Trump and Pro-Athletes Spar Over Flag, National Anthem, White House Visit; Lefties Scream Racism

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Twitter has been afire today with the controversy about Stephen Curry going to the White House and reactions to President Trump’s speech in Alabama.

During President Trump’s speech at a rally for Luther Strange (R-AL), he addressed the growing trend among NFL players to kneel disrespectfully during the national anthem.  Trump asked, ““Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say ‘get that son of a b***h off the field right now – he’s fired’?”.

Most people hearing or reading this comment recognize that the president is referring to the disrespectful kneeling “protest” that involves football (and other sports) players deliberately taking a knee during the national anthem.

The Warriors’ Stephen Curry hesitated when asked about whether he would attend the White House celebration, and Trump responded by rescinding the invitation to Curry.

The left, as always, hears RAAACISM not patriotism in the president’s comments.  They are subsequently completely unhinged in their response to their own fevered and deliberate misinterpretation of Trump’s comments.

Then-49er Colin Kaepernick who started this disturbing trend in response to the short-lived Black Lives Matter explained his rationale last year to NFL Media.

NFL reports:

“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,” Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. “To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”

The resulting controversy was explosive, and Kaepernick has had trouble finding a new team since leaving the 49ers.

Since then, more and more players have started kneeling for the anthem, including at least one white player.

The president’s comments, reflective of a lot of Americans’ thoughts on the issue, were received as racist apparently because the majority of NFL players who take a knee during the anthem are black or brown.  Therefore, according to leftist logic, any criticism of these players’ actions is not about the players’ actions at all; it has to be—can only be—about their race.

The NFL issued the following statement:

Just so we are all clear: it is not disrespectful or divisive to take a knee during the national anthem, but it is disrespectful and divisive to speak out against it.

Ah yes, because Trump never attacks white people. Or something.

https://twitter.com/Chet_Cannon/status/911645285050458114

Washington Redskins’ linebacker Zach Brown makes a potentially arguable point, that football has nothing to do with the President.

For the point to stand, however, it has to work both ways.  Football is no place for political protests, either.

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@rich wheeler: 287

awarded Navy Commendation Medal with combat “V’ for valor

RW, how many men in your company got that same medal?

Not gonna answer?

@rich wheeler: 300

Just read your #299 Believe people are influenced positively or negatively by family and those they have serious contact with. Certainly no bearing on skin color

Are you implying I related it to skin color? Point it out

@rich wheeler:

Mueller citation reads personally led squad across fire swept terrain to recover mortally wounded Marine

What was he supposed to do? Was he a squad leader or not? If an auto mechanic repairs an auto, does he deserve a medal of valor? I guess you don’t want to attempt an answer as to what all McCain’s medals that he got while doing his recordings at the Hanoi Hilton were for? Mayber new artist of year? Album of year? Least influential recording of year? you have any ideas?

@Redteam: Thought you were referring to Bronze Star which I estimated 1/100—Navy Comm with combat “V” one notch down—my estimate 1/60

#302–NO

What Mueller did was heroic–not all behave bravely under enemy fire

Re Mac–our opinions differ—you haven’t shown me where DT called him songbird

RE DT says he’s going to listen to players concerns—looks like he was influenced by The Kardashians/Celeb Apprentice

@rich wheeler:

What do you think of Oberon as a head coach

Don’t really know much about him, but I know he can’t seem to coach his men on principles of patriotism or honor, but then maybe he doesn’t see that as his job. I believe if I were a head coach, I would start out by trying to coach my team into being honorable persons. From what I’ve heard (but don’t know) he really wanted to attend the ceremony at the White House. He saw it as a well deserved and a true honor to be greeted by the President of the United States for an accomplishment few ever get and was very disappointed that his men(and I use that term loosely) denied him. I doubt that he respects those players morality. I personally see them as a bunch of whiny immature children. None of which would do what you did in Vietnam. NONE.

@rich wheeler: :

I know you don’t believe half the stuff you post—done for effect– I get it—most on here take themselves much too seriously—your comedic relief is much appreciated.

LOL, yeah, but I will bet that you know which half I believe. Nothing wrong with using ‘words’ for effect, that’s what they’re for. Too bad you didn’t get your money’s worth (but I’ll keep helping you with trying to get your refund). It’s hot as hell here in Louisiana, so when you go down to the watering hole today, have an extra cool one for me.

