Schumer: I Will Demand Vote In Senate Trial For My Witnesses

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Come on, manChuck Schumer’s been in Congress long enough to know what being in the minority means, especially because Schumer helped engineer the defenestration of minority rights in the Senate. Still, Schumer still thinks he can split the Republican majority and get Mitch McConnell to do what his own Democratic colleagues in the House refused to do — go to court to get four Trump administration officials to testify.



“Many of my Republican colleagues,” Schumer told MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, “will be in a real dilemma, because their constituents will want them to do that.” Er … has Schumer seen how impeachment has been polling, especially among Republican “constituents”?

“I am allowed, even though 51 votes governs, I am allowed to ask for votes. I will ask during the impeachment proceeding for a vote on whether Mulvaney should testify, and whether Bolton should testify,” the New York Democrat said in an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes.

“Many of my Republican colleagues will be in a real dilemma because their constituents will want them to do that, they will have no good reason not to, and they can well be held accountable for doing that.” …

“Asking for witnesses, something so reasonable and supported by 64% of Republicans is — I expect we will get a bunch of Republicans to vote with us on these requests, I do, I do.”

Would that be 64% of all Republicans, or only 64% of the 10% that support impeachment? How about 64% of the handful that think impeachment is actually a high priority for Congress, or themselves? Senate Republicans know what their constituents think, and it’s not Gee you should follow Chuck Schumer’s leadership.

This is all bluster and no substance. Schumer’s stuck with an incomplete impeachment that has no chance of selling in the Senate, not even to all of the Senate Democrats. Republicans have closed ranks in large part because of the rushed and bitterly partisan process on display in the House Intelligence Committee hearings, and last week’s stunt by Jerrold Nadler in Judiciary didn’t help matters either.

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December 10, 2019 – Trump pays $2 million in damages ordered by judge over misuse of charity funds, according to NY attorney general

Our Man in the White House… What a guy!

President Trump has paid $2 million in court-ordered damages for misusing funds in a tax-exempt charity he controlled, the New York attorney general said Tuesday.

The payment was ordered last month by a New York state judge in an extraordinary rebuke to a sitting president. Trump had been sued in 2018 by the New York attorney general, who alleged the president had illegally used funds from the Donald J. Trump Foundation to buy portraits of himself, pay off his businesses’ legal obligations and help his 2016 campaign.

The money was split among eight charities, according to a statement from New York Attorney General Letitia James (D). The charities were the Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, according to the statement.

In addition, Trump agreed to distribute the remaining $1.8 million left in the Donald J. Trump Foundation to the same eight charities. In all, each charity received $476,140.41.

“Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities,” James said in the statement. “My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.”

In a statement, attorneys for Trump said: “The legacy of the Trump Foundation — which gave away many millions to those in need at virtually no cost — is secure.” They did not answer a reporter’s query about whether Trump intended to count the court-ordered $2 million payment on his taxes as a charitable deduction.

The payments bring an end to the life of the Trump Foundation, which Trump started in 1987 to give away proceeds from his book “the Art of the Deal.” It went nearly dormant during Trump’s lean years in the 1990s.

In the 2000s, Trump began to use the charity in ways that benefited himself or his businesses, according to the attorney general’s lawsuit. He used the charity’s cash to buy paintings of himself and sports memorabilia and to pay $258,000 in legal settlements for his for-profit clubs.

Charity leaders are barred from using their nonprofits’ money for personal benefit.

Trump also used the charity to boost political campaigns — first, Pamela Bondi’s Florida attorney general campaign, and then his own 2016 campaign. Trump gave away Trump Foundation checks onstage at rallies, despite strict rules barring nonprofit charities from participating in political campaigns.

The New York attorney general’s suit drew heavily on reporting by The Washington Post during the 2016 election.

Now, the foundation will be shuttered. The consequences of this case will linger for Trump. Under the terms of the settlement, he has agreed to special supervision if he ever returns to charity work in New York.

The entire article. It’s difficult to get to the link at present, most likely owing to the number of people trying to read it.

From Christianity Today, December 19, 2019 – Trump Should Be Removed from Office

In our founding documents, Billy Graham explains that Christianity Today will help evangelical Christians interpret the news in a manner that reflects their faith. The impeachment of Donald Trump is a significant event in the story of our republic. It requires comment.

