Weiner Gets A Grip On Reality


Hillary views Huma "As A Daughter" Yea Right!

Is Weiner’s ignoble retirement a Conservative victory? No, not really, it is a victory for traditional American values. Weiner is a borderline pervert, who will either straighten up his life or fall deeper into more dangerous perversions, for his sake, I hope he gets ahold of himself before it is too late.

We as Americans have a share in the shame of his lying and false criminal accusations, because we have been lenient in dealing with lies and corruption from our leaders in Washington. Even now, Weiner will have an attractive retirement plan when he turns 62 of $48,000 a year. Presumably, the looming inflation he has helped promote will wipe that out and make it a trivial amount, but we will be supporting his perversions for the rest of his life, once he is officially retired. This is a stain on America that will be with us for a while.

Weiner has only been a symptom of a much larger problem; hopefully, he will ride into the sunset and disappear forever. Unfortunately, there is the question of whether his wife, Huma, is an agent for the Muslim Brotherhood, the connections are there with her mother being a member of the “sisterhood”. It is a fact that her family is Fundamentalist islam and deep within the Muslim Brotherhood. Unless Huma is a Fifth Columnist, Fundamentalist Isamists kill their women for speaking to a non-Muslim. The information will undoubtably be coming out in the near future, but the fact that hillary Clinton has an Islamic Fundamentalist as a confidant within her State Department will dwarf the Weinergate story. In the tradition of FDR and the Soviet spies he kept for confidantes, while steadfastly refusing to believe the FBI reports that they were spies, history is repeating itself.

Was Huma Abedin — wife of Anthony Weiner and deputy chief of staff to Hillary Clinton — unaware that her mother was reported as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood? Did Western media miss what has been revealed in several Arab newspapers and left secret in American government circles?

Al-Liwa Al-Arabi (translated here) claims to have leaked an extensive list, partially published by Al-Jazeera and several other major Arab newspapers, that includes Huma’s mother, Saleha Abedin, in the Brotherhood’s secret women’s division — known as the Muslim Sisterhood or International Women’s Organization (IWO).

Information about the IWO can readily be found at the Muslim Brotherhood’s official website. An excerpt from its goal, translated from the Arabic, states:

“The Women Organization’s goal, in accordance with the Muslim Brotherhood rules, is to gain and acquire a unified global perception in every nation in the world regarding the position of women, and the necessity of advocacy work at all levels in accordance with the message of the Brotherhood, as written in Women in Muslim Society, and the rearing of women throughout the different stages of life”.

The Egyptian paper Al-Dostor revealed that the Sisterhood includes 63 international members across 16 different countries — a claim confirmed by the Arab Center for Studies, headed by researcher Abdul Rahim Ali.

Neither Huma nor any major Western media outlets even mention this bit of common knowledge in the Arab world.

But there is more. Also confirmed by Arab sources is that Huma Abedin has a brother who works at Oxford University named Hassan Abedin. Oxford, which has long been infiltrated by Islamists who founded the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies (OCIS), has Huma’s brother listed as a fellow and partner with a number of Muslim Brotherhood members on the Board — including al-Qaeda associate Omar Naseef and the notorious Muslim Brotherhood leader Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi. Both have been listed as OCIS trustees. Naseef continues to serve as Board chairman.

In 2009, Qaradawi’s role within Oxford and the Muslim Brotherhood was championed by the notorious Sheikh Rached Ghannouchi of Al-Nahda – a Muslim Brotherhood affiliate now active in Tunisia. OCIS has even presented an award for great scholarly achievement to Brotherhood member Shaykh Abd Al-Fattah Abu Gudda, whose personal history goes back to the Brotherhood’s founder, Hasan al-Banna.

Even the Sunday Times acknowledges that the cradle of Islamic jihad — Al-Azhar University — actively attempts to establish links with OCIS, where Huma’s brother serves.

Was Huma unaware of all this as she accompanied Hillary Clinton to the Dar El-Hekma women’s college in Saudi Arabia? Huma’s mother is co-founder and vice dean at the college and an active missionary on issues regarding Muslim women.

