McCain On Obama – “For A Guy Who Has Already Authored Two Memoirs He Is Not Exactly An Open Book”


Money quote at 2:45. Even better stuff at 2:23 in which he says he would not seek advice on telling the truth from a Chicago politician.

There is plenty more in that speech but not caught by MSNBC. Like this for example: (much more of the speech on this youtube video and the full speech here at liveleak)

Our current economic crisis is a good case in point. What was his actual record in the years before the great economic crisis of our lifetimes?

This crisis started in our housing market in the form of subprime loans that were pushed on people who could not afford them. Bad mortgages were being backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and it was only a matter of time before a contagion of unsustainable debt began to spread. This corruption was encouraged by Democrats in Congress, and abetted by Senator Obama.

Senator Obama has accused me of opposing regulation to avert this crisis. I guess he believes if a lie is big enough and repeated often enough it will be believed. But the truth is I was the one who called at the time for tighter restrictions on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that could have helped prevent this crisis from happening in the first place.

Senator Obama was silent on the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and his Democratic allies in Congress opposed every effort to rein them in. As recently as September of last year he said that subprime loans had been, quote, “a good idea.” Well, Senator Obama, that “good idea” has now plunged this country into the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

To hear him talk now, you’d think he’d always opposed the dangerous practices at these institutions. But there is absolutely nothing in his record to suggest he did. He was surely familiar with the people who were creating this problem. The executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have advised him, and he has taken their money for his campaign. He has received more money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than any other senator in history, with the exception of the chairman of the committee overseeing them. Did he ever talk to the executives at Fannie and Freddie about these reckless loans? Did he ever discuss with them the stronger oversight I proposed? If Senator Obama is such a champion of financial regulation, why didn’t he support these regulations that could have prevented this crisis in the first place? He won’t tell you, but you deserve an answer

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Thing is, did HE really author them or not, and if not who was his ghost-writer??
We all know now that JFK (with whom Obama likes to compare himself) didn’t write “Profiles in Courage” – he was a lousy writer – Jackie did.
What if Ayers wrote Obama’s books? No wonder he wants to keep his distance (and keep his royalty checks)…

McCain’s a better lookin’ dude sans gloves…. LOL

I do look forward to tomorrow’s debates. I will be watching for his wisdom in the “attack”.

Can you say Chicago Annenberg Challenge, wasted funds, socialist public education agenda, and failure of executive administration???

@DirtCrashr: i read that elsewhere, and it makes one wonder. he hasn’t done anything else, why should we believe he wrote those books? the left is in a frenzy about palin saying anything against “the one”. makes me want to vomit. they are running around sighting olbermannquotes and declaring it the trueth. the trueth is that he can’t be trusted.

“Oh look….shiny” in 3,2,1……

Jackie didn’t write PiC, it was Ted Sorensen. Papa Joe paid him $5k for the job: Sorensen admitted it a few years ago.

IF McCain wants to win this, he’d better start saying stuff like this 24/7.

There’s only three things that McCain needs to keep saying:

1) The Economy – How he’s going to fix it and who got us into this mess to begin with.

2) O’Bama’s character – Who he associates with (terrorists and crooks).

3) What he’s going to do to make things better.

If he fails to hammer this during every speech, appearance, debate, etc., he’s going to lose and lose big. He’d damned-well better get serious about this or he’s toast.

Maverick is finally getting serious or should I say his campaign is finally getting serious. This is a great speech. Tomorrow’s debate will be make or break for McCain. If he bruises Obama the way Clinton did in the primaries, Obama will be in trouble. The momentum will turn Maverick’s way going into the final debate. If he does not bruise Obama then obama will just play rope a dope in the last debate.

McCain has to hit very hard on Fannie Mae….very hard. What makes Obama so special as to receive $125,000 in donations from the firm? Why did Obama think subprime lending was a good idea at one time? Where was he when McCain was trying to reform Fannie Mae? Did Obama reach across the aisle then? McCain and Hagel were looking for anybody to reach across the aisle.

