Conegate!
My God, this is HUGE! Lane closures! Oh the horror!
You’d think the world was ending. The Daily News has Christie’s career ended:
Utterly desperate liberals are scraping the asphalt for some meager shred of dung they can cast at Christie to assuage their egos in the midst of the Obamacare and Gates disasters.
Shame on corrupt Christie !
says one liberal.
All those responsible for these “reprisal’ road closures should be charged with murder!
says another.
You have to laugh. Belly laugh. I simply cannot take this or them seriously.
After the Obamacare lies, after Fast and Furious, after Benghazi, after killing three Americans without due process, after it all (and none of it bothers liberals) we’re supposed to be exercised about traffic cones? Obama sends 1500 US soldiers to die for something he didn’t believe in, Hillary plays politics with national security and all they’ve got are traffic cones.
Well, Christie should take this as seriously as Obama takes capturing those responsible for the deaths of the four Americans in Benghazi or the death of Brian Terry or Jaime Zapata or the deaths of 1500 US soldiers in Afghanistan.
That is say, not at all. That is not to say that he should not respond. So I have some suggestions for Christie for his presser:
“If you like your cones, you can keep your cones. No one will take them away from you no matter what. Period.”
“I just found out about this by reading the papers.”
“We will get to the bottom of this”
“I will have those lanes opened within the first year of my Presidency.”
“We’re going to open those traffic lanes. We’re going to lead by example—not just by word but by deed. That’s our vision for the future.”
“What difference at this point does it make?”
And most believable of all:
“The traffic jams were caused by a video.”
And he should take a hint from Obama and leave ’em with something like this:
That ought to do it. After all, it works for Obama.
UPDATE
Christie has fired a top staffer and has accepted responsibility.
Obama can’t even spell responsibility.
This will only strengthen Christie as a leader and diminish Obama further.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@Redteam: I’m sorry RT, but your whole presentation, with really boring and repetitive name calling, screams ” backwoods education.”
I expect O5 will be schooling you soon on The Constitution and the “natural born citizen” clause..
Simple question Was the Case Church Amendment passed with overwhelming bi-partisan support?
Constant use of “Dimocrats” childish.
To the gym—later.
@Richard Wheeler:
And I expect you will continue to drag people into your debates.
It’s what people with your lack of honor do.
Richard Wheeler
that’s why you follow the wrong party,
you where too long without knowing what was the best side to protect y”all,
while you where batteling the enemy, times went by and brought today ,
because nobody was guarding this AMERICA , from those marxist socialists who”s aim
is for taking over this AMERICA you al where fighting and dying for her freedom,
and in a short time it happened, the gang of socialists and marxist took over, COMING FROM BEHIND LIKE RATS AS SOON AS THEY CONVINCE THE DEMOCRATS TO JOIN THEM,
now we are here and you have no idea who you vote for LIKE THE OTHER LIKE YOU WITH THEIR HEAD LOOKING BEHIND, THINKING THAT FREEDOM IS STILL HERE,
there is still time for you and other MARINES to figure if you stick with the people or stick with the traitors OF AMERICA,
THEIR ONLY INTENT IS TO TAKE POWER OVER THE PEOPLE AND KEEP GETTING RICH WITH THEIR SKEEM OF OBAMACARE ALREADY SPENT CLOSE TO ONE BILLION OR CLOSE TO IT, AND NOW THEY SAY THEY LET GO THE COMPANY WHO THEY HIRED WITH THEIR FIRST 400 MILLIONS, AND ADD ANOTHER 400 MILLIONS TO FIX IT,
NOW WITH ANOTHER DEMAND OF 900 MILLION TO HIRE THE SECOND COMPANY, MAKING A TOTAL IN A BILLION,
DO YOU BELIEVE THATS WHERE THE MONEY ALL GO,
AND YOU KNOW THAT FIRST COMPANY IS FRIEND OF MICHELLE, AND THEY ARE NOT REALLY CANADIAN, JUST THE OFFICE IS, BUT THEY HAVE RAMIFICATIONS FROM ALL FOREIGN COUNTRIES INCLUDING CHINA,, IS THAT WHY OBAMA NEGLECT TO HAVE A SECURITY FOR THE CITIZENS, THAT IS WORTH
MANY BILLIONS TO HACKERS, FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD,
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOMAN WHO LIKE MANY HUNDREADS
OF THOUSANDS PEOPLE , BOUGHT, WAS HACK AS THE OTHER ALL OF THE HUNDREADS OF THOUSANDS
THEIR CHRISTMAS GIFTS, AND SHE GOT A BILL COMMING FROM RUSSIA OF 800 DOLLARS, IT HAS SPREAD ALL AROUND THE WORLD OF HACKERS WHO SELL FOR A BIG PRICE THAT MANY IDENTIFICATIONS, NAME ADDRESS BANK ACCOUNT EACH IS A PRICE TO SELL,
AT TARGET STORE, who reveal it afterward,
OBAMACARE IS ANOTHER EASY TARGET FOR THE HACKERS,
ANY ONE COULD BE IN THAT GAME,
@Richard Wheeler:
what name calling?
