You’ve heard this, of course. Now hear it again. All of it.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3XTOjZPfg[/youtube]
The legacy line out of this tantrum clearly is
“WHAT DIFFERENCE, AT THIS POINT, DOES IT MAKE?”
But you’ve been bamboozled.
Let’s look at the fuller statement:
“With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?
(You’ll have to fill in the hysterics)
But then here comes the part no one paid attention to:
It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.
Huh? It is?
That was the point of the hearings.
On the one hand Clinton said that it didn’t matter what caused it but then asserts that it’s necessary to learn what caused it. Then she insists that we need to keep it from ever happening again but we can’t keep it from happening again if we don’t know what caused it. Saying “what difference…does it make?” about the cause is a pure dismissal of Clinton’s involvement (or lack of involvement) in the attack and dismisses the event itself. Then she hits the “reset” button immediately and seizes control of the exchange by asserting that we need to determine the cause of the event that she just dismissed.
This is classic Clintonism- take your query, stop it, seize it, take control of it and turn it around and escape the noose of responsibility.
Obama is a good politician. He is a grand liar but he is a good politician. He has placed women and persons of color in the most critical positions for a reason. Attack one and you are accused of misogyny. Attack the other and you are a racist.
On the other hand, Obama’s top advisors- mostly out of direct view- are mostly white men.
I posted this because I want you to pay close attention to what Hillary says and how she says it so, you know, you’re not bamboozled again. It’s going to be very important. We don’t need another four years of liberal disaster.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@Ronald J. Ward:
This, dear Ronald, is what I “sold.”
And I would bet a load of money on it.
@drjohn, #45:
The assertion that the video was relevant is not the same thing as an assertion that the attack on the Benghazi embassy was a totally spontaneous event. People want to pretend that it is, to provide a starting point for the argument that the Obama administration has engaged in some sort of extensive Benghazi cover-up.
Administration spokespersons mentioned the video early on because there was every reason to believe it had played some part in events. The U.S. embassy in Cairo had been under siege that very day as a result of demonstrations triggered by the video. The demonstrations spread to over 20 countries, turning violent in a number of Muslim nations. It was perfectly reasonable to draw an initial conclusion that the same thing had happened in Benghazi—that the difference there was the presence of anti-American factions equipped with armaments readily available after the overthrow of the Gadaffi regime.
By the Rose Garden speech on the following day, September 12, Benghazi was being framed by the White House as a terrorist act:
The right has devoted much time and energy to an effort to convince the public that “No acts of terror” somehow doesn’t refer to the very event that occasioned the statement itself—that the Obama administration has continued to assert that the video was the only reason a demonstration in Benghazi had spontaneously morphed into a coordinated terrorist attack.
This claim is totally ridiculous.
The second someone like Rona;d says “debunked” I shutter. Using talking points to “debunk” talking points! Shows a lack of knowledge and a lack of understanding on how you are being played. Anyone who still believes in Obama Care has been indoctrinated to the fullest. The Death Panels are sitting right there like an elephant in the room. Libs will NEVER admit Palin is right. Further, she seems to me to be a genius compared to BHO.
@DrJohn:
yep, I would too..
@Greg:
OMG, Greggie, can you parrot the administration any more than you already do?
I have told you, and the other lefties on this forum, that there was NO protest over some obscure video in Cairo. NONE.
The organizer of the Cairo protest, Mohammed al Zawahiri, brother of ObLs second in commant, clearly stated in the interview with Nic Robertson of CNN why they were protesting and it wasn’t some damn video. If you think it was, then I challenge you to find al Zawahiri’s statements that confirm your claim.
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1209/11/ctw.01.html
@The Dude:
so true. You can be sure that whatever follows the word ‘debunked’ from a BAL (brain atrophied liberal) is a lie.
@Ronald J. Ward:
He did.
@Redteam:
You know, I read the crap that is posted by those like Greggie, RW, RJW and this one, and I shake my head. Not only that, I have so many questions for them but I know they won’t answer them. But can someone tell me, please, why would anyone be such a devotee of Barack Obama when he is only a man. Just a man. Nothing more. Not a god, a man.
