Will The Hystanic Hit the Iceberg? [Reader Post]

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Wonder how many icebergs are floating in the Hysterical Sea and which one is going to take down the Hystanic. Still very little notice taken by the MSM regards Climategate , but the liberals are certainly coming down on Fox news as ‘fudging the issue’.Several commentaries are out there now suggesting that Skeptics are deliberately refusing to consider the ‘evidence’ and that their denial of AGW is nothing but arguing against the settled science. That they have serious psychological issues and are in need of counseling. Sounds a like the old USSR that sent its dissidents to the Gulag for ‘psychological indoctrination.” So much for the dust bin of history.

As much as it is being downplayed, however, the average person is not so much a fool as the left would portray them to be. Polls show that belief in AGW is down to 57% from 81% two years ago, which is why the left is saying we need shock treatments. They better get their eyed on where they are heading as that iceberg is directly ahead.

The Tip of the Climategate Iceberg

A skeptical public repeatedly has been told that questions about purported global warming are closed. “I think everybody is clear on the science. I think scientists are clear on the science … I think that this notion that there’s some debate … on the science is kind of silly,” said President Obama’s Press Secretary Robert Gibbs when asked Monday about the president’s response to the controversy. The flack was talking smack.

Contrary to the whitewash job conducted by propagandists, there are 450 academic peer-reviewed journal articles questioning the importance of man-made global warming. The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine has collected more than 30,000 American scientists urging the U.S. government to reject the Kyoto Treaty, which pushes draconian measures to reduce carbon emissions. Much hay is made of 2,500 United Nations scientists who back Kyoto, but there are many more scientists with Ph.D.s among the 30,000 skeptics than there are among the oft-cited 2,500, most of whom are government bureaucrats without advanced degrees.

Climategate Revelations are but the Tip of a Giant Iceberg, says Atmospheric Scientist

(Dr. Bill Gray) Had I not devoted my entire career of over half-a-century to the study and forecasting of meteorological and climate events I would have likely been concerned over the possibility of humans causing serious global climate degradation.

There has been an unrelenting quarter century of one-sided indoctrination of the western world by the media and by various scientists and governments concerning a coming carbon dioxide (CO_2 ) induced global warming disaster. These warming scenarios have been orchestrated by a combination of environmentalists, vested interest scientists wanting larger federal grants and publicity, the media which profits from doomsday scenario reporting, governmental bureaucrats who want more power over our lives, and socialists who want to level-out global living standards. These many alarmist groups appear to have little concern over whether their global warming prognostications are accurate, however. And they most certainly are not. The alarmists believe they will be able to scare enough of our citizens into believing their propaganda that the public will be willing to follow their advice on future energy usage and agree to a lowering of their standard of living in the name of climate

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The disastrous economic consequences of restricting CO_2 emissions from the present by as much as 20 percent by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050 (as being proposed in Copenhagen) have yet to be digested by the general public. Such CO_2 output decreases would cause very large increases in our energy costs, a lowering of our standard of living, and do nothing of significance to improve our climate.

The Cap-and-Trade bill presently before Congress, the likely climate agreements coming out of the Copenhagen Conference, and the EPA’s just announced decision to treat CO_2 as a pollutant represents a grave threat to the industrial world’s continued economic development. We should not allow these proposals to restrict our economic growth. Any United Nations climate bill our country might sign would act as an infringement on our country’s sovereignty.

The Climate-Change Travesty

The Financial Times response to the CRU materials is: The scientific case for alarm about global warming “is growing more rather than less compelling.” If so, then could anything make the case less compelling? A CRU e-mail says: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment” — this “moment” is in its second decade — “and it is a travesty that we can’t.”

The travesty is the intellectual arrogance of the authors of climate-change models partially based on the problematic practice of reconstructing long-term prior climate changes. On such models we are supposed to wager trillions of dollars — and substantially diminished freedom.

Some climate scientists compound their delusions of intellectual adequacy with messiah complexes. They seem to suppose themselves a small clerisy entrusted with the most urgent truth ever discovered. On it, and hence on them, the planet’s fate depends. So some of them consider it virtuous to embroider facts, exaggerate certitudes, suppress inconvenient data, and manipulate the peer-review process to suppress scholarly dissent and, above all, to declare that the debate is over.