@Redteam: Oberon is LSU head coach.
Philly coach did want to go.

Trump may yet turn the corner on acting Presidential and working for all the people==I CAN DREAM

78 and clear here—I’ll have one for you—don’t have to ask an Irishman twice
Fact is “God created alcohol so Irish wouldn’t rule the world” I’m an example oh HIS success.

@rich wheeler:

Cautionary note You make many statements as if based on facts.

If based on fact I usually supply a link to source, but some is just persuasive argument. As for example you frequently referring to McCain as a hero, when you actually know he’s one of the furtherest persons from that. I really wish he had been, flying from the ship that I had lived on for over 3 years. Well, at least until he caused the fire that caused him to be moved to a different ship.

@rich wheeler:

What Mueller did was heroic–not all behave bravely under enemy fir

So did all the men that went with him get the same award? or did he just get it because he was an officer. Can the enlisted men be brave also? Sounds as if he was ‘doing his job’. How many of your men got the V for valor that you did? I’m just saying that medals are sometimes given out as ‘atta boys’ instead of for heroism.

@Redteam: I hold all servicemen in high regard, especially those who were decorated. It even earns them quite a bit of slack with me in regards to their subsequent actions. None of this, however, explains why Mueller became the liberal’s bitch.

@rich wheeler:

Oberon is LSU head coach.

Actually he’s Orgeron or better known as Coach Eaux pronounced as O. Eagles is Pederson, I thought that’s who you were asking about. they both have er and on in them. And I don’t keep up with pro football, as I said, if you had asked, I would have said the Patriots won this year. Coach Eaux, he’s a very good inspirational person, the players love him, but I don’t know if that’s enough. LSU will get great players, they always do, but can’t always get what they need out of them. Don’t know if that’s solely the coach. I don’t expect LSU to have an outstanding team this year. Probably win 8, they have the No. 1 toughest schedule in college football this year. Look at who they have to play.

Regardless of what I say, I very much respect men that will actually volunteer to fight for the freedom of our country. Actually ‘going into combat’ is not necessary, just volunteering ‘in case you have to go’ is good enough. I believe it is one of the highest honors that a person can do for the right and freedom to live in this country. I have said many times that the US Navy accepting me to be a member of that service is one of the greatest privileges I have ever had. I wanted to wear that uniform very much and they allowed me that privilege. I know you feel that way about the US Marine Corps. The medals were/are just icing on the cake.

@rich wheeler:

Trump may yet turn the corner on acting Presidential

acting presidential? He is certainly the most presidential since Ronald Reagan. GHWB and GWB were okay, Clinton and Obama clearly despised the military services. Trump never fails to salute the Marines around the White House and Helicopter, for example and how many times did Obama stand for 90 minutes and shake the hand of every Annapolis grad. Obama never saluted the Marines. He treated them like personal servants.

@Deplorable Me:

None of this, however, explains why Mueller became the liberal’s bitch.

You are correct. What I think is: Some members of government, especially the intelligence services, are recruited into the ‘Deep State’ with the overall objective of controlling the government. Comey didn’t get his invitation, I think Mueller probably did. Once they get inducted, they are neutral in actual objectives, but have to play roles to accomplish their real goals. The Deep State is what created Obama. He’s not a real person, more of a true Manchurian Candidate. I don’t think any serious thinker can really question their real beliefs on that, though I think many will/would deny it if asked, for fear of being ‘labeled’.. How else can anyone explain Michael Lavaughan Robinson acting as First Lady?

@Redteam: Agree medals don’t mean much–appreciate when those who do receive them give credit to those who assisted.
Obama did salute Marine guards—Once he forgot while boarding–pilot said something and he came back to shake hands with the Marine. I doubt if he made that mistake again.
Looking forward to college football—as always N.D will compete–relatively easy sched–should win 9–ND as proud of their grad rate and success of their players as they are of their W’s

@rich wheeler:

ND as proud of their grad rate and success of their players as they are of their W’s

I used to would have agreed with you, but now I think liberalism has taken over and they have lost the pride in their school about as much as they have become anti-American. Never thought that would happen there, but………

@Redteam: As Ronnie would say “there you go again” RT——-Notre Dame anti American??–have you heard the praise DT has bestowed on them?
There isn’t a school in this country with more pride than The Fighting Irish—2-0 against LSU in last 2—How’s their pride?

