Taxes and Fairness? Another Take [Reader Post]

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anticsrocks’ post about “fairness and taxes” really hit home. He made some very good points about this country’s tax burden and what Obama says. So I thought I would (presumptively) venture into the fairness and taxes foray and see if I can offer additions to anticsrocks’ excellent post.

The late (and IMHO great) Paul Harvey said it best: “Corporations don’t pay taxes.” By that, he went on to explain, he meant that higher tax costs are passed on to consumers. So, with that in mind, let’s look at what Obama and Democrats proposes as “fair” with respect to taxes. Let’s also examine fairness and how higher taxes effect jobs and the economy.

Fairness?

Dr. Thomas Sowell, in February of 2010, wrote a four-part essay entitled “The Fallacy of Fairness.” In his essay he made some very good points. I would like to share some of those points.

In part 1, he starts, “If there is ever a contest to pick which word has done the most damage to people’s thinking, and to actions to carry out that thinking, my nomination would be the word “fair.” It is a word thrown around by far more people than have ever bothered to even try to define it. This mushy vagueness may be a big handicap in logic but it is a big advantage in politics. All sorts of people, with very different notions about what is or is not fair, can be mobilized behind this nice-sounding word, in utter disregard of the fact that they mean very different things when they use that word.”

He continues in part 2, “A recent flap in a Berkeley high school reveals what a farce “fairness” can be. Because this is ultra-liberal Berkeley, perhaps we should not be surprised that a proposal has been made to eliminate four jobs as science teachers and use the money saved for programs to help low achievers. In Berkeley black and Latino students are not performing as well as Asian and white students. According to the principal, “Our community at Berkeley High School has failed the African-Americans.” Therefore “We need to bring everybody up – that’s what this plan is about.” Surely no one seriously believes that you will “bring everybody up” by eliminating science teachers. This is a proposal to redistribute money from science to social work, by providing every student with advisors on note-taking, time management and other learning skills. The point is to close educational gaps among groups, or at least go on record as trying. As with most equalization crusades, whether in education or in the economy, it is about equalizing downward, by lowering those at the top. “Fairness” strikes again!”

In part 3, he says, “Most of us want to be fair, in the sense of treating everyone equally. We want laws to be applied the same to everyone. We want educational, economic or other criteria for rewards to be the same as well. But this concept of fairness is not only different from prevailing ideas of fairness among many of the intelligentsia, it contradicts their idea of fairness. Society may lavish thousands of dollars per year on schooling for a youngster who does not bother to study, and yet when he or she emerges as a semi-literate adult, it is considered to be society’s fault if such youngsters cannot get the same kinds of jobs and incomes as other youngsters who studied conscientiously during their years in school.”

He makes a very strong point by saying, “Disregarding criteria in the interest of “fairness” – in the sense of outcomes independent of inputs – adds to the handicaps of those who already have other handicaps, by lying to them about the reasons for their situation and the things they need to do to make their situation better.”

Dr. Sowell concludes in part 4 by stating, “Fairness as equal treatment does not produce fairness as equal outcomes. The confusion between the two meanings of the same word has created enormous mischief, much of it at the expense of lagging groups, who have been distracted from the things that would enable them to catch up. And whole societies have been kept in a turmoil pursing a will o’ the wisp in the name of “fairness.”

We have from Dr. Sowell a good discussion of “fairness.” Now let’s turn our attention to Obama’s definition of “fairness” and consequences for the tax code and the economy.

Obama’s View of Fairness, Taxes, and the Economy

In his article at The Weekly Standard, Arthur C. Brooks says, “According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the “angry rich,” as Krugman calls them, are “wallowing in self-pity and self-righteousness.” The president talks in moral terms about the need to raise taxes. It is, he claims, a matter of basic fairness. Obama says, “There’s nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires.” Brooks then continues, “For the administration, it’s not about the money – as we have heard again and again, it’s about “fairness.” The president believes that we will be a better nation if we redistribute more money from those who have more to those who have less.”