Another member listed as belonging to the Sisterhood mentioned by Al-Jazeera is Suheir Qureshi. Alongside Huma’s mother, Saleha Abedin, as well as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who was brought in due to her connection with Huma, Qureshi spoke on issues of women in Muslim society. An Arabic news report of what happened during Hillary’s visit stated that:

Suheir Qureshi spoke of how elated she was of Hillary’s historic visit…. Saleha Abedin spoke after Suheir Qureshi and beamed in the presence of Secretary Clinton. Saleha’s speech preceded the former first lady’s. Then Hillary stood. She donned a broad smile as she approached the podium….Clinton started with a strong word and she spent a long time complimenting Dr. Saleha Abedin regarding her daughter. Hillary explained that Huma holds an important and sensitive position in her office. She ended her speech by speaking of Saleha Abedin’s daughter (Huma), that a person must be happy if mentioned in a positive light but there is no happiness that equals the compliment given to children in front of a parent.

It is sacrilege in Islam for Huma’s mother to accept the reality that her daughter is married to a Jew. Yet neither Saleha nor Huma’s brother Hassan denounces her marriage to Weiner, especially when it was considered null and void by some of the highest authorities on Islamic Sharia rulings.

Hillary Clinton signed a document less than one month prior to her trip to Saudi Arabia with Huma that lifted the ban on Tariq Ramadan, allowing him entry into the United States. (Ramadan is the grandson of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hasan al-Banna, and has ties to Islamic terrorist groups.) The Clinton family played a key role in promoting Fethullah Gülen, the extremely powerful Turkish imam and notorious Islamist conspirator, as he fled Turkey for the United States after attempting to overthrow Turkey’s secular government. (He was indicted on this charge in 2000.) In 2008, the former president heaped praise on Gülen, giving him a clean slate. Gülen has been given refuge and has even had sermons aired on Turkish television during which he explained to his followers how to best seize power from the Turkish government:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers… until the conditions are ripe….Until that time, any step taken would be too early — like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside.

Americans have so little faith in the politicians of Washington and Weiner has lowered that level of trust even more, but it has become a group effort. Our president is intent on being able to use missiles and rockets against nations indefinitely, after consulting with the UN, NATO, and the Arab League, while ignoring our congress and its authority. The president being called the most powerful man in the world has taken on a new meaning. Pelosi’s wealth increasing by 62% during the last two years only adds to the mistrust Americans have for our government. In the mean time, Obama has pledged $2 Billion to Palestine, $2 Billion to Egypt, $20 Billion to Arab Spring, offered $1 Billion ‘loan guarantee’ to Egypt to back their faulty credit standing. President Obama seems willing to give the shirt off his back to those in need; except, for one minor detail, it’s not his money: it is the money and future of the US taxpayer being given to the Muslim Brotherhood and to those we have been at war with and will likely be at war with for decades to come. He can justify the “Loans” by borrowing from China, thus helping their economy and giving the money to the Muslim Brotherhood and when Hyper Inflation kicks in, the money wont be worth anything and will be much easier for our children and grandchildren to pay off his profligate generosity among his Arab friends.

Hopefully, Weiner will be able to live off his wife’s double income, (assuming she has a handsome salary as a Fifth Columnist for the Muslim Brotherhood, a group now being subsidized by the US taxpayer courtesy of President Obama) until he can find a job and drift into obscurity. Another Progressive Socialist will be elected from his district and the wheels will keep turning; hopefully, the new Progressive wheel from Queens will be quieter and have more integrity. But we would be considered to be naive to think that the corruption and dishonesty is over with Weiner’s resignation.

Like most American’s, I believe Weiner is only a symptom of a large problem afflicting politicians who view themselves above the law and immune to the laws of governance that most of us respect. Congressmen like Rangel and Waters stand out as corruption that is excused and swept under the carpet. We can no longer tolerate these abuses. We must clean up Washinton and make it function according to the Rule of Law and the Constitution. Insisting that Clinton as Secretary of State purge her department of potential spies is a first step toward establishing trust: if her relationship is too close to Huma to fire her, Hillary should resign her position.

