GOP Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner pledges to fix Voting Rights Act in 2013
Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) said Monday that he will attempt to replace, by the end of the year, the portion of the Voting Rights Act that was struck down by the Supreme Court.
Sensenbrenner’s comments came Monday at an event hosted by the Republican National Committee, commemorating the March on Washington.
Sensenbrenner said he wants to fix the law so that it is immune to court challenges.
“The first thing we have to do is take the monkey wrench that the court threw in it, out of the Voting Rights Act, and then use that monkey wrench to be able to fix it so that it is alive, well, constitutional and impervious to another challenge that will be filed by the usual suspects,” Sensenbrenner said.
Taking the stage after Sensenbrenner, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said, “I think Jim just made some news.”
The Supreme Court was correct to throw out the outdated, nearly 50 year old formula, Yet this idiot RINO wants to continue helping Democrats to steal votes with their corrupt vote stealing scams. The GOP needs a serious heavy duty colonic to get rid of these progressive, far-left RINOs.
More RINOs for the list:
OFA Rallies to Thank Ryan, Others for Immigration Reform Support
The following Republicans are considered by OFA to be possible ‘waver votes’ on the Senate’s amnesty-first immigration reform plan. Reps. Jeff Denham (R-CA), Joe Heck (R-NV), Dave Reichert (R-WA), Paul Ryan (R-WI), Aaron Schock (R-IL), and Dan Webster (R-FL). In the Senate, Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (KY), and Sens. Lamar Alexander (R-TN), Mike Enzi (R-WY), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) all have primary challengers.
Tea Party vs. GOP Battle Shaping Up for 2016
It’s time now to act, to begin scaring the hell out of all wish-washy Republicans, establishment elitist GOP’ers and even the hopeless RINOs. Time to inform them that we are “mad as hell” at their collusion with the Democrat progressives. Those conservatives and Republicans who are their constituents, should start righting and calling these members of Congress to let them know that their support for the Senate amnesty bill will severely endanger their chance at re-election. Join your local TEA Party groups if you will but, however you want to do it, make certain that your voice heard and where you stand!
God forbid the GOP have fair elections.
@Ditto#1 – I probably am not the best when it comes to writing to our “congress and senate” but, for what it’s worth I do it anyway…I am polite, and try to be as articulate as possible and stick to the subject at hand. I will however say what is on my mind….and, even though I am not in their “district” I remind them that while this may be true, they still ‘indirectly’ impact me when it comes to “their” vote on legislation that will affect the country… not just their districts…
They need to be reminded there are “real” people out beyond the Washington D.C. bubble whether they believe it or not… AND, we are “paying attention” to the issues…
Lately I have been letting them know that “We the People” still have choices when it comes to the Republican party….
Thanks for your RHINO list…
Are the ones who get elected as republicans, actually republicans? Were they republicans when they got elected, but saw all of the money and power they can get if they play along with the DC crowd? Were they democrats that pretended to be republican to get elected? Politicians who vote for WE THE PEOPLE, usually don’t get very big campaign donations.
@FAITH7:
Let’s keep adding to it, so Conservatives can have a good idea where the problem in the GOP lies.
Heller, Dean – (R – NV) Ran for his House of Rep seat acting as if he was a Conservative, and even voted with the conservatives while in the House. In his run for the Senate, hec ampaigned slightly more to the Establishment, but since he wone Heller has turned out to be yet another lying RINO. He clearly lied to Republicans during his campaign, saying that he would oppose any immigration reform bill until the border was secured. He is now open to more taxation. During is campaign the Nevada Republican held a key campaign rally at a Las Vegas gun shop to bolster his Second Amendment chops. Now he’s leaning toward support for universal background checks despite objections from the National Rifle Association. Nevada voters should have looked at his State Assembly record where Heller tended to vote like a casino backed RINO.
#5
It would be easier to make a list of the non-RINOs. It would be much shorter.
On immigration…What infuriates me with just about all of those in Washington DC who lean towards amnesty is their flagrant dismissal of our Laws… it was these illegal people who ‘chose’ to break our laws by coming here and staying here. Hoping they wouldn’t be noticed.