And what, exactly, is it that they think Socialism will achieve? Have they not studied history and the history of every Socialist movement in modern history? What do they think they will gain? I can only imagine they fit in one of two catagories; a) they are non-productive people who think they will get something for free and can continue to be non-productive or b) they are productive people who are not willing to put their money where their mouths are, and so they have no problem sticking their hands in someone else’s pocket.
If they are so worried about those who cannot/will not take care of themselves, why don’t they give all their own money away to those non-productive people? Is Socialism something that makes them feel good about themselves while hanging on to their own money and not having to step up to the plate?
I’m sorry. I will never understand the statist mind.
Pete
27,
today at FOX, that doctor was told she was to be cut 30/CENT, if she want to join,
she couldn’t BELIEVE IT, she refuse, saying that 60 PER CENT ACCEPTED, BUT 30 PER CENT REFUSE,
they are breaking the DOCTORS of this country, and devalue them and their years of study which never stop,
and what I think will happen is the foreigners will accept to work for much less, and the care will be devalue as well, because they won"t be allowed to give the time needed to them, and their healing process,
killing the quality of care and the quality of the doctor hired by obama for obama, and the patient will possibly not be able to survive with those cheap measures,
THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE IN CANADA ALSO, WHO ARE NOT READY TO MAKE A DIAGNOSTIC AND FROM OTHER COUNTRY WHO BOUGHT THEIR LICENCE,
I WAS WITNESS OF ONE YOUNG, HE DIAGNOSE THE PATIENT TO HAVE AN BLADER INFECTION, AND THE PATIENT BLADDER HAS BEEN REMOVE SOME YEARS BEFORE, HE WANTED TO GIVE A PRESCRYPTION OF ANTIBIOTIC, AND THE NURSE TOLD HIM HIS BLADDER HAS BEEN GONE A LONG TIME AGO,
HE TURN ON THE NURSE AND INSULTED HER FOR DARING TO CONTEST, THAT’S WHAT OBAMACARE WILL HAVE CHEAP
BY THE DOZENS, CHANGING AMERICA EVEN FASTER,
@Greg: The liberal media has absolutely no respect for the intelligence of the American public, in general, and their liberal followers, specifically, to try to throw the already “debunked” theory of the video causing the attack, something that has absolutely NO connected evidence to support it.
The video excuse was used for a matter of days and bypassed once how absolutely ridiculous the excuse was became clear and the administration, as it has done with the NSA, the IRS, Syria and Obamacare scandals, just tried another excuse. Apparently, some testing has shown the video excuse polls best.
@retire05: I think that is the real dilemma for freedom loving people. We want to take care of ourselves. They want someone to give them handouts. I think they just plain don’t think for themselves. They have shut down their own minds and only listen to the Socialists.
@retire05, #55:
You have indeed said that again and again, apparently unable to get the misconception out of your head despite all evidence to the contrary. As was pointed out only yesterday, the 09/12/2012 CNN transcript—which you yourself have again linked—clearly states that Cairo protesters themselves identified the video as a reason they were protesting. They told this to Ian Lee, who was on the scene during the demonstrations. CNN wasn’t the only news source reporting that.
Anyone who followed the news at the time knows the video was relevant. There were demonstrations across the Middle East all of that week because of the damn video. People were killed during those demonstrations. Had it not been for the violent reaction it triggered, no one would have given this goofball’s video the least bit of attention. It was newsworthy for no other reason.
Wikipedia has a map showing the locations where protests directly related to the video took place, along with information about what happened there. They haven’t just made it all up. It actually happened. Click on the many sources provided at the end of the Wikipedia article. The sources are various, numerous, and international.
People who watched the actual protests on TV (even al Jazeera) could find no proof that the video had any protestors out in Egypt that day.
There are pages of images on a search of the protests in Cairo that day and among them NO posters or images about that video either.
The fact that somebody may have, after-the-fact, attributed some protestors there to the video is as meaningless as when Osama bin Laden tied in the 9-11-01 attack on the fact that Islam had lost Spain over 400 years ago.