Not likely, I know what it means, case closed.
Mostly anti-LBJ policy that passed it.
You don’t think Dimocrats deserve the label ‘Dim” I’ve seen few bright bulbs amongst the crowd.
View it as a ‘trademark’ kinda like ummmm Semper fi, or something.
@Richard Wheeler:
So you’re not good at interpreting screams either.
RW, just to clarify things. I see the VietNam war as a total fiasco brought upon the USA by the Dimocrat Party of the USA. It seemingly was handled very well until the election of JFK and the anti USA agenda of the Dimocrats was put into action. The Super Rich Dims, seeing a great opportunity to get much richer, immediately began to push for greater involvement. JFK was duped and increased troop strength quite rapidly. But, once it became clear to him what was happening, he began to resist more involvement and announced that he would be reducing troop strength in Viet Nam. He died. Hey, Hey LBJ came in and started reversing policy and increasing troops again. When it appeared he didn’t really have the support to get heavily involved, voila! the Gulf of Tonkin happened. Katie bar the door. George Brown and associates suddenly had the door to vast treasures opened to them. The Dims did such a piss poor job, the whole American public got sick of them and voted their guy out. Nixon came in and was determined to win. Once it appeared he was going to succeed where the Dims had failed, the Dims in congress voted to stop funding the war and surrendered to the North Vietnamese. The total failure in Vietnam can be blamed 100% on the Dimocrats and the running of the war. Just as this fiasco in Iraq and Afghan can be put 100% on the Dims also. Too bad we don’t apparently have any liberals in this country that give a damn about this country. You, being in the country(vietnam) at the time when part of this was going on, under the Dimocrats must have gotten damn sick of the politicians. But for some reason, your memory has slipped and you’ve apparently forgotten who was involved.
Ronald J. Ward
ON YOUR 84 YOU SAY, YOU STAND CORRECT, NO FAR FROM IT, YOU STAND LIKE A IDIOT,
i THINK YOU STAND LIKE A SOB PUNK,
TO INSULT THOSE GREAT CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE BETTER
THAN ANY OF THE DEMOCRATS, YOU COVER,
YOU DARE TO INSULT THOSE WHO KNOW BEST HOW TO RUN THIS COUNTRY IN PERIL,
SHAME ON YOU YOU HAVE BEEN THE IDIOT SUCKED IN BY THE LIBTARDS TO GET YOU TO INSULT
THIS PARTY OF GOOD PEOPLE FAR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU AND YOUR CROWD,
GO AND LICK YOUR WOUNDS, AND WASH YOUR SPIT ON THE FLOOR BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WE DON’T WANT TO BE INFECTED BY YOUR FILTHY PROFILE,
NO MORE RESPECT FOR YOU,
@Redteam:
What? You don’t appreciate the intellect of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, or Sheila Jackson Lee, or Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John Conyers or Hank Johnson who worried Guam would tip over it too many people were on the island?
I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked.
@retire05: you certainly have to question the judgment of a party that would select a jackass as their symbol. Compare that to the wise old elephant.
Unfortunately for them, I think you’ve listed some of their brightest. As I said, I just use it as a ‘trademark’, they are free to interpret as they please.
@Redteam: George Brown? The General Appointed Chief of Staff of the Air Force by Nixon-that one?
