Countering Taliban Propaganda?

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♪ ♫Who can take Osama,
And hide him all around?
Run away an’ hide,
When the bombs are fallin’ down,
The Taliban, (the Taliban)
Yes the Taliban can, (the Taliban can)
The Taliban can cos they mix a lotta nuts and screw the world real good,
♪ ♫
-Adam Sandler

Thousands in Afghanistan protested yesterday (with two more deaths), oblivious that God already talked to Pastor Jones:

The pastor, Terry Jones, told NBC on Saturday that “we feel that God is telling us to stop” the Quran burning, which had stirred outrage among millions of Muslims and others worldwide.

“We’re not going to go back and do it,” Jones said, referring to the planned burning. “It is totally canceled.”

But in a country where most people have limited access to newspapers, television and the Internet, most Afghans were unaware of Jones’ decision. The Taliban have been distributing pamphlets decrying Jones’ plans, claiming they showed the Americans were in Afghanistan to wage war against Islam.

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Nabi Charkhi, the deputy provincial police chief, estimated the crowd at more than 10,000. Witnesses said Taliban agitators were among the crowd. The witnesses spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear for their personal safety.

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A pamphlet circulated by the Taliban among Afghan refugees in the Pakistani city of Quetta called the burning of the Quran “an immoral and stupid crime”

“And it is Americans who are doing this,” the pamphlet said. “This is the brutal policy of the enemy of Muslims.”

Anyone know if there was an effort on the part of NATO and our military to have counter-propaganda pamphlets distributed, for whatever value that would have been worth:

Buried among the 92,000 classified documents released Sunday by WikiLeaks is some intriguing evidence that the U.S. military in Afghanistan has adopted a PR strategy that got it into trouble in Iraq: paying local media outlets to run friendly stories.

Several reports from Army psychological operations units and provincial reconstruction teams (also known as PRTs, civilian-military hybrids tasked with rebuilding Afghanistan) show that local Afghan radio stations were under contract to air content produced by the United States. Other reports show U.S. military personnel apparently referring to Afghan reporters as “our journalists” and directing them in how to do their jobs.

Such close collaboration between local media and U.S. forces has been a headache for the Pentagon in the past: In 2005, Pentagon contractor the Lincoln Group was caught paying Iraqi newspapers to run stories written by American soldiers, causing the United States considerable embarrassment.

So long as the propaganda is true, there’s nothing wrong with running positive pro-U.S. stories. After all, someone has to do the job that the lamestream media won’t do….

Of course, I think a lot of the anger being exploited is rooted in Afghani disatisfaction with their own government:

He said that the protest reflected a broadly popular frustration with the government because the demonstrators included “shopkeepers, teachers and taxi drivers who have to deal with the government every day,” and not people from remote areas of the district.

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this guy said it as good as it can be said.

Burn a Bible. No big deal. Tear down a church. That’s just islamic law. Kill a Jew. Look the other way. Rape a Christian woman. She had it coming.

Burn a Koran. There will be rioting and killing. Draw a picture of Mohammad. There will be rioting and killing. Be incensed by the building of a mosque in a certain location. There will be rioting and killing.

Anyone else notice a difference? A man who leads a “church” of 50 people gets international press coverage. A man who leads a mosque of thousands is treated as royalty. An extremist claiming to be Christian gets to be the representative of all Christianity. An extremist in islam has hijacked the religion.

A Christian blows up an abortion clinic and all Christianity is castigated and the men is sent to jail for life. An Islamist incites people to kill in the name of allah and he must be negotiated with and understood.

A Jew defends his property against an islamist and the islamist is tabbed the victim by the media and leftist politicians. An Islamist takes the lives of a couple hundred people on a plane and he gets released on “compassionate” grounds.

We are in a world that is far worse than upside down. At least an upside down world would still be decipherable. This world we live in now is confusion and chaos. A world of our own making. Feelings have replaced sanity, false compassion has replaced logic, and lies and deception are the new truth.

Here’s a truth about the present state of affairs in regards to the islamic world and the rest of the world. We are in a religious war. Plain and simple. Deny it all you want/ Do your best to explain it away. Pull the blankets over your head and refuse to acknowledge it.

There are about 1.9 billion muslims on the planet. They accepted statistic of the amount of “extremists” or “fundamentalist” is 10%. That’s 190 million people. That’s more people than the populations of 217 countries. This places the islamic religion as the 7th largest country on the planet right above Pakistan. If 10% is how many people actively participate in the “extremist” and/or “fundamentalist” portion of Islam. What is the percentage that don’t necessarily participate, but provide support either financially or spiritually?

Why does the media ignore 190 million people but promote the leader of 50?

and greenfield of sultan kinish hits it right between the eyes with a baseball bat

The media’s coverage of the 9th anniversary of the Muslim murder of 3,000 people was overshadowed by their panicked coverage of the possibility that Terry Jones, the pastor of a tiny Florida church, might actually burn the Koran. Last week Newsweek ran Fareed Zakaria’s piece insisting that Americans overreacted to 9/11. So instead the media showed us where their priorities lie, by shortchanging the dead, ignoring their killers and instead turning the pastor of a small Florida church into a villain for even talking about the possibility of torching a book, whose contents helped inspire 9/11. It’s as if on Holocaust Memorial Day, the key topic of discussion was not the murder of 6,000,000 Jews, but a protester who wanted to get his Bic lighter close to Mein Kampf.