Meaningless.
Just an excuse.
The Blind Sheik was a main subject of the 9-11 protests in Cairo.
The Muslim Brotherhood wanted him freed.
PS, his little spy, that filthy woman lawyer just got out of prison on a medical.
She went there for passing messages to and from him and terrorists so as to coordinate attacks worldwide.
Greg
well they didn’t burn any video,
no they burn OBAMA’sFACE,
@Greg:
Greg
During those “protests” in Cairo ( a capitol) the US flag was town down. Can you tell us please which flag was raised?
Here’s a link to help you answer.
@Greg:
Below is the Nic Robertson interview with Zawahiri in Cairo, on September 11, NOT 9/112/12 as you wrongly stated.
“To make his point, Zawahiri leads me to a protest outside the U.S. embassy.
And this is the protest calling for the release of Sheik Abdul Rahman.
The so-called Blind Sheik, jailed for his part in the 1993 World Trade Center attack in New York.
We meet the Sheik’s son.
And when you call for prisoners to be released as part of your document, you’re talking about Sheik Abdul Rahman.
MOHAMMED AL ZAWAHIRI: Yes, of course. It’s a (inaudible)
ROBERTSON: The first one.
ZAWAHIRI: As proposed.
ROBERTSON: If Sheik Abdul Rahman is released, this can help improve the relationship. How does that work? Why does it change people’s minds?
“Because,” he explains, “it reduces the impression of U.S. arrogance.”
Zawahiri denies he is in contact with his brother, but says he could be if the U.S. allows it.
Do you think it’s realistic that the United States would release somebody like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the man accused of masterminding September 11?
“As you see, Sheikh Mohammed’s hand is stained in blood of the Americans,” he says. “We also see the hands of American leaders and soldiers stained in the blood of the Muslims. Those in prison with the Islamic movement would also be released. We want to turn a page and forget the past.”
Zawahiri has faith his brother wants to turn the page, too, but it wouldn’t be the first time the terms were unimaginable for western leaders.”
Now, Greggie, where is the mention of the video?
And tell us, Greggie, what does it benefit YOU to continue to carry the water for this administration that lied to you, lied to the nation, lied to Sean Smith’s mother and allowed four Americans to be slaughtered by a spin-off group of Al Qaeda?
@Redteam: You validate much of my regular point, that the arguments presented here are sophomoric nonsense that don’t stand up to scrutiny. DJ and I were having a discussion about the merits of death panels when out of the blue, he tosses in some rhetoric insinuating I’m a child molester and wa la, by your very own admission, he wins the argument. It’s just hard to rationalize with such abject stupidity.
Retire05 @ 58
Have I ever insinuated a devotion of Obama? No. But then again as is consistently demonstrated here, reality has little to do with how you guys justify your arguments.
As I’ve mentioned in previous comments, I’m more concerned about the present day conservative agenda. That is the fear. If you recall, I’ve said that a Republican super majority would end minimum wage, overtime pay, worker protection laws, child labor laws, most all safety net programs, Pell grants and other educational opportunities, continue to lower corporate taxes while passing them on to what’s left of the middle class, banking predatory laws, install people like Charles Koch on the Judicial Branch, further disenfranchise minorities and the poor, pretty much give their corporate donors keys to the country, and advancing their Plutocratic and Social Darwinism agenda, actually enslaving the poor.
It’s not that I support Obama but rather that I’m adamantly against today’s conservative’s agenda. I was arguing with an individual who said to me, “so you’ll vote for anyone with a “D” in front of their name”. My response was, “no, it’s just that I can’t vote for anyone with an “R” in front of theirs.
I think Bill Maher said it best,
@Ronald J. Ward:
That’d be interesting if Obama’s policies hadn’t increased the wealth gap and the income gap, made Wall St. really wealthy and my life harder, increased the number of those in poverty, kept unemployment very high, put record numbers on disability and created the lowest participation in the workforce in history.
The GOP had its chance to do all those nasty things you listed a decade ago and they didn’t.