It infuriates me even more when these same people, who broke our laws “demand” amnesty, “demand” health care, welfare…could anyone imagine “demanding” such things in any other country?
Then our bimbos in Washington DC justify their immigration amnesty voting actions by hiding behind a “it will break up families” mantra? This is a bunch of crap….know why? I work with 2 people who came from India… a girl who came here (legally) from India, she is in America and she still has family in India. Isn’t her family broken up? How about the gentleman I work with who still has family in India? Aren’t both families in essence broken up? So, what really is the argument from these politicians? There IS no argument…
When is the Law Breaking Responsibility ever going to be placed on the individual or individuals who chose to break it? Exactly what “message does this send” ???
No wonder we have a segment of the population that are cheats, liars and moochers…our Government is an “enabler”. And in this instance for nefarious reasons, our President and plenty of our weak Politicians are leading, once again, the charge on it…with their stupid “reasoning(s)” behind their leanings.
It’s for just that reason I am now a libertarian. The GOP left me a long time ago. I had to find an organization that represented me and my point of view. Less government not more and no kissing the dumbocraps ass.
@This one:
“Said the scorpion to the frog.”
Unfortunately the RINO inclination doesn’t always show up until they are firmly entrenched.
Coldwarrior57
hi,
I think to be secure, SARAH PALIN is well organize
to find what you’r looking for, and the TEA PARTY IS ON HER SIDE,
i FIND THEM LEGITIMATE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF THE PEOPLE.
BYE
@Smorgasbord:
Yes, it would be easier and shorter, however the “easiest” route is how we continue to get stuck with these damn RINOs who need to be exposed for what they are. Otherwise their constituents don’t realize that their progressive Republican is part of the problem, because no one tells them. Voters no longer have the time to personally vet their candidates, so they tend to listen to the MSM who tells the public that they are “moderates” which is simply not true. Every one of these RINOs is a leftist progressive who wears a GOP badge in order to appear as mainstream. They are political grifters. Each election season they hide their progressive intentions and speak the expected rhetoric to fool voters into thinking that they are something they are not. It needs to be shouted out from the mountain tops and blogs, that these people are false conservatives and progressives. It needs to be repeated enough that those who vote in their district will realize that these incumbents little more than opportunistic, elitist con artists who only want to continue playing the voters for suckers to enrich themselves and their cronies.
Yes, we should also work on providing a Constitutional Conservative voting guide, and we need to push promising, altruistic constitutional conservatives into running for office. There are quite a few that the progressives have culled from the Pentagon and military, so that should be a good starting point. While you have to be careful in selecting “celebrities,” there are among them some very good conservatives that could be cultivated for public office. (Warning, some of those on the linked page such as Neil Cavuto are actually Establishment Republicans, not really conservative, which is why they need to be vetted. Then again there are a few on that page’s list that may even fool some leftist Dems into thinking they are one of them.)
Clint Eastwood would make a great Senator as would Gary Sinise. Jon Voight isn’t really doing anything else right now, so why not run for Governor of one of the states?, The need to provide candidates that the people can trust requires us to carefully vet out wise Statesmen from the fools who spew stupidity that will doom their election. That vetting is necessary because the MSM will look carefully for any thing derogatory to use against a true conservative. we need to start looking now for 2014, otherwise we will just be seeing the same old status quo progressives.
@Ditto: #12
Two ways to let the republicans know you don’t like what they are doing is to quit the party, and don’t donate to them. I had a republican fund raiser call me once, and I told him I don’t belong to the party, and I won’t donate to them, and that if I donate, it is to the candidate. I explained to the guy that the republicans have had the congress and the white house different times, and never fixed Social Security, reduced the national debt, reduced the size of government, reformed the welfare system, etc., and he was quiet for a few seconds. We had a few more words and that was it. LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND DON’T DONATE TO THEM. That’s the only way to get their attention.