If Scheifert wants to stay clear of certain topics, McCain should pull a Palin and steer the conversation to where he wants it to go.

Now is the time for McCain:

“Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up…..we’ll never surrender.”

“Maverick is finally getting serious or should I say his campaign is finally getting serious. ”


(Politico) The one- and two-event days may be a sign that the pace of campaigns is changing, altered by the Internet and record spending that’s allowed both camps to blanket airwaves in various markets, Brazile said.

Even with the emergence of new media, one Republican aide who worked on both Bush campaigns in 2000 and 2004 said he was baffled by McCain’s decision to spend two crucial weekends without holding public events.

“Yes, modern communication has changed, but there is no more effective voter outreach than when you speak to them directly and you’re there to shake their hands,” the aide said.

The aide agreed that debate preparation was essential but nonetheless said “it’s a mistake” for McCain to take weekends off from the campaign trail.

“Every single day is essential right now,” the aide said.

Mark Salter, one of McCain’s top advisers, said the Arizona senator will be picking up the pace in the next month.

Yeah, let’s see if he can keep up with Obama. this version has fannie mae-freddie mac blame

Anchors away to use a Navy term…

Go John Go, pound that America hating, socialist, Sharia loving interloper into the fucking ground!!!


Mark Schlosser have given us the link to the full video of McCain speech that you have on this thread (18min)… it is FANTASTIC! Maybe you should embeded here:

Thanks Mark for that great video. I sure liked it when he said: “After all… I just didn’t show-out of nowhere”… (or something like this), everybody should watch the full video. McCain at it’s best. If he keeps it up till the 4th of November, Obama will become NObama.

Pete Bondurant,

Yeah, wasn’t that a great line: “Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up…..we’ll never surrender.”
I had goose pimples when I heard him say that.

AND the Left loves to have their own poetry and prose published – including even such well known Nobel Laureate-frauds as Rigoberto Menchu’s faked autobiography, and scientific ignoramus Algore. Not to mention Socialist Dictators from Tajikistan to North Korea who use the State to fund their literary efforts that everybody has to watch while sung or danced on TV and taught in school.
Education remember, Ayers is an Edu-guy.
The Publishing Left is also happy to fund advance after futile advance for Lefty writers who flounder and flail (Pelosi’s book, among others) as they seek to advance the narrative, while ignoring proven sellers among Conservatives…

Love the quote about the two books 🙂

Go get ’em, John!!! 😉

This crisis started in our housing market in the form of subprime loans that were pushed on people who could not afford them.

Why do they keep saying this? It doesn’t make sense. The crisis started because of the subprime loans all right but they were never pushed on people. These people wanted to game the system. They regarded it as another hand-out. Another democrat freebie. If you could buy a house and never pay on the loan you could still stay in the house for months and up to a year never paying the loan. When you were evicted all you had to do was go to another lender and start the same process all over again. There was no credit search, no job search and 100% loan. A deadbeat paradise. And we are paying for it. This is what the democrats have brought us.

This is all great, but (following the new American way) it’s completely unrealistic.
This country is in a big hole, and it’s not going to get out for at least the next 5-6 years.
Any candidate talking about balancing the budget in four years is going to be lying to the public.

OUPST! This comment should have been on another thread… sorry. I just re-posted it at the right place.

David, you are so wrong. People do not want a crook and a friend of terrorists to handle their money, do they? So they have to know who is the REAL Obama and when they will know, they will kick Obama out. That’s the game, my friend.

Go see this video that came out today, McCain tells you what he will do for economy.

Just a word of thanks to all you guys. Since I am in the 4th and final stage of congestive heart failure, the election won’t matter to me, but it will for my kids and grand kids.


God Bless You.

Marion Valentine, our thoughts are with you.

Marion, I’m sorry to hear that.

This is what we need. Obama needs to get out and answer these questions. His problem is, that the only true answers won’t get him elected. Maybe he should just cover it all up with a good speech. Have Biden go out and find one. I hear he’s good at getting them.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there is anything major that McCain hasn’t answered to. There isn’t anything that McCain is trying to downplay from his past. At least, nothing that I can think of. If the best Obama can come up with is “he doesn’t know how many houses he owns” or “he admits to not being able to use the computer”, then I don’t think McCain’s got anything to hide like Obama does.

