Addressing thousands at his much heralded “Restoring Courage” rally in Jerusalem on Wednesday evening August 24th, FOX News talk show host Glenn Beck exhorted his audience to immerse themselves in doughtiness and “to stand up for Israel” in the face of the existential siege that the Jewish state finds herself under by the international community.
Speaking from the Southern Wall excavation site in Jerusalem’s old city, Beck, an intrepid supporter of Israel and the Jewish people delivered an ominous portent of geo-political realities. “Today, the world needs courage more than ever. You don’t have to be a prophet to know that things are not going well in the world. The threats are mounting. Darkness is falling”, he intoned.
Speaking of the potentially lethal ramifications of the Arab Spring, he added, “When I saw Tunisia’s and Egypt’s rulers crack and fall and the world called it the Arab Spring, I said: Where could this be going? And behind these revolutions was a familiar force, a force that will place those nations under a new pharaoh. And that force, I said, would come up to the borders of Israel. And so it has. You see evil rear its head in our time. You see the signs again. The swastikas are on display in the street marches. This week they’re holding up signs in Cairo that say: We’re building the gas chambers. They dress their children in suicide belts. They are given the choice, and they choose death.”
Making an oblique reference to the upcoming United Nations General Assembly meeting in September in which a vote will be taken on the creation of an independent Palestinian state, Beck lambasted the world body by saying, “In New York, the so-called leaders of the world talk about abuses of human rights. But what they will do is abuse the very meaning of the phrase ‘human rights.’ Human rights they say. But who will they focus on? Libya? Syria? North Korea? No. They will condemn Israel. Tiny Israel. Democratic Israel. Free Israel. Israel, which values life above all other things.”
Her furthered chided the world body by saying, “When the Fogel family was killed in their sleep the world barely took note. The grand councils of earth condemn Israel. Across the border, Syria slaughters its own citizens. The grand councils are silent.”
Focusing on the vehement acrimony that engulfs Israel by the international community, Beck declared to thunderous applause, “When the world turns its back on Israel and the Jewish people, the world turns its back on the source of all human rights.” Beck, a Mormon, peppered his address with religious references when illustrating Israel’s role in respecting the sanctity of human life since the dawn of time. “Without the Jewish people, humanity would not know that every individual life has dignity, that every life is sacred, that God names every star and knows every soul. That was God’s message to Abraham and Moses. It is the message of the Jewish people to the world, and by their very existence they teach it to us.”
One (of several) favored parts of that speech is:
Post #1 along with the rest of the article says it all so well. But unfortunately there is a large number of Americans who still think that it will take only the implementation of sound fiscal solutions to stop our downward spiral into chaos and anarchy. Its kinda like the chicken and the egg, which came first? The same with fiscal problems, and social problems in our society. If we can’t change some of the current social values and beleifs that have replaced traditional American values, all the money in the world will not help us now. At best that money will only slow the enevitable end. I was glad to see Beck go to to Israel and stand with them. Beck is one of two people, the other one being Palin that have the ability to induce spontaneous eye, ear, and nose bleeds in liberals.
This so-called Arab Spring has caused the Israeli geography to change….for the worse.
Before the Arab Spring Israel was surrounded by water on one side, friendlies on two and an enemy only on one side.
Now it is surrounded by enemies on all sides with even the waters bringing threats.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
And Palin did what to further Alaskan/Israel relationships when she was governor. It is one thing to talk the talk, quite another to walk the walk. And if you haven’t been following the exploding heads on the left who have gone into full blown attack mode against Governor Perry, you haven’t been really paying attention. Now the left is questioning if Perry is too “macho.” I guess because a candidate sees the need to pack heat, especially after the Gabby Gifford shooting, is just too “macho” to be president. Better we elect another metrosexual like the one currently residing in the White House.
As governor, Palin signed a resolution supporting Israel and confirming Alaska’s ties to the Jewish state (Alaska has approximately 6,000 Jews).