@Richard Wheeler:
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under both Ford and Carter. Also, an outspoken voice against arming Israel in his later years.
That is, unless you are referring to another George Brown.
@retire05: I questioned RT Re his ref. to George Brown in his #106. Since you continually “drop in.” Do you agree with RT that Cruz is ineligible to be POTUS?
@Richard Wheeler:
Why do you care? Are you trying to instigate a flame war between Redteam and me? Because your intentions are nothing if not nefarious.
Here’s a question for you, RW: do you agree that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., President of the United States, has violated the U.S. Constitution in his refusal to carry out a law that he not only lobbied for, but signed? Do you agree that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., President of the United States, does not have the authority to ignore parts of the ACA, or, at will, bend its mandates for political expediency? Do you agree that these infractions are impeachable offenses?
And one other question; do you hold Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., President of the United States, personally responsible for the deaths of American military who have died in Afghanistan due to his ROEs and his lack of faith, and determination, in their mission?
@Richard Wheeler:
No, not that one. And I thought you were an expert on the VietNam war.
@retire05: “intentions nefarious” You’re a hoot O5.
@Redteam: The Gen. Brown Appt by Nixon was involved in V.N. war.
Who are you referring to? Some dentist in La?
@Richard Wheeler:
And you’re dodging my questions (no surprise).
@Richard Wheeler: RW, do you realize you put words into a quote that were not a quote? That is falsely accusing someone of saying something they did not say. If you are going to quote someone, you’re supposed to put the words they actually said within the quotation marks. Oh, but had you actually attended a school that taught you anything……
@retire05: Pot Kettle o5–More like a Black Hole.
@Richard Wheeler:
I don’t think dentistry was amongst his skills. why not try google. under the category, History of Brown and Root.
retire05
yes you hit on the nails,
BYE
@Redteam: Why do you waste so much time RT? Have you nothing better to do? I’m gonna get out and enjoy this beautiful California day—maybe watch some playoff F.B.
Enjoy You too o5
@Richard Wheeler:
RW refers to RJW. Small minds locked in step with one another, descended down into the Black Hole of spin.
Gotta love it. Neither one wants to answer tough questions.
As to my agreeing/disagreeing with RT on Cruz’s eligibility, I will bow to the opinions of Constitutional scholars such as William Jacobson and Alan Durshowitz.
@retire05:
I know we’ve discussed that before. Hamilton(I think) was very concerned about the foreign influence that might take control of the US military so he wanted to make sure the person that took charge had no split allegiance. The only way to be sure was to make sure the person was solely American, i.e., had two citizen parents and therefore had no ‘split loyalty’ as BHO does, for example. The way to do that was to require the person be a ‘natural born citizen’. I think other interpretations have now been lent to that, but that doesn’t mean they’re correct within his understanding of the meaning of the phrase at the time he gave it. Note that he did not say ‘native born’ or ‘naturalized’. I don’t mind discussing the issue, but I, and likely you, am not going to change my mind on what I think the original intent was. Here is a brief quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause
In the case of Cruz, he can’t even claim it through being born here.
@retire05:
and won’t. Both of them attempt to change the subject when they realize they’ve been nailed.
@retire05:
05, I just realized you left out that great Constitutional scholar, Barack Obama. (Actually I’m pretty sure any degrees he has is in a different name.)
@Redteam:
I have read Hamilton many times, but the Constitution itself is ambiguous, and says nothing about both parents being U.S. born, which seems to be the basis of your argument. What is mostly talked about is “jurisdiction”. But the Constitution still does not convey citizenship on ALL people born in the U.S. and Native Americans were recognized as citizens long after African slaves were.
This is not the first time that the “natural born” issue has come up. It was claimed that Chester A. Arthur was born in Canada, not in Vermont. It was a possibility as his parents moved back and forth between the two nations for years. Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico, John McCain was born in Panama (on Panamanian soil, not on the military base which is considered U.S. soil). So…………..if Ted Cruz is, in your mind, ineligible, so was John McCain as there is nothing in the Constitution, or the writings of the founders, about two parents being a requirement for citizenship. Which poses the question; did you vote for John McCain, or Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.?