Ronald J. Ward
the stupidity is all yours, and on all your comments here,
this one beat the other,
how the hell can anyone make this situation worse than it is,
the CONSERVATIVES HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE ON TAKING THE PRESIDENCY,
BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR AMERICA, AND INSTEAD OF DIVIDING HER, THEY WOULD UNITE HER,
and instead of destroying her, they would get the people working,
and instead of punishing her, they would help and praise the efforts of businesses,
and instead of leaving the poors in a stagnant life constantly which destroy them, they would teach them of their forgotten AMERICA OF THEIR PAST,
AND INSTEAD OF TEACHING BY INDOCTRINATION OF THE YOUNG WHO END UP IGNORANT,
THEY WOULD MAKE SURE OF THE TEACHER’s ability to do the right thing, AND SEE THAT THERE IS ACTIVE LEARNING OF THEIR COUNTRY PAST PRESENT AND FUTUR,
you are a messanger of doom like all your side, scary dude you all are against this tolerant people those who spill their blood for this AMERICA INCLUDING THE SCUM TRYING TO HURT HER,
who keep you all alive,
but time is changing and the people you have hurt, will get you down forever, and look at their ancestors actions as to how to rid their own usurpators aiming at destroying this country,
they did not fill the prison, they fought them until the traitors fell all on top of each other,
@Ronald J. Ward:
More hyperbole.
,
And you have yet to explain why all your fears were not realized when the Republicans held both branches of the Congress, as well as the Oval Office. Was that not a prime opportunity to do what you seem to fear? Why didn’t they do it then? Because you buy into a lie doesn’t mean that lie is true.
You seem to have a problem with the uber wealthy having an impact on our political arena. Yet, not surprisingly, you never mention the uber wealthy that supports leftist causes, like George Soros and the owner of Progressive Insurance, Peter Lewis. How many millions of $$ did Soros pour into trying to get George W. Bush defeated? Apparently, you approve of billionaires who support leftist causes but have a hatred for billionaires who support conservative causes. That confirms your position as “hypocrite.”
You seem stuck on your “Plutocratic and Social Darwinism” talking points. I suggest you come up with something better. It only shows your lack of individual thinking.
Well, to begin with, ususally the D or R is behind the person’s name, not in front of it. But you say you are against the conservative agenda, without saying what you believe that agenda is. And you, as with all liberal/Progressive/statists didn’t say what you support about the progressive agenda. We can assume that you support redistributive programs because it absolves you from giving away your own money. We can assume you support other laws that thwart our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms because if a liberal doesn’t like something, they don’t just avoid that something, they want to remove that something from everyone. Case in point: I don’t believe in abortion, so you progressives simply reply “Don’t have one.” You don’t believe in the Second Amendment, but do you say “I don’t support the Second Amendment so I am not going to own a gun”? No, instead you say “I don’t support the Second Amendment so I don’t want anyone else to own a gun.” I doubt you can comprehend the difference (lacking cognitive skills as you do).
Well, that says it all; as a progressive, you garner your opinions from a comedian.
@DrJohn: I’d be interested in knowing precisely what “policies” Obama pushed to widen that inequality gap. And if you can’t come up with any, I guess you can still win by calling me a pedophile, or, something.
Were you asleep during the 109th Congress? Do you actually want to revisit the Bill Frist era? Was that era good for working Americans? For anyone other than corporate donors? It’s actually what brought the economy to its knees.
They indeed had their chance and succeeded in many ways before the electorate “thumped” them and sent them packing. Their damage cannot be underestimated. Look at Citizens United, the Voter Rights, and an extremely unfriendly working man Judicial Branch they built.
@Ronald J. Ward:
I assure you that if you don’t post false accusations about me I will do the same.
As for Obama
1. Monetary policy (Wall St has done fabulously. I have not. Small business has not.)
2. Regulatory burdens More here
3. Uncertainty. Obamacare is a dagger to the heart of small business. Small business is the only group not given an exemption to Obamacare and bears the greatest burden.
@Ronald J. Ward:
I missed that the first time and can’t find it now. In any case, I was not referring to winning anything about that subject. I have heard no evidence on this blog that anyone is a child molester and will not accuse anyone of being one.
edited: Oh, I see now, back when you clearly falsely accused him of something so he came back and clearly falsely accused you of something just to make the point that clearly falsely accusing someone is silly.