The typical CT approach is to stay above the fray and allow Christians with different political convictions to make their arguments in the public square, to encourage all to pursue justice according to their convictions and treat their political opposition as charitably as possible. We want CT to be a place that welcomes Christians from across the political spectrum, and reminds everyone that politics is not the end and purpose of our being. We take pride in the fact, for instance, that politics does not dominate our homepage.

That said, we do feel it necessary from time to time to make our own opinions on political matters clear—always, as Graham encouraged us, doing so with both conviction and love. We love and pray for our president, as we love and pray for leaders (as well as ordinary citizens) on both sides of the political aisle.

Let’s grant this to the president: The Democrats have had it out for him from day one, and therefore nearly everything they do is under a cloud of partisan suspicion. This has led many to suspect not only motives but facts in these recent impeachment hearings. And, no, Mr. Trump did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story in the House hearings on impeachment.

But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.

The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.

Trump’s evangelical supporters have pointed to his Supreme Court nominees, his defense of religious liberty, and his stewardship of the economy, among other things, as achievements that justify their support of the president. We believe the impeachment hearings have made it absolutely clear, in a way the Mueller investigation did not, that President Trump has abused his authority for personal gain and betrayed his constitutional oath. The impeachment hearings have illuminated the president’s moral deficiencies for all to see. This damages the institution of the presidency, damages the reputation of our country, and damages both the spirit and the future of our people. None of the president’s positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character.

This concern for the character of our national leader is not new in CT. In 1998, we wrote this:

The President’s failure to tell the truth—even when cornered—rips at the fabric of the nation. This is not a private affair. For above all, social intercourse is built on a presumption of trust: trust that the milk your grocer sells you is wholesome and pure; trust that the money you put in your bank can be taken out of the bank; trust that your babysitter, firefighters, clergy, and ambulance drivers will all do their best. And while politicians are notorious for breaking campaign promises, while in office they have a fundamental obligation to uphold our trust in them and to live by the law.

And this:

Unsavory dealings and immoral acts by the President and those close to him have rendered this administration morally unable to lead.

Unfortunately, the words that we applied to Mr. Clinton 20 years ago apply almost perfectly to our current president. Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election—that is a matter of prudential judgment. That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments.

To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr. Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this: Remember who you are and whom you serve. Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump’s immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency. If we don’t reverse course now, will anyone take anything we say about justice and righteousness with any seriousness for decades to come? Can we say with a straight face that abortion is a great evil that cannot be tolerated and, with the same straight face, say that the bent and broken character of our nation’s leader doesn’t really matter in the end?

We have reserved judgment on Mr. Trump for years now. Some have criticized us for our reserve. But when it comes to condemning the behavior of another, patient charity must come first. So we have done our best to give evangelical Trump supporters their due, to try to understand their point of view, to see the prudential nature of so many political decisions they have made regarding Mr. Trump. To use an old cliché, it’s time to call a spade a spade, to say that no matter how many hands we win in this political poker game, we are playing with a stacked deck of gross immorality and ethical incompetence. And just when we think it’s time to push all our chips to the center of the table, that’s when the whole game will come crashing down. It will crash down on the reputation of evangelical religion and on the world’s understanding of the gospel. And it will come crashing down on a nation of men and women whose welfare is also our concern.

@Greg:

Democrats have had the integrity to call Trump out on his egregious misconduct in office, 

so egregious that they had to make it up. So, what’s with Pelosi and her little impeachment? There was once a dire necessity… now, not so much? You people need “Full of Shit” signs hanging around your necks.

@Greg:

Democrats have had the integrity to call Trump out on his egregious misconduct in office, knowing full well it wouldn’t be the best political move and that McConnell would do Trump’s bidding in the Senate.

How much integrity does it take to LIE? Pelosi lied about opposing impeachment, Schiff lied and lied and lied and lied; he lied about meeting and coordinating with the “whistle blower”, he lied about what was in Trump’s call and he lied every time he opened his mouth about impeachable conduct. Nadler repeated Schiff’s lies. They all lied about quid pro quo and bribery. I am not surprised at all that you view this as “integrity”. For future reference, lying, suppressing exculpatory evidence, bias, prejudice and disregard for the Constitution is not “integrity”, yet that was the outstanding characteristics of the Democrats’ impeachment hoax.