@retire05:
Nor do I. Their birthplace is not important, only that they be US citizens when the child was born. (no split allegiance)
I think we could both make long lists of things that are not in the constitution. From all I have read, it seems quite clear that the intent of Natural born was that the child be ‘naturally a citizen, a child of two citizens with allegiance only to the US. Had the intent been only to make sure he was born within the boundaries of the country, perhaps the term Native born would have been used. George Romney was born in Mexico of two US citizens. John McCain was born in Panama of two US citizens. Cruz was not born of two citizen parents, one had allegiance to Cuba, one to the US.
The Constitution did not need to mention that a child had to have two parents, that is a requirement of mother nature. but by using the common phrase of the day, natural born, it meant the two of them had to have allegiance to the same country, the US.
I voted for McCain, one: there was no issue of eligibility, two citizen parents. I didn’t vote for McCain because I thought he would be a good president, but because I was sure BHO wouldn’t be and wasn’t eligible. While I am positive Cruz would be a better president than most anyone else, he’s not eligible and I won’t vote for an ineligible person.
Retire, one more question. It seems as if you place more importance on ‘where’ the child was born. If that’s true, doesn’t Cruz being born in Canada disqualify him? I place no importance on where, just ‘to whom’. For example, a US citizen couple is on a cruise across the Atlantic and is born more than 200 miles from any land, I believe the child is a ‘natural born citizen’ of the US. Same circumstances except couple is one US citizen, one Cuban citizen. The child is born of split allegiance, half Cuban half American, certainly not ‘natural born’ anything. Same circumstances, parents are both Russian citizens, the child is born at sea. The first country the child arrives in is the US. That child is a Russian, not an American.
Ted Cruz cannot win the presidency because he’s more of the coo-coo for coco puffs crowd. He will energize the crazies (teabaggers) but his thinking and priorities aren’t aligned with main stream Americans enough to make it on the big stage.
Consider his leading the charge of the shutdown. The dumbass hasn’t caught on yet, or doesn’t care, that the American voters hated it and that they blame him for it.
I welcome a Cruz nomination just I do Palin, Carson, Bachmann, Herman Cain or Santorum. You see, all these nut jobs have had their moment in the sun but the realization that they’re non-productive glitter and half baked wacko birds always emerge.
Where you guys come up short is the refusal to realize the teabag movement is a “faction”, not a majority by any stretch. Yes, they won big time in 2010 but that was due to being orchestrated by prominent right wing extremist, bankrolled by billionaires, and constant free supportive air time by FOX news at an opportune time of exploiting the hatred of a black president in order to advance a pro-corporate and Plutocratic agenda.
People have caught on how unrealistic and dangerous they are and accordingly, we’ve seen them lose seats as well as popularity. A prime example would be the electorate’s solid rejection of the Ryan budget yet Ryan and TeaBaggers are still advocating that very budget, just as Cruz still advocates the shutdown.
Consider too that Americans by and large don’t want to to repeal PPACA in it’s entirety whereas establishment Republicans and teabaggers do. The thing is that establishment Republicans are more crafty and understanding of the strategies of winning elections whereas the teabaggers are more of a mad mob drunk by some foolishness that their actions have no political fallout. Consider the bagging faction of the House has promoted and even voted on ending the NLRB, overtime pay for workers, rejected a meager minimum wage, and much more that flies in the face of what main stream Americans want.
I hear bagger Rep Kelly Ayotte, the one that sponsored the ending of workers overtime, is throwing her name in the POTUS pool. So what’s going to be her slogan, “I’m from the government and I’m here to take your overtime pay away”?
Get it yet?
@Ronald J. Ward:
You sure are obsessed with teabagging. Where, when and how did you take up that obsession? I don’t see why you seem to want to denigrate something you are obsessed with? Have you been a teabagger very long? Are you the bagger, or the baggee? Does your Dad know you’ve taken that up? Is he proud of your achievement?
dumbass? Seems pretty intelligent, didn’t use a teleprompter once during his filibuster. (wait, you might see that as a defect since your guy can’t say two words without using his teleprompter.)American Voters? I qualify. Born in the US, both parents American, served in US Navy, yep, that qualifies me as an American. And this American loved his filibuster and I give him full CREDIT for it.