For more on Obama’s definition of “fairness” and economic consequences, we turn to Ralph R. Reiland‘s article. Says J.D. Foster, Ph.D., a senior fellow in fiscal policy economics at the Heritage Foundation, “Obama is willing to trade losses in jobs and wages to advance his political ideology for tax fairness. The President is intentionally sacrificing jobs in the pursuit of his own notions of fairness with little or no hope of increasing revenues in the process.” Says Reiland, “The “intentionally” part is open to debate, but it’s fairly certain that Obama puts wealth redistribution, income leveling, and fairness on the front burner, ahead of economic growth, job creation and economic liberty in his list of priorities.”

Continues Reiland, “A key objective in his economic program, as candidate Obama explained to Joe the Plumber, Joe Wurzelbacher, is the redistribution of income and wealth, by way of higher taxes on “the rich.” “I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody,” Obama told Wurzelbacher.”

Reiland concludes, “Here, for example, is the exchange between candidate Obama and moderator Charlie Gibson during a presidential debate regarding Obama’s proposal to increase the tax on capital gains from 15 percent to 28 percent. “In each instance when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased – the government took in more money,” said Gibson. “And in the 1980s when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?” Replied Obama, “Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.”

Obama’s goal appears to be a soaking of “the rich” in the pursuit of what he defines as “fairness.”

Tax Code Purposes and Fairness?

As this article byJoseph J. Minarik states, there are four primary objectives of our tax code. They are:

  1. Simplicity: Simplicity means that compliance by the taxpayer and enforcement by the revenue authorities should be as easy as possible.
  2. Efficiency: Efficiency means that taxation interferes as little as possible in the choices people make in the private marketplace.
  3. Revenue Sufficiency: Revenue sufficiency might seem a fairly obvious criterion of tax policy. Yet the federal government’s budget has gone from enormous deficit to large surplus, and back again, in just ten years. Part of the reason for the deficit is that revenue sufficiency may conflict with efficiency and fairness.
  4. Fairness: Fairness requires that equally situated taxpayers pay equal taxes (“horizontal equity”) and that better-off taxpayers pay more tax (“vertical equity”). Although these objectives seem clear enough, fairness is very much in the eye of the beholder. Most people believe that fairness dictates that taxes be “progressive,” meaning that higher-income taxpayers pay not only more, but also proportionately more. However, a significant minority takes the position that tax rates should be flat, with everyone paying the same proportion of their taxable income. Moreover, the idea of vertical equity (i.e., the “proper” amount of progressivity) often directly contradicts another notion of fairness, the “benefit principle.” According to this principle, those who benefit more from the operations of government should pay more tax.

That brings us to Rep. Jan Schakowsky’s (D-Ill.) “Fairness In Taxation Act.” Rep. Schakowsky introduced legislation today that would add fairness to the nation’s tax system by ensuring that millionaires and billionaires pay their fair share. Schakowsky says the Fairness in Taxation Act, with more than a dozen co-sponsors, is: about fairness. The bill enacts new tax brackets for income starting at $1 million and ends with a $1 billion bracket. “This isn’t about punishment or revenge. It’s about fairness,” Schakowsky said. “It’s about avoiding budget cuts that harm middle class families and those who aspire to it. The bill also would tax capital gains and dividend income as ordinary income for those taxpayers with income above $1 million. If enacted in 2011, the bill would raise an estimated $78.9 billion in its first year, according to Citizens for Tax Justice.

The Fairness in Taxation Act would add new tax brackets for income starting at $1 million and ends with a $1 billion bracket. The new brackets would be:

  • $1 – $10 million: 45%
  • $10 – $20 million: 46%
  • $20 – $100 million: 47%
  • $100 million – $1 billion: 48%
  • $1 billion and over: 49%

Tax Effects on Jobs

Rep. Peter Roskam, (R-IL) at The Daily Caller. says, “The path to economic recovery, debt reduction, and job creation is not through tax increases, however, but through cutting spending and reforming our onerous tax code – the single greatest thing we can do to give job-creators more confidence in their futures.”

