Scalia Fumes on Gitmo Case: Today’s Opinion “Will Almost Certainly Cause More Americans To Be Killed.” [Reader Post]

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From the New York Times.

Foreign terrorism suspects held at the Guantánamo Bay naval base in Cuba have constitutional rights to challenge their detention there in United States courts, the Supreme Court ruled, 5 to 4, on Thursday in a historic decision on the balance between personal liberties and national security.

“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the court.

The ruling came in the latest battle between the executive branch, Congress and the courts over how to cope with dangers to the country in the post-9/11 world. Although there have been enough rulings addressing that issue to confuse all but the most diligent scholars, this latest decision, in Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195, may be studied for years to come.

The justices rejected the administration’s argument that the individual protections provided by the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 and the Military Commissions Act of 2006 were more than adequate.

“The costs of delay can no longer be borne by those who are held in custody,” Justice Kennedy wrote, assuming the pivotal rule that some court-watchers had foreseen.

Joining Justice Kennedy’s opinion were Justices John Paul Stevens, Stephen G. Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David H. Souter.

The dissenters were Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Samuel A. Alito Jr., Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, generally considered the conservative wing on the court.

Chief Justice Roberts, in the lead dissent, notes the extensive and unprecedented rights that were already afforded to enemy combatants, none of whom is an American citizen. [All citations removed, emphasis mine].

The majority rests its decision on abstract and hypothetical concerns. Step back and consider what, in the real world, Congress and the Executive have actually granted aliens captured by our Armed Forces overseas and found to be enemy combatants:

• The right to hear the bases of the charges against them, including a summary of any classified
evidence.

• The ability to challenge the bases of their detention before military tribunals modeled after Geneva
Convention procedures. Some 38 detainees have been released as a result of this process.

• The right, before the CSRT, to testify, introduce evidence, call witnesses, question those the Government calls, and secure release, if and when appropriate.

• The right to the aid of a personal representative in arranging and presenting their cases before a
CSRT.

• Before the D. C. Circuit, the right to employ counsel, challenge the factual record, contest the lower tribunal’s legal determinations, ensure compliance with the Constitution and laws, and secure release, if any errors below establish their entitlement to such relief.

In sum, the DTA satisfies the majority’s own criteria for assessing adequacy. This statutory scheme provides the combatants held at Guantanamo greater procedural protections than have ever been afforded alleged enemy detainees—whether citizens or aliens—in our national history.

He then goes on to provide a great example of the practical results of the decision.

So who has won?

Not the detainees. The Court’s analysis leaves them with only the prospect of further litigation to determine the content of their new habeas right, followed by further litigation to resolve their particular cases, followed by further litigation before the D. C. Circuit—where they could have started had they invoked the DTA procedure.

Not Congress, whose attempt to “determine— through democratic means—how best” to balance the security of the American people with the detainees’ liberty interests has been unceremoniously brushed aside.

Not the Great Writ, whose majesty is hardly enhanced by its extension to a jurisdictionallyquirky outpost, with no tangible benefit to anyone.

Not the rule of law, unless by that is meant the rule of lawyers,who will now arguably have a greater role than military and intelligence officials in shaping policy for alien enemy combatants.

And certainly not the American people, who today lose a bit more control over the conduct of this Nation’s foreign policy to unelected, politically unaccountable judges.

Scalia, agreeing with Roberts, reminds us what we are up against.

I think it appropriate to begin with a description of the disastrous consequences of what the Court has done today.

America is at war with radical Islamists. The enemy began by killing Americans and American allies abroad: 241 at the Marine barracks in Lebanon, 19 at the Khobar Towers in Dhahran, 224 at our embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi, and 17 on the USS Cole in Yemen.

On September 11, 2001, the enemy brought the battle to American soil, killing 2,749 at the Twin Towers in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon in Washington, D. C., and 40 in Pennsylvania.

It has threatened further attacks against our homeland; one need only walk about buttressed and barricaded Washington, or board a plane anywhere in the country, to know that the threat is a serious one. Our Armed Forces are now in the field against the enemy, in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last week, 13 of our countrymen in arms were killed.

The game of bait-and-switch that today’s opinion plays upon the Nation’s Commander in Chief will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed.

Here is what happens when Guantanamo alumni are set free. They do a little resume building.

At least 30 of those prisoners hitherto released from Guantanamo Bay have returned to the battlefield. Some have been captured or killed. But others have succeeded in carrying on their atrocities against innocent civilians. In one case, a detainee released from Guantanamo Bay masterminded the kidnapping of two Chinese dam workers, one of whom was later shot to death when used as a human shield against Pakistani commandoes. Another former detainee promptly resumed his post as a senior Taliban commander and murdered a United Nations engineer and three Afghan soldiers. Still another murdered an Afghan judge. It was reported only last month that a released detainee carried out a suicide bombing against Iraqi soldiers in Mosul, Iraq.

And with this ruling, the liberals finally may get their wish to try al Qaeda as a criminal enterprise in American courthouses.

Astoundingly, the Court today raises the bar, requiring military officials to appear before civilian courts and defend their decisions under procedural and evidentiary rules that go beyond what Congress has specified. As THE CHIEF JUSTICE’s dissent makes clear, we have no idea what those procedural and evidentiary rules are, but they will be determined by civil courts and (in the Court’s contemplation at least) will be more detainee-friendly than those now applied, since otherwise there would no reason to hold the congressionally prescribed procedures unconstitutional.

