflation.’ Ken and I are both saying that, which is, of course, anathema to a lot of people in Washington but is, in fact, what the basic logic says.

It’s very hard to get inflation in a depressed economy. But if you had a program of government spending plus an expansionary policy by the Fed, you could get that. So, if you think about using all of these things together, you could accomplish, you know, a great deal.

If we discovered that, you know, space aliens were planning to attack and we needed a massive buildup to counter the space alien threat and really inflation and budget deficits took secondary place to that, this slump would be over in 18 months. And then if we discovered, oops, we made a mistake, there aren’t any aliens, we’d be better -“

Kenneth Rogoff, Professor of Economics, Harvard University: “And we need Orson Welles, is what you’re saying.”

Krugman: “No, there was a ‘Twilight Zone’ episode like this in which scientists fake an alien threat in order to achieve world peace. Well, this time, we don’t need it, we need it in order to get some fiscal stimulus.”

CNN’s Don Lemon: Speaking over on the soapbox, and really giving some interesting – and straightforward talk. And we had a – let’s say a passionate conversation afterwards. And the reason we did is because you said you were an against-all-odds person, and quite honestly I said to you do you think in a party – in a mostly-white party in a mostly-white state, did you really stand a chance, not only of a nomination, of becoming President?

Herman Cain, GOP presidential candidate: I really think that I have a chance of – getting the nomination, becoming President, because my experience from 2004, when I ran for the United States Senate, and I’ve traveled to all 159 counties in Georgia, color didn’t matter. It wasn’t about color.

Lemon: You will be up against someone who has a majority of the African-American vote, and who has – will have, probably, the majority of the liberal vote.

Cain: Let’s just say he temporarily has the majority of the African-American vote. Based upon my experience of being on the radio for five years, I know that is changing. And so I don’t believe he’s going to capture the majority of the African-American vote if I – when I get the nomination.

Lemon: You had a very tough back-and-forth last night, I have to say, explaining what you meant about Sharia Law and about mosques should be banned, should be able to be banned in the United States. Do you want to clarify or talk about that?

Cain: Absolutely. First of all, what I said originally, and what I intended got misconstrued, which happens sometimes when it goes from story to story to story. Here’s my position. Number one, I believe in the First Amendment. Number two, I believe in freedom of religion in America. We are a nation that recognizes and appreciates all religions. However, if there is a part of a religion that is going to basically try and change our culture or hurt this nation, I’m going to be the first one to stand in the way. And so this is why I was emphatic about the fact that if there’s an element out there that wants Sharia Law to be considered in the courts of the United States of America, I’m against that. American laws in American courts.

Lemon: Should mosques be able to be banned in the United States?

Cain: Not categorically, no. It depends on what it’s being used for. Not all of them necessarily are being used for just religious purposes.

Lemon: All right, I want to talk about religion. Because Mormonism as well, you said people didn’t understand Mitt Romney, and about John Huntsman, religion. The New York Magazine calls them Cain and Abel, two brothers, Cain and Abel of American politics. Mitt Romney, John Huntsman are rich Mormon ex-governors who can’t stand each other either might be able to beat Obama, but only if they don’t kill each other first. You had to talk about that, because you said most people don’t understand Mormonism and you didn’t believe that they still have a chance.

Cain: Well I know, having grown up in the South, and living in the South then, that many of them don’t understand the Mormon religion. That’s not my problem. I don’t have a problem with it. But, now, go back to this article that you just showed. This is an attempt to sensationalize something that I don’t even think exists between these two guys. And so the fact that they are trying to turn this into a story – I don’t think the American people are going to fall for it.

Lemon: You don’t regret your comments about people not knowing about this –

Cain: No! No, because it’s true. I mean, I’ve had people tell me this. So I was basically reflecting what people have told me, that’s all. They don’t really understand it, and when people don’t understand something, they are suspicious of something.


Senator Jim DeMint: “We saw within a few days that this President was going to be heavy-handed, he was going to implement his agenda and pay back his political allies, and it just went on from there to ObamaCare and then to Dodd-Frank.  It has been the most anti-business and I consider anti-American administration in my lifetime. Things that are just so anathema to the principles of freedom, and everything he has come up with centralizes more power in Washington, creates more socialist-style, collectivist policies. This president is doing something that’s so far out of the realm of anything Republicans ever did wrong, it’s hard to even imagine.”