Interesting screed. So, allowing Democrats the opportunity to vote allows them to “steal” elections so the “Constitutional” thing to do is to create laws preventing Democrat leaning voters that opportunity.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Ronald, I think you are trying to ask a serious question, however you missed the intent. I don’t think ‘anyone’ has proposed creating any law that prevents Dimocrats from voting. If so, please point that out. I think every US citizen, except those prohibited by law such as some convicted felons, etc, are entitled to vote. But only once in each election and not vote for someone else. What I’m saying is that a valid ID should be a minimum requirement. Now, I can’t imagine any situation in the US where requiring a valid ID should be a hindrance. I recently applied for a drivers license with the word VETERAN on the photo, to get it, I had to provide a copy of a DD214 that showed I had served and received an honorable discharge. I did that. I didn’t consider those requirements to be a hindrance to me. It’s something I wanted. I can’t personally imagine any adult citizen living in the US that doesn’t already have a valid ID, but then, who knows. Anyhow Ronald, point out where anyone said they wanted to create roadblocks to Dimocrats voting.
Ronald J. Ward
is in it what the DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN DOING FRAUDULENTLY?
no REPUBLICANS play in that gimmick
because they would have won,
they are too honest to sell their soul to win,
BYE
@Redteam: I think reasonable Americans that are abreast with this argument understand that the need of voter ID is pretty much a non sequitur. Really, looking at all the voting obstacles such as college student residence, DVM redistricting, cutting or underfunding voter districts of Dem leaning precincts, what specific IDs are valid and what aren’t (gun permit okay, university ID no), intentional complications in the elderly acquiring IDs (states making it impossible to acquire an ID without a birth certificate AND making it impossible to acquire a birth certificate without an ID) , early voting curtailed in Dem leaning districts, harsh penalties for voter drives that fail to dot an “I” or cross a “T”, and I could just go on and on, all under the ridiculous argument of voter ID fraud (which has been proven as something that really doesn’t exist), undermines your very own argument. And it doesn’t help your case when GOP leaders have time and again slipped and conceded that the objective is to keep Dem voters away from the polls. You and I know this. John Q. Public knows this. It really isn’t argumentative.
And if you want me to provide links and actual quotes from your GOP friends, that isn’t a problem at all.
Now, understand that from a political perspective, I’m not really blaming the GOP in using whatever tools and strategies at their disposal to win elections. The political environment is indeed a dog eat dog fight for survival and every seat from a state level up is a needed asset for either party in order to advance their agenda. Nobody said either side ever played nice or ever was expected to. But just don’t insult my intelligence or yours with some silly naive concept that this is about elections being altered by fraudulent voters slipping in without IDs or that IDs or lack of have been the culprit of election outcomes. That argument is just so stupid and unrealistic (as well as proven to be false) that it makes you look like a desperate snake oil salesman struggling for survival. The dishonesty of the voter ID scam is so profound that you’d be better off simply leaving it alone.
Ronald J. Ward
nothing stupid when the election is split in two by such a small margin you need to update from when votes where trusted to be a GOD GIVING VERY IMPORTANT ACTION,
times are chagin, YOU DEMOCRATS must adapt to
new measures to stop VOTERS from abusing a very important system which contribute to ELECT the wrong people with only a mouth and a demolishing AX
Bees, your comment “when the election is split in two by such a small margin” does indeed speak volumes.
To add that Dems “must adapt to new measures to stop VOTERS from abusing a very important system which contribute to ELECT the wrong people” amplifies your statement.
We have a divided electorate which accordingly results in an election “split in two by such a small margin” that “new measures” must be incorporated to insure the “wrong people” aren’t elected. All of this of coarse is under the false and misleading context of “voter fraud”. It’s not about voter fraud but rather about preventing the electorate from electing what the opposing party empowered in many states deem to be “the wrong people”.
Thank you for at least being honest on this abject assault on our Constitution.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Ronald, that’s rather humorous and something I would expect a Dimocrat to say. First, you’re ‘imagining’ some argument that I might try to make and then tell me I am stupid for trying to make that argument. Maybe your imagination shouldn’t be so vivid, I didn’t make that stupid argument, you made it up. But now,
tell me how any one of thes ‘imagined’ infractions affects Dimocrats more than it does Republicans? Is it harder for a Dim to get a college student ID? How do they ‘redistrict’ Dims differently than Repubs? how is it more difficult for an elderly Dim to get an ID than an elderly Repub? How does early voting curtailment affect Dims more than Repubs? How is the penalty more harsh for Dims in voter drive inadequacy than it is for Repubs? Instead of going ‘on and on’ why don’t you start at the beginning and tell me why it is harder for a Dim to get a state issued ID than it is for a Repub? Are they dumber, more stupid, poorer, more ignorant? Just what is the hang up?