Palin always put Alaskan needs first so her Israeli Foreign Ministry planned visit to Israel had to be cancelled due to issues around the Alaska oil pipeline at the same time.
How can anyone possibly take Glenn Beck seriously? The guy might as well be riding a unicycle around stage, balancing with an umbrella.
@Wilson:
Fieldata COBOL had a diagnostic message that I just loved, and I insured that there was a statement to provoke it in every program I wrote or modified in that environment (since its presence or absence did not affect the real world in any way).
[lineno] Statement is vacuous.
@Larry Sheldon:
Of course I could produce them in a lot less time than it took Wilson.
@Nan G:
Wow, Nan! A resolution supporting Israel? Color me impressed. NOT! The pipe line took up so much of her time she could not work four days out to visit Israel? How many times has she visited Isreal since she resigned and turned her officer over to a former lobbyist who was the legal representative for Exxon after the Valdez spill?
“Perry, a devout Christian, who loves the Jewish state, has taken many trips to Israel — more than any other Republican candidate, in fact. While on one of these tours, Perry met Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, co-founder of Shurat HaDin, an Israeli law center.
“I once spoke at a mission that Perry took part in, in Israel,” Darshan-Leitner recently told Commentary’s Alana Goodman. “And he approached me and said, ‘I love what you do. It’s amazing what you do. If you even need help combating Israel’s enemies, I’m here to assist.”
Perry made good on that promise in July, when a cohort of liberal activists boarded a Gaza-bound aid boat with the goal of breaching Israel’s maritime blockade on the Gaza strip (which was being funded by William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn).
Several of the activists aboard the flotilla happened to be Americans, and upon realizing this, Shurat HuDin’s crack lawyers took action, according to Goodman. They charged that the U.S. citizens were in violation of the Neutrality Act, a law that prohibits Americans from participating in hostile acts against allied countries.
“So we approached the Attorney General of the United States to fix it,” Darshan-Leitner told Goodman. “And we also got Gov. Perry to write a letter to [Attorney General] Eric Holder.”
If you are going to talk the talk, you have to be willing to walk the walk. A “resolution” is not walking the walk.
@Wilson:
Maybe he doesn’t want to dress and act like your relatives.
@retire05:
Perry has been to Israel a grand total of three times (circa 1991, 2007, & 2009). Palin has been once ( in 2011).
Big difference? Not really.
Palin backed a resolution supporting Israel. Perry wrote a letter to Eric Holder.
Color me not impressed with your argument in support of Perry over Palin on this issue.
@Wilson:
Your organ grinder must be missing you.
Gary said that Beck and Palin both have that uncanny ability to unhinge liberals. (apparently more than a few on the other side too…) So what in Sam Hades does that have to do with any Palin policy INRE Israel as the Alaskan Governor??
How was it you put it to Ivan the intolerable on another thread, Nan G? “Move the goalposts… much?” LOL
But since the distraction was brought up… apparently as a way to cast Perry as a superior candidate to Palin… Perry has indeed traveled to Israel, as well as China, Mexico, Iraq, Italy, Qatar, France and Sweden in order to drum up export business for the state.
But then again, the top Texas export products are chemicals, computers/electronics/electrical products, machinery, and transportation equipment. Things that may be of import interest to Israel. Kudos to him.
Alaska? 49% of their exports is seafood. The second largest export is minerals at 14%, and oil/gas at 12%. Their primary export partners are Asian countries (mostly Japan), Canada, Mexico, Germany and Belgium.
Considering that Texas manufactures/exports items that Israel may want, and Alaska doesn’t, Palin spending Alaskans’ tax money to travel to Israel as Governor, attempting to drum up trade for products they don’t import, would be as smart as a motor yacht salesman heading to Iowa to sell luxury Bertram vessels.