In an article by William Beach , Rea Hederman, Jr. , John Ligon , Guinevere Nell and Karen Campbell, Ph.D., at The Heritage Foundation, say, President Obama has advanced a tax plan that reverses this tax policy. Rather than continuing the pattern of tax reduction and reform, the President and his supporters in Congress and elsewhere are calling for tax increases, primarily on upper-income taxpayers and businesses. Many of these individuals are small-business owners, the primary job creators. Enacting this tax plan would have serious, adverse consequences for economic activity, and sharply lower the rate of economic growth.

The effects of a lower rate of economic growth include:

  • Slower economic growth: Inflation-adjusted gross domestic product (GDP) would fall by a total of $1.1 trillion between FY 2011 and FY 2020. GDP in 2018 would fall by $145 billion alone. The growth rate of the economy would be slower for the entire 10-year period.
  • Fewer jobs: Slower economic growth would result in less job creation. Employment would fall by an average of 693,000 per year over this period 238,000 fewer jobs in the critical economic recovery year of 2011; In one year alone, 2016, job losses top 876,000.
  • More unemployed Americans: Slower growth in employment translates to a higher unemployment rate, which would rise more each year during the 10-year period than it would without the Obama tax hikes.

The economic harm is significant and widespread. Individuals and households throughout the income distribution will bear the brunt of the economic slowdown, resulting in fewer employment opportunities, lower wages, lost consumption, and lower savings. Congress needs to understand that it will raise additional revenues on the backs of those citizens it often works to help through income redistribution programs.

Donald Lambro, at TownHall, says, “Prescribing tax hikes of that size, of any size, in this painfully slow-paced economy would be the medical equivalent of bleeding a bedridden patient suffering from acute anemia. What American businesses need most right now is an economy-wide transfusion of fresh capital investment via tax-rate cuts offset by major spending cuts.”

Katie Pavlich, at TownHall, says, “Las Vegas’ Wynn CEO Steve Wynn, who said President Obama and his “weird” political philosophy are “the greatest wet blanket to business, and progress and job creation in my lifetime,” the co-founder of Home Depot Bernie Marcus took direct shots at the Obama Administration during an interview with Investors Business Daily, backing up Wynn’s claim that business is terrified of the administration and smothering regulations in an extremely volatile and uncertain economic environment. Keep in mind, Marcus co-founded Home Depot in 1978 during the Carter Administration, which gives you an idea of how bad things really are in 2011 under Obama and says he wouldn’t have been able to develop his successful company today because of heavy government regulation.”

Where are we?

We see that Obama wants to raise taxes out of (what he calls) fairness. We see what Obama and the Democrats (like Rep. Schakowsky) propose to do to the tax codes. We also see the effects of higher taxes on the economy and on jobs.

But that’s just my opinion.

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Warren,

I always enjoy reading your posts. so well documented and organized. Of course, one always has me whenever the great Thomas Sowell is quoted!

All good points above, but unfortunately, words that will be lost on the hard left morons who now rule the roost! Blinded by their ideology and guided by someone who dearly believes in not income redistribution but in fact confiscation of anything inherent with one’s success, I’m afraid the destruction of our economy and our country will continue unabated! One only has to take the following statement into account to realize how bad it really is!

“The U.S. debt surpassed 100 percent of gross domestic product after the government’s debt ceiling was lifted, Treasury figures showed Wednesday, according to AFP”.
Again, well done!