What difference does it make as long as it is the same for both political parties? Are you actually saying that if a Dim and a Repub each have a valid birth certificate, that it is harder for the Dim to get a State issued ID than it is for the Repub? Which state is that in?
@Ronald J. Ward:
Would you agree that the Repubs think that Dims are the wrong people and that the Dims think that the Repubs are ‘the wrong people?
Is one more accurate than the other?
@Redteam: I’ve come to learn over the years that discussions from folks that have to use condescending and childish retorts such as “Dimocrat” etc, is usually a waste of time. Realistically, if your argument had it’s own legs to stand on, why would it need to depend on such a crutch? But I digress.
If you don’t have knowledge of the very questions you ask, why on god’s green earth are you trying to debate on a political blog. Such questions of demographic, age, minority, etc voting statistics could might be expected at the office water cooler or the neighborhood bar but you have the Internet at your finger tips. Yet you ignorantly respond as if you’re undecided which finger to scratch your head with.
I have no time for such distracting foolishness and/or profound ignorance.
The accuracy or inaccuracy is an aside. The question is does one side have a right to deliberately disenfranchise the other in our voting process? Today’s conservatives seem to say yes. Our Founding Fathers would strongly disagree.
@Ronald J. Ward:
So you’re saying that you are so profoundly ignorant that you don’t know the answer? Then you could have used your earlier tactic of ‘making up a question that you think I might ask and then pretend like I did ask it and then answered your own ignorant question.
The spelling of Dimocrat, I use spell correction on my computer and every time I spell it any other way, the computer automatically inserts the correct spelling: Dimocrat. It knows the truth.
Just one itty, bitty one: Why can’t a dimocrat get a valid ID as easily as a Repub? Too stupid, ignorant, poor, misguided, etc, ? There has to be an answer.
Ronald J. WARD
YOU’R INSULTING RETORT tell me that you have no clue on the subject you try to explain,
to us here ignorant human,
could you elaborate expand to a civic comment,
much oblige
@Redteam: This a worn out argument that’s been debunked over and over again, undeserving of a response. With that said, I’ll copy and paste something I wrote well over a year ago. This was before the GOP took this scam to a new level.
There is no voter fraud problem.
The Voter ID laws were likely the GOP scam of the year as they have absolutely nothing in the world to do with fraud but rather to suppress Democratic voters.
Dorothy Cooper, 96 of Chattanooga, after voting since she was 18, is denied voting next year because of a technicality. Virginia Lasater, 91 cannot stand in the long DMV lines so for the 1st time in her adult life, won’t be able to vote. Thelma Mitchell, 93, even after a 30 year career of cleaning the TN state capital building, is unable to vote because the midwife in 1918 never registered her for a birth certificate.
Under Wisconsin law (and others are similar or as asinine), you need a photo ID to get a birth certificate. The only catch is that the birth certificate requires a photo ID. Usually, this can be resolved with a $20 or higher fee which is in reality, an unconstitutional poll tax. And for those willing to pay, many can’t endure the long DMV lines.
So one would think that when these problems are identified, they’d be tweaked or adjusted. But in WI for example, Gov Scott pushed to close 16 DMVs in Democratic leaning precincts while actually opening several in Republican precincts.
The Associated Press reported that South Carolina’s voter I.D. law “appears to be hitting black precincts in the state the hardest.” Wesley Donehue, a political strategist for the South Carolina Senate Republican Caucus that actually championed the law’s passage, Twittered that the AP report “proves EXACTLY why we need Voter ID in SC.”, a sheer admission that it had nothing to do with voter fraud but rather about suppressing votes of blacks, other minorities, the poor, the elderly, and people that as a rule, vote for Democrats. With voter fraud convictions being at .0002%, anyone of reasonable knowledge of the issue understands that this was all about voter disenfranchisement and had nothing to do with voter fraud.