Did any of you catch this speech on CNN? It was on in the background while I was at lunch. I didn’t pay close attention to it, but did notice that during the speech they were urging people to text in their thoughts, and were scrolling the text messages across the bottom of the screen. Quite a clever way to air partisan rants DURING a speech while still able to disclaim responsibility for the content.

But at one point, they cut in to read an email that “just came in”. And put a shot of the text on the computer screen while they read it. The thing is, I swear they actually interrupted the speech to do this. Was I not paying enough attention, or did they really do that? Tell me someone else saw it. And if they did, what part of the speech did they cut away from?


John Mcain’s Economic Adviser says, john Mcains plans to CUT Medicare and Medicade to pay for his health care plan.



The Obama Campaign is planing on taking this issue to florida and let seniors know that John Mcain is planing on CUTTING their source of income.

Obama’s camp. is also making ads about this across the battle ground states including Florida.

Just wait….Come Nov.4th states like flordia WILL BE BLUE!

But seriously why would John Mcain do this?

Why is he trying to cut Seniors medicare and medicade which is their source of income?

Doesn’t that say something about his character?

This Bill Ayers crap MEANS NOTHING!!!!!!

Once these seniors find out john Mcains plans to cut the MAIN source of thier income.

Like Medicare and Mediacade.

AND that he voted SEVERAL TIMES for George W. Bushes plan to privitize Social Security.

Basicly leting Seniors Social Security be gambled in THE STOCK MARKET!

They will FLOCK to Obama!

Its funny how he wants to cut medicare and medicade but, yet wants to give TAX CUTS to Big Oil Compainies and the very rich and weathy.

Oh yeah…..that’s a good idea to get the economy back on the right track!

In other words…..MCAIN IS DONE!

Obama/Biden 08-16!

The preceding announcement was sponsored by the U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America).Paid for by George Soros.


I wish you all the very best and will remember you in my prayers.

Aye –

Air Force Times:

The nation’s most prestigious group for Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans released a congressional scorecard Tuesday that ranks Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain of Arizona as having one of the worst voting records to support troops and veterans.

The grade is due to his absence on several key votes on military and veterans’ issues over the last two years.

McCain, ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee and a decorated Navy fighter pilot who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, received a D on the report card from Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. D is the lowest grade given by the nonprofit, nonpartisan group, and McCain is one of just four senators and five members of the House of Representatives who received such a low grade. McCain also is the only veteran among the nine who received a D on the record card.

For senators, the score was based on 10 votes involving increased veterans funding, expansions of benefits, a vote to purchase Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles and four separate votes at various stages of consideration of the Post-9/11 GI Bill of Rights and co-sponsorship of the bill.

McCain’s Democratic challenger, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, received a B on the report card, the same grade received by Obama’s vice presidential running mate, Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del. Obama and Biden also missed key votes. Obama missed four of the key votes and Biden missed three.

Making McCain’s low grade stand out even more, 51 senators received an A on the report card.

Just making McCain’s life an ‘open book’.

If those are the facts then so be it.

However, at one time, I checked out the ownership and editorship of the various military Times publications and found them to be solidly Democrat. In fact, at that time, the editor in chief had at least one commendation for his work in Vietnam, which was anti-military, anti-US.

So, heads up. Check it out. Maybe all has changed.

Wow… I just caught up with this thread, and I’m very saddened to hear your news, Marion.

You shall not only be missed here on FA, and on this earth. But you have made it brighter and more beautiful for your presence.

With my prayers and wishes that every day brings you joy.


McCain, “due to his absence on several key votes”, got a D.
Obama “missed four of the key votes” and got a B.
Biden “missed three” and got a B.

Unless there’s more to the story that you left out, that math don’t work.