Is that kinda like your Nutjob that is having his moment in the sun now?
You’re back to that again? Didn’t you get enough earlier? Your mouth too small, or something?
Fox News eh? So one network is neutral and you have MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and they couldn’t pull it out for you?
Was one of those George Soros?
I resent you saying bad things about Walt Disney’s dog. he’s a good fella.
Wow, back to your obsession. You need to get back in bed with your feller and get caught up before it drives you nuts, or his, or whatever.
the correct word is OBAMACARE.
Wow, you are obsessed with this ‘bagging’ business. Your mom and dad must be proud.
@Ronald J. Ward:
What state is she a REP of? Is she related to Sen Ayotte?
Ronald J. Ward
there are no teabager here, you nut case, pronounce
TEA PARTY ONLY AND DOING A GOOD JOB AT SAVING YOUR ASS,
EVEN THE CREEPS HAVE A RIGHT TO LIFE AND FREEDOM,
OUR CANDIDATES ARE SUPER INTELLIGENT UNEQUIVALENT
TO WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR CORNER,
@Redteam: Your #131 is representative of the empty suit and strawman arguments you support.
As for # 132, yeah, my bad. Congresswoman Martha Roby of Alabama sponsored the “Family Friendly and Workplace Flexibility Act”, an end to overtime pay for American workers, the same person that acknowledged a need to “stop these communist tyrannical executive orders laid down by this foreign-born, America-hating communist despot”. Again, someone that’s a radical lunatic, at war on American workers.
That bill was supported in the Senate by Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R) from New Hampshire as well as Sens. Mike Lee (R), Tom Coburn (R), Ted Cruz (R), Orrin Hatch (R), Ron Johnson (R), Rand Paul (R) , James Risch (R), Pat Roberts (R), and Marco Rubio (R).
Working Americans have learned that teabaggers are out to do them harm, to take from them to give to their mega-donors while babbling some false interpretation of the Constitution.
Where were the teabaggers when working Americans were hit with a 2% tax last years? No where to be found because teabaggers have no interest in them other than to exploit them to to make the top 1% more money.
Consider Maine’s teabagger Gov. Paul LePage wants to deregulate state child labor laws.
Things like these will continue to energized the koolaid induced crazies like you but will fail when introduced to the national electorate.
And you can copy and paste each sentence and phrase and respond with non sequitur or nonsensical gibberish but it doesn’t change the reality that your Tea Party heroes are toast on the national stage.
Once again, get it yet?
As I rule I seldom get into the childish name calling game as you may notice, I don’t use sophomoric terms like “repukes” and such. I guess I just find the hypocrisy amusing when heads explodes from folks like you who say things like “Dimocrats” or Dr John’s “Democrat Party”.
@retire05: You have a bouquet of buffoons in that bunch; however, they never seem to be in danger of losing their positions, does that say something about the people who elect them?
I think you forgot to mention Maxine Waters. I wonder if she still wants to nationalize the oils companies?
@Ronald J. Ward:
Yes, I’ve noticed you don’t even call others teabaggers, you only refer to yourself that way. Quite honorable of you.
You are really enthralled by teabagging. How about telling us all about your experiences at the sport. Wait, never mind.
But I kinda get the idea that the way you use the word teabagger is as if the act is an insult. Have you asked all your gay buddies if they like you using their favorite activity as an insult?
I think there might be a couple followers on this site, but I haven’t noticed them chiming in from the ‘amen’ pew. You didn’t tell us if you’re the ‘bagger’ or ‘baggee’. Is it okay if we drop the RJW and just go with “ole TB”?
@Skookum:
I’m relatively sure she wants to nationalize herself.
@Ronald J. Ward: Ole TB, you said:
then you said:
So here you are telling me I didn’t have anything to say, then you apologize for being wrong. Must’ve been out TB too late. Tell your buddies to let you get home to get more sleep so you can keep your mind clear. Unless, of course, you’d rather be TeaBagging than right.