@retire05, #66:
Zawahiri attributed the Cairo demonstrations to widespread anger over Omar Abdel-Rahman because doing so enhances his image and furthers his own agenda. He’s an Islamic extremist, and Omar Abdel-Rahman’s imprisonment is one of the extremists’ perennial complaints. Claiming full credit for the angry mob is an example of a tail trying to wag the dog.
Going along with Zawahiri’s claim to own the demonstrations and to speak on behalf of all the demonstrators reinforces the Benghazi fiction that’s been promulgated America’s political right. The truth is always more complex than such simplifications suggest.
@DrJohn: You folks can go back and forth forever.
Truth Obama approval around 40%. Congress both R and D under 20%.
Only R over 35% is Christie at 37%. You Conservs. will beat him up in attempt to deny him nom. If he gets nom. he’s already mortally wounded. If you nominate a Conserv. you’re bucking the electorate and will surely lose to a candidate like HRC.
Don’t get me wrong–I’m no fan of Hillary. But like the MAJORITY of Americans I will not vote for a Repub. who wants to reverse the gains made in civil rights, human rights and the protection of the environment.
The Dude
yes, and we haven’t seen SARAH PALIN at her best yet,
she had figure OBAMA from the start, that’s why she almost got killed, AND THE IRONY OF IT IS THAT SHE WAS NOT THE CANDIDATE, WHICH WAS McCAIN, CAN YOU BELIEVE?
THEY KNEW SHE WAS SUPERIOR TO OBAMA, THEY FREAKE UP,
and that’s why the MEDIA DEMONIZE HER, to the point of influencing the bunch of ignorant
spitting hate on her and death wish,ON FACEBOOK, WHICH ALLOWED IT, thOSE LITTLE CREEPS HAVE not ever met her before,
that”s how poison was the OBAMA side trying to destroy her personaly and using what she hold most precious, her own children, BECAUSE HE WANTED TO WIN NO MATTER IF HE DESTROY ANYONE,
SAME AS THE DEATH OF THE FOUR HEROS IN BENGUASI, HE LET THEM DOWN, TO DISCONNECT HIMSELF FROM THE ATTACK, BECAUSE HE HAD CLAIM THE ALQAEDA WAS ON THE RUN AND BINLADDEN DEAD, THAT WAS HIS MANTRA TO WIN 2012 ON MITT ROMNEY,
THAT BENGHASI DEATH WAS A STICK IN HIS ELECTION, AND STILL IS, HOWEVER HE WON,
WHICH EVER HE WON, WHAT EVER HE WON, HE LOST THE PEOPLE’S CREDIBILITY FOREVER,
IN 2008, they succeeded to back SARAH PALIN, BUT JUST FOR A TIME, because she saw the urgency to protect her children from those DANGEROUS THUGS,,and their LYING MEDIA,
ALL ON AN EVIL RAMPAGE,
they knew she could expose what she had discover of SKINIVING gimmick DARK HEART AND MIND, from him, from the start,
WHO SAID THE FALLEN ANGEL WAS PERFECTLY CREATED,
AND MOST BEAUTIFULL, WITH ABILITY TO WIN SOUL OF HUMAN FOR HIS OWNSELF HELL,
EXCEPT HIS DARK SOUL
@Richard Wheeler:
If a Republican president wanted to ‘reverse civil rights’, how would he go about that? Would he propose a law to make blacks slaves again? Re-segregate the schools? Just what is it that the Dims are afraid will happen to civil rights? You think a Republican might try to take away your right to own a gun? You think the Republicans might try to thaw out the South Pole? Or even the N. Pole? Which human rights are you thinking the Repubs want to take away? How would that be done? Christie will not run for president as a Republican. He’s not one. He would do the same things as president that Hillary would do.
Richard Wheeler
what gains ?