Wrong question.
Fairness is the game of children. Ever watch kids play a game? “That’s not fair.” As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, fairness is in the eye of the observer. And there is no observer-independent possibility in the detection of fair / not fair.
The proper question is one of morality or ethics. What is the ethical or moral issue involving the funding of a government? What are the different government models, and how do they work for the general population?
One model is the State model. In the State model, a subset of the general population, the leadership / elite / oligarchy / plutocracy (choose your own) makes all decisions for everyone about who will have what. See Plato for a summary of the various types of States. The morality for kings, for instance, was that kings were chosen by God, and therefore must be obeyed. The proof that they were chosen was that they held office. We have seen endless examples of States: in our time, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Syria, Taliban Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, and others lay bare the sterility and futility of States.
As Robert Heinlein observed, “who decides?”
The State model has prevailed throughout human history, with little to show for its troubles.
The alternative model is freedom. Yes, freedom. Allow the people to make their own decisions. Fund the government by having everyone chip in some modest fraction (10% or 15%) of their wealth to fund those things which only a State can do (raise an army, establish currency). The advantage of freedom is that the decision maker either profits or suffers directly from his/her decision. You either become wealthy or go bankrupt.
Note that in the State model the decision maker has no skin in the game: the result of the decision has no bearing on the quality of life of said decider.
Under which system do advances occur? What States have produced discovery? Under what conditions were advances in materials science, biological science, public health, longevity, and so on made? Not in Cuba. Not in the U.S.S.R. Not in any State regime that I know of.
Socialism (the Welfare State) is a State system. A subset of the people decide who gets what money. This money is termed an “entitlement,” as if, by simply being alive, one is entitled to the money. This is a deliberate perversion of inheritance. If your parents make a lot of money, you inherit some of it when your parents die. Entitlements make the State into our parents; the State, although not dying, then allows us to inherit money. Is that moral?
Where is the morality in asserting that an individual is entitled to housing? Or entitled to food? Or entitled to health care? Or entitled to permanent life support? Where is the morality in confiscating the assets of some, in order to entitle others with freebies? On what authority is “title” granted to property?
In fact, the Welfare State is flagrantly unethical. The provision of entitlements is not without cost; the recipients of the entitlements are expected to vote for those who will continue the payout. This is profligate vote-buying, which cannot possibly end up well. “Take from the few, give to the many” is a no-win proposition. Where is the incentive to produce? Cut off the incentive to produce, and the producers will leave town.
This happened in New Jersey, according to Gov. Christie’s economic research. Their tax base got up and walked away.
What is Rush Limbaugh doing in Florida? He used to pay taxes in New York. He moved.
Why do so many multinational Corporations have headquarters outside the US? Taxes.
When the Welfare State confiscates ALL the assets of ALL U S Citizens, how will they convert those assets into money? Who will these assets be sold to? How long can the Federal Government continue to pay out these “essential” entitlements, even with 100% confiscation?
Sorry. The current system is broken. The full faith and credit in the U S Government is going, going, gone.

Warren Beatty,
you’re a pro. that is why I could understand this so complicated subject,
those who advocate the WEALTH DISTRIBUTION, HAVE IT UPSIDE DOWN,
THEIR MIND ANALYZE THE CONTRARY OF WHAT THEY LEARNED,
AND ARE DRIVING THIS NATION DOWN SO FAST THAT NOW THE ONE USE TO BE IGNORANT ON THE SUBJECT,
PEOPLE CAN SEE THE DESTRUCTION OF A NATION OF ENTREPRENEURS LEAVING BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING STRESS TO THE MAX, AND UNABLE TO CREATE ANY MORE FOR JOBS TO GET IN THE NEW MARKET BECAUSE OF THOSE INNOVATORS RENDERED DEPRESS BY THE MANY LONG HARM OF THE GOVERNMENT’S MULTIPLE AGENCIES AIMING TO IMPOSE ON THEIR WORK THAT PREVENT THEM TO BE THEIR OWN MASTER, IN THEIR OWN BUSYNESS SO TO ADD TO THEIR SUCCESSFUL HARD WORK;
THIS GOVERNMENT HAS SUCCEED TO DEPRESS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE JOB MARKET,
AND LOOK WHAT WE SEE NOW, TOTAL DESPAIR.