@rich wheeler: @rich wheeler: Sorry you missed it, but I saw an anti-American protest by ND students not too long ago. Don’t remember when, and maybe they weren’t ‘representative’ of ND students. But I saw what I saw. Surely you remember this:

Pence, Notre Dame grads’ protest taught us all a lesson – Post-Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/opinion/ct-ptb-davich-notre-dame-grads-st-0524-20170523-story.html
May 23, 2017 … Notre Dame graduates walk out of Notre Dame Stadium in protest as Vice … “Last I knew, students at Notre Dame pay a tuition… a very high …

@Richard Wheeler: It’s strange you had no response to my link of the ND wimps walking out. Really respectful. Something Americans would be proud of. Right?

@Redteam: Pence had no problem with it. Why should you or I.? DT loves ND and so does Indianan Pence–he’d better lol
Surely you’d agree the right to peacefully protest is one of our country’s greatest strengths.
Really looking forward to Tues meeting

Strange you had no response to LSU 0-2 vs Fighting Irish–how’s their pride holding up?

@rich wheeler:

Pence had no problem with it. Why should you

I’m not sure I said I had a problem with it. Just pointing out anti-American behavior. Why would any patriotic American have a problem with whiny anti-Americans? I’m quite sure they came directly from their ‘safe rooms’ to the ceremony and were anxious to get back.

Surely you’d agree the right to peacefully protest is one of our country’s greatest strength

yes it is, except that I don’t think people should protest the flag, the very symbol of that right to have freedoms that no one else has. Do you think that the ND walkout students brought honor to the university? It would make me tend to believe that it is just the quality of the people that go there.

Really looking forward to Tues meeting

yes, I am also. I heard a liberal say today ” I’d rather be killed by a bomb than to have to thank Trump for preventing me from being killed by a bomb”. You share that feeling? He sure put gay Trudeau in his place today, called him dishonorable. :::Which he is.

Strange you had no response to LSU 0-2 vs Fighting Irish–how’s their pride holding up?

what do you think my response should be? Notre Dame is not a ‘rivalry’ of LSU, LSU always plays a tough schedule and ND is usually a challenge to anyone they play. Back in the early 1950’s the Notre Dame game was on tv every weekend, during the season and I never missed a game. That’s why it bothers me a little to find that they are going toward anti Americanism. Is it okay with you if their football players take a knee during the anthem?

@Redteam: A lot of people don’t like Veep Pence. Would you be anti American because you didn’t like a certain elected Veep or Potus? I think not You’re living in America not Russia or China—freedom to protest anything you want including the Flag–then you can protest against the protestors–love it.’

Trudeau gay?? Don’t tell his beautiful wife—you accuse a lot of straight people of being gay–why is that?

Why is Trudeau dishonorable–he promotes the interests of Canada–Macron interests of France–Trump U.S.–Merkel Germany so on would you expect otherwise?

Notre Dame players won’t be Kneeling at anthem. lol

BTW My favorite bumper sticker I still see is “Vote Trump Nobody Needs To Know.”
I sincerely wish him well Tues As Joe said This is f-ing huge.

@rich wheeler:

Notre Dame players won’t be Kneeling at anthem. lol

I believe that also. So if those people really didn’t like Pence, why did they go to his speech? Did they feel like it was more important to offend their classmates than to be civilized and respect their rights to sit there and have someone give a speech praising them.. I don’t protest protestors, I feel like it helps the situation for people to see what the standards of liberals and socialists are. Say you go to a ceremony with your best friend and when they play the national anthem, you stand and face the flag and put your hand over your heart and your friend kneels down and raises a fist in a black power salute. Does your admiration for him go up? or down? I’m assuming you stand and face the flag with your hand over your heart. Right? Do they have the ‘right’ to do that? Absolutely, anyone can be as large a POS as they desire. Why is Trudeau dishonorable? Are you saying you really don’t know the answer to that question? So you didn’t hear any details of the G-? meeting? And what Trudeau said AFTER Trump had left? Wouldn’t say anything to him, had to wait til after he left to make his comments. Really honorable, well, if you like liberals. I guess it would be.

@rich wheeler:

BTW My favorite bumper sticker I still see is “Vote Trump Nobody Needs To Know.”

And for good reason, I’m sure you secretly voted for him, after all, no one has to know..

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