@ilovebeeswarzone:
That’s right bees, it was the Repubs that ended slavery……
there was never so many lost of lives, so many lost of limbs so many suicides ,
ALL THAT HAPPENED IN THE MILITARIES, in these last few years,
there was never so many depression on civillians and crimes commited as in these last years,
there was never such a 2000 book pages of regulation to outrage the people as these last 4 years
and mounting,
there was never so many attack on CHRISTIANITY, THAN
THESES LAST YEARS,
THERE WAS NEVER SO MANY ABORTED AMERICAN BABYS AS THERE WAS THESES LAST YEARS, A REAL APOCALYPSE
what benefits , none
@Redteam: What do you think Abe’s approval rating is among the Conservs. at F.A.? With the American people?
@Richard Wheeler: Don’t have a clue. I do know that he, as President, has ordered the death of more Americans than any other president. I don’t think that is something most Americans would give their approval of.
@ilovebeeswarzone: Your claim that @retire05: What part of English stumps you so?
Would you support Charles Koch for a Supreme Court Justice?
You impute opinions of me that I do not have, or you could not know I have as I’ve never expressed them in any of my writings. I am against abortion and very pro gun so your accusations are no more than the expected blind prejudice and bigotry from the right towards anyone that doesn’t kowtow to your rigid binary corporate lapdog mindset.
Redteam @ #73, your admission to not having a clue as to what the hell you’re talking about creates an excellent opportunity for self reflections which could help you look less foolish in the future.
Dr. John, the birther “accusation” was meant as a prime example of repeated fraudulent arguments coming from the right, perhaps as a comparison to hyped up nothingburger scandals like Benghazi.
Your links to “precise policies” implementing Obama as the inequality culprit are vague and uninformative, no more than a distraction from the reality that conservative policies are indeed the drivers. Why you even make that issue argumentative is beyond me.
Bees @ #80, your claim that abortions have increased in the past few years is incorrect. Your #76 was so nonsensical Im not even going to bother.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Didn’t happen, your BAL (brain atrophied liberalism) is showing up
@Ronald J. Ward:
Let’s see how you think this should work; you ask me a question, and I respond. Why doesn’t that work the other way with you? I have asked you, more than once, if you think a President is responsible for the unemployment numbers during his administration since you were quick to publish previous administrations unemployment figures indicating that you think they were responsible for those numbers.
So here is the way it really works; you answer my questions, I will more than happily answer yours. My guess is you know your answer re: unemployment numbers is a brick wall for you, either way.
Some of your opinions are quite obvious. No need for you to express them in words different than the ones you used. Other opinions you steer away from which means that you don’t want to reveal your opinions that you know most people would slam you over. Got it!!!
So you are of the opinion that anyone who supports capitalism is nothing more than a “corporate lapdog?”
You are one delusional, sick person, RJW.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Benghazi was a “nothingburger?” Really? Do you think Pat Smith, mother of Sean Smith, agrees with you? So why don’t you fill us in so we can understand how awesome the Administration was in handling an attack on American soil?
Were four Americans murdered on Sept. 11. 2012 in Benghazi?
Exactly what were the actions of the POTUS during the entire time of the attack?
Exactly what were the actions of the Secretary of State during the entire time of the attack on her personnel?
Who were the other U.S. government personnel in Benghazi that night?
What did they say about the attack, the perpetrators and the cause of the attack?
Why was Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9-11, knowing that there had been previous attacks carried out not only against the U.S., but the Brits and the Red Cross?
What was the Turkish representative doing in Benghazi that night? Why was Stevens meeting with a Turkish representative in Libya to begin with?\
Since you seem to think there was nothing nefarious going on in Benghazi, and that the Administration acted with the upmost responsibility, the onus is on you to prove it.
What a sick person you are to call the deaths of four Americans a “nothingburger.”
@retire05:
It would only be important to RJW if he could figure out a way to blame it on Bush.
@Redteam: You’re an argumentative fraud Redteam and should really be ashamed to exploit the death of 4 Americans as political tools in your quest to slam the opposition to advance your political agenda.
And that my friend, is precisely what you’re doing.
@Ronald J. Ward:
That BAL can’t take the truth, eh?