But this issue really isn’t arguable as any way you slice it, the facts are indisputable and speak for themselves. It’s purely intended to disenfranchise voters and nothing else. Th following questions come from language or rules implemented in state so called voter fraud ID bills.
1) Why was there an all out push to have such a controversial fight to solve a nonexistent problem? (.0002% voter fraud or you’re 39 times more likely to be struck by lightning)
2) Why have most states refused to work with Universities in order to except student IDs? However, in Texas, a concealed weapons permit (applies to more Republicans) is acceptable where a university ID is not.
3) Why would Governors, after learning that Democratic area DMVs were bottle necked with applicants, intentionally close said DMVs yet open more in GOP precincts?
4) Why the barriers for registration. The GOP seems to follow a playbook state to state discouraging drives such as Rock the Vote and the League of Women Voters with huge fines and/or imprisonment for minute and irrelevant glitches or failure to turn in a registration within 48 hours?
5) Why have states, after researching that many of the poor, elderly, and college students often wait until closer to voting date to register, eliminate same day registration or move registration deadlines further from the voting date?
6) Why wouldn’t states do something to correct the problem that many can’t get a photo ID without a birth certificate but they can’t get a birth certificate without a photo ID?
7) Why have several states prohibited ex-felons(which again, seldom vote for GOP) of nonviolent or less severe crimes from voting?
At the end of the day, everything validates the intention to suppress the Democratic voters. And all the GOP can do is cry “voter fraud” which is non existent. Even many legislators such as State Sen. Chuck McIlhinney (R-PA) has openly admitted that there’s no evidence of fraud yet like others, he was pushing it anyway.
And just recently, House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R-PA) admitted that the House’s intention on Voter ID was for political gain, even admitting; “We are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that we’ve talked about for years, Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”
Any way you slice it, the ID laws are likely the GOP scam of the year.
That was a year ago. Getting a bit closer to the present, as Jamelle Bouie explains Republican admissions of late:.
@Redteam: One would assume that if you found your spellcheck to be inaccurate or flawed, you’d reconsider your available resources. One would assume that when you found yourself in error from that incorrect source, you’d quit making that same mistake as well.
Yet, you proceed making the same mistake.
One of reasonable intellect could quickly deduce that you’d be just as adamant of sticking to your failed logic and misinformation of this argument, regardless of how wrong your sources are proven to be and regardless of how wrong your argument is proven to be.
With that said, trying to rationalize with you appears akin to trying to teach advanced calculus to a tree frog, something that’s simply not worth the time and effort.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Ronald anyone that is Dim enough to write that total crock of Sheite that you wrote in the two comments above this one can truly be referred to as Dim. I doubt that you can understand that tho. As far as the other two comments, you said a lot and I will respond separately from this comment.
@Ronald J. Ward:
First, Dorothy Cooper had not been able to vote since she was 18, the age was changed to 18 from 21 in 1971. She would have been about 52 at that time. Was she denied ‘only’ because she was a Dimocrat, or would the same disability have applied if she were a Repub? Virginia Lasater, 91 would have been able to stand in that line if she were a Republican? Why did Virginia wait until she was 91 to get a driver’s license? Thelma Mitchell, 93 would have been able to vote if she had never registered for a birth certificate if she were a Republican? Why did this only come up after she got to be 93? Did she ever have a driver’s license in her lifetime, prior to age 93?
And this only applies to Dimocrats? I doubt there is a state in the country that requires a photo ID to get a birth certificate. I know for a fact that the state of Georgia does not require one. (It may be required of Dimocrats though, I hadn’t thought of that)
University ID’s do not require any proof of who you are. Concealed carry permits require absolute proof of who you are.
Is the New Black Panthers standing outside polling places a Republican tactic also? Are you saying that the precincts in several states that more than 100% voter turnout with 100% of it for the Dimocrats were all above board and voter suppression was fully underway in these precincts by the Repubs? They didn’t do too well, did they?