I try to explain the dire straits of our economy to the soldiers deployed with me in Afghanistan thusly:

The US is like a family of 4, with a monthly income of $2000, and 5 credit cards with limits of $5000 each. Ever since FDR imposed the social security ponzi scheme on us, the US government has been taking out cash loans to buy the votes of the uneducated – analogous to our family of 4 taking out cash from each of the credit cards to buy whatever they wnat at any particular moment, including cash to pay their regular household bills. There has been no increase in the family’s monthly income, and after a period of time, all 5 credit cards are maxed out. They can’t borrow any more money against their credit limits, and now they have monthly interest payments of $1250 to the 5 credit card companies. Their mortgage payment and utilities are $750/month, so the family doesn’t have enough income to buy food, school clothes, cable TV, cell phones or internet access, much less a car payment, gasoline and car insurance. The tea party is saying the way to solve things is to cut expenses and talks about family members having to go find extra work to earn more money to get the debt paid off over time. Obviously our family members aren’t thrilled about having to make do with less and having to go out and work more. Now the democrats come along with their marxist snake oil and try to tell the family members that it isn’t fair for the family members to have to suffer when their rich neighbors (who have been working harder and saving money without running up all the credit debt) have all kinds of extra money. The democrats weave another web of Keynesian deceipt and try to convince the family that the answer is for them to get 2 more credit cards with $5000 credit limit and spend even more money, and that their “rich” neighbors should have to start paying off all the family’s credit debt.

What’s disheartening to me is that all these soldiers had just arrived in Afghanistan when Obama went on TV and said he would veto the bill that a GOP congressman introduced back in April that would have ensured soldiers were paid (since we are fighting in 3 wars at the moment) even if the budget situation led to a government shutdown. They were angry then, but now just 4 months later, these same soldiers have not taken the time to understand the absolute evil of what the democrats are doing to our economy and spout off nonsense about how the Tea Party just wants to hurt poor people. How can we win back our constitutional republic when the people who are charged with defending it cannot be bothered to actually learn what our political leaders are trying to do to us?

Babydock, hi,
yes for sure, you said it so clear, that if they are not listening, they are in the group of many
that had been burned by the SUBLIMINAL propagande messages on BIG MEDIA’S NEWS they only follow,
so well that they’re out of reach, and they will challenge the facts that their
DEMOCRATIC PARTY ARE OKAY; UNTIL THEY SEE THEM CRUMBLING BEFORE OUR EYES TRYING TO SAVE THEIR PARTY AGAINST THE PRESIDENT FAILIURE TO DO HIS JOB BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HAVE ENOUGH SKILL TO RUN THIS AMERICA, SO HE WANT TO PUT ALL IN THE SAME MEDIOCRITY LIFE HE HAS HIMSELF BEEN BORN IN. AND SEVED LIKE A SPOIL BRAT DEMANDING TO BE FED AND
AND PUTTING A TANTRUM ,IF IT DIDEN’T COME HIS WAY FAST ENOUGH, JUST THE BULLY’S STYLE WE SEE IN MANY WALK OF LIFE.
SO HE IS DOING JUST THAT NOW, IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND NOBODY IS LIKING IT MUCH,
GET READY FOR THE NEXT NOVEMBER, AND THE PARTY WILL BE UGE,
STAY SAFE Y’ALL , WE THINK OF WHAT COURAGE YOU ALL HAVE,
THE TEA PARTY ARE THERE FOR YOU, THEY CARE FOR THE BRAVEST LIKE YOU.
AND IF THEY SHOUT, AT GOVERNMENT ,THAT MEANS THEY KNOW SOMETHING WE DON’ T, YET
BUT THEY WILL TELL ALL BEFORE NOVEMBER.
BYE

Consider these two cases;

One, which is what actually happened, is that following the dotcom bust and 9/11, taxes were reduced to help spur economic growth. It can be argued that it did just that. It can also be argued that the economic growth happened due to the “cycle of business”, and that growth would have happened without the lowering of taxes, which brings me to;

Two, taxes were not lowered, and economic growth happened anyway.