@Ronald J. Ward: @Redteam: What I find interesting is the relative silence found on the other FA articles, except this one. Have the Dem trolls been reassigned to Hillary duty, cutting their losses with Obamacare and everything else? After watching the circus that was and is the Obama campaign, it makes sense that Hillary 2016 conditioning needs to start now.
Notice the sudden “You’re exploiting the death of four Americans for your own agenda. How dare you!!” Yeah right. Obama and crew are most fraud-laden, exploitative bunch of bureaucrats this nation has ever seen. A common tactic is to commit a crime publicly, but make sure a spectacle is made by accusing someone else of the same crime just to take the heat off.
But as old Saul says, “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
Election, 2016. Here we go again. My hope is the electorate has either educated itself, or at least the low-information voters will stay home.
But with a Hillary 2016 bus ready to ferry them into the booth (with Dem propaganda loudly sitting on the wall above), I think my hopes are in vain.
@DrJohn:
It has? Where? By you, you mean?! The truth is you have slandered the New York Times reportes who worked on that story, called them liars and unethical. And you did it all without a shred of evidence. Is that DrJohn’s Law? Just write whatever you want without the fear of consequences? The NYT reporters don’t have the same luxury. They have a real code of ethics. They have to go to dangerous places to find the truth because they can’t just make it up. Do you? Here’s an idea, why don’t you or Breitbart – or anyone on the Right for that matter – put your money where you mouth is, fly to Benghazi and find out what happened? Put your ass on the line, instead of slandering those who actually chased the story to the source. I wonder, “Doctor” John, how you’d feel, as a professional, if someone who didn’t know you or anything about your professionalism and integrity, posted on the internet your real name and wrote that you have a bad habit of letting liberals die on the operating table, because you have no professional integrity. Because you’ll do anything for political reasons that’s asked of you by your shadowy masters. That’s exactly what you’ve written about David Kirkpatrick from the comfort of your living room. So where is the proof??
Ronald J. Ward
you this you that, you do you don’t, you are, you”re not,
did we ask you for a profile checkup?
no
so just give your opinion and don”t accuse if you don”t want to be accuse,
this blog is for exchanging opinion,
and you don”t like the other opinion,
the other don’t like your opinion either,
the only thing left for you is put up, like we do for you,
you act like you know it all, but, there is many here who are not telling but know a lot more than you, AND YOU CAN LEARN MORE BY READING THAN TELLING EACH WHAT YOU THINK OF THEM, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN OPINION ON YOU, AND THAT IS LESS WORTHY THAN WHO THEY ARE, but you learn that the CONSRVATIVES HAVE CLASS AND ARE TOO POLITE TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY THINK OF YOU,
BUT DON’T PUSH YOUR LUCK, YOU HAVE MANY FAULTS, MORE THAN WE HAVE HERE,
MEANING THAT YOUR NOT FIT TO EXPRESS YOUR VIEWS ABOUT OTHER HERE, STICK TO POLITIC, AND THE FALL OF OBAMA IN CREDIBILITY, EVEN BY HIS OWN DEMOCRATS
@Tom:
Oh my!!!! a Code of Ethics for the NYT reporters? will wonders never cease?
Rule No. 1. Never speak evil of a Dimocrat
No. 2 Never speak evil of a liberal
No. 3 Blame it all on Bush
No. 4 Hillary is our queen, kiss her ring.
I could go on, but you get the message and they only get more nauseating.
@Redteam:
How about the truth Redteam? Where were you and the bagging ilk when gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attacked the U.S. Consulate in Calcutta, India on 1/22/03 killing 5 people? How about the 12 dead and 15 injured at the Karachi, Pakistan U.S. Consulate on 6/14/02 or the bombing of U.S. diplomatic offices in Denpasar, Indonesia on 10/12/02 or maybe the 2 deaths in Islamabad, Pakistan on 2/28/03 when gunmen opened fire on the U.S.Embassy? On 4/12/03, 36 people died in the U.S, diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and where was the outcry? On 7/30/04 2 people were slain at a U.S. Embassy compound in Tashkent, Uzbekistan and baggers sat silently on their hands, just as they did on 12/6/04 when 9 people were killed at the Jeddah, Saudi Arabia U.S. Consulate, just as they did when armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” killed 4 and wounded 13 when they stormed the U.S. Emabassy in Damascus, Syria on 9/12/06.