Dave, look here to see the math of the Vets. congressional scorecard:

More here from Newsweek:

The veterans group Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America released a “scorecard” today which gives letter grades to members of congress based on their voting record for veterans issues. Senator John McCain received a D, while Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. Joe Biden both received a B. According to the group’s Website, the grades were based off of how many times a member of Congress voted along the same line as the IAVA’s own position on 22 key votes affecting veterans (nine in the Senate and 13 in the House). From the IAVA:

From their flag lapel pins to their yellow ribbon bumper stickers, every politician in America wants you to believe they “support the troops.” But actions speak louder than words. When veterans’ issues actually came to a vote in Washington, what did your representatives do?…How did Congress do this year? Over all, they scored very well. From the passage of the landmark Post-9/11 GI Bill to fully funding the Department of Veterans Affairs, we have tremendous progress to celebrate this year. More than 150 legislators earned a perfect score, a grade of A+.

The report also features a list of the best and worst voting records on such issues.

Despite Sen. Obama’s decent grade on the IAVA’s report card, another veterans group recently criticized his voting record and leadership skills with respect to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Vets for Freedom aired the TV ad below: [go to link for video]

Prompted by the airing of this ad, the National Journal set out to separate fact from fiction among accusations issued by both McCain and Obama concerning their pro-troop voting records:

The accusation against Obama regarding troop funding came up in the first presidential debate, where Obama defended his vote as a reflection on his position seeking a timetable for withdrawal. “Senator McCain opposed funding for troops in legislation that had a timetable, because he didn’t believe in a timetable,” Obama pointed out. “I opposed funding a mission that had no timetable, and was open-ended, giving a blank check to George Bush . We had a difference on the timetable. We didn’t have a difference on whether or not we were going to be funding troops.”, meanwhile, reported in response to a McCain campaign ad released in July that while Obama did cast one “no” vote on legislation providing money for combat efforts, he voted at least 10 times in favor of increased funding.

As for the committee Obama chairs, it does not, in fact, have direct oversight of the war in Afghanistan. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s Subcommittee on European Affairs does have jurisdiction over NATO affairs, and NATO has played a large role in the conflict. But hearings on Afghanistan have been held in front of the full Foreign Relations Committee, headed by Obama’s running mate, Joe Biden . ABC News reported in July that Obama has attended one of the three full committee hearings on Afghanistan held within the last two years, while McCain has missed all three.

According to a recent Washington Post-ABC News poll, Iraq ranks third among issues registered voters are concerned about. The economy and jobs dominated as a top issue coming in with 52 percent. Health care came in second with nine percent, and Iraq third with six percent.

It should also be noted that the Veterans group assigned 2 points to the Post 9/11 GI Bill– due to its importance: McCain voted against it, thus losing 2 points.

Marion, thoughts and prayers for you and your family. I will remember your children and grandchildren when I vote this year.

All the military Times magazines are owned by Gannett. I don’t know if any of our past and present military members are going to comment on it, it would be interesting to hear what they think. I’ve seen postings in the past from troops that don’t care for the magazine. They like it for military news, but often disagree with the editorial content.

Interesting that McCain should get a D and still enjoy the majority of troop support:

Military Times poll: Troops backing McCain

By Brendan McGarry – Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 9:21:32 EDT

Sen. John McCain enjoys overwhelming support from the military’s professional core, though race appears to be a decisive factor for career-oriented black service members, a Military Times survey of nearly 4,300 readers indicates.

McCain, R-Ariz., handily defeated Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., 68 percent to 23 percent in a voluntary survey of 4,293 active-duty, National Guard and reserve subscribers and former subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times.

Well, that’s not really surprising, Missy; yet, the Veterans group grading McCain with a D is.

Here’s is a piece many are looking at, as it is a behind the scenes take on why the press turned on McCain:

Does the tooth fairy still visit? Easter Bunny? I hope not to many waste time on that article, wish I hadn’t.

AFT mag:
You mean the veterans that bothered to take part in that specific reader poll, just like the one I posted, they aren’t scientific, they are done to shape news for people like you. Many military members out in the field don’t have a chance to see the magazines, many military members ignore them and those that do read them, don’t all participate. You have a handful of participants that do not represent the military as a whole.