Redteam
YOU SAID SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT,
among other words also,
that is dual allegiance, I find the most important even more now, with so many millions ILLEGALS AND IMMIGRANTS who came, CARRYING MANY ALLEGIANCES NOT GOOD IN AMERICA, NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE HEART OF THIS COUNTRY,
since then, MORE MIX with different parents sources,
AND THE MIX SOURCES BEING MARRIED TOGETHER, HAVING CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN BORN IN THE USA BUT MENTALLY KEPT THEIR MIX ALLEGIANCES, WHICH WE HAVE NOW THE FIRST PROOF OF DISASTER IF THEY ARE PUT ON THE HIGHEST POSITION, INCLUDING THE DEATHS AND DISMEMBERD MOST MILITARY OF THIS WAR, BECAUSE OF THE MIX ALLEGIANCE, LACKING THE SOLID INGRAINED JUDJEMENT AMERICAN TO THE CORE, BUT WHAT IS NOW
OF OBAMA, WE CAN SEE AND ALMOST TOUCH, THE MIX ALLEGIANCE,
and we had CANDIDATES REPRESENTING THE SKIN COLOR OF AMERICA,ALSO BUT WHERE VILIFIED BY THE DEMOCRATS,ACCUSING THEM OF THE WORSE SIN,
WHILE COVERING A PERSON NO ONE KNEW, HE HAD NOTHING TO SHOW, AS OPPOSE TO THE MANY CHOICE,
WHO WHERE ALL QUALIFIED, AND HAD
NOTHING TO HAVE PREVENT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS TO BE PRESIDENT,
I believe MORE THAN EVER THE CANDIDAT LAST TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE FORCE TO PASS A TEST OF HIS ALLEGIANCE WE WANT TOTAL, OR BE DISCARDED FROM THE BOTH SIDES CANDIDAT AND BE PUT OUT OF THE GROUP,
HE WAS NEVER VETTED NOT EVEN A BIRTH CERTIFICAT, A DRUG USE WHICH MIGHT HAVE HALTER HIS BRAIN, HIS TENDANCY TO A BELIEF UNAMERICAN ALSO SHOULD HAVE PLAYED A ROLE VERY IMPORTANT, AS OPOSE TO ALL THE VETTING THE CONSERVATIVES WENT INTO,
WITH NOT IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ALTHOUGH VICIOUS, BUT NEVER WOULD HAVE AFFECTED THEIR MINDSET TO CHANGE AMERICA AND DESCENT HER IN HELL, NEVER ON THOSE CANDIDATES, YET MADE CRIMINALS BY THE OTHER PARTY INCLUDING THEIR MEDIAS SELLING THIS ONE OVER THE RIGHT CANDIDATES, WHO WHERE THE RIGHT STUFF,
THE 08 ELECTION WAS A GRAND THEFT OF AMERICA AND WHAT SHE STOOD FOR , ALL THESE CENTURY, AND AN UNPRECEDENT CABALE WHICH, YOU READ THAT NAME, RAMPANT IN THE 08 AND 12 ELECTION, THE WORSE SEEN, AND THE MOST DANGEROUS EVENT FOR HISTORY
TO BE NEVER REPEATED AGAIN, SO TO NEVER DO THE SHAME WHICH AMERICA WILL CARRY FOREVER NOW,
@ilovebeeswarzone: you’re absolutely correct Bees, we are seeing first hand how a person with no allegiance to this country and who has a goal to destroy it, can be the darling of the left. I don’t know if an allegiance test can be done, but at least we can require them to be 100% American.
@Redteam: Teabagger does indeed make your head explode doesn’t it. Why is it that when presented with something you don’t like, you take that as justification to just reinvent your own argument? Why is that?
The name teabagger is something the Tea Party gave themselves if you recall, even priding themselves with a slogan of “teabag Washington” and wearing tea bags draped from their hats. Little did they know that their very own ignorance would, shall we say, blow up in their faces.
But you conveniently sidestep the argument and copy/paste selective points, an expected rebuttal when you have nothing of substance.
Cruz is toast because his agenda doesn’t agree with main stream Americans.
As far as your 140 response to Bees, I don’t bother reading his/her’s diatribes as they’re just too painfully hard to decipher and put into an English context.