George Will: “It’s not clear what will work [to fix the economy]; it is pretty clear what won’t work: we’ve had a stimulus, and there are now 2 million more unemployed than when the stimulus was passed.  We now have a record of 1 in 7 American households on food stamps.  We have wagered this economy on the mistaken view of the multiplier affect of federal dollars spend to create jobs.  It didn’t work.  Let’s try something else.”

Jason Chaffetz: “We’re not just one good tax increase away from prosperity.  We need stability in our government.  We need predictability.”

Hugh Hewitt: “The most disturbing aspect of our current income tax system is that more than a majority of Americans pay no income taxes at all. These citizens can afford to be indifferent to the size and cost of the national government because, outside of payroll deductions, they are not paying any portion of their income to the Feds. In fact this 51% have every incentive to demand more in the way of services and transfer payments because they aren’t picking up even a tiny fraction of the costs.”

Amilya Antonetti on Barack Obama (I think I listed the video for this last week): “He’s not going to be known as the first black president, he’s going to be known as the president who had a downgrade; that’s what he’s going to be known for.  Doesn’t matter; I inherit a mess every day as the CEO of my company.  Every day I inherit a mess.  That is my job title; to fix problems.  To get people to work together in harmony for one common goal.  He can’t get the people in the White House.  I don’t care if you are a red or blue, your job is to make people work together in harmony for one common goal.  The common goal is that this country is a safe, secure country to come to; this is the `American Dream’.  WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO OUR COUNTRY?  Get these people together, not on vacation, and get them around the table, and come up with a plan; understand how you build a plan, what is the plan, what are the steps, how are we going to get there.  Why can’t you put together a plan?”

Bill O’Reilly on Democrats blaming the TEA party for the United States credit downgrade: “They are appealing to people who don’t know anything.”  [quoted from memory]

Sean Hannity: “[Obama’s] never blamed Bush for inheriting a 5.9% unemployment rate from him.” [quoted from memory]

Amilya Antoinette: “It is not the rich who will be hosed by the tax increases.” [quoted from memory]

Sarah Palin: “Could I support somebody like Mitt Romney? Yeah…I’m of the mind of ABO – Anybody But Obama, at this time.”

Michelle Malkin on Patty Murray, one of the liberals named to the debt super-committee: “Derided for her earmark addiction by both conservative and liberal civic groups, she has cemented her position as the Senate Queen of Pork over 18 gluttonous years in office.  Murray takes perverse pride in increasing debt limits on pet projects in her home state. Her solution to our fiscal crisis: Spend, borrow, spend and borrow some more! In 2009, she stuffed the Obama porkulus with a $3.25 billion provision benefiting the federal Bonneville Power Administration by massively expanding its spending authority. Murray then claimed to have spurred immediate job creation. ”

Thomas Sowell: “Theodore Roosevelt said that his foreign policy was to speak softly and carry a big stick. Barack Obama’s foreign policy in Libya has been to speak loudly and carry a little stick. Too often Obama’s foreign policy around the world looks like children happily playing with fire.”

Thomas Sowell: “My favorite birthday card this year said on the outside, Ageing is Inevitable – and, on the inside: Maturity is optional.”

Sowell: “President Obama often talks about wanting to raise taxes on “millionaires and billionaires” but – in his actual tax proposals – higher taxes usually begin with couples earning $250,000 between them. Apparently that makes you a millionaire or a billionaire.”

Sowell: “At one time, it was well understood that adversity taught valuable lessons, which reduce the probability of repeating foolish decisions. But, today, the welfare state shields people from the consequences of their own mistakes, allowing irresponsibility to continue and to flourish among ever wider circles of people.”

Sowell: “Amid all the concerns about the skyrocketing government debt, a front-page headline in the Wall Street Journal said: “Families Slice Debt to Lowest In 6 Years.” It is remarkable how differently people behave when they are spending their own money compared to the way politicians behave when spending the government’s money.”

Rick Perry: “[global warming is] all one contrived phony mess that is falling apart under its own weight.”

Rush Limbaugh: “What we’re seeing in Britain is the chickens of socialism, Obamanomics, Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now.  That’s what’s coming home to roost, brought to us by a Debt Man Walking.”

