Obama Lies….Claims “Virtually Every Senate Republican Voted Against Payroll Tax Cut”

@Greg, gosh I hope being a whipping post is your favored position. Because the payroll tax extension vote that the Zero was referring to was S1931, the Temporary Tax Holiday and Government Reduction Act.

This is all the Congressional action on that recently introduced bill from Thomas.

ALL ACTIONS:

11/30/2011:
Introduced in the Senate. Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time.

12/1/2011:
Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 244.

12/1/2011:
Motion to proceed to consideration of measure was deemed to have been made in Senate. (consideration: CR S8139)

12/1/2011:
Motion to proceed to consideration of measure, under the order of 12/1/2011, not having achieved the required 60 votes in the affirmative, was rejected in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 20 – 78. Record Vote Number: 220.

The vote results of that 20 yea/78 nay were linked from Curt’s Most Wanted post from Gateway Pundit above, had you been intellectually curious enough to read, and corresponds to the Senate Congressional records… out of all members in the Senate, only 20 voted to advance the bill for debate/vote/passage… every one of them Republicans.

Sixty Senators… every Dem – all 51 of them – and the remaining 27 Republicans voted *not* to advance the bill.

I have no idea what bill your Maine newspaper link is talking about, since they don’t link any bill number. And apparently research is optional to their staffers. But it sure ain’t about the payroll tax extension, as the Congressional records clearly show.

Obama is lying, and evidently whatever saliva dribbles from his mouth is golden nuggets of truth to you. For shame.

And I congratulate you on your even handed review of the dueling payroll bills, Greg.

But unfortunately, we are going to have to brand pretty much all politicians as liar… both sides of the party. Which is why it’s rather absurd to place yourself as a devotee in a politician’s camp instead of out here, fighting with your fellow citizens. Not the least example of which is giving the fox the keys to the hen house by allowing them to decide what is economic “justice” and “equality”.

As we’ve seen with their penchant for insider trading and the financial benefits, there is one justice for elected ones, and another for citizens. Also their policies attempting to “control” and “regulate” generally result in a free pass… ala bailing out failed banks, housing policies they demanded of the GSEs, etc.

Oddly enough, both conservatives and liberals are highly enraged about the bank bailouts. And if more liberals understood the increasing power of the GSEs in housing over the past 2.5 decades, they’d share that anger as well. Instead of teaming up to limit the power of those doing things with which we both disagree, we’ve got a firefight going on as to how much MORE power to give to these elected idiots.

It’s foolhardy to place the power of moral judgement of fiscal “fairness” into the hands of those so overtly corrupt.

As far as the payroll debate. Everyone agrees it needs to be paid for. Because what is not being taken in via payroll taxes to feed the Congressional piggy bank – the SS Trust Fund – they are absconding from general funds.

So the Dems want to impose a 3.5% tax increase on those make $1 mil gross… not the same as “taxable income”, which is the impression you are under. The bill that 20 GOP voted to advance while 51 Dems and 27 GOP voted NOT to advance was sponsored by NV’s Dean Heller. The summary is below:

Temporary Tax Holiday and Government Reduction Act – Amends the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 to extend through 2012 the 2% reduction in employment and self-employment tax rates.

Amends the Internal Revenue Codeto impose a 100% tax on excess unemployment compensation, as defined by this Act, received by certain high-income taxpayers.

Amends the Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 to render ineligible for the supplemental nutrition assistance program (SNAP), formerly food stamps, any household in which a member receives income or assets with a fair market value of at least $1 million.

Amends title XVIII (Medicare) of the Social Security Act to: (1) increase Medicare Part B and D premiums for Medicare beneficiaries with adjusted gross incomes over $750,000, and (2) extend through 2022 the freeze on the inflation adjustment to the income threshold for the Medicare premium subsidy eligibility.

Requires the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Director of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to determine the number of full-time employees employed in each federal agency. Prohibits a head of a federal agency from hiring more than 1 employee for every 3 full-time employees who leave employment in such agency until OMB and OPM make a determination that the number of full-time federal employees is 10% less than the initial level determined by OMB and OPM.

Extends the freeze on the pay of federal employees through 2015. Provides that such extended pay freeze applies to legislative branch employees, including Members of Congress.

Amends the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985 to reduce levels of discretionary spending for FY2013-FY2021.

Buffett Rule Act of 2011 – Amends the Internal Revenue Code to allow taxpayers to donate an amount (not less than $1), in addition to any tax owed, which shall be deposited in the general fund of the Treasury and transferred to an account used to reduce the public debt.

I’m not sure any anyone with liberal inclinations can read this and say that there are no solutions offered, cuts made, or increased taxes suggested. As far as I can see, many (if not most) of these are a viable way to pay go the payroll reductions.

And what in that list bothers you?

@maximilian, you’re late to the party, and slow on the mental upload of data.

See comments #5, #6 and #15. More than one bill. I’ll ask you the same question I asked Greg… what in Senate Bill 1931 do you find objectionable?

And would you also agree that increasing taxes on the $1 million *gross* (not net, taxable income) on individuals and small business does not constitute “a millionaire”?

Obama did not lie on the vote for S1917. He lied by omission… by not letting those as uncurious as you know that there was more than one bill about the payroll tax extension voted on that same day.