The Democrats’ idea of integrity and a “fair trail”? James Clyburn said Trump should get a “fair trial, then hang him.”. THERE’S your “integrity”.

Pelosi puts the nation through months of this fake impeachment trash, then fears sending the product of her duplicitous, lying, corrupt acts to the Senate, where she and her fellow liars no longer can suppress the truth and facts… THERE’S your “integrity”.

And the ONLY reason Democrats have brought forth impeachment is because they are desperate to win in 2020, have no candidates, no accomplishments, nothing the voters want and need to gin up more fake accusations to try and damage Trump. He’s been spied on and investigated for over 4 years and you can’t find ANYTHING to hurt him with, so all you have is fake accusations and the abuse of your majority in the House.

@Deplorable Me: It’s funny how Greg and his lot sound worse than any Birther ever did.

At least the birthers, including Trump, moved on when he released his record (shoddy as it was).

The level of gaslighting by these morons is insane.

@Nathan Blue: Also, at least the birthers were based on some evidence. Obama hid all his past and his actual birthplace was clouded in purposeful obscurity. Of course, Democrats never cared if Obama was Constitutionally qualified to be President; he is liberal and offering free stuff.

Democrats only need a viable excuse to hate.

December 20, 2019 – Calling Trump ‘Morally Lost,’ ‘Christianity Today’ Editor Calls For Impeachment

Regarding the accompanying image, the shoe most definitely does not fit.

The Trumper’s predictable response to the article:

DonaldTrump@realDonaldTrump

A far left magazine, or very “progressive,” as some would call it, which has been doing poorly and hasn’t been involved with the Billy Graham family for many years, Christianity Today, knows nothing about reading a perfect transcript of a routine phone call and would rather…..

….have a Radical Left nonbeliever, who wants to take your religion & your guns, than Donald Trump as your President. No President has done more for the Evangelical community, and it’s not even close. You’ll not get anything from those Dems on stage. I won’t be reading ET again!

4:12 AM – 20 Dec 2019

Sadly, Franklin Graham has joined Trump in his slam of his father Billy’s magazine. This is what Trump does to people, a little bit at a time. If the water is too hot at the start, the frog jumps out of the pan.

@Nathan Blue, #55:

The level of gaslighting by these morons is insane.

Ah, yes… Trump’s predictable “I’m rubber, you’re glue” response. It impresses the hell out of the other kids.

@Greg: Pelosi proves her impeachment is nothing but politics. No crimes, no necessity, just political. Impeachment for political purposes. That’s the Democrats.

Scum.

@Greg: #57 Is your article from one magazine suppose to cause a tent revival moment? Where Nancy Pelosi with her prop crutches are tossed aside as Schiff heals her and she dances to the Senate with the articles ?
Hallelujah pass the collection plate for the DNC.

@Deplorable Me, #59:

Why are republicans so terrified of letting the public hear testimony from witnesses who would prove them right that they’d break their Affirmation Oaths to prevent it?

@kitt, #60:

The article takes the position that sincere Christians should think about just who and what they’re endorsing and enabling. The ends justify the means has never been a Christian principle.

This isn’t about the DNC. It’s about Trump. If Trump were removed, the president would be Mike Pence, not Hillary Clinton.

@Greg: So they should endorse baby killers, people who give young boys castration drugs, and not believe in forgiveness because of 1 author in 1 magazine. Do you know there are lifelong Catholics who believe the Pope is a heretic? They remain Catholics attend church but reject a flawed man.
Your partys weird attempts to separate Trump from his voters when they have nothing to offer but death taxes and empty promises, is in vain.
Why are republicans so terrified of letting the public hear testimony from witnesses who would prove them right that they’d break their Affirmation Oaths to prevent it they will hear it when the House brings it.

@kitt, #63:

Your partys weird attempts to separate Trump from his voters when they have nothing to offer but death taxes and empty promises, is in vain.