Tell us all again how this applies only to Dimocrats and how do they know it is a Dimocrat that is applying for the photo ID. My state doesn’t ask me what political party I’m a member of when applying for a driver’s license. And as I said, I don’t believe ANY state requires a photo ID to get a birth certificate. Print out a copy of that state requirement and post it. (Make sure it says it only applies to Dimocrats)
It’s a pretty big admission by you that most felons are Dimocrats. There should be consequences for committing felonies and losing your voting privilege is only one of those. I suspect that Repubs also lose their voting privilege if they are convicted of a felony. Post a copy of a state voting requirements that allows convicted Repubs to vote but does not allow convicted Dims.
Chuckle, that’s funny. So let’s get this straight. Dims DO NOT benefit from voter fraud so it is very important that no move be made to ensure that voter fraud NOT exist and that will benefit the Repubs? If they DO NOT benefit from it, how will ensuring that voter fraud not exist be detrimental to Dimocrats? It shouldn’t change a thing, should it?
I can hardly wait to read your response to these items, I’m laughing already.
Ronald, here are the requirements to obtain a birth certificate in the state of Wisconsin, from their official web site:
See that last little section there:
That seems to allow at least 6 items that may be used that DO NOT have a photo ID on them.
I guess you’re going to say that only applies to Republicans.
Want to bet EVERY other state is not similar? Don’t underestimate the amount of material available, uh, for Republicans, on the internet.
@Ronald J. Ward: #26
If it is the republicans doing the voter fraud, please explain the two Black Panthers in Philadelphia who were trying to drive off whites from voting, but Eric Holder wouldn’t prosecute, the voting machines that changed a vote for Romney into a vote for obama, the poll watchers who were forcibly removed from the building for several minutes, the voting districts that had a 98%, 99%, 100%, and even 108% of the eligible voters? You also didn’t mention that anyone who doesn’t have an ID can get one for free, and free transportation can be arranged.
I have some questions for you:
(1) Should a person have to prove they are a citizen of the USA, and have not been restricted from voting, to vote for a candidate?
(2) How many times should a person be allowed to vote in each election?
(3) If you agree that only qualified citizens should be allowed to vote, and that they should only be allowed to vote once, how do you suggest this be done?
Here’s your chance to solve the problem without them having an ID.
@Redteam: #30
I would like to add to your comments. I am talking to Ronald.
Under Wisconsin law (and others are similar or as asinine), you need a photo ID to get a birth certificate. The only catch is that the birth certificate requires a photo ID. Usually, this can be resolved with a $20 or higher fee which is in reality, an unconstitutional poll tax. And for those willing to pay, many can’t endure the long DMV lines.
You get a birth certificate at birth. What you are referring to is a COPY of a birth certificate. How hard do you want it to be for me to get a copy of YOUR birth certificate? This is one thing that helps the ID thieves take over a person’s identity. Should I have to show an ID to get a copy of YOUR birth certificate?
More republicans apply for concealed carry permits to defend themselves against the radical democrats. Have you ever heard of ANY violence from a conservative rally? That is the only way the liberals know how to protest.
Again, you get a birth certificate at birth. You have to prove you are who you say you are to get a COPY of the birth certificate. If a person can’t prove who they say they are, do you want them to get a copy of the person’s birth certificate that they say they are. What if they say they are you? Should the agency give it to them?
@Smorgasbord: Smorg, as I pointed out to Ronald, the rules of the state of Wisconsin do not require photo ID of a person to get a copy of their own bc. His question is just a red herring. I did note, and point out, that the same rules apply for both Dimocrats and Republicans. Ronald seems to believe that Wisconsin only requires proof if the person is a Dimocrat. Though I see no place on the request where your party affiliation is required to apply for a copy of a birth certificate.
@Redteam: #34
I think Ronald is playing with you, but I was in a playful mood, and had the time. I like to be reminded of things from the past, that I shouldn’t forget, and I like to remind others sometimes too. It helps us not forget. What Ronald hasn’t figured out yet is that his constant bantering is actually making us think about stuff the democrats don’t want us to. I wonder how many people have actually looked up some of the stuff he said, and found it to be false.