We now come to the point where it is being argued that taxes should be increased. There are a variety of reasons for advocating this, including the “fairness” argument and the argument about federal revenues due to higher taxes.

My stance is that regardless of what happened in the past, those taxes should not be raised one little bit, and I state this based on what happened when the taxes were lowered.
-Prices did not drop when taxes were lowered. Businesses enjoyed an increased profit amount that many to most funneled right back into their businesses.
-Individual taxpayers enjoyed an immediate increase in buying power, due to more take-home pay, and a lower burden of taxation for which they owed less at reconciliation time(April 15th).
-With the increase in buying power, demand for goods went up, facilitating the growth of businesses, particularly as those businesses reinvested profits back into themselves, and a cycle of growth happened until a new, higher equilibrium of the basic supply and demand curve was established.

What will happen with a tax increase? Well, consider the following;
-Individual buying power will be diminished, and demand will drop for nearly everything, but mostly for the “wants” of consumers, including those “extras” like new electronics, eating out, and entertainment. That buying power is diminished because of less take-home pay, and pricing of goods remaining steady due to the immediate lower profit margin on goods as businesses add in the higher taxation to their price of manufacture, or supply, of that good. Some businesses that enjoyed the previous economic growth, and by expanding territory, and/or into other products or services, have similar profit margins than they did under the Clinton-era tax rates, due to adding the cost of that expansion into their current products, and due to the increased demand from those lower taxes, were able to do so and remain profitable because the demand increased. So, lower take home pay, and a higher burden come reconciliation time, coupled with the same pricing, or increased pricing, of the goods(products and services) they demand, lowers their purchasing power.
-Businesses, due to a tax hike, will see their profit margins decrease due to the added tax burden upon themselves, and have two options; One, raise prices to maintain similar profit margins. Two, keep prices steady, and see a lessened ability to reinvest in their businesses. Either one of those affects the demand on their products, and the second affects capital investing in business.
-Considering the current economic atmosphere, both of the above will have severe negative effects upon the economy, derailing the chances for any sustained economic recovery.

So, if one is in favor of higher taxation, for whatever reason, the very fact that taxes were lowered under Bush, and the current economic climate, should be deterrents, at least currently, for the advocation to raise taxes. If the Clinton-era tax rates seemed nearly perfect to one, in regards to economic growth and government revenue, it would have been better if taxes hadn’t been lowered. However, considering that they had, and the known negative effects on economic activity when taxes are raised, we should not even consider raising taxes now.

This doesn’t, of course, address the issue of “fairness”. That wasn’t my point or intent. It does, however, address the issue of whether or not raising taxes, or maintaining the current rates, is the best option. And, what’s more, this is independent of government revenues. Government spending and revenues are NOT the economy, and the issue of lessened revenues for the government(if one believes the current tax rates result in this) should NOT be taken into account. The concern should be solely for the state of the economy itself. Once the economy recovers, then, and only then, should the issue of whether or not to raise taxes be taken up.