@doug1: I’m sorry, but didn’t those “key votes” regarding troop funding include lots and lots of “goodies” (ie pork)? If you have the links to the actual bills, I think you should post them. Then let us make the judgement whether those groups are right or wrong, or whether McCain is true to his word on voting no on legislation that includes pork.


Let’s look a little more closely at the organization that did this “report card” shall we?

Here’s the press release that was sent out by e-mail from the Obama Campaign:

CHICAGO, IL – Today, the non-partisan Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) issued their 2008 Congressional report card, grading both Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden a B. ( The same report card gave Senator John McCain a D, making him one of only four Senators to receive a D or below. The scorecard was based on key votes affecting Iraq and Afghanistan veterans – the GI Bill, VA benefits and mental health care – while also highlighting who failed to make veterans a priority.

The press release was sent by Phil Carter, Veterans Director, Obama for America.

Phil Carter.

Remember that name.

Here’s some more info about Phil Carter:

Phillip Carter
Phil served for nine years in the Army as a military police and civil affairs officer. After leaving active duty in 2001, Phil served in the California Army National Guard and in the Army Reserve. He served in Iraq from October 2005 to September 2006 as an adviser to the Iraqi police with the Army’s 101st Airborne Division. Phil is currently an attorney with McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP in New York City. He is a regular contributor to national publications on issues of law and national security and his blog Intel Dump recently moved to the Washington Post’s opinion section.

Where did that come from you ask?

Why, right here at the IAVA website under “Staff”.

So, not only does Mr. Carter serve as an adviser for Obama’s campaign, he also is a founding member of the “non-partisan” IAVA which has just released a “report card” critical of Senator McCain.



So let’s review:
A “non-partisan” group does a scorecard made up of votes that aren’t what they say the votes are for, then the Obama Campaign uses them to alert people they got a B and McCain got a D. Only, the guy sending the email out from the Obama campaign is a founding member of the “Non-partisan” organization that did the damn scorecard in the first place?

You must me [IAVA]ing me.

Here’s a BONUS PRIZE for you.

An analysis of the IAVA Senate “report card”:

OK, in part I, I parsed the House Scorecard votes for IAVA and Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!, the Senate Part is equally useless and flawed.

This one had 9 votes, 4 of which I am punting on for now since they deal with the GI Bill that I will cover in part III. Additionally, once again we see the two extra points (Casey Kasem: Two???) awarded for supporting the Webb GI Bill, and no other versions. That leaves us with 5, one of which was unanimous.

Of the four remaining votes
• The “Enhanced Veterans’ Benefits” vote was 96-1;
• The “Expanded Veterans’ Benefits” vote was 92-3;
• The “Funding Veterans’ Health Care, 2008” vote was 92-1; and
• The “Funding Veterans’ Health Care, 2007” vote, like the one in the House was actually a continuing resolution.

So, I took the liberty of looking up the first three, even though they were nearly unanimous, and just as with the House votes, scoring these is entirely deceptive. Taking the “Funding Veterans’ Health Care, 2008” vote first, I looked it up and found that the sole vote against it was cast by Senator DeMint. Now, I have a buddy on DeMint’s staff, so I looked it up.

Turns out DeMint just hates veterans. He wants them all turned into sausage, and feels there are sufficient heating grates outside that the veterans need to just quit complaining. Well, either that or he didn’t feel it was appropriate to have a $4 BILLION earmark that led to the creation of a park in Beverly Hills. Sayeth the Senior Senator from South Carolina (I does alliteration good):

This is an appalling earmark that takes $4 Billion dollars which should be used to care for the brave men and women who fought for our country and turns it over to build a park for Beverley Hills 90210. We should all be able to agree that a community with an average household income of $125,000 has a sufficient tax base to build a park and doesn’t need a $4 Billion hand out from the federal government. The men and women who wore America’s uniform need the money a lot more than the men and women who wear Prada.

You evil bastard!