In the weeks leading up to the anniversary, the media had been sanctimoniously lecturing Americans that their sensitivities regarding Ground Zero were irrelevant in the face of a Muslim desire to put up a massive and completely unnecessary Islamic complex in the area. Constitutional freedoms, real or imagined, trumped any sensitivities. But when a Gainesville pastor proposed returning a couple of copies of the Koran back to the environment by way of lighter fluid, suddenly freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and all that other stuff created by dead white men before the age of Walter Kronkite and CNN, were irrelevant in face of Muslim sensitivities.

Time Magazine and USA Today both ran polls asking whether burning the Koran should be criminalized as a hate crime. CNN gave a forum to a Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri to argue that burning a Koran would have been worse than 9/11 and warned that such actions “should be stopped by the U.S. government at any cost”. Now Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri shows in his article that while he may not know the difference between “principal” and “principle”, or “ensure” and “insure”, he understands exactly how to push for the imposition of the horrifying barbarity of Islamic Sharia law in America.

In Dr. Qadri’s own words: “any act of an individual or group which… hurts the feelings of 1.5 billion Muslim should be stopped at any cost.” There are no details of just what “any cost” would imply, but certainly Dr. Qadri argues that Freedom of Speech cannot be used to protect anything that offends Muslims. And since just about everything from eating on Ramadan to liquor in taxi cabs to ice cream cones that look like Allah, has been known to offend Muslims, that means for September 11 you can kiss freedom goodbye. Or risk offending 1.5 billion Muslims. And we know what happens every time you offend the peaceful worshipers of the Religion of Peace. Riots, murder, terrorism and of course burning the American flag.

The same media which has consistently opposed a Constitutional amendment that bans flag burning (generally because they tend to agree with the flag burners), has now decided that burning the Koran should be a crime. Because burning the flag or killing thousands of Americans is no big deal– but burning a Koran, someone should make a law about that.

the rest is at kinish

got that everyone playing magicians assistant to islam?

now we have entered the stage where hurting the feelings of muslims must be stopped at any cost!

and our lap dog weasil media sat there and let him say it without blinking an eye.

becuase they dont have a problem with that.

thier real problem is and allways has been us. we hick unwashed unvarnished westerners who dont like the idea of bending our knee to islam so we can all just get along and pretend there really isnt a seething lunatic with a big knife standing in the corner.

so there ya go everyone, its all our fualt that muslims are getting all riled up.

we dhimmis just dont know our place.

well its a good thing we have magicians assistants to explain to us why we are so wrong about whats really going on…..

okay, Gimme A Freaking Break.

News Flash: they were waiting for an excuse. They would have run out in the street screaming “JIHAD!” if someone had screwed up their Happy Meal order. The fact that they turn into a murderous mob the moment someone so much as LOOKS at one of their “holy books” or their “holy prophet” crosseyed proves they don’t DESERVE consideration.

To blazes with them, their prophet, their “holy” book, their precious feelings, and the horse they rode in on.

RHJunior
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okay, Gimme A Freaking Break.

News Flash: they were waiting for an excuse. They would have run out in the street screaming “JIHAD!” if someone had screwed up their Happy Meal order. The fact that they turn into a murderous mob the moment someone so much as LOOKS at one of their “holy books” or their “holy prophet” crosseyed proves they don’t DESERVE consideration.

To blazes with them, their prophet, their “holy” book, their precious feelings, and the horse they rode in on.

Close.
The Koran demands a Muslim WAIT until a provocation before attacking IN RESPONSE.
In theory, a good Muslim must never instigate violence.
Therefore, over the centuries, Islam has made keeping account of injury into a fine art form…..perhaps Islam’s finest art form.

Remember when Osama was trying to rouse his sleepy troops?
He would bring up Corboba!
Now, talk about something no one alive today is responsible for!

But he is not alone.
A few irate and charismatic imams can undo all the majority of passive ones in one Friday sermon.

What was the REAL AGENDA of the Taliban in Afghanistan?
To mess with the elections coming up there this week.

What better way than to ”force” the Afghan security forces to fire on rioters?
And how better to rile up the unwashed masses of ignoramuses in their land than to claim that the USA is burning Korans?

It is too bad that the Koran is considered unreliable in any other language than Arabic (ancient Arabic, at that.)
Because, if it were the true word of God, it would be truth in any language.

But, as it is, the masses of Muslims (like European Catholics before the printing press, relied on a Latin-speaking cleric to tell them what to do) rely on obviously dishonest Muslim clerics who tell them what to do.

the same thing happened when the radical right had their ?Draw a cartoon Mohammad Day” And the taliban will also use the prortests against mosques being built as a recruiting tool that will place our troops in greater danger and make their jobs more difficult

when the radical right had thier draw mo day?

hmm if they are radical where are the dead bodies they murdered?

again someone saying that the west is responsible for the murder perpatrated by muslims.

funny you didnt call the islamists radical

How we are perceived…and it does matter.

Obama’s ambivalent war
The US still cannot agree on how to characterise or conduct its ‘war against al-Qaeda’.

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2010/09/20109118829341531.html

All of which brings us back to where we started. Its early rhetoric notwithstanding, the Obama administration has shown clear ambivalence in the way in which it thinks about and conducts what it chooses to refer to as the “war against al-Qaeda”. Though exercising the “sovereign right of self-defence” even outside war zones, it nonetheless insists on attempting to try high-profile terrorist suspects in federal courts with constitutional protections, while still reserving the right to indefinitely detain those considered dangerous, as though they were prisoners of war.

It may well be that, in the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson, “a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds,” but if the administration is to employ mixed standards, particularly as regards to the more controversial aspects of its counter-terrorism policy, it would be well advised to clearly explain what it is doing, and why

Wordsmith, You would fit in great at LGF. You write better than Charles and if you use lots of lube, it won’t hurt too much.