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Obama will have at least 2 Supreme Court appointments. How can any conservative be happy Obama beat McCain? Any one who thinks Obama was better for the country than McCain – for whatever reason – should never again complain about Supreme Court decisions.
Can’t we just agree to concentrate on defeating Reid, Bayh, etc , whatever it takes?

No one is happy Obama beat McCain. It’s like having the Communist or the Socialist running your life. Either one is bad, but one is worse than the other.

I’m sick of voting for the lesser of two evils.

Nice shoot’n JustAl.

Fire for effect, fire for effect.

Skat,

Wrong. Conservatives just want someone who is about 60-80% in agreement with their principles. More would be better, but most of us are realists.

For example, I’d rather see a conservative Democrat in Arlen Specter’s seat in PA than a Republican Arlen Specter (Yes, I know he’s changed parties).

Fortunately, using Al’s and my logic, Specter changed parties and now a good conservative will take his seat! If Specter hadn’t changed parties we’d be stuck with a hyper-liberal in that seat.

See, by your logic any Republican is better than any Democrat.

Wrong.

As bad as Gov. Richardson (D) of New Mexico is, he’s far, far better than Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) of California. Richardson cut taxes, Arnold raised them. Richardson dramatically expanded concealed carry (introduced it in fact) while Arnold signed gun bans (.50 cals).

Ivan,
Another thing, you can’t compare Richardson to Schwarengger – they weren’t running against each other.

Richardson’s Republican opponent was John Sanchez – a self-made, small business success story. Sanchez was for cutting taxes, etc – a real conservative. Richardson doesn’t seem like the better choice when compared with his actual opponent.

Arnold replaced Gray Davis. Arnold defeated the Democrat Cruz Bustamente, a Democrat to the left of Arnold. Would you support Davis or Bustamente over Arnold?

If Arnold and Riechardson ever run against each other you’ll have a valid comparison.

Skat,

Given that I knew Arnold was a fraud (I gave $$$ to McClintock), I advised my Republican friends to either vote for McClintock or Bustamante.

Having Arnold win was the WORST outcome for the California Republican Party. As the state fell into bankruptcy, something McClintock continually warned us about, the Republicans wouldn’t be able to lay the blame at the feet of the Democrats-as we can now do at the Federal level. The Dems own the mess in DC and the Republicans will benefit tremendously by that fact.

But no. If Gray had remained in office, or Cruz had won, the Republicans could have blamed it all on the Dems.

And thus as California sits in it’s own crap the Republicans can’t blame the Democrats in California.

Arnold has been just as bad as Gray, if not worse, w/r/t spending.

Ivan & Al,
Obviously, we aren’t going to change each other’s minds, but the country would have been much worse off if Gore had won.

1) Gore wasn’t a screaming, global warming, nut job when he ran for President – he was considered a “conservative Democrat”. So how much of his legislative agenda do I think he would have gotten through Congress? A lot – he was respected as a moderate.

2) September 11 with Gore as President.

3) Gore would have accomplished his agenda with Supreme Court justice appointments.

4) We wouldn’t have gotten Roberts or Alito.

I certainly don’t agree with a lot of GW’s “accomplishments”. GW was very good on terrorism, the war, pro-life, etc ,most importantly, his Supreme Court choices. GW deserves credit for the things he did right, not just criticism for his failings.

Frustration is understandable! If anyone is telling you to sit down and shut up – don’t listen. Historically the Supreme Court appointments are a real legacy of a president. I’m thankful we got GW’s Roberts and Alito instead of Gore’s justices.

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@Wordsmith: The mistake you make is considering people like “Ivan” to be conservative.

He’s proved he’s nothing more than a reactionary MORON.

As always, I admire your effort to demonstrate considered logic as a counter to such clowns but as usual, the effort was wasted on Ivan.

The question now becomes, how much more of his drivel do we intend to tolerate?

The Liberals socialists will remain in power and be a threat to this country as long as we have so called conservatives wanting to cast their vote in protest of not conservative enough candidates. Those who do not meet their strict definition of what a conservative looks like. Have you forgot how well your protest vote for Ross Perot worked out? How about your non participation for McCain? You voter for a non winner, Ron Paul. How is Obama working out for you? The liberal left never and I mean never protest with their votes. That is why they always rally and come back. Do you not get it? They own the White House, Congress, and the Senate. They are on their way to owing the Supreme court. Wake up.