Rush Limbaugh: “At this point in his first term George W. Bush had held seven fundraisers; Obama’s now held 38.  It will be 39 or 40 by next week.”

Rush Limbaugh: “Do you realize that the United States economy, our GDP is smaller today than it was in 2007?  Think about that.  That is a stunning fact.”

Rush: “We’ve had a AAA credit rating since 1917, all the way through World War I. The Great Depression, we had a AAA credit rating. World War II, we had a AAA credit rating.”

Rush: “There is no happiness in socialism. There is no nirvana. There is no utopia.”

Rush: “The Tea Party is about reducing the size of government and getting it out of people’s lives, rejecting the notion that only government can make the right decisions for people.”

Rush: “I don’t know, ladies and gentlemen, what Obama’s got against Mother Earth that he wants us to the poison the planet with so many damn batteries.”

Rush: “I’m sorry, but this Ron Paul is gonna destroy this party if they keep him in there. This is nuts on parade. The media loves this guy ’cause he’s nuts on parade. They want the whole Republican Party to be identified with the kookiness of Ron Paul.”

Conservatives from the Past:

Ronald Reagan: “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”

Ronald Reagan: “One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project.”

Republican Infighting:

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough: “I got it all off my chest. Michele Bachmann, she is a joke. And now I will pass it on to you. Her answer is a joke. Her candidacy is a joke, and anybody that sits here and says, she has any chance of winning anything is out of their mind. Take your straw poll, take your caucus, but Iowa, if you let her win, you prove your irrelevance once again.”  Scarborough is the resident Republican RHINO on MSNBC.

Conservatives not making any sense:

Ron Paul: “Even our own CIA gives me this information that they have no evidence that they [Iran scientists] are working on a weapon.”

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What CNN’s Lemon said about Mormons was educational, if looked at the right way.
IF both Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are Mormons AND they disagree about so many things, voters should not worry about that religion in politics.
After all, here are two widely different choices of candidates and yet both of them are Mormon!
I’m not saying to vote for either man.
I’m just saying looking at them as Lemon and the NY magazine did proves that Mormonism is not monolithic.
It does not dictate what its followers must do in political situations, apparently.

Wll John, John, there is a good bit of difference between “bigger deal” and “better deal”. So, you should go to your yacht (still in RI assume) and “deal with it”.

@Nan G:
You know, religion seems to be getting a lot of play in political discussions these days. As an atheist, it doesn’t really matter to me what religion a candidate has as long as it isn’t muslim (no Greg, I’m not Phobic, I’m a bigot when it comes to the enemy). Pretty much 100% of the negative comments in the blogs about the Mormon connection have been from those claiming to belong to other Christian sects. Too bad really.

I really wish people would keep it about the Constitution instead of some “holly” texts.

Rush Limbaugh: “Do you realize that the United States economy, our GDP is smaller today than it was in 2007? Think about that. That is a stunning fact.”

The U.S. GDP has grown with every quarter from the 3rd quarter of 2009 through the 2nd quarter of 2011. As can be seen from this chart, the worst quarter of the decline came at the end of the previous administration; from that point forward the decline slowed; by mid-2009 we were back in positive territory and so far have remained there. (That might change, owing to recent republican efforts to get us back on track.)

Further, the quarterly GDP for each of the first two quarters of 2011 have been higher than the GDP for each of the first two quarters of 2007. Look at the quarterly data here and see for yourself.

Rush, as always, is blowing hot air. His fact is not a fact at all.

The points you make are supported by the graph you present. . . but so is his, you just provided proof then claimed his “fact, is not a fact at all”. Just sayin’ . Per your graph real GDP today is, in fact, lower than it was in 2007.

Of course greg picks the “nominal” line as his “proof”. Marxists don’t like to deal with real numbers.


(That might change, owing to recent republican efforts to get us back on track.)

Opinion. Can you support it with facts? How about telling conservatives here exactly what you would do to get the economy “back on track”. Can you? Or is your aim to merely demagogue the Republicans, and particularly the conservatives without producing any verifiable facts?

And, as an aside, criticizing Rush Limbaugh, while showing his claim to be accurate, is hilarious. Care to give us more “facts” that “disprove” other conservative’s claims? We could use more hilarity here on FA.