Redteam, uh, cherry pick much? Aside from your evasive and somewhat misleading responses to your “selected” questions (comparing The League of Women Voters to the Black Panthers?), you avoided some quite relevant ones;
1) Why was there an all out push to have such a controversial fight to solve a nonexistent problem? (.0002% voter fraud or you’re 39 times more likely to be struck by lightning)
3) Why would Governors, after learning that Democratic area DMVs were bottle necked with applicants, intentionally close said DMVs yet open more in GOP precincts?
5) Why have states, after researching that many of the poor, elderly, and college students often wait until closer to voting date to register, eliminate same day registration or move registration deadlines further from the voting date?
Now, you can give similar responses I suppose like “show me that’s true” or “how does that not apply to Republicans” which only demonstrates an abject ignorance of the subject or some profound denial of the facts.
Smorgus, do you understand that you actually validated my argument?
My question was
Your response was
Exactly. That’s somewhat understood.
Also Smorgus, there are many elderly people that never had a birth certificate but have voted all their lives. Your response seems to follow some mindset of “sorry about your luck”. You also dodge that $20 “poll tax”.
You guys can nitpick it, cherry pick it, blame Democrats, or whatever you like but it’s an understood reality that Republican controlled states have exploited the Voter ID issue by enacting it into law with other restrictions and impedance with a clear objection of disenfranchising voters who tend to vote for Democrats. Deliberately creating long lines in Democrat leaning precincts for example, does not address the voter ID issue.
Voter ID fraud is a non existent problem.
Prominent GOP leaders have admitted the intent was to keep Democrats from the polls.
Most right leaning blogs completely ignore this topic as they know they have no argument.
Disenfranchising amendments were added to the law that had nothing to do with voter ID.
At this point, states and the GOP no longer even seem interested in defending the scam as disenfranchisement as they’re more focused on defending themselves against lawsuits and the possible backlash of being struck down.
It’s a blatantly partisan scheme intended to rig elections and everyone knows it. Why do you blindly defend it for what it isn’t?
Ronald J,Ward
you remind me of a blind bat,
evading reality to cover your party is what you would call it, unclean,
that one opening her computer as an officer of the election voters,
she saw a flash of 400 instant votes popping up for OBAMA,
THIS OTHER OFFICER VOTE 7 TIMES, SHE WAS CAUGHT AND IN PRISON,
and one town where not one vote for MITT ROMNEY,
you can be assure of the UNIONS PARTICIPATION TO DETRACT THE VOTES FOR THEIR GUY,
NOW THEY HAD ALL THEY WANTED, THEY WARN OF NOT VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRATS,
IF THEY DON’T GET A DEAL ON OBAMA-CARE,, THEY WILL GET IT,
AND THE OTHER GET WHAT? SHEET,
SO MANY MORE ON THE LAST ARITHMETIC ELECTION ,with thousands of computers
calculus yes not an election, but a giant THREATENING
disaffection of the CONSTITUTION,
YOU CAN CHECK FOR YOURSELF BUT DON’T TELL BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE ADMITING THAT THE TRASH WAS ALL OVER THE VOTING BOOTHS
CURT
ALERT
NAVEL YARD SHOOTING RAMPAGE IN WASHINGTON
ONE MILE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE,
THEY ARE STILL LOOKING FOR THE SHOOTER, who barricade himself inside ,
4 victim but unconfirmed 7, around 8am ,
fox is on it since. THE AIRPORT IS CLOSE DOWN, FLIGHT RESTRICTED OUT OF REAGAN NATIONAL AIRPORT
SAID 6 FEET TALL MALE IS THE SHOOTER,
SEVERAL WOUNDED MORE
8 CIVILIAN ONE POLICE OFFICER AND ONE MORE
AT LEAST 10 WOUNDED
CURT
THE SHOOTER IS WOUNDED AND CONTAINED
BUT NOT YET IN CUSTODY, A TALL BLACK MALE
THE NUMBER OF WOUNDED RISE TO 12 NOW,
CURT
TWO GUNMAN CONFIRMED,
THE POLICE IS LOOKING FOR THAT ONE.