Ivan
You make my point. The liberals/progressive/socialists/communists vote in a block.
Ivan says “The same cannot be said for the milk-toast (code for white people) country club republicans who are helping to destroy America. Don’t you realize that the liberals will vote for a box of rocks as long as it runs as a democrat? If you vote for the Republican candidate as you say, good for you. The worst Republican is better than the best Liberal Democratic. A third party candidate would kill the conservative movement.

DO you think ARNOLD would ever try to become president?

Marco Rubio is proving what Reagan has already proven, run as an insurgent Conservative in the Republican Party and you will win by landslides.

Why bother building another third party when it is easier and far more effective to simply run insurgent Conservatives in the Republican Party.

PS: Arnold Schwarzenegger was always Social Liberal which by default negates Fiscal Conservatism.

Californians voted Arnold into office based primary upon his Hollywoodland ‘big-screen Terminator’ illusion.

Face it Californians, you were suckered into voting for Hollywoodland’s ‘Fake Greek Column’ as much as you were suckered into voting for ‘Big-Screen Terminator’.

Perhaps pulling your collective California head out from Hollywoodland Bill Maher’s Comedy Cavity will help clear California’s Collective head for a change.

California voters, take some responsibility for the disaster you created in your state and perhaps you will not continue repeating your same mistakes.

Mata I agree. I’ve been hammering this point on a few comment sections the last few weeks, and even back into the presidential election. There are so many groups and individuals that are using deception for many reasons.

One is the martyr for the cause, and I, perhaps the sign of craziness, but I don’t care, believe that Ron Paul and his CORE supporters were working for the express benefit of the Democrat party. I also believe that John McCain was also working for the express benefit of the Democrat party, and his only purpose was to lose the election as the Republican nominee. I believe that Ashley Todd, the woman who carved a ‘B’ in her face and then fessed up the next day wasn’t a real McCain supporter, and she did what she did, days before the election, in order to influence the election by painting Republicans and McCain supporters as racists. Not only all that, but I believe that it’s all tied together, somehow. I’m not claiming to know any of this based on anything I can link to, it’s just what I perceive.

Now we are living in times of even greater deception, and I will bet my bottom dollar that in the next two elections, the midterms and the 2012 Presidential, there will be running as Republicans and Tea Party candidates both types of infiltrator/deceivers. There will be Tea Party candidates who are real-life Mobys (if you don’t know what a Moby is, search it on Urban Dictionary), whose purpose is to martyr themselves politically in order to paint the Tea Party, conservatives, and anyone else in the Lib Enemies List as crazy racists and worse. The other sort will also be candidates running as Republicans and Tea Partiers, and their purpose will be, seeing that the pendulum is swinging back to the right, to (ENTRYISM) enter the party(ies) and use them in order to advance the same socialism and marxism that they have been advancing through the Dem party.

Every other site I comment at is downright loaded with Mobys, folks you pretty much just know are posting wildly over-the-top racist and inflammitory comments just so they can take screenshots of the “racist” commenters at fillintheblank dot com, and use this as evidence to both sway public opinion and EVEN TO GET THE SITES SHUT DOWN. This is how the left works now. “Deceive” is their number one tactic. And it’s going to get a whole lot worse.

Breitbart’s “big” sites are swarming with mobys, that is, lefties pretending to be insane racist righties. Lefties CONSTANTLY trying to, (while pretending to be righties), prod righties into writing damning things. (e.g. ConservoTX writes: so who thinks we should take this revolution up a step or two huh?)

They do this all day, every day, and there appear to be maybe one or two people that notice, but the site mods don’t even give a hoot that their site is being used like this. It’s like Malkin’s site. No moderation whatsoever. It’d be like me renting a house for people to hang out at, no rules, and never appearing. Never once seen a comment by MM at her own site. So the Moby comments stand, deceiving even the conservatives.

So yeah. The Tea Party is being hijacked. The R party will also be hijacked. And we all know who know the truth that even Christ’s church will be hijacked. All by the same sons of the devil that are doing the rest of the deceiving.

Eyes open, and if you pray, pray for some seriously powerful Discernment.

When control over the internet is stepped up “because of all the rampant racism and worse on the blogs and in their comments”, you can be damn sure that 90% of the “racism” cited was dropped at these sites by a Leftist, FOR THAT END.