Good Stuff – thanks Gary

We were heading for the cliff ‘before’ the Tea Party even existed …. if anything people should be THANKING the Tea Party for bringing the Liberal controlled Congress + Liberal out of control SPENDING, Taxes, Big Government, Unpopular Re-distribution of Wealth – National (bankrupting) Healthcare, Lost Liberties and Freedoms to Big Government, Socialism, Communist Czars, (failed) Stimulus and the lack of Transparency or LISTENING to the American people into the ‘Light of Day’ to the whole country….. the Tea Party “made” Washington and every individual called “Government” “take notice” and LISTEN…

Obama and his Administration took us within feet of that cliff…

Could you just imagine the SPENDING spree the Liberals would have continued (and are still fighting to continue) had the Tea Party NOT gathered on 9/12/09 (that’s two years ago not 3 months ago) to challenge this “Hope and (Horrible) Change” Administration???

Has any Liberal/Republican forgotten that there were over 400 non-existent “districts” in the “Obama Stimulus Package” that received over 6.4 Billion in “stolen” Tax Payer dollars???
Jason Matteras asks the question….

AND Obama wants to put out yet another “stimulus” package and THAT is going to get support…Really? Not with the Tea Party and any sane American that’s for sure!!

@Hard Right, #6:

Compare the Q1 and Q2 real US GDP figures for 2007 with Q1 and Q2 real US GDP figures for 2011. The real figures, as opposed to the nominal figures, are the those in the right column of the chart at the bottom of the linked page. They’re as follows:

2007 Q1: $13,056.1
2007 Q2: $13,173.6

2011 Q1: $13,227.9
2011 Q2: $13,270.1

For which year are the real figures higher?

President Obama told a crowd at a battery plant in Holland, Michigan, that Republicans must “find a way to put country ahead of party.”

Another case of do as I say, not as I do.


From your own linked page, the GDP at the end of 2007 was $13.326 Trillion, while today it is measured at $13.270 Trillion. Per Rush’s comment, he is correct, yet, you say his fact is not a fact at all. To me, you are just grasping now in order to “prove” your assertion, and failing miserably.

@johngalt, #11:

Indeed, the 2011 2nd quarter projection for the current year is lower than the final 2007 figure.

The statement I made concerning the 2007/2011 comparison was incorrect. At this point the projected GDP for 2011 is $55.9 billion less than the 2007 GDP.

Even the most liberal of newspapers, the Los Angeles Times, can become more balanced in its coverage when it sees its own circulation numbers circling the drain.

Actual title of LATimes story:
On Day 938 of his presidency,
Obama says he’ll have a jobs
plan in a month or so

The New York Times had a hit piece on Congressman Issa.

In that piece they talked about his “gleaming office building overlooking a golf course.”

You gotta see the actual building and the view from Issa’s office!

Apparently the NYTimes has never heard of Google Maps.
One has only to search for the address to get a street view which shows the “gleaming office building overlooking a golf course” is in fact a four-story concrete and glass box overlooking a freeway.

The NYTimes should be ashamed!
Other major errors dealt with in link above.


I really wish people would keep it about the Constitution instead of some “holly” texts.

The reason that we have the constitution that we do and the government that we do is because of those holy texts. Almost every founding father was a believer in Jesus Christ and most of them saw the creation of the United States and the constitution as an act of God. You may choose to believe that they were deluded for that, but how is it that we have been blessed unlike any other nation on earth? And how is it that other nations are blessed through us?

We will see in our lifetimes the power of God. When we got heavily involved in South Korea and Japan, there were a lot of missionaries and Bibles involved (Douglas MacArthur called for Bibles and missionaries). End result: these are the greatest allies that we have in Asia.

On the other hand, we have done everything that we could do to restrict the good news of Jesus Christ from going into Iraq or Afghanistan. How great will these countries be as allies of ours 50 years from now?

You need more proof of the power of the Word of God? Tiny England colonized about a quarter of the world, bringing law and order, missionaries and Bibles all over the world. To look at tiny England and all of the nations and land it controlled is awe inspiring. And you will note, as Christianity and the Bible became less and less important in England, the more that their empire crumbled.

But, what I believe in with all my heart is your right to choose not to believe in Jesus Christ. Just remember, that is a choice you are making.

@Nan G: One of the best headlines ever, Nan.