DeMint is the lone Senate recipient of an “F” from IAVA, which to me is starting to look pretty damn good.

The sole vote against the “Expanded Veterans’ Benefits” was cast by Senator Vitter of Louisiana. And why did he vote against such a venerable bill? Well, I spoke with a member of his staff on the phone this morning, and then received this explanation:

S. 1315, the Veterans’ Benefits Enhancement Act of 2007, contained a controversial provision that provides a new, special pension to Filipino veterans from World War II who live in the Philippines, who have no service-related injuries, and who already receive a pension from the Philippine government. The bill would provide a $221 million pension benefit to World War II Filipino veterans who have no war-related injuries and who reside in the Philippines. As American troops are returning home from combat everyday, this is exactly the wrong priority at the wrong time. America should concentrate more resources on caring for our veterans. Yet S.1315 put the needs of non-injured Filipino veterans above the needs of disabled U.S. veterans. It creates a generous government benefit for Filipinos that far exceeds the pension that U.S. veterans get when adjusted for cost of living. This bill would literally take pension money from U.S. veterans to create a pension program overseas. It set’s a horrible precedent that other countries will follow. Who’s next? Iraq soldiers asking for US pension money for freeing their country? Afghanistan fighters? The bottom line is we paid in blood and lives for Philippine freedom. The monies should have been re-directed towards US soldiers and not Philippine’s who were given their freedom with American blood.

Somehow, he still managed to pull out a “B”.

Again, inexplicably IAVA decided to score the vote on the FY 2008 Defense Authorization from December of 2007, a bill that was subsequently vetoed. I am still at a complete loss on why they scored a vote for a bill that was vetoed, instead of the nearly identical bill which became law. I thought perhaps looking at who didn’t vote would be instructive, but it was less so than I anticipated. The one they scored had five Senators not voting, Obama, McCain, Clinton, Biden and Dodd. The identical bill (minus the offending provisions regarding law suits against the Iraq Gov’t) signed into law had 6 non-voting Senators: Obama, McCain, Clinton, Menendez, Thune and Warner. Maybe they have a soft spot for Warner or something? Like I said, it’s inexplicable.

So, doing away with those 3 bills, and excluding the GI Bill votes, we have 1 vote which had any significant impact on the overall votes, the vote on “Funding Veterans’ Health Care, 2007” vote, which as I stated on the House side, was actually a continuing resolution. Senator Coburn of Oklahoma was one of those 15 who voted in opposition, and he did so NOT because of funding for veterans’ health care, but rather because:

One example of the new majority’s dishonesty and irresponsibility is their manipulation of $3.1 billion for defense priorities. By cutting $3.1 billion in defense priorities and using those funds for new spending in this bill – while promising to restore the $3.1 billion for defense at a later date – the new majority is playing an Enron-style shell game with taxpayers. The $3.1 billion that will be restored will go directly to the national debt, which will be paid back by our children and grandchildren. The ongoing problem in Washington is not the Republicans or Democrats but the triumph of short-term political gamesmanship ahead of long-term vision and sacrifice. Both parties continue to live in a fiscal fantasyland in which hard choices can be postponed indefinitely.

Dr. Coburn, not surprisingly perhaps, received a D. And his parents took away his cell phone and he isn’t allowed to date for the next 2 months.

So there you have the Senate scorecard. Once again, long on hyperbole, short on facts.

But, when I start up “Veterans Against Beverly Hills Parks, Robbing US Troops to Pay Filipino Veterans Already Receiving a Pension and Saddling Our Children With Debt” than that fine organization will be properly giving Sens DeMint, Vitter and Coburn an “A”.

But for now, the media gets to label them as opposed to veterans based on votes provided by IAVA that have exactly nothing to do with what IAVA claims they were voting on.

Isn’t politics grand?

I know I promised more on Obama and McCain, I am now going to fold that into another post later on. Also, as has been noted in the other posts comments, looks like the media swallowed the bait on the IAVA scorecard. Also they’ve apparently swallowed the line, the fishing reel and the boat.

doug1, doug1, where are you?

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