The decision was 5-4. So if you want more decisions like this in which al Qaeda receives American Constitutional Rights, vote for Barack Obama. And when crafty American lawyers get their terrorist clients off on a technicality, and the al Qaeda soldier walks out of the federal courthouse in Philadelphia, Chicago, or San Diego and, because he got the all expense paid trip to his enemy’s homeland, he decides, while he is here, to blow up the shopping mall in your town, you can look in the mirror and thank yourself.

Also find Bill Dupray at The Patriot Room.

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“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” I THINK WHAT KENNEDY MEANS is that our Constitution needs to consider international pressure to be acceptable to the world. THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! I think our leaders have a personality disorder, insecurity. Oh dear they don’t like us, booo hoooooo. Sounds like a teenager whining, I don’t have any friends. Why not just stand up and say this is who we are, take a hike if you don’t like it. Is there never a line in the sand for these people.

I heard one of them talking the other day about a decent respect for the opinions of mankind.

“The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” I THINK WHAT KENNEDY MEANS is that our Constitution needs to consider international pressure to be acceptable to the world. THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! I think our leaders have a personality disorder, insecurity. Oh dear they don’t like us, booo hoooooo. Sounds like a teenager whining, I don’t have any friends. Why not just stand up and say this is who we are, take a hike if you don’t like it. Is there never a line in the sand for these people.

Please seek professional help now. You think you know what Kennedy means? You think? Sir, you do not think. The Constitution is what it is – the law of the land. Your king Bush decided he was the law of the land; and the SCOTUS shot him (and you) down. We live in a democracy where you cannot change the law because you are scared silly. Please be brave – your children are watching you. They don’t want a pussy for a parent. Find your courage.

Fred your name calling doesn’t dignify an answer. Grow up!

Fred’s Mommy apparently didn’t teach him how to treat a lady.

This sad decision by the court overturns it’s earlier decision to ask that the legislative and executive branch work out agreement on how these unlawful combatants should be held. It places the court above both of the political branches, which is the ultimate usurpation of power in violation of every principle of American democracy handed down to us by the founders.

P.S. Fred: You marked yourself as a fool with your “King Bush” remark.

This was not good, it might in the end result in US being taken from the list of nations that comitts warcrimes and torture… How could the nation and its morals survive that?
It will certainly lower the US reputation in the rest of the world if they would have to start to follow these rules!

Next thing You will probably hear leftwing extremists starting to demand that all the “black prisons” the US have warpri… in overseas (eh, I forgot… “unlawfull combatants” is the newspeach for those prisons, so we dont misstake them for, say blackwater soldiers who all is in it for their patriotism), should also be forced to obey pesky things like human rights and anti-torture laws….

The end of civilisation (or neocons, pretty much the same thing) is near!

Fred,

What’s this obsession with meds, professional help etc? Could it be complete projection on your part?

Re: “Fred’s Mommy apparently didn’t teach him how to treat a lady.”

Ay…

Considering how freely you toss around personal insults, isn’t this a case of the pot calling…..

But then, when you toss out insults, it’s DIFFERENT, isn’t it?

The Constitution is what it is – the law of the land. Your king Bush decided he was the law of the land; and the SCOTUS shot him (and you) down.

You are under the mis’impression that this was a 9-0 call, Fred. It was 5-4, and serious dissention in judicial interpretations. So that “law” ain’t so clear cut as you think.

BTW, laws are changed in this country all the time for various reasons. Now, with this decision, we’ll have to see if both the DTA and MCA are even in effect as Constitutional. The Supremes have taken a clear procedural path, as laid out by Congress in both those acts, and turned the due process to pure mud.

“P.S. Fred: You marked yourself as a fool with your “King Bush” remark.”

Really, Mike? And what does that make everyone on this site who refers to Senator Hussein, Obamessiah, Obambi, Obamarama, and Obamalamadingdong (I made the last one up)? I think Steve has the double standard call right.

BTW, when the SCOTUS finds an executive order or a Congressional law unconstitutional it is not usurping power, it is exercising its responsibility (and concommitant power) to check overreaching on the part of the Executive and Legislative branches. Without that check, we would potentially be at the mercy of mob rule by the Congress or despotism by the President.
You may disagree with the Court’s decision, but the system is operating as so brilliantly planned by the Founding Fathers. Also I note that three of the five justices in the majority were appointed by Republican presidents. Guess you need a more foolproof litmus test.

It was 5-4, and serious dissention in judicial interpretations.

Now it is more important to elect McCain. All we need is two additional seats on SCOTUS and this sham of ruling can be overturned.

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Should McCain get into office, he will turn his back on conservatives faster than you could ever imagine. If you’re hoping he’s going to turn all of this around, particularly with the way he feels about POW’s, torture, illegal immigrants, etc., you’re going to be sadly mistaken.

This country is so far beyond any political solution to its problems right now it’s frightful.

The Supreme Court’s decision on habeas corpus was a sad day in American history. We did not give the nazis this right nor should we allow radical islamist who want us dead this right either. There is no grey matter in this issue. Period.