@Redteam:
then you said:
I don’t believe that you will find any requirement listed in the U.S. Constitution that requires a natural born citizen to have two citizen parents. As I said before, the framers spoke of jurisdiction mainly and allegiance. Is there any doubt in your mind that Ted Cruz’s mother held allegiance to the United States? And unlike you, and me, there are those that believe that if you are born of an American parent on foreign soil, you are not considered natural born. That would eliminate the children of diplomats, military and FSOs, including those like John McCain.
And Chester A. Arthur’s father was a Canadian citizen at the time of his birth. Do you think Mr. Arthur’s allegiance was to the United States, or legally to Canada, since he was not a U.S. citizen?
Actually, there was a question of John McCain’s eligibility, hence S. Res. 511 (110th Congress)
I don’t know how you came to that conclusion. I believe that the child of an American citizen is a natural born citizen, although I do not believe that the child of a foreign national, especially those here illegally, born in the U.S. is automatically eligible for U.S. citizenship, i.e. anchor babies. That is what is questionable, and, in my mind, must be addressed by the SCOTUS. Again, according to the Framers, it all revolved around “allegiance” and there is no doubt in my mind that Ted Cruz’s mother held allegiance to the United States.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Yes, English being a foreign language to you, I can see where that would be a problem.
Wow, you really do have an obsession, Ole TB. Tell your buddies to ease up on you a little, leave a little in your head.
@Ronald J. Ward:
As with most things, you are wrong.
A photograph of a Tea Party protester appeared on national TV. The far left (and disgusting) website Wonkette assigned the name “teabagger” to the man. Shorty after that, the disgusting Jeanine Garafolo was on TV and used the term to refer to the Tea Party protesters. The rest of the left ran with it.
Did some in the Tea Party use that term? Yes, but they did not know the connotation of the term, since most Americans are not all that into what homosexuals do behind the privacy of their home’s doors.
So before you run your mouth again, and again, you should get your facts straight or you will continue to represent yourself as the fool you are.
@retire05:
As I said, we could both make a long list of things we can’t find in the constitution. I don’t see any requirement that anyone have any parents. But that doesn’t mean they’re not required.
No, nor no doubt that his father likely held allegiance to Cuba. Do you believe a child inherits an allegiance to his mother’s country and not his fathers? I think each is likely, therefore creating a split allegiance.
That’s why that is likely not anyone’s intent.
I wasn’t around at the time and did not vote for Arthur. Pointing to misbehavior in the past is not a justification for misbehavior in the future.
Actually there was no question in my mind and that S. Res had no force of law. The constitution can not be amended via a Sen Resolution. Takes a constitutional amendment.
because you’ve mentioned where McCain was born, where Arthur was born, where Romney was born, etc. I place no value on where, only on who the parents are.
That’s the same as my belief and therefore, since they are not ‘automatically’ then they are not natural. Ted Cruz was born of a foreign national in a foreign country. Rubio’s parents were foreign nationals. Marco was an anchor baby. and Jindal.
I agree that split allegiance was the concern of the framers, therefore, they removed that doubt by requiring them to be ‘natural born’, but not native born.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Then why don’t you make as much of an effort to communicate with Bees in her native language as she tries to communicate with you in English?
@retire05:you said to RJW
He won’t get the message. I’ve tried to point out to him that using a term that apparently homosexuals apply to one of their favorite past times in a derogatory manner to describe non homosexuals activities of politicians is not an enviable position to be in. I don’t think his homosexual buddies are gonna be slapping him on the back tonight at their get together. He definitely has an obsession. Everybody got to have their kicks, I think we’ve identified RJW’s.
@retire05: I agree, I think Bees gets her message across very well.
@Redteam: Why would anyone expect anything other than that?
You agree that Dr John calling someone a pedophile wins his political argument.
You agree with Retire05 that 1.8% equals 18%.
You agree that any and all constructive arguments from the left is invalidated because Obama does bad things.
Of course you agree. Dumbass!
@Ronald J. Ward: Well Ole TB
actually I agreed with her statement, not her math.
Dr John didn’t call anyone a pedophile. He stated a hypothetical. (Check with dictionary.com for definition)
I think you should print out all your writing about teabaggers and show them to your ‘frateral order’ when you get together tonight. Happy teabagging tonight.