CURT
they are back to 10 wounded
THE SHOOTER DEAD
CURT TWO MORE SHOOTERS POSSIBLY ARE NOT BEEN FOUND
ONE WHITE MALE AND A BLACK MALE BOTH IN UNIFORMS,
AND MANY DEAD IN THERE NOT COUNTED YET INSIDE,
AND MY OPINION IS THE FOLLOWING
It look like a COMMANDO OPERATION,
MORE: 7 KILLED AND 5 WOUNDED LAST COUNT.
more: now 12 confirm dead
@Ronald J. Ward: #36
It’s easy to make a statement like that. Tell me what primarily Dim district DMV offices were shut down in and Which Gop districts got new DMV offices. Examples from 12 states will be sufficient. you may cherry pick.
you forgot to cite proof. How do they allow only Repubs to register the same and not Dims?
did you overlook the fact that I supplied you with proof that you were wrong in Wisconsin. And you didn’t even mention it? Does that indicate abject ignorance on your part?
Tell me which states issue drivers licenses which identify political party? Tell me which states issue birth certificates identifying political parties. Tell me which states issue Student ID’s identifying political parties.
Copy and Paste ANY statement I’ve made where I mention “The League of Women Voters” other than this statement.
Give us JUST ONE example of this. Just one.
You will concede this is a right leaning blog? is it being ignored here? only by you making claims you ignore providing proof of.
If I’ve missed any, it’s not intentional.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Tell me how many districts in the US have ever voted 108% for the Repubs and how many districts in the US have ever voted 108% for the Dims. Hint: one of those events happened in the last presidential race.
@Ronald J Ward.
Gee, in Texas a Concealed Carry License is considered a valid, State-issued ID because it is issued and controlled by the Texas Department of Public Safety, the same entity that issues our drivers licenses and State ID cards. State Universities have less stringent rules for student IDs, and are not authorized by the Texas State Legislature to use them for ID purposes other than for on-campus use.
Wanna try again?
I’d love to see what BS Straw-men and Red Herrings you think you are intellectual enough to drag-out next.
@ThunderGod: He throws them out, but never backs them up.
The reasons why Student ID’s are not acceptable for voter photo ID is because you do not have to be a citizen to get a student ID. Student ID applicants are not screened to determine if they are eligible to vote. It is also because Student ID’s are generally manufactured by student body members, and it would be easy for one of the students to crank out a plethora of multiple ID’s for dishonest people who want multiple voter identities.
Yes vote fraud is real, and you don’t even have to go so far back as Tammany Hall to find it. All you have to do is look at the last election cycle where massive amounts vote fraud took place, even poll workers were arrested and charged for casting multiple votes. Nor does it necessarily take a large percentage of vote fraud to throw an election. Election fraud supporting Democrats have been solidly against voter ID states purging their eligible voter lists of dead people, felons and those who have relocated to other states. Clearly the only possible conclusion is that some of the fraudsters want to be able to cast votes for those people without having to prove that they are the person. Even UN representatives have been shocked to learn how susceptible to fraud many state American election systems are due to a lack of voter ID requirements.
What Democrats like Ronald really want, is the same types of unsecured elections that third world nations and dictatorships employ, so that they can insure that their candidates win by hook or crook. The continue to lie and claim that laws requiring a state issued ID is about voter suppression, when the goal is only to suppress vote fraud. Republicans don’t want to suppress voters, they just want to make sure that only those eligible can vote, and that they only vote once.
Ditto
I could not have said it better,
thank you for opening eyes of the uninformed to realize
what the DEMOCRATS are doing to them.
@Ditto:
Ditto, what I’ve asked Ronald, and he won’t answer, is how does requiring Voter ID discriminate against one party over the other? He has to be assuming that most voter fraud is done by Dimocrats and it would only reduce the number of fraudulent votes the Dims get.
To Ronald, how many votes do you think a ‘dead’ person should be able to cast? How many votes should a non citizen be able to cast?
Redteam
hi,
it’s so easy to identify the libs,
they all think alike, no chance for a fresh new thought to benefit the PEOPLE,
BUT ONLY TO SERVE THEIR OWN INTEREST AND
ANYTHING IS LEGAL TO THEM SO LONG AS IT KEEP THEM IN POWER,
WHAT A DECEPTIVE PARTY, THEY HAVE BECOME,