A Canadian Warns America NOT To Register Our Guns

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Warner Todd Huston:

A Canadian newscaster has a warning for Americans: Do NOT register your firearms because if you do, the government WILL confiscate your guns and throw you in jail.

Brian Billey, a host on Sun News in Canada, hosted a commentary proving that if we Americans are stupid enough to register our firearms (I’m talking to YOU Connecticut) then we should expect to have our guns confiscated at some point in the future.

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Billey isn’t just talking mere opinion, here. He has proof. It happened in his own country. Once certain guns were outlawed and the remaining ones were leveled with a must-register law, it wasn’t long before the government began confiscating guns for no legitimate reason.
The newscaster pointed out that critics of the Canadian gun registry program said that the registry would lead to confiscation, but supporters waved off those criticisms as absurd worries meant only to harm Canada’s “safety and security.”

But, Billey points out, the critics were right. It wasn’t long before capricious and arbitrary rules began being passed that gave cops the excuse to roam throughout the country confiscating suddenly “illegal” guns and using the registry to do so.

Worse, those who refused were treated as if they were criminals as dangerous as a drug lord and these “paperwork criminals” had the full weight of the government slammed down on their heads.

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Canada does not have a bill of rights guarantee. If the government tries to break that guarantee, we have the obligation to remove those responsible from government by whatever means necessary.

@Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Best be getting started. In California and New York they are already confiscating once legally owned firearms.

@Ditto, #2:

The “once legally owned firearms” are an estimated 40,000 firearms that were legally purchased at one time, but are now in the hands of persons who are prohibited by law from possessing them.

The legislation in question, which has become law in California, is SB-140.

Here’s a list of the categories of persons who are prohibited from firearm ownership. Those adjudged to be a danger due to a mental disorder, those who are legally incompetent, mentally disordered sex offenders, narcotics addicts… Is there a category of persons on there that most reasonable citizens would prefer to be armed?

Are you now going to pretend that law enforcement only ever arrests or performs search and seizure on the guilty. Tyranny always begins operating under the color of law.

Any person who is convicted of a felony, or any offense enumerated in Penal Code sections 29900 or 29905

All felonies are not created equal. There are many non-violent minor misdemeanors that could result in a felony conviction. With the continual creation of laws that the public is ignorant of, (esp. in central control fascist states such as California,) it is easily possible for a anyone to be convicted of a misdemeanor felony. Top 10 felonies include: Drug abuse violations, Driving while intoxicated/felony DUI, Property crime, Larceny-theft, Disorderly conduct, Liquor law violations & Drunkenness.

Felonies differ from misdemeanors by the sentence outlined in the statute. If you are sentenced to one or more years in prison, you have committed a felony, if you receive less time, then the infraction is considered a misdemeanor.

California Penal Code section 29905 includes: (25) Any felony violation of Section 186.22. so let’s go there where we find:

Gang Enhancement under California Penal Code Section 186.22, is a criminal offense and it is normally filed as either a felony or misdemeanor for subsection A of the code. Gang Enhancement is when anyone intentionally participates and furthers the motives of criminal gang activities.

Elements of the Crime

In order to take a Gang Enhancement CPC 186.22 case to trial, certain elements of the crime will have to be proven. These include:

• That the defendant was part of a criminal mob
• This mob committed criminal activities and the defendant was aware of this
• The defendant helped support the mob by endorsement, assistance and/or support

Such blanket, vague “guilt by association laws” ignore the possibility that someone might be accused of being part of a “criminal mob” (a vague term in of itself)by simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and such “guilt by association” laws ignore that a defendant may have never been involved in a violent act.

Let’s look at California Department of Justice – Bureau of Firearms’ Firearms Prohibiting Categories:

Any person who is subject to a temporary restraining order or an injunction issued pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure sections 527.6 or 527.8, a protective order as defined in Family Code section 6218, a protective order issued pursuant to Penal Code sections 136.2 or 646.91, or a protective order issued pursuant to Welfare and Institutions Code section 15657.03

Simply being subject to a restraining order does not mean that a person has a proclivity to violence.

• Any person who is found by a court to be a danger to himself, herself, or others because of a mental illness
• Any person who is found by a court to be mentally incompetent to stand trial
• Any person who is found by a court to be not guilty by reason of insanity

The problem herein is that these restrictions take no consideration of temporary insanity, or the possibility of being cured. It is well known that certain legal pharmaceuticals can affect mental behavior as a side effect, and that once you take a person off the drug the side effect will normally wear off.

• Any person who is placed on a conservatorship because he or she is gravely disabled as a result of a mental disorder, or an impairment by chronic alcoholism
• Any person who is addicted to the use of narcotics (state and federal)

Again, no consideration that the person may recover or be reformed.

• Any person who communicates a threat to a licensed psychotherapist against a reasonably identifiable victim, that has been reported by the psychotherapist to law enforcement
• Any person who is under indictment or information in any court for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year (federal)

I see huge potential for abuse here.

• Any person who has been discharged from the military under dishonorable conditions (federal)

Really? I mean, ! REALLY?!!! That’s pretty harsh and unfair when you take into consideration that there is no reasonable indication that a dishonorably discharged person would be a danger to the public.

• Any person who is an illegal alien (federal)

Interesting. I wasn’t even aware of this one. Better inform your illegal immigrant intimidation mobs about this one. (As a side issue, remind your Democratic party that convicted felons can’t vote unless a judge reinstates that right. So any “amnestied” alien with a firearms violation can’t either.)

• Any person who has renounced his or her US Citizenship (federal)

Oh? Why would this indicate that such a person is always a danger to the public?

Greg: “Is there a category of persons on there that most reasonable citizens would prefer to be armed? “

What bearing does “mob mentality” have on the law or constitutional rights?

@Ditto, #4:

All felonies are not created equal. There are many non-violent minor misdemeanors that could result in a felony conviction.

Indeed, they are not. Section 29905 of the California Penal Code makes that clear.

Have a look at the list of the specific felony offenses for which conviction will make ownership of a firearm unlawful in the state.

I find my self in substantial agreement with SB-140. In my opinion, those who have been convicted of something on that list shouldn’t have a right to own a firearm.

I understand how opinions could vary about 2nd Amendment rights for those dishonorably discharged from the service, or those who have renounced their citizenship. I have reservations about blanket prohibitions in those cases myself. Circumstances leading to either situation could vary greatly.

@Greg:

Of course you do. You’re a gun control fanatic who wants to disarm as many Americans as possible.

it seems that SOME NEW ELECTED ON SEAT OF THE PARLEMENT IN CANADA,
ARE MUCH INFLUENCE, by what is going on with the
AMERICAN decisions which they sell
to their loyals,
IT’S NOT ALL CANADIANS WHO SHARE THOSE IDEAS,
NO BILL OF RIGHT, is now EQUIVALANTE to a BILL OF RIGHT NOT USED IN THE USA BY LEADER,
STEPPING ON THE CONSTITUTION ALSO,