…he has essentially denounced as evil and misguided, though in a lukewarm fashion, decades of American policy in the Middle East. Second, he has delegitimized Israel, at least within the context of its current borders. Third, he has by implication suggested that the rule of many of his allies is undemocratic and in consequence, declared himself King of Arabia. He has assumed ultimate responsibility for the political development of the region now. He’s declared it broken. Now he owns it.
@blast: Mata is correct when she states you have a glaringly obvious reading comprehension problem.
Let me repeat once again, when you stated:
You are claiming that due to the treaty, Morocco took no hostile action against us.
You reinforced your point later when you said:
Refer to my post #299 in which I lay out the fact that Morocco’s Sultan ORDERED the capture of the American ship.
Additionally, if it were merely pirates that absconded that ship, and not backed by the state of Morocco, why then did the treaty signed in 1786 end all piracy by Moroccon pirates against the United States?
Maybe you ought to think before you type, blast for brains.
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anticsrocks, yey, you see them coming before they start typing,
they all have that certain TANGENTE TO THE LEFT, THEY EAT THEIR BEANS AND COME HERE ALL GAZED UP.
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: LOL!! I love it beezy!! “all gazed up!”
Priceless! Thank you dear, for my laugh for the evening. Sitting here in this hospital, it was nice to read your post and get my chuckle for the night.
anticsrocks you made the 3oo, you must be the only one to achieve that 300,
wow I had not focus on it, congratulation, this is a biggy, and think that I could have win it,
lol.. darn non pas moi , you seek the high notes all the time,
well you deserve this one, I would have BLAST BLAST IF HE WOULD HAVE TAKEN IT.
anticsrocks, how long you have left in there?
CURT, HI, can you send a bottle of champagne on me for having won the 300 post to anticsrocks/
Ride A Pale Horse, would you send a cyber champagne bottle too to anticsrocks
marked 300 on it,?
CURT a real bootle of champagne and a cyber one with 300 on it.
Contrary to the running off at the mouth of some around here, there is no such thing as budgetary commitments for “open ended” aid to Israel. That type of forever guarantee characterization is reserved for death and taxes.
There was a 10 year security agreement in 2007 with a suggested increase that I noted was from $3 bil to $3.1 bil annually in one of the ga’zillion links in my comments above (aka “talking points” to some). Each year this aid is presented in the POTUS budget as part of int’l affairs, and subject to Congressional approval…. assuming they’ll ever do a budget again.
That security agreement extends only until 2017 and has been approved every year by the Dem held Congressional majority. It has been presented by a President Obama this year to a GOP House and Dem Senate. Again, if they ever get around to doing a budget. Can’t even get these guys to vote on two different ones and force reconciliation.
Nothing beyond that time frame exists, and would have to be renewed with negotiations by current leadership of both countries..
Thus it is impossible – as blast continues to falsely suggest in order to hide his inconsistency – for Israel’s, or any other country’s, foreign aid to be considered “open ended”. Only the most uninformed about our appropriations process could suggest such a naive lie. In fact, for someone that wants a deadline, here’s your heads up…. there’s one every year.
At the whim of the POTUS or Congress, that aid amount can decrease, be eliminated, or escalate with events on the ground and in the region. It’s called defunding.
My suggestion to blast is that he go right ahead and gaze into his crystal ball for his “exit strategy. If nothing else, it’ll keep him and his voices busy.
But as far as I’m concerned, when he’s done gazing, he can
… talk to the hand. Frankly listening to someone give me their tarot card reading on the future status of world events – which is about as bright an idea as announcing to the enemy when you’re going to pick up your toys and leave the battlefield – isn’t worth a hill of beans, let alone bandwidth.
@ilovebeeswarzone: Hopefully I get out tomorrow (Wednesday) and get to go home to my family. My two year old daughter is a Daddy’s girl and I hear she is bouncing off the walls missing me.
Thanks for the bottle of booze!!
Bees… had me on the floor with the “gas” remark! LOL
@rocks in the head
You are either stupid or just an idiot. You are talking up 1801 and the Barbary War. Show me one instance where the United States was at war with Morocco after the Treaty of 1786/7.
YOU CAN’T!
Obviously you cannot read. I stated the historical facts. Morocco recognized the US in 1777. I agreed with you that the Moroccan pirates seized an American ship in 1784. You claim it was under orders from the Sultan, I dispute that, but in the scheme of your 1801 thesis that you have been posting CONSTANTLY you are 100% WRONG. America was at peace with Morocco in 1801. I asked for you to state the ships and battles, ANY battle between Moroccans and the United States post Treaty and you have supplied NOTHING. And for your stupid information… recognition is not the same as having a Treaty so don’t confuse my statements about 1777 and 1786… especially since I have spoon fed you the information like a 4th grader.
Now go look it up and find out you are wrong. Be sure to come back and set the record straight and also lets your minion beez know the truth too. That poor soul is having a hard time keeping up.
@ mata
LOL. 65 years on the dole and additional pre planned payments is not perpetual? LOL! That predates Medicare by… ummm… 17 years?
The fact that you’ve run off at the mouth for 20 some odd years now does not guarantee you will run off at the mouth for another 20, blast. ‘nuther tangent and mischaracterization to hide the fact that there is only a security agreement until 2017 that is up for approval, or disapproval, every year.
I suggest if you have a problem with each annual deadline that exists for what is not “open ended” aid… save in your mind… you write your Congressman. I also suggest you pick up a civics book first and read up on how our government works. Might keep you from further embarrassing yourself.
Other than that, it seems most of the legislative world, along with the military world, agrees with me that Israel is a valued asset. Which is why they approve it each year in varying amounts.
300+ comments….not a bad open thread =)
@blast for brains: I believe my post #301 lays it out quite nicely. The fact that you claim one thing and argue another when proven wrong isn’t my problem blast for brains, its yours.
Each and every time Mata or myself knock your idiotic arguments out from under you, then all you do is try and obfuscate the issue.
Nan showed you that we were at war with the Barbary states, of which Morocco was a member. I will admit that they changed their tune awfully quickly upon the actions of Commodore Preble. From the papers of President Thomas Jefferson:
From Columbia University, a source that I am sure that even a lefty drone like yourself can recognize:
What’s that?? Columbia University and a magazine published by a Saudi run oil company quoting President Thomas Jefferson BOTH state that the Sultan Sidi Muhammad ordered the attack on American ships! However you doubt it, and since you must be a higher authority than Columbia University and Saudi Aramco World and President Jefferson I guess they are wrong, huh?
So it looks like you are the one with egg on your face. Oh, and I would be careful if I were you on making ad hominem attacks on beezy. She has a wit and sense of compassion you just wouldn’t understand.
Just to wrap up, you have called me, on this thread – stupid, dumb and a 4th grader. LOL looks like you are the one that isn’t smarter than a 4th grader, even a 4th grader admits when they are wrong. Too bad you can’t, blast for brains.
You ARE entertaining, tho. I will give you that, kinda like a blind mouse in a maze – all sorts of action, but not much getting done.
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CURT, thank you, and I owe you,
A 6 minute video by British atheist, Pat Condell, about Muslims, Hamas, Jews, Israel and real hatred.
Should be a featured post IMHO.