@retire05: Whoa! I did not say anything about Slick Rick! I know we have butted heads before about Ricky, but believe it or not I do like him to an extent. And may even vote for him if it comes down to the wire. And no I see nothing wrong with him packing a six-shooter at all either, hell even a double-barreled sawed off shotgun loaded with coin shot, with the amount of loons running loose on the streets today. I just like Palin and Beck for their non-political correctness, and straight forward language. Language that has not been proofed and censored by all their handlers like our fearless leaders. And I forgot about Ann Coulter too. That woman should run for prez too. Could you imagine the effect on the liberals. They would have to pass out valium, zannex and ativan by the buckets to the liberals.
@Aye:
Really? A resolution is now just as important as an actual working relationship? Please, spare me the spin.
Perry created the Texas-Israel Exchange when he was Agricultural Commissioner, long before he had any authority as Governor. And Palin did what exactly again? Oh, yeah, issued a “resolution” which is basically meaningless.
And when Obama’s buddies were funding the Gaza flotillas and getting their friends to man those boats, if Palin is such a supporter of Israel, odd that Shurat HuDin didn’t request her intervention, or even the intervention of Michelle Backmann, who is a sitting FEDERAL Congresswoman.
@MataHarley: I was relating that post to how Beck talked on his show about social issues Mata, not for him running for president, and or Palin either. Nor Ann Coulter as well. Only in the social issue context which has made him, Plain and Coulter sworn enemies of the left, and many democrats too. And how he stands up for Israel since they are under attack by the liberal like our own traditional values are in this country. I still don’t know if Palin is even going to run no matter what any body says. I still think that she will not, but would like her too.
Yes Gary… I knew it was an observation that was totally disconnected to political campaigns. What you said is that basically the mere mention of either Palin, or Beck, turns liberals (and some non liberals) into rabid dogs. LOL Thus my comment about relating this to Palin/Alaska/policy was a far away tangent from your original statement.
No clue if Palin will run either. For me, it’s still anyone but Obama, Romney, Huntsman or Paul. But it’s still early. There’s over a year until the polls open.
@Wilson: Just curious sir. Why do you dislike Beck so much? For all I know you could be a republican who does not tolerant “see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil” amongst fellow republicans, or a far left liberal which answers the question immediately. Or just a guy/gal who does not like him for any particular reason. Thanks
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
Or a troll following orders.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
I would like to correct you on something you said on another thread. Rick Perry did NOT join the National Guard. He was a Corp member at Texas A & M and upon graduating, joined the Air Force became a commissioned officer and a C-130 pilot. His father had been a pilot in WWII. Perry was active duty Air Force from 1972 to 1977, when he retired as a Captain.
Hummm… I see the sensitive still stick to their anti-Palin political scud missiles…. LOL No doubt this will be taken wrong and ignored because as I said, yes, I give kudos to Perry for encouraging Texas-Israel trade relations. But I guess I’ll have to repeat the obvious…Texas had something Israel wanted.
What was Alaska supposed to sell to Israel? And had Palin made a trip to Israel for fostering trade, when they have nothing Israel wants (or in the case of minerals/energy, couldn’t get cheaper elsewhere with shipping/location), she would have rightly been accused of being frivolous with the Alaskan taxpayers’ cash for a fun personal vacation.
Comparing Texas-Israel trade with Alaska-Israel non trade is ridiculous. And it was never even part of the original comment by Gary. But it sure proves his point… that just the mere mention of either Beck or Palin get quite a few foaming at the mouth.
@MataHarley: You got it Mata. And to be truthful, I have no idea that Palin, and Perry had been to Israel! Till I read the post here. But that’s partly why I like this site so much. It’s not just all the articles, but some of the tidbits that come out of the related debates.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
Unless I have him confused with someone else, Wilson is a foaming at the mouth moonbat.
#17 Why do you dislike Beck so much?
Because he fosters conspiracy theory and exploits ignorance, fear, and paranoia for a living. I think he has made the fault lines running through America much worse.