I believe that,THE WHOLE DEMOCRATS party has a strong leaning not on AMERICA BUT ON THE UN WORLD ORGANISATION, AND MANY THINGS MAKE US BELIEVE THAT FACT,
the way they from the beginning bow to other GOVERNMENTS, even those who are lodging the terrorist and their hate to the US, JUST THE WAY THE CUDELING IS WITH THE BROTHERHOOD ,
AND JUST THE WAY THEY TOLD OTHER ALLIED PRESIDENT TO GET THE HELL OUT AND MAKE ROOM FOR THE REVOLUTION, AND JUST THE WAY THEY SENT HILARY IN THOSE COUNTRYS TO MAKE DEALS OF MULTI MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE AMERICANS DON’T HAVE AND ARE PAYING FOR,
AND THE AID THEY GIVE TO HAMAS WHILE THEY TURNED ON AN IMPORTANT OTHER ALLIE WHICH
ISRAEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN OBAMA ORDERED HIM TO GIVE LAND TO ENNEMIES STILL ON THE QUEST TO KILL ISRAEL
PEOPLE; , ALL THE ARAB SPRING AND REVOLTS THAT HAS SPROUT OUT OF THOSE ORDERS, IS VERY SUSPICIOUS, AND WITH REASON ,
so they don’t seem to give an interest to AMERICAN SUFFERING, THEY EVEN THREATEN THEM TO CUT THEIR NEED, AND CUT THE MILITARIES WHILE THEY ARE FIGHTING THE WAR FOR THEM, ON THE DEBT CEILING EVENT
THEY ALSO TOLD THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS TO LET A VILE PRISONER LIVED BECAUSE OF THE UN DICTATED IT AND WARN OF REPRISAL IF THE SENTENCE WOULD APPLY,
THEY THE DEMOCRATS ALSO MINGLE WITH ARIZONA WHO WANTED THEM TO DO THE CLEANING ILLEGAL JOB, AND HAD TO DO IT THEM SELF BEING THREATENED BY THEM AND IMAGINE INVITING THE PRESIDENT CALDERONE TO SUPPORT THEIR THREATS,
SO MANY MORE CLUES LIKE THE WISCONSIN MEDELING TO SUPPORT THE UNION RIOTS,
SO THE AMERICANS CANNOT EXPECT TOO MUCH BECAUSE THE INTEREST IS NOT FOR THEM EVEN IF THE OATH WAS SEALED WHEN THEY TOOK THE JOB.
BUT THEIR HEART ARE NOT THERE

Excellent article, Warren! Thanks for the mention, btw.

Your aritcle reminds me of a quote by Abraham Lincoln. –

We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men’s labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name – liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names – liberty and tyranny.” The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume VII, “Address at Sanitary Fair, Baltimore, Maryland” (April 18, 1864), p. 301-302.

A great quote by a great man and it ties in with your OP about “fairness.”

@anticsrocks: anticsrocks, re: response # 8, I must say that your citation of the Abraham Lincoln quote is quite appropriate here. Isn’t it amazing how words can mean so many things to different people? I guess most people won’t take the time to use a dictionary! As Rush Limbaugh says, “Words mean things.”

And your post about taxes and fairness REALLY hit home.

If the colleges and universities were really interested in educating our citizens and “fairness,” they would lower the class, labs fees and tuition costs so that more people could afford to go to college. The outrageous, beyond the cost of living inflation rate of higher learning is shutting out far too many adults, and adding to the “dumbing-down” of America. All these overpaid “educators” should be ashamed of themselves.

Ditto, you said something very important about what the educators have allowed the imposition to demand the downgrade of learning to get even marks between the young, and by doing this they are taken away the challenged needed to the young to rise toward higher learning and higher effort of brain power to become self sufficIent to judge by them self the right path to go in order to excel in life,
that again might have been impose deliberate by the government to homogenize the youth
as to become less individuals and more united in their ability to follow the agenda of COMMUNIST MARXIST
THEY WANT INSTALL IN THE SYSTEM OF EDUCATION,
THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS, to rob the identity of one to
favor the identity of all; AND WE SEEM TO BEGIN TO NOTICE SOME CLEARER EVIDENCE OF IT.
FROM OBSERVING AGAIN THE BEHAVIOR OF THE YOUNG AIMING TO UNIFY TO BECOME ONE VOICE IN WHAT MATTER TO THEM. JUST A START, BUT ALREADY PERCEIVEBLE