The Huffington Post is of course, hyperventilating:

ClimateGate: The 6 Most Dubious Claims About The Supposed “Global Warming Hoax”

A few weeks ago, hackers broke into the emails of one of the Climate Research Unit of The University of East Anglia, and climate skeptics have been having a field day making mountains out of molehills about what the emails contain. The verdict on global warming is in — it’s caused by humans and it is happening and nothing in the emails challenges that. However, with the internet abuzz about what has been labeled “ClimateGate,” we thought we should set the record straight about the rumors, lies and insinuations about what the emails actually contain — and what they “prove” about climate change. “ClimateGate” itself is a misnomer. Perhaps the nickname should be “SwiftHack” for the way people with political agendas have “swiftboated” the global warming reality. As world attention turns to the climate conference in Copenhagen this December, this email hack acts as a distraction from the huge task at hand of getting world leaders to commit to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. As professor Richard Somerville says, “We’re facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public.”

You gotta love it! Hysteric after Hysteric after Hysteric plugging the holes in the dike. Hysterics in their posh accommodations aboard the Hystanic, wining and dining, serenaded by Al, greased out with government largesse, demanding more for their future orders of beluga caviar. Retiring to the smoking room to sit back and and discuss with comic disdain the great unwashed and their plans for their servitude.

HARD ASTARBOARD!

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Excellent post Steve, excellent indeed, perhaps we can expect to see more?

450 peer-reviewed papers? I have 500 plus another few hundred articles.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

All those little white blobs you see are snow-covered chickens coming home to roost. It’s also fun to read through the comments in the HuffPo piece, because so many are calling BUNK to their position. 🙂

This just in … CONSENSUS! Larry Summers: Recession Is Over Because Everyone Agrees. No argument. The economics is settled!

Repeat:

There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.

from http://www.crichton-official.com/speech-alienscauseglobalwarming.html .

Patvann:

I can wager you that thousands and thousands of scientists failed, or declined, to board before the ship sailed. Give it a little time, next week it may be 550…

AGW Hysterics have had practically all scientists who wanted a piece of the new ‘green action’ imprisoned behind bars with their mouths shut. Climategate opened the cell door and those scientists immeditely scattered off in all directions like a passel of ol’ Texas hound dogs dropped in the middle of a pack of jack rabbits. Let’s just give it some time.

Skookum:

Thank you kindly sir, have been spreading myself too thin like an idiot.

Neo: Although a different subject, Obamaworld cannot even define consensus:

http://www.breitbart.tv/top-economic-adviser-of-course-recession-isnt-over/

Lawrence Summers, director of the National Economic Council tells the world that the recession is over: “Today, everybody agrees that the recession is over, and the question is what the pace of the expansion is going to be.”

Then comes Christian Romer, White House economic adviser, telling us: “Of course not. For the people on Main Street and throughout this country, they are still suffering, the unemployment rate is still 10 percent.”………… it ain’t over.

With Obama down to around 44%, wonder if he has the nerve to bomb a few baby formula factories a la Bill Clinton?

RatDog:

That was a great speech back in 2003 by Michael Crichton. The Hysterics who got wind of if laughed him off the map and the MSM burped. Looks like he’s going to have the last laugh!

@Steve

Ya mean like these guys? 😉

http://www.petitionproject.org/

When does the HuffPo NOT hyperventilate?! Seriously, in the 70s we were told the earth was freezing and that a new Ice Age was imminent. They don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. They cannot even predict a freaking SNOWSTORM!

OT but something you might appreciate:
http://www.redpills.org/?p=8296

Very conveniently, Al Gore comes up with a computer model saying the Arctic ice cap will be completely melted away in 5-7 years:

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20091214/D9CJACE01.html

I wonder if the Al Gore venture will be life jackets?

Gayle: Just keep chanting: “Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow the green back road.”
It has never been about ‘predicting’ anything, its been about ‘pulling a fast one’.

janeplain: interesting web site, i need to go there a little at length.

Patvan: Ditto above…..follow, follow , follow, follow………..

DR: These climate models are as worthless as a pill guaranteeing male ‘enhancement’…………(and NO I did not try them, pills I mean, thank you very much…:-)…)

@DR

My data shows record ice formation has already started, and will continue to build for the next twenty years, and that the oceans have been dramatically cooling the past 2 years.

I wish I could bet Gore my net worth.

He cites frustration with journalism and also personal fatigue

Science writer Andrew C. Revkin, the individual journalist most identified with reporting on climate change, is leaving The New York Times.

Neo:

Wonder what it would take to get some of these petrified carcasses on the Supreme Court to pack it up?
Thanks.

@Steve

Rope.
Tree.
Some assembly required.

But in all reality, we need them to stay healthy for 3 more years. What we need in the meantime is for someone to grow some gonads and bring some cases to them. Right now the S/C has a conservative-bent, but they can’t make pronouncements.

I would love to see some court action regarding Acorn start it’s way up to them.