The article in Christianity Today wasn’t put out by the Democratic Party. Nor is Christianity Today a far left or very progressive publication. That would just be another of Trump’s reflexive lies.

Trump lies about any person or institution that crosses him. He swims in a sea of lies. His behavior is doing enormous damage that will continue long after we’re rid of him. He’s about to lead half of the Senate to break an oath they’ll take before God to provide impartial justice. They may find ways rationalize what they do, but that won’t change what it is.

@Greg:

The article in Christianity Today wasn’t put out by the Democratic Party.

Im sure you are a subscriber and just ran across it while praying.
You put it forward you and your silly media. Even the fact that Billys own son denounces the author and his opinion.
You and your media are idiots to think anyone but the author himself GAF what he thinks. Take that sheep shit mentality to MSNBC s chat.
Write to your House representative and demand they do their sole part of the procedures of impeachments.
He is about to dismiss the case for lack of evidence as any court would do.
Schiff, Pelosi and Nadlers fault.

From The Washington Examiner, December 20, 2019 – ‘Factually inaccurate’: Christianity Today editor refutes Trump claim it’s ‘far left’

Christianity Today has an estimated readership of 260,000. I suppose Trump can safely blow them off as irrelevant.

@Greg: Sure every single reader totally agrees with the author, they arent Vox or slate readers, fool. Again take it elsewhere, keep to the subject Demands of the minority of the Senate and if they are constitutional.

@Greg:

Why are republicans so terrified of letting the public hear testimony from witnesses who would prove them right that they’d break their Affirmation Oaths to prevent it?

Why do you whiny, crybaby, sore loser liberals always demanding all the rules are always under your control? What did Democrats fear from hearing ANY Republicans witnesses in the House? Why do YOU ignore questions but continue to ask them and expect answers?

The article takes the position that sincere Christians should think about just who and what they’re endorsing and enabling. The ends justify the means has never been a Christian principle.

Well, the choice was between Trump, who actually respects Christians and their beliefs and Hillary, married to a pedophile and serial rapist, who PROTECTED this pedophile and serial rapist, who actually joined him on some of his pedophilic trips with their good friend and supporter Epstein, who is most likely a lesbian herself, who says a woman that supported euthanasia and race control through abortion and called blacks “human weeds”. Trump is Mother Theresa compared to Hillary.

The article in Christianity Today wasn’t put out by the Democratic Party.

Yes, it was.

Trump lies about any person or institution that crosses him.

Democrats lie about, accuse of racism and promote violence against anyone that will not agree with them. So, even though your assertion is false, which is better?

Why is Pelosi so ashamed of her impeachment hoax and fearful of how it will be treated without complete Democrat control of the evidence and procedure? Why does she and every other Democrat fear the truth?

@Deplorable Me, #68:

Why do you whiny, crybaby, sore loser liberals always demanding all the rules are always under your control? What did Democrats fear from hearing ANY Republicans witnesses in the House?

Thirteen Republican witnesses having direct, first-hand knowledge of the situation were subpoenaed by the House but refused to show up to testify, following the orders of the man who’s under investigation. Democrats don’t fear hearing from them. Democrats are still trying to get at least four of them to testify before the Senate. That is a fact. Another fact is that it’s the republicans who are lying and whining about it.

@MOS # 8541: I disagree although you may be right. I think he is just a stupid dolt.

@Greg: Democrats blocked the witnesses Republicans wanted as well as the questions that were asked, even while coaching witnesses not to answer questions. Give it up; you lose.

@Greg: This has been explained to you at nauseum . You really are not ignorant, just stupid or not able to read or not able to comprehend what you read.

@Randy: Greg wants to believe the House of Representatives has limitless power to demand like kings, that a co- equal branch must bow to their whims, with no legal recourse.
They can just whip out this impeachment sword and slay the ONLY representative that is elected for the entire and by the entire electorate. Trump is protecting the office of the President, Mitch is protecting that office and the constitution, they are great and patriotic.
They have their impeachment it has been put in the congressional record as a stain on them all.
He just cant seem to make us think as he does because we are citizens not slaves.