Where were you hypocrites on 3/2/06 when the U.S. Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan when 4 people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy, a known target of his attackers, were killed? How about Athens, Greece on 1/12/07 or Istanbul, Turkey on 7/9/08 or Sana’a, Yemen on 9/17/08?
Where was the outrage? The deaths are quite real. The GOP invented scandal is a nothingburger. You are a bobbing head lapdog and dishonest political hack. And you don’t even do that well.
Tom
HAPPY NEW YEAR,
and the new york reporters did come out alive from benghasi, how come they are so buddy buddy with them?
money?
but the four young AMERICANS WHERE NOT to come out alive, how come? they call for help TO their own AMERICA WHO DID ALSO RAN AWAY FROM THEM,
NO MAN LEFT BEHIND? NOT WITH OBAMA,
HE LEAVE ALL AMERICANS BEHIND,
STEVEN ASK FOR HELP way ahead of time, 7 times,
and where let down, AND WHERE BRUTALY KILLED, AND THE AMBASSADOR WAS BEATEN BAD, HE WAS full of blood was DRAGGED still alive, TO AN HOSPITAL SAID OWN BY ALQAEDA AND WE DON”T KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO HIM BUT HE CAME OUT DEAD, i think of what they did
to KADAFI WHEN THEY HAD HIM BEFORE,
he turn out to be right by ruling with a strick hand,
so what ever the new york reporter say OR ASK, doesn’t hold, THEY ASK THOSE WHO RAN AWAY FROM THE ATTACK AND LEFT THE AMERICANS TO ALQAEDA, THEY KNOW NOTHING, should be shot for leaving their post,
causing AMERICANS their lives, they promiss to protect,
and obama took their words and denied the ambassador
demands 7 time in a few months where the CANADIANS EMBASSY, left before and the other BRITISH and REDCROSS,,
OBAMA was solid with his friend LYBIAN same as his
friend, in EGYPT MORSI A BRUTAL DICTATOR PUT THERE BY OBAMA,
@Ronald J. Ward: 94
So, unlike the Obama admin, the Bush Admin fixed the blame on who did it at all those places. We still don’t know about BenGhazi.
What’s a bagger? That a BAL term?
dishonest? I’ve acknowledged that you’re a BAL, what else do you want me to be honest about?
@Redteam: Alas, obviously I set my expectations for rational debate too high in a den of political argumentative lightweights.
I guess history started 1/20/09, or, something akin to such abject stupidity. Or maybe Bush should be exonerated for “keeping us safe”, or , again, whatever.
Where’s Retite05 with something like “provide links that there really was a Bush era”?
So, uh, call someone a “BAL” and that qualifies you as honest in all past and future discussions, or, or, or what the hell are you talking about?
“BenGhazi”???? Dumbass!
@Redteam:
How about this: while RJW loves to call conservatives “baggers” if the truth were known, he’s probably the one that loves “bagging”. I wonder if he is the bagger or the bagee?
Isn’t it funny how liberals love to use homosexual references as an insult? Like I said before, if it wasn’t for hypocrisy, liberals would have no platform.
@Ronald J. Ward:
No, you are following the a rule of the BAL: 1. If the facts are against you, argue the law.
2. If the law is against you, argue the facts. 3. If the facts
and the law are against you, yell like hell.
We all understand that you’ve lost track of the subject.
Absolutely. Incidentally, I didn’t ‘call’ you a BAL, I just pointed out that you are one. You can’t be a Lib and not be a BAL, it’s the same thing. I have no problem pointing it out.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Your BAL is showing. Why are you pointing out that you are a dumbass? oops, almost forgot; BAL.
but for the record the following are all ‘correct’ spellings of the word:
BenGhazi
Ben Ghazi
benghazi
ben ghazi
Benghazi
Take your choice.
end of spelling for BAL SPELLING 101