@retire05: Stand corrected Retire. But my point was to demonstrate to the person as to why Perry did not fly combat missions in Vietnam. I was not looking at Perrys choice to joing the AF as an excuse. The war for all practical purposes was over. Kaput! Everyone knew it at the time as well too. The NG was a total different animal back in that day. It was looked upon and rightly so as a place for for men to do their time with-out the worry of fighting in combat. We referred to them as “weekend end warriors”. They went to an hour meeting one time a month, and two weeks camp where they would party in their tents. We used to envy them and many guys had the goal to do the same thing when they got out. Ronnie changed all that when he became president with his revitalization of the military after 1980, “And lets make America Strong Again.” I had good friends who joined the NG for that very reason. We called it “sandbagging”. But I was mistaken and wrong either way with that remark. Thanks
@Larry Sheldon: Stupid question I know, but is a troll someone looking for a fight for no reason at all?
@Hard Right: Another question. What in Gods name is a moonbat? I just asked what is a troll too? Major difference?
I’m critical of many people on the right for the same reason. There’s so much negativity their message has become corrosive.
@Wilson: Thanks for your reply sir. But I have to say that its very nebulous to say the least. Is it his religious beliefs, his beliefs that the liberals have had an ongoing agenda to destroy this country from the inside out by dismantling the very values, morals, and traditions that our military men and women have fought and died for since this nation was founded? I am not attempting to lure you into a debate, but I suspect that you are a liberal or you not? Which would explain your remarks about Beck in the first place, but I wanted to provide you with an opportunity to explain first.
@Wilson: Sir just come out and admit it, you are a liberal. When I hear the words “positive and negative” my suspicions are aroused even further than they were.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
That is a useable definition of the word troll.
One definition that I like and is another.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
This and others were used by calling upon the power of the Internet by typing (in this case) define moonbat or (earlier) define troll up near the magnifying glass in the upper right corner of my browser. It is a habit I developed back on the archie/hytelnet/gopher days.
There is clearly and indubitably a moonbat troll in our midst.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
A moonbat is a Cindy Sheehan, Janine Garafolo, Keith Olberman type of “liberal”. In other words, nuts.
I’ve tangled with wilson on other threads and he basically barfed up leftist talking points. Not a liberal my *ss.
@Hard Right: If those names you mentioned define moonbats/trolls than they are really way out there, and way past the moon even. Friking spacecadets who took one trip to many on pocketrockets and fried their friking brain on the return trip back home. Thanks!
@Larry Sheldon: You obiviously know much more computer lingo, than I do. But thanks!
#29
“Is it his religious beliefs, his beliefs that the liberals have had an ongoing agenda to destroy this country from the inside out by dismantling the very values, morals, and traditions that our military men and women have fought and died for since this nation was founded?”
That second part is high on the list. It’s B.S. A lot of liberals have gone to war for their country. That’s more than Beck and others I could name have done. The first part annoys me too. The right doesn’t own the Christian religion any more than they own the flag. Some of their views don’t really seem very Christian at all. Jesus wasn’t a capitalist. He wasn’t a conservative in his day, either.
“Sir just come out and admit it, you are a liberal.” </em?
Admit it? Certainly.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
Frankly, your swipe at the “weekend warriors” is a bit uncalled for. Perhaps you are unaware that almost 8,000 NG served in Vietnam.
And let me tell you about Company D (Rangers), 151st Infantry:
1st Batallion, 151st Infantry Regiment “Warhawks”
They were decorated 538 times for service in Vietnam, including four deaths from Ranger missions, two who lost their lives in a helicopter crash, 19 Silver Stars, 1 Soldier’s Medal, 123 Bronze Stars (88 with “V”), 101 Purple Hearts, 111 Air Medals and 183 Army Commendation Medals (29 with “V”). No other unit was decorated during a one year period as these men, all members of the Indiana National Guard.
In every war we have ever fought, the NG has conducted itself with skill, bravery and honor. And for you to indicate you think they were nothing but a dumping ground for those that were trying to avoid combat is pathetic.
Mata, why take a swipe at me and label me (how did you put it?) saying “the sensitive still stick to their anti-Palin scud missiles?”
OK, I admit it, I am not falling on my knees pandering for Palin. If she gets in, great, if she doesn’t, great. But either way, she needs to fish or cut bait and all this playing her supporters for fools can last just so long.
To point one… perhaps what you wish to be is conspiracy is actually reality. Israel, who prior to this nation’s false pumping up on “Arab spring”, used to have neighbors that sought to keep the peace. As predicted by many a foreign policy expert, not only are the attacks on Israel stepping up prior to their self-proclaimed statehood before the UN, but the new Egyptian martial leadership is not willing to enforce the long standing treaty. What both Hezbollah and MB in Egypt want is to antagonize Israel, force it to respond so they can use that for their statehood declaration. Therefore I suggest that it is you who is ignoring reality because it’s inconvenient, when Beck is simply pointing out facts as they have evolved.
To the second, if you are going to suggest that negativity is exclusive to the conservative or right leaning political factions, then you simply are living in a dream world, and care not to pay attention to the leaders of your lib/prog elected officials. Notably, you do not admit to being critical of anyone on the left for similar “conspiracy theories” and hate speech.
If you are that deaf, so much that you are clueless to that which emits from your own party’s mouths, then nothing that can be said here will be acceptable to you. You will refuse to engage in facts in a debate, depending only on partisan hatred. And you would be… as accused… nothing more than a troll leaving useless and quite unelightening BS.
I’ll give you one thing, Wilson. Most that leave such worthless commentary generally are drive bys. You seem to want to return… heaven knows why. It’s not like you contribute much to our cyber lives and knowledge. I’d like to think we could contribute to yours, but I see no indication of that yet.
The swipe is two-fold, retire05. First of all, you misconstrued Gary’s original comment, as I noted above. He was not saying anything other than the mere mention of Beck or Palin’s name makes many go rabid. Ivan is a perfect example of that here. You’re not anywhere to the extent of Ivan, but since Perry’s entry, you’ve gone the extra mile to diss her. i.e. expanding that simple observation to Palin has done “nothing” but a resolution for Israel.
Now there’s many avenues where I disagree with Palin… most especially on Libya. But I have to hand it to her. At least she expressed an opinion, while Perry, Romney and most others waited … doing the finger in the wind bit. But neither would I put her in the Romney/Huntsman/Paul category. Either one – Perry or Palin – would get my vote over Obama, unless there is something else revealed in the coming year we didn’t know about Perry. Palin? I’d say pretty well vetted by now.
I understand that you prefer Perry to Palin. I also understand that you’re highly impatient with her timeframe to declare (or not). You’re welcome to the first. I don’t have a favorite horse in the race yet. Ultimately, where I live, it doesn’t matter. That horse is picked long before I have a say.
But as to the impatience with Palin you have… I don’t think that should cloud your judgement were she the nominee. As I said, many have declared in fall in the past. It’s only Obama’s who’s really moved the clock forward to almost two years. Probably because he never wanted to be a Senator, but always wanted to be POTUS. That doesn’t mean that I have a cut off time for those that enter the race within timeframes that have historically proven to be sufficient. And there is no better fundraiser than Palin when she goes to work. So I don’t have a problem with the cash either.
But back to the “swipe”…. the second of the “twofold” is your choice of argument INRE Israel. If you want to compare Perry to Palin, I simply suggest you use something that has more bearing in reality. As I’ve said more than once, I’m quite pleased that Perry solicited Israeli trade for Texas. However it’s not a legitimate negative to say Palin should have done the same, and therefore has done nothing for Israel. Texas had something to offer Israel. Alaska did not. That doesn’t mean she wouldn’t be a pro Israeli leader.
I think Perry has a strong supporter in you, and that’s good. From what I can see so far… other than exaggerating some economics that really was not in his hands (tho he could have screwed them up… LOL), I think he’s a good man and would certainly get my vote over Obama…. providing his closet doesn’t contain some ugly skeletons. But I also think there is room to also like Palin as a competitor as well. May the best conservative win.
Wilson usually posts in threads with few responses. I will give him credit for returning which is more than can be said 99% of the time for liberal #2.
FYI, I am slightly in SP and GB camps. GB because he has been invaluable in bringing my mother up to speed in politics. Even though she escaped Cuba as castro was murdering Cubans and consolidating his grip on power, she has been politically uninvolved. Now she is a Tea Party member. Thanks to GB she has a better understanding of why I believe the way I do.
Sara because I love strong, intelligent, Conservative women.
@MataHarley:
The last graf describes what passes for the soul of a troll who fears above all else that nobody will respond to his drivel.
I’ll vote for anyone not BHO including Romney/Huntsman/Paul, I’ve voted for people I didn’t like before. For instance I voted for McCain with the express hope that he’d seize his chest after he was sworn in say “Oh!! Sh*t!!” and croak or at least be unable to continue as president and then we’d have Palin as prez.
@MataHarley:
Alaska has one thing Israel doesn’t; lumber. To work for trade in lumber would have provided jobs in Alaska and improved their exports. I can find no where where Palin did that. You presented the recent trading partners Texas has but for some reason you provided the 2001 list for Alaska. There is a more recent list, and it would have shown that Alaska’s trading partners are a numerous as Texas’. As to Libya, why would anyone make comments on Libya when it came to other candidates when they were not in the race. If Palin is going to bash other candidates, she needs to get in and do it legitimately.
Now, I was one who was firmly in the Palin camp, even traveling hundreds of miles just to hear her speak. But she has done some things lately that I don’t like. I don’t like people yanking my chain, and Palin seems to be yanking a lot of people’s chains lately. Again, she needs to fish or cut bait or stay out of the boat. I guess that alarm bell went off in my head when she recently told Sean Hannity that she was trying to decide what effect running would have on her family. She has been running for the last two years and if she doesn’t know what effect legitimately getting in the game would have on her family by now, she will never know. No one likes being played, and it seems lately Palin is playing a lot of people.
As to Palin’s ability to create a campaign fund: those funds are not, contrary to what Obama claims, made from small donors who sent a candidate twenty bucks. They are made via bundlers, the big money heavy hitters, who can pour 1/2 million into a campaign. The longer Palin waits, the fewer bundlers, and corporate sponsors, will be available to her. That’s not the way we would like it to be, but that is the name of the game in a presidential campaign. Rick Perry just snagged the biggest GOP bundler in South Carolina. That is one that is not available to Palin.
Here is the deal, Mata. Our nation has changed in the last three years since Palin ran. The economy is not getting any better and unemployment isn’t, either. Palin has NO history of doing anything in the last three years but a book, a reality show, a tour bus and giving speeches to adoring fans. That is not solving our problems. And just as Obama’s support is dwindling because his record in the last 2 1.2 years has been dismal, Palin has NO record for the last 2 1.2 years.
There are only two candidates that have really had an effect on the things that affect our economy; Michelle Bachmann and Ron Paul on a federal level, and Rick Perry on a state level.
@PurpleDragon:
The libs love huntsman because they know he is more like them than us. Think of snowe who is more likely to vote with the dems than the GOP. That is why they want him so bad. If they can’t get a flaming leftist, they will take a more moderate leftist.
@retire05: Retire I am not going to argue with you on this. Did I not say that many guys looked fowward to joining the Ng. And yes some guys did serve in the war and I knew some as well. It was not a swipe at any soldiers. I was describing the general attitude at that time sir. Look it up in History books, its there. The military was in the worse shape it had been in since before WWII. Years of fighting in Vietnam had left its mark in all areas, not just in the morale of the troops either, but in all areas. Even before Nixon had resigned congress had cut funding for the military, and those cuts got even even got worse under Ford. He had a democratic congress to deal with. The American people hated the war and anything connected to it. Especially soldiers. Then Carter got president and the cuts went even deeper. That was one reason that the botched attempt failed to release the hostages. Carter hated the military and made no bones about it. We were often asked when reporting to a new unit by the first shirt “Are you RA, NG, Reserve, draftee, etcc… to get an idea of where an individual was at. Like it or not. Its long been know and talked about for years sir that the old NG and the Air Force was more perferable for some men than the Marines, Army, and Navy in that order. Period. Thats why many guys joined the AF, and or the Guard before those other services. before they got drafted! So do me a favor in the future, you can call me all the names you want and imlpy whatever, but don’t suggest or imply that I discounted men and women who served their country in war or behind the lines, in the mess hall, as medics or whatever. And also the NG got the hand me down equipment too. Which had been used up in many cases. If I hurt your feelings about Perry, than tell me so. But don’t go looking for rocks to throw when there are none.
Gary, I’m sorry you feel the need to have to explain some of your misinterpreted comments here. Those of us that know you, your own service, and that of your son who gave all on the USS Cole, know very well that you are not a military snob either for branch of service, or the political leanings of anyone who served. I, for one, never took your comments to mean that.
When you spoke of the “liberal agenda”, it was not dissing those who served holding that belief. And I was a Navy wife when you were serving yourself, and I well remember the military oneupman’ship wars between the Guard and other services of that era. But then, I also remember that no civilian could get away with criticizing a Guard member before another military member… much as there is infighting within a family. But heaven help the outsider who tried to go there.
retire05, here is the archives of Alaskan exports, including the Palin Gov years, thru 2010. Again I will need to point out to you that the forest product exports from Alaska constitute only 1-3% of their exported products. In 2007, Palin’s first year as Governor, their major trading partners are still revolving primarily around seafood, and include the primary nations that I mentioned: Japan, Korean, China and Canada, as well as to a smaller degree of Germany, Spain, Finland, Mexico, Spain, the Netherlands and Switzerland. Texas has their own nations for trade that may have some, but not all in common. The have different export specialties that are specific to each state.
Have no clue what your point is. Much depends on what they make, what the receiving nation wants, is it competitive and feasible for shipping/profit, don’t you think?
Again I will point out… whether from 2001, or up to 2010… forest products constitute a very small (1-3%) part of Alaska’s exports. Seafood always leads the pack. Other than Canada, and going straight south down to Mexico, the majority are Asian countries, with a few in East Europe. Now why do you think that is? Most especially for heavy and moisture sensitive product such as timber? Havesting and moving timber, other than by rail which is done most frequently here in Oregon, isn’t cheap. And that only gets it to a port of call.
Then there’s Alaska forest facts. The largest timber forest is the Tongass. For every acre that is cleared, Congress demands 24 in return… 10 that will never be logged, and 14 dedicated to recreational purposes.
Then, of course, there’s the difficulty in getting to that small amount that’s an allowable harvest. Most especially since the 2001 Roadless Rule thru Alaska’s national forests. I don’t know how much you know about logging, but felling trees and skidding them all out by mule, horse or whatever translates to a slow expensive process.
After you are finally allowed to pile some logs on a logging truck, on a road you’re allowed to create and travel, you’ll then have to transport it over permafrost roads, almost 800 miles, to the only major shipping point in Alaska, the Port of Anchorage.
Getting my drift INRE cost effectiveness of trees, Alaska and why their timber resources are such a small part of their exports yet?
Fact is, Alaska hasn’t been a competitive foresty supplier since the 80s due to competition at better prices and federal regulations. t’aint Palin’s fault there’s nothing there to sell to Israel.
Yup… seafood is looking better and better, not to mention cheaper for shipping and harvesting. And Israel has no demand for Alaskan seafood.
Oh yes… Michelle Bachmann and Ron Paul ain’t done squat save casting a few votes, retire05. That’s a bunch of horse manure.
@Wilson: You are right that liberlas went to war for this country. I never doubted that sir. I could care less if JC was a capitalist. Or a socialist/communist. Some of my draftee/hippie friends called him the first socialist/communist. I did not care then, nor now. Whats that got to do with selling out our values, morales, and traditions. Also, I don’t care if Beck/Palin has fought in any wars/battles. If I understood you correctly. Or that they are religious. I am not religious but admire Beck and Palin for their faith and the ability not to be shouted down by the left. In short, this country was founded on christian values, like it or. Also our beliefs about marriage was founded in a large part on the christian bible too. I am sick and tired like Beck of watching liberals tell me that those values are wrong, and then going about and destroying them. Telling us that we must respect cultural identity, yet throw ours away, that we must speak a foreign language, but the aliens can speak their own language, that marriage is whatever the state tells us it is, that we don’t have the right to open prayer, yet the muslims do, I mean the list is endless Sir! I have been actively fighting liberalism for over 20 years now, and will continue to the day I die. This country is not even recognizable from even 25 years ago sir. And change is constant I know that, but all change is not good. People everywhere are wondering what in the hell has happened to the country that they once took for granted, but loved so much. But thank God they are at least awake now, and we are seeing an organized resistance to the liberal agenda. And that sir is why you hate Beck/Palin and no doubt people like myself. And thats why this election is so important, many people have realized that this election is much bigger than who will be president the next four years. That is only the beginning. The real battles will begin after the elections. Lets just hope that we conservatives do not get a leader that will sell out and compromise like we have had in the past. But a leader who will be there right at our side as we fight back this liberal agenda which is slowing choking the life out of our nation. But at least you admitted it. Thats a good start.
@MataHarley: Thank alot Mata. I really appreciated that. It’s hard to to get a grasp on anyone when debating by email unless one has come to know that person. The sixties and the seventies were a tough time for conservatives and especially military people. The war divided whole families, married couples, and our government just to list a few. I had mixed feelings about seeing men joining the AF, and the Navy to lower their chances of comming home in a body bag, or minus a body part. But the realist in me recognized that it was over, so why not. Your right about other branches coming to the aid of a soldier being attacked by civilians who used military people as a whipping post. I had it happen to me, and then helped other soldiers in fights that got cornered by ungrateful citizens. That time was one of our most shameful times in our nations history. I sworn then that if one of our children ever worn our countrys uniform and someone spit on him, called him a baby killer, rapist, warmonger, mindless robot, the list is endless that I would knock their block off, and stomp on it. My wife did too. She was with me and endured the insults as well at times. What was so sad is that I can remember only a very few civies standing up and saying, “Thats wrong! Leave them be.” Most just ignored the bad situation. You know that was common in those times too. I was also happy and relieved to hear the bigboys on TV tell everyone that we could never let that happen here again, and to nip it in the bud when it did. And so far, there have been only isolated events of that shameful behavior. But that time needs to be open for discussion, Ireally believe that. Many people just want to forget it ever happened. I have actually had some people tell me that they don’t ever remember any of that. That was when I came to hate liberalism and everything it stood for. Anyway thanks again! And being a military wife in those days was no laughing matter! My wife is laughing now! Living on a shoe string.
@Gary G. Swenchonis:
Perhaps you can show where I called you names? I don’t believe I did. But I also understand that there had been some rivalry between full time active duty and what you refer to as week-end warriors. No one, and I do mean no one who signs on that dotted line and agrees to protect and defend their nation, in any branch should be demeand for the path they chose to do so. These are men and women, who for what ever reason, do not go full time; family, other commitments. But they train, they give up their weekends and their vacations to do so. And when they are needed, they are called, and they carry out their duties with honor. One of my best friends son has had a hellofa time finishing college (he’s a law enforcement major) because he has been deployed four times in the last 8 years, twice to Iraq, twice to Afghanistan. He’s a Sapper. In 8 years, he has been active for over four of them. And as to the fact that yes, that WAS the attitude toward the Guard, all those old biases should have changed in the last ten years. It’s like the rivalry between the police departments and the fire departments. The police say to the firefighter “You are not getting shot at” and the fireman snaps back “And you are not running into burning buildings when everyone else is running out of them.”
You didn’t hurt my feelings about Perry. You made a mistake. I corrected you. It is just that simple.