Democrats blocked the witnesses Republicans wanted as well as the questions that were asked, even while coaching witnesses not to answer questions. Give it up; you lose.

They wanted to call Hunter Biden, who has no knowledge of any sort related to Trump’s extortion scheme. He’s just a target of it. Sorry to disappoint. Their bullshit didn’t work. It might work in the Senate, but I wouldn’t count on the outcome. People know what they’re trying to do. They know what Trump did. Because it obvious, and they’re not effing stupid.

@Greg: But it was ok to call professors as witnesses who had no knowledge of any sort related to Trump’s extortion scheme.
The others that had no first hand knowledge.
You got your impeachment be happy, you know what? the constitution says nothing that compels the senate to do anything with the articles not a word, so let Nancy roost on them and her and schumer can cluck their powerless demands like the mindless animals that they are.

@kitt, #75:

But it was ok to call professors as witnesses who had no knowledge of any sort related to Trump’s extortion scheme.

Yes. They testified concerning interpretation of the law. If you recall, one of the initial republican claims was that there was nothing wrong with what Trump is accused of doing, or if there is something wrong with it, it doesn’t rise to the level of an impeachable offence.

@Greg:

They wanted to call Hunter Biden, who has no knowledge of any sort related to Trump’s extortion scheme.

Hunter Biden’s relationship with Burisma totally disproved that Trump had any kind of Biden-like extortion scheme going at all. Hunter himself admitted in an interview (Biden’s aren’t very smart, it seems) that were it not for being the son of the Vice President, he wouldn’t have had the job. Therefore, Schiff didn’t want ANY actual facts tainting their procedures that were based solely on hearsay, opinion, presumption and lies.

It’s crap like this that makes Needless Nancy afraid to turn it over to the non-Democrat controlled Senate.

@Greg: Its hard to recall as the Democrats chucked new charges on a daily basis, each one knocked down, so they would use the defense from 3 accusations before to really sound like they were retarded.
Each new charge had a different defense.
Then they used a news clip, edited to mislead everyone from when Comey was fired over 2 years ago.
Face it my slow dim witted Brother they totally screwed it up, no amount of media pressure on the Senate will change that fact
Trump is exonerated again.

Hunter Biden’s relationship with Burisma totally disproved that Trump had any kind of Biden-like extortion scheme going at all.

That’s loose logic—which is to say there’s no logic there at all.

What should we conclude from the fact that Rick Perry and Rudy Guiliani were lobbying the Poroshenko government on behalf of republican party donors to change board members at NaftoGaz before Poroshenko was unseated by Zelensky? Guiliani’s little buddies Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, both currently under indictment, were part of that scheme. It was only after that effort fell through that they hit on the scheme to conjure up a scandal involving Hunter Biden—which as yet has no supporting factual basis at all.

Profit, not politics: Trump allies sought Ukraine gas deal

I was all about money, which is usually at the root of things. The lobbying was on behalf of a circle of wealthy republican donors.

First on CNN: Giuliani’s associates boasted of US government ties, Ukraine gas executive says

An executive of Ukraine’s state-owned oil-and-gas company said two associates of Rudy Giuliani boasted of their ties to Giuliani and the US government when they pitched a plan to change the gas company’s management and remove the then-US ambassador to Ukraine.

Andrew Favorov, a senior executive with Naftogaz, said he met with Giuliani’s associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman during an energy conference in Houston in March. Favorov said it was clear the two men were plotting to pursue natural gas deals in Ukraine to further their own business interests. He said they suggested that their connections to the US government and Giuliani would help them negotiate such deals…

But hey… You believe Trump is draining the swamp. Because he told so. As has been noted many times before, his administration and all its hangers-on have become the swamp. The latter day GOP is all about facilitating and providing cover.

@Greg: Nice try but the subject my dear ADD brother is Schumer making unconstitutional demands in the senate and Nancy holding these articles that were URGENT to national security til her highness is pleased with the Senates actions.

@Greg:

That’s loose logic—which is to say there’s no logic there at all.

So, are you now claiming Hunter didn’t work for Burisma? Where’s the logic in that?

I tell you what is illogical; denying Biden’s videoed admission that he got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired so he would not expose his dope-head son’s function as a shield from investigation.