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I have to right to decide whether I think the story is bogus and a partisan witch hunt.

You sound right out of the front pages way back during Watergate, Tom.
The fact that the reporters on the story were 1 republican and 1 democrat was lost on those who simply wanted the story to go away.
It was called a witch hunt quite often, until it all fell around Nixon’s ears.

As to America’s allies, @MataHarley: Mata, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, we have just seen that the last four times we shared intel about bomb-making factories on Pakistani soil, the Pakistani’s gave enough of a head’s up to the bomb-makers that nothing was there by the time they could be targeted.
As for the Saudis, a new study reiterates what older studies had already found:
80% of mosques in the USA are teaching jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism……

“Shari’a and Violence in American Mosques,” by Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi in Middle East Quarterly, Summer 2011:


Works by several respected jurists and scholars from the four major Sunni schools of jurisprudence, dating from the eighth to fourteenth centuries, are all in agreement that violent jihad against non-Muslims is a religious obligation.[19]
Such behavior is normative, legally-sanctioned violence not confined to modern writers with a political axe to grind.
Nor does its presence in classical Muslim works make it a relic of some medieval past.
While Umdat as-Salik (Reliance of the Traveler) may have been compiled in the fourteenth century, [Cairo’s] al-Azhar University, perhaps the preeminent center of Sunni learning in the world, stated in its 1991 certification of the English translation that the book “conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community.”[20]
While addressing a host of theological matters and detailed instructions as to how Muslims should order their daily routine to demonstrate piety and commitment to Islam, this certified, authoritative text spends eleven pages expounding on the applicability of jihad as violence directed against non-Muslims, stating for example:

The caliph … makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians … provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax.[21]

The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim … because they are not a people with a book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax.[22]

The Fiqh as-Sunna and Tafsir Ibn Kathir are examples of works that were rated “moderate” for purposes of this survey.
The former, which focuses primarily on the internal Muslim community, the family, and the individual believer and not on violent jihad, was especially moderate in its endorsement of violence.
Relatively speaking, the Fiqh as-Sunna expresses a more restrained view of violent jihad, in that it does not explicitly call for a holy war against the West even though it understands the Western influence on Islamic governments as a force that is destructive to Islam itself.[23]

Nonetheless, such texts do express positive views toward the use of violence against “the other,” as expressed in the following:

Ibn Abbas reported that the Prophet, upon whom be peace, said, “The ties of Islam and the principles of the religion are three, and whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever, and his blood becomes lawful: testifying that there is no god except God, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan.” … Another narration states, “If anyone leaves one of [the three principles], by God he becomes an unbeliever, and no voluntary deeds or recompense will be accepted from him, and his blood and wealth become lawful.” This is a clear indication that such a person is to be killed.[24]

Similarly in Tafsir Ibn Kathir:

Perform jihad against the disbelievers with the sword, and be harsh with the hypocrites with words, and this is the jihad performed against them.[25]

The survey’s findings, explored in depth below, were that 51 percent of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Shari’a-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount importance to a Muslim; 30 percent had only texts that were moderately supportive of violence like the Tafsir Ibn Kathir and Fiqh as-Sunna; 19 percent had no violent texts at all.

How is all of this ”Saudi?”
Author of this study, Yerushalmi answers:

Shaikh Hisham Kabbani, a well-respected Sufi leader in the U.S., has reported to the Department of State that his personal research evidences that hard-core Salafists from the Wahhab sect of Saudi Arabia have taken control and spread “extremism” in 80% of U.S. mosques.

Freedom House under the direction of Nina Shea conducted a serious survey of major mosques in U.S. urban environments and found Wahhabi-Saudi jihad literature literally permeating these mosques. Again, while the study was of select mosques and not a random survey, it suggested a major infiltration that supported Kabbani’s reports.

Our findings that 81% of U.S. mosques contain this literature, while troubling, would not be considered surprising.
What is surprising, was the degree to which the presence of this literature was correlated with the imams actually promoting this jihad hate literature.
In other words, one might expect a mosque to have some of this material but as reference literature, not as something the imams would actively promote.
What our study found was that mosques with this literature were not merely repositories but incubators for the messaging of this material.

The Muslim Brotherhood is equivalent to a political party and has many purposes and ideological elements–and not just the single-minded one expressed by ultra-conservative right-wing bloggers like this one. This type of talk is just like the kind of Fundamentalist Christian verbiage that claims all Muslims are directed by Satan. Besides, Huma’s mother’s position does not necessarily determine her own. This fallacy in thinking is commonly referred to as ‘guilt by association’.

@Liberal1 (objectivity):

This fallacy in thinking is commonly referred to as ‘guilt by association’.

As I pointed out back in post #34, Liberal1.

And you are also correct about who supports the MB.
During the 1st post ”Arab Spring” election many, many Coptic Christians and other moderates voted MB.
Their reasons?
Many different reasons.
Some simply wanted to be seen as on the side of the winner.
It has also led to Copts, Anglicans, Catholics, and human rights body rejecting the MB drafted law on places of worship in Egypt.
The ”new” MB authored law is a continuation of the “Hamayouni Decree”, which is a clause in Egyptian law that regulates church construction and maintenance, and which dates from Ottoman rule. The decree stipulates the need to obtain prior approval from the chief executive — the president in modern times — to build a new church or to expand or restore an existing one.

Just last week a Western newspaper cover the reign of terror against all of the non-Muslims in Egypt:
“Attacks on Christians: Can Egypt Deal With Extremist Mobs?” by Abigail Hauslohner for Time, June 12

Sex slavery is on the rise in Egypt.
And these slaves are from Egypt’s own non-Muslim population (since Egypt is not at war with any non-Muslim country.)

Here’s a partial transcript of an Egyptian imam:

I want to say that it is not at all permissible to take prisoners from among Muslims, even if they are heretics, because the rule for Muslims is that they are free, and not prisoners.
Do you understand what I’m saying? Spoils, slaves, and prisoners are only to be taken in war between Muslims and infidels. Muslims in the past conquered, invaded, and took over countries. This is agreed to by all scholars–there is no disagreement on this from any of them, from the smallest to the largest, on the issue of taking spoils and prisoners. The prisoners and spoils are distributed among the fighters, which includes men, women, children, wealth, and so on.

When a slave market is erected, which is a market in which are sold slaves and sex-slaves, which are called in the Qur’an by the name milk al-yamin, “that which your right hands possess” [Qur’an 4:24]. This is a verse from the Qur’an which is still in force, and has not been abrogated. The milk al-yamin are the sex-slaves. You go to the market, look at the sex-slave, and buy her. She becomes like your wife, (but) she doesn’t need a (marriage) contract or a divorce like a free woman, nor does she need a wali. All scholars agree on this point–there is no disagreement from any of them. […]

When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her.
Translation along with video here.

The National Association for Change (NAC) is a loose affiliation of anti-Mubarak groups in Egypt.
“NAC asks Muslim Brotherhood to guarantee secular state,” from AlMasry AlYoum, June 11

Eritrean Christians fleeing persecution in homeland face imprisonment, torture, beatings and sexual assault in Egypt

Rule Number One regarding all international relations; nation states interrelate whereas they are either at war or they at trade. Critical function of theDepartment of State, the second oldest department of the federal government, is to determine the relative relations between the United States and different foreign countries. Regardless of family, fortune, fine clothes, or education at George Washington University the woman Huma is a foreign national hired by the Secretary of State because supposedly, in the world of Muslimbia, she speaks the language and knows the customs with ability to rank diplomates and impress foreign heads of states. In truth this is all imaginary thinking which is the whole charade with Hillary or the likes of Madelyn Allbright learning the fine tuned dance steps of the Islam Tango. This ridiculessness is just more Obama directed incompetence smoke and mirrors; understand, for him in order to remain looking brilliant he must surround himself with lesser measures.

@Nan G, I believe I already addressed your point about less than perfect allies on another thread. Perhaps you did not see, so I shall repeat it here for you.. ,

Do I agree that Pakistan, as well as Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Saudi and Turkey are less than perfect allies? Heck yeah. That’s why I always call them quasi allies. We’ll never have the friends in them that we do in Israel because their populations do not want to be seen or considered a US puppet. About the best we can hope for from them is intelligence and some modicum of aid in the region.

As far as the Pakistan govt, alerting the terrorist… yes, that is a recurring problem. Long before Mr. Bhutto took over power from Musharraf, and even under Musharraf. It’s not necessarily because of the leadership, but because the military and pockets of the elected body are rift with rogue fundamentalists who will use that information to pass on to their jihad buds.

So, other than wringing our hands over the far from perfect relationship with Pakistan… a nuke nation who used to be an enemy… what are you suggesting? That we outright revert the relationship to being an overt enemy again? Certainly Obama’s doing a good job of attempting that path now.

Other than that, I don’t plant an onion, and expect a gardenia to pop up. They are who they are and, in reality, there is only so much they will ever do in thwarting terrorists (which some in their population and government support) in order to aid the west. We either have an enemy, or a quasi ally. I’ll take the latter.

I tell you, I couldn’t get down fast enough to mention how wacky is some of them are ,
to try to influence the young an other people in society that are already confused by their non stop propagande that they can get away with PERVERSION, as a member of GOVERNMENT!!!!
in order to approve and diminish the culpability of the pervert to save the party again, they themself described how their minds is so destabilyse as to even scare their own family who should start to watch their behavior closely
around their children, and to think that their exposy are shared by GOVERNMENT ELECTS PEOPLE is surely to insure that the civiliens will start to watch how their young, of age to strong felt emotions and desire to be loved, will be followed closely by parents having to judge those pervert by association and explained to their young how the dangers they will have to discerned in their quest to excell in the future, and expose those who call that thinking a LIBERAL WAY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
good POST, bye

Mata, when a nation arrests the very men who gave us the information on Osama bin Laden, and then makes public the name of the CIA Section Cheif so that he had to leave that nation creating a void in the “boots on the ground” intelligence, when that nation demands they be sovereign yet feels they still deserve to be supported by us and we cannot tell them how to spend the money, that nation is no longer a quasi-ally. They are a blood sucking leeach that is an enemy.

@Liberal1 (objectivity): You have got to be kidding, right? You said:

The Muslim Brotherhood is equivalent to a political party and has many purposes and ideological elements–and not just the single-minded one expressed by ultra-conservative right-wing bloggers like this one. This type of talk is just like the kind of Fundamentalist Christian verbiage that claims all Muslims are directed by Satan.

You are really bending over backwards here to prop up an organization that is intent on advancing it’s purpose through hatred, intimidation and violence. Shame on you.

THIS is the Muslim Brotherhood’s Motto:

Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.

This explains a little about the MB:

Though the Muslim Brotherhood is now viewed as a more moderate group than other Islamist organizations operation in the Middle East, such as al-Qaida, and has participated in free elections in countries where they were permitted to, messages delivered by the group’s Supreme Guides have made clear the Brotherhood remains committed to militancy. In September 2010, Muhammad Badi’ gave a sermon in which he said, “… the improvement and change that the [Muslim] nation seeks can only be attained through jihad and sacrifice and by raising a jihadi generation that pursues death, just as the enemies pursue life.”
In an effort to possibly hide their militant Islamit rules from the eyes of Western observers, the Brotherhood removed the organizational by-laws from their main English language website in mid-February 2011. The bylaws, which are still available to Arabic readers, have long been a source of discussion and debate because of the group’s stated goal of establishing an Islamic state while uniting Muslims around the world. For example, section E of the bylaws states, “Need to work on establishing the Islamic State, which seeks to effectively implement the provisions of Islam and its teachings.” Likewise, Section G reads as follows: “The sincere support for a global cooperation in accordance with the provisions of the Islamic Sharia … and constructive participation towards building a new basis of human civilization as is ensured by the overall teachings of Islam.”Source

And then we have this from the Muslim Brotherhood’s own words. In An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America:

The process of settlement is a “Civilization-Jihadist Proecess” with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack. But, would the slackers and the Mujahedeen be equal. – Source

So go ahead lib1, explain to me why this “political party” is